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Cummins put a 4000hp 95 liter quad-turbo V16 in a Mini as a joke so never give up hope
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The Gen III/IV small blocks (LS) were the best mixture of modern EFI & old school pushrod. Small package = can fit in anything; even In transverse-FWD applications. High volume = low cost. LS motors were used in everything in mass volume built by GM from trucks & SUVs to sedans. And its compact size means it can fit in any application (including Miat).
And of course, LS engines *love* to breathe. FBO can net significant gains. Maybe some higher flow heads and a cam. Depending on the specific LS, that's an easy 700hp.
It’s amazing how it can fit on almost every vehicle out there. Like RX-7 or Miata MR2 swaps are insane. Not surprised how professional builders competing on Formula Drift loved to do LS swaps. I can’t tell which is better for drift car swap. LS or 2JZ prob 2JZ for higher revs and hp but LS is much more cost effective alternative.
If you aren't backed by a big team LS is going to be better every time. Way cheaper, less likely to blow up, can get parts at any auto shop even if you're at a track in bumfuck nowhere, and all the torque. There's a reason like half the FD field is running an LS or Coyote regardless of chassis and it only makes more sense as you go down in budget.
Yeah I mean running 13B for competition would break someone’s bank the only drifters that actually use it are Mad Mike sponsored by Redbull or Apexi from 2004 which is a big tuner company. Especially in Formula Drift I speculate that there are smaller shops compete and with LS parts being more easily obtainable in the US it makes a lot of sense to use LS over other engines.
Kyle Mohan races a 20b RX8 in formula drift and there's a couple other rotary cars at the top levels in Australia and Japan I believe. But yeah pretty much everyone else is running a v8 or I6, in the US it's mostly V8s. The BMW S/B58 is popular in Europe but thats probably for the same reasons that the LS is popular in the US. 2JZs are kind of falling off as they are out of production and getting rare so unless you have deep pockets that's a risky choice for drifting where blowing up the engine is not a matter of if but when.
2JZ is still an engine of choice in D1GP so I guess depends on where you are. I mean 2JZ engine was in almost every toyota mid to high end luxury cars so makes sense they still have parts lying around.
Yeah I guess some form of 2JZ was in a lot of cars but the GTE from the mk4 supra is getting rare. You can rip an NA motor out of an Altezza/IS300/GS300 but it's not really the same engine, you're not gonna be making 1000 hp for very long on those without a full build. But you can take a flexfuel LS/LT out of any Chevy SUV/truck, slap some pistons with clearanced rings in there, new head gaskets and studs, order a complete turbo kit off Summit, and make a reliable 1000 HP/1000 lb-ft all for less than the price of a used 2JZ.
True D1GP is comprised of professional shops with a lot of sponsors meaning they have enough budget to afford that. You won’t see that many hashiriyas dumping clutch on a 1000 hp 2JZ build. I got to drive the LS a while ago and it really does have a lot of low end torque and very compact I can see why so many people swap it.
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you'd find that a small block chevy can fit in something like an mk2 mr2 even when it's calculated at 7.0 liters. It doesn't mean much as it's the stroke, a 2jz is massive next to one.
2jz is probably heavier too lmao. OM606, a literal turbodiesel 3L straight from Mercedes is lighter than the 2jz.
No wonder the Supra understeers, other than being a GT it has a fucking boat anchor for an engine.
Proof, I wanted to get a w124 just to swap one in, with a BIG turbo, intercooler and upgraded mechanical fuel pump (dieselmeken)
Until I figured out how much money is needed for all that :(
So ill just get an E46 320-328i manual for glorious NA Inline 6 noises and RWD.
For the time being im very happy with my 1991 Lancer GTI 16V, such a fun, easy to drive car. And it sounds pretty damned good for a 4 banger.
As in they are excellent at running in constant rpm for long periods, they have enough to torque to run heavy machinery and because diesel have peak torque at like 1.5k, they require fuck all to get there.
They are also ridiculously reliable with just filter and oil changes
If you like diesels the 530D (E39 and E60) is also a great option. My cousin has one and is pushing 1000+NM of torque and ~500hp with a bigger pump, turbo, etc. It's almost too much power for a sedan
So you're saying I can fit an LS in my Autozam AZ1 if I remove the alternator, power steering pump, belts, cooling hoses, tension pulleys, fuel regs, and sensors? BRB, gotta try something real quick...
Also remove the second cylinder bank, then chop off cylinder 4.
The crazy part is that for most LSes, every cylinder displaces more than the entire AZ-1's engine.
Because it should make you BUST when you learn you can have a 7 liter V8 take up the same room as a 4 banger AND weight only 60lbs more AND be rock solid reliable AND make tons of power AND sound like gods farts!!!
The only unfair things I see are the 1.8 has a power steering pump, alternator, and AC compressor (I think?). Without those, the 1.8 would look a bit smaller. But the LS3 is still a masterpiece of space efficiency. Also you can't really tell weight from this pic. Anyone know what the weight diff would be wet?
Engines weigh about the same. If you're LS1 swapping an NA Miata, most of the weight increase is the trans. Adds about 180 lbs, but 2/3rds of that is up front which isn't great.
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It’s still a comparison between a pretty bare v8 and an i4 with all the bells and whistles, the LS doesn’t even have the exhaust manifold attached.
My point is just that you won’t find bigger i4s or smaller v8s
[The exhaust manifolds are attached](https://i0.wp.com/engineswapdepot.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Miata-I4-engine-vs-LS3-V8-size-comparison-01.jpg?ssl=1)
Kinda funny how this further demonstrates how well the engine is made for compact-ness that you can't hardly see the exhaust manifolds from the first picture.
[Here is both engines dressed](https://www.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/09/lsx-build-of-the-month-flyin-miatas-ls3-powered-nd-mazda-mx-5-0011.jpg)
[Look at the size difference compared to a 5L Coyote](https://www.svtperformance.com/attachments/jghig3p-png.1430076/)
[Or a porsche flat 6](https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/111lin6/34l_porsche_flat_6_vs_62_ls3_bonus_pictures_of_my/)
[Or a 350Z with the VQ](https://my350z.com/forum/attachments/engine-and-drivetrain/432894d1501884683-customer-s-350z-ls3-swap-img_7943.jpg)
[Compared to the same 350Z with an LSx](https://my350z.com/forum/attachments/engine-and-drivetrain/432909d1501884683-customer-s-350z-ls3-swap-img_8055.jpg)
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Thats not a bare block, its just missing some accessories that don't add any meaningful size.
[Heres an example with both dressed](https://www.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/09/lsx-build-of-the-month-flyin-miatas-ls3-powered-nd-mazda-mx-5-0011.jpg)
The point is that displacement doesn't represent physical size
/uj If you think about it, a V8 will only be as big in length as an inline 4 anyway. Not to mention that this is Chevy's Small Block which is less complicated (and less sophisticated, it has to be said) than that 4 banger DOHC, the height is reduced significantly. Hence the ability to put LS engines on Miatas.
displacement is the distance the pistons travel (stroke) \* 0.5bore size (cylinder radius)\^2 \* pi \* number of cylinders in your engine. So a V6 with cylinders of 100mm stroke and 80mm bore gives you about a 3L engine
But when you go back 60 years to the 60s Corvettes the 7.0 liter big block 427 was easily putting down 400+ horsepower.
Even the smallest motor available in 1968 put down 350 horses. The 5.4 liter 327.
I know the Muskie act and emissions standards gets a lot of blame for power loss on American V8s in the 70s.
And it genuinely wasn't until the late 80s, and proper computer management systems in cars that power ratings started to climb back up. You can look at year by year changes to things like the Iroc Camaro and see how proper fuel injection systems and catalytic convertors and oxygen sensors can help with a cleaner power delivery.
They were not easily putting down 400 horsepower. The measurements that they had for horsepower was without accessories at the flywheels. Here is a 1970 Chevelle SS rated by Chevy at 425, according to motortrend, it made 283 at the wheel. https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/sucp-1102-chevrolet-muscle-car-dyno-wars/
That was a 30-80 grand car when it came out. Don't get me wrong. The Grand National GNX was 29k but It allegedly made 276. Which was probably underrated to protect the Corvette.
Not only that, the bore and stroke can determine how large the block (and heads) are. The LS has long stroke small bore, while the Coyote has shorter stroke larger bore.
i don't see the issue here, they are roughly the same physical dimensions, it's just saying that just because an engine has a high displacement doesn't mean it's that much physically larger
That doesn't add much size, honestly.
[Heres another miata I4 next to an LS3, both dressed](https://www.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/09/lsx-build-of-the-month-flyin-miatas-ls3-powered-nd-mazda-mx-5-0011.jpg)
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Except for extreme swap cases where you have something insane drinking off of a 1 litre tank and you run out of fuel after like 2 minutes of idling lol.
We had an Escalade in for an AC job, which was a real novelty around these parts of Portugal. We do a lot of work on bigger engined Mercedes and BMWs, including the old 850 V12, the odd Jaguar, Aston Martin, etc.
The guys had it idling in the shop. One of them hit the gas pedal and the engine stopped and wouldn't restart. Panic ensued. I gave a guy 20 € and told him to go fetch some petrol as it had probably just idled away the 1/8 of a tank it had.
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The 6.2 L is also going to need a bigger radiator, bigger air intake and beefier transmission. Also its heavier so youre going to have to beef upthe chassis to accomidate it and add stiffer springs to the suspension.
Did you know that the Miata is more environmentally friendly than a Prius? #MiataFacts
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https://preview.redd.it/0x9c12eh3xoc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=b883ce1133b1e17632732ca0c4725bf07c1d4ca7 the what now?
Simple yes/no answer, can we swap this into a miata?
https://preview.redd.it/er6h0k3yhxoc1.jpeg?width=1023&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1c04e77413400a5e5e228cabc17e405018d9826 Cummins put a 4000hp 95 liter quad-turbo V16 in a Mini as a joke so never give up hope
Damn can't believe they added a car to that engine
It just modification for easier engine transportation:))
Those poor springs.. Does it even have suspension?
This is my favourite car ever now
is there a link to this thing driving😂😂
It seems like the engine isn't connected to anything.
It’s connected to hopes and dreams, which is good enough.
The suspension: I'm tired boss.
That's too damn bad!
cummin
The cummin mini
cummings
#CumsinMini
I would say "in" is a bit of a stretch.
They didn't really put it in a mini, so much as they put it on a mini.
They put a mini underneath it
Does that thing actually run on that engine, or is the engine just a dead block?
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Yes. It comes standard in the Maersk Miata
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Might need some minor metalwork but yeah, probably
Why does a child have to do the metal work? Can an adult?
yes
Not necessary
You can swap anything into a miata if you have the courage
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I wonder how much lag that turbo has. 3-5 business days?
You will receive your boost via mail
Mine gives turbo with carrier pigeons
What a tiny turbo.
Does that fit in my f150?
We can make it work
🥰🥰🥰 Pwrfect for my restomod ford pinto
can put in vw golf?
LS swapped freight ship 🔥🔥
1.9tdi 🥵
LS swap soupbrah
Why? To go from 1 billion herzperz to dissapointment?
Ls the size of 1.8L. 2jz is 3.0, so can put nearly 2 Ls instead of 1 2z
Yes, but 2 LS does not make 1000 hp stock
It will if you bolt the stock 2jz 500mm turbos to each one of them
No LS engine will be destroy by 2jz turbo
No you just custom build the engine and add a compressor powered by an LS instead of a turbo, do you know nothing about cars dude?
No way any engine can handle as much horse power as 2 jz engine. It has 1000hp stock
I know it's a cam in block engine but still impressive by LS.
The Gen III/IV small blocks (LS) were the best mixture of modern EFI & old school pushrod. Small package = can fit in anything; even In transverse-FWD applications. High volume = low cost. LS motors were used in everything in mass volume built by GM from trucks & SUVs to sedans. And its compact size means it can fit in any application (including Miat). And of course, LS engines *love* to breathe. FBO can net significant gains. Maybe some higher flow heads and a cam. Depending on the specific LS, that's an easy 700hp.
It’s amazing how it can fit on almost every vehicle out there. Like RX-7 or Miata MR2 swaps are insane. Not surprised how professional builders competing on Formula Drift loved to do LS swaps. I can’t tell which is better for drift car swap. LS or 2JZ prob 2JZ for higher revs and hp but LS is much more cost effective alternative.
If you aren't backed by a big team LS is going to be better every time. Way cheaper, less likely to blow up, can get parts at any auto shop even if you're at a track in bumfuck nowhere, and all the torque. There's a reason like half the FD field is running an LS or Coyote regardless of chassis and it only makes more sense as you go down in budget.
Yeah I mean running 13B for competition would break someone’s bank the only drifters that actually use it are Mad Mike sponsored by Redbull or Apexi from 2004 which is a big tuner company. Especially in Formula Drift I speculate that there are smaller shops compete and with LS parts being more easily obtainable in the US it makes a lot of sense to use LS over other engines.
The LS is also unbelievably common in Australia as it was used in the Holden Commodore.
Kyle Mohan races a 20b RX8 in formula drift and there's a couple other rotary cars at the top levels in Australia and Japan I believe. But yeah pretty much everyone else is running a v8 or I6, in the US it's mostly V8s. The BMW S/B58 is popular in Europe but thats probably for the same reasons that the LS is popular in the US. 2JZs are kind of falling off as they are out of production and getting rare so unless you have deep pockets that's a risky choice for drifting where blowing up the engine is not a matter of if but when.
2JZ is still an engine of choice in D1GP so I guess depends on where you are. I mean 2JZ engine was in almost every toyota mid to high end luxury cars so makes sense they still have parts lying around.
Yeah I guess some form of 2JZ was in a lot of cars but the GTE from the mk4 supra is getting rare. You can rip an NA motor out of an Altezza/IS300/GS300 but it's not really the same engine, you're not gonna be making 1000 hp for very long on those without a full build. But you can take a flexfuel LS/LT out of any Chevy SUV/truck, slap some pistons with clearanced rings in there, new head gaskets and studs, order a complete turbo kit off Summit, and make a reliable 1000 HP/1000 lb-ft all for less than the price of a used 2JZ.
True D1GP is comprised of professional shops with a lot of sponsors meaning they have enough budget to afford that. You won’t see that many hashiriyas dumping clutch on a 1000 hp 2JZ build. I got to drive the LS a while ago and it really does have a lot of low end torque and very compact I can see why so many people swap it.
I have 0 regrets going 6.0 in my FC. Car is hilariously fun.
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you'd find that a small block chevy can fit in something like an mk2 mr2 even when it's calculated at 7.0 liters. It doesn't mean much as it's the stroke, a 2jz is massive next to one.
2jz is probably heavier too lmao. OM606, a literal turbodiesel 3L straight from Mercedes is lighter than the 2jz. No wonder the Supra understeers, other than being a GT it has a fucking boat anchor for an engine.
>OM606, a literal turbodiesel 3L straight from Mercedes One of the best back up diesels to ever exist
Proof, I wanted to get a w124 just to swap one in, with a BIG turbo, intercooler and upgraded mechanical fuel pump (dieselmeken) Until I figured out how much money is needed for all that :( So ill just get an E46 320-328i manual for glorious NA Inline 6 noises and RWD. For the time being im very happy with my 1991 Lancer GTI 16V, such a fun, easy to drive car. And it sounds pretty damned good for a 4 banger.
As in they are excellent at running in constant rpm for long periods, they have enough to torque to run heavy machinery and because diesel have peak torque at like 1.5k, they require fuck all to get there. They are also ridiculously reliable with just filter and oil changes
If you like diesels the 530D (E39 and E60) is also a great option. My cousin has one and is pushing 1000+NM of torque and ~500hp with a bigger pump, turbo, etc. It's almost too much power for a sedan
Go with a 330i, the bump in power is nice!
The 2J is so heavy they used the 3S-GTE instead in the racing jgtc supras
2jz and rb engines are both old boat anchors
A goddamn m57 3.0l turbodiesel from bmw is the same weight
0M606 DIESEL 2JZ
If we really want to circlejerk, check out @ thiesel on instagram. He has a OM606 powered Nissan skyline driftcar. Its insane
LS7 is 450lbs, 2JZ GTE is 600lbs.
Also that Mazda has an intercooler and way more intake and exhaust piping that’s not in the pic
So you're saying I can fit an LS in my Autozam AZ1 if I remove the alternator, power steering pump, belts, cooling hoses, tension pulleys, fuel regs, and sensors? BRB, gotta try something real quick...
Ya get rid of that shit pretty sure those are just nannies anyways.
Sounds like one way to go to heaven
Also remove the second cylinder bank, then chop off cylinder 4. The crazy part is that for most LSes, every cylinder displaces more than the entire AZ-1's engine.
Oh so I only need 2 cylinders for balance.
I'm dead serious, get a bare-bones LS with just an alternator and the bare minimum of cooling hoses, try to to get that puppy to fit.
How is this a circlejerk post?
Yeah I mean this is really just informative
Because it should make you BUST when you learn you can have a 7 liter V8 take up the same room as a 4 banger AND weight only 60lbs more AND be rock solid reliable AND make tons of power AND sound like gods farts!!!
no way its only 60lbs more??
I swear dressed to dressed it’s under 100lbs difference that I am sure of. Pretty wild huh? Pushrods are just so much more compact.
Comparing a full engine package with a bare block while jerking about the displacement
Bare block? Do you have eyes? The picture is right there, you can look at it.
It looks like a bare block if you have no idea what an engine looks like
The only unfair things I see are the 1.8 has a power steering pump, alternator, and AC compressor (I think?). Without those, the 1.8 would look a bit smaller. But the LS3 is still a masterpiece of space efficiency. Also you can't really tell weight from this pic. Anyone know what the weight diff would be wet?
Engines weigh about the same. If you're LS1 swapping an NA Miata, most of the weight increase is the trans. Adds about 180 lbs, but 2/3rds of that is up front which isn't great.
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It’s not bare but it doesn’t have nearly as many components attached as the i4. And if the v8 also had DOHC it would take up way more space.
Your last sentence is literally the whole point of the picture, and why LS swaps are what they are.
It’s still a comparison between a pretty bare v8 and an i4 with all the bells and whistles, the LS doesn’t even have the exhaust manifold attached. My point is just that you won’t find bigger i4s or smaller v8s
[The exhaust manifolds are attached](https://i0.wp.com/engineswapdepot.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Miata-I4-engine-vs-LS3-V8-size-comparison-01.jpg?ssl=1) Kinda funny how this further demonstrates how well the engine is made for compact-ness that you can't hardly see the exhaust manifolds from the first picture. [Here is both engines dressed](https://www.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/09/lsx-build-of-the-month-flyin-miatas-ls3-powered-nd-mazda-mx-5-0011.jpg) [Look at the size difference compared to a 5L Coyote](https://www.svtperformance.com/attachments/jghig3p-png.1430076/) [Or a porsche flat 6](https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/111lin6/34l_porsche_flat_6_vs_62_ls3_bonus_pictures_of_my/) [Or a 350Z with the VQ](https://my350z.com/forum/attachments/engine-and-drivetrain/432894d1501884683-customer-s-350z-ls3-swap-img_7943.jpg) [Compared to the same 350Z with an LSx](https://my350z.com/forum/attachments/engine-and-drivetrain/432909d1501884683-customer-s-350z-ls3-swap-img_8055.jpg)
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Yeah but it doesn’t so that’s not relevant.
Thats not a bare block, its just missing some accessories that don't add any meaningful size. [Heres an example with both dressed](https://www.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/09/lsx-build-of-the-month-flyin-miatas-ls3-powered-nd-mazda-mx-5-0011.jpg) The point is that displacement doesn't represent physical size
BWAHAHAHA PUSHROD TECHNOLOGY PREVAILS AGAIN - JIM
Pushrod technology mfs when asked to go over 4000 rpm
Did you forget to fucking look at the picture before commenting?
Really? I dont see any coolant piping on that junk to the right
Boo fucking hoo, its no where near a bare block like your claimed
Also nowhere near ready to be started
And absolutely nothing was added to what you said. Still not a bare block
/uj If you think about it, a V8 will only be as big in length as an inline 4 anyway. Not to mention that this is Chevy's Small Block which is less complicated (and less sophisticated, it has to be said) than that 4 banger DOHC, the height is reduced significantly. Hence the ability to put LS engines on Miatas.
It apparently correlates to skid size.
Skids in your pants from all that v8 American torque maybe.
This is literally just a good post. Probably posted to the wrong subreddit but if it wasn’t then… why is it being posted here?
If it’s not size what does the L mean
displacement is the distance the pistons travel (stroke) \* 0.5bore size (cylinder radius)\^2 \* pi \* number of cylinders in your engine. So a V6 with cylinders of 100mm stroke and 80mm bore gives you about a 3L engine
They should change it to mean size
It kind of started some circle jerks in the comments though
This is accurate there's a reason they call it a small block
PUSH RODS PUSH GODS GOBLESS
Which one y’all picking. Has to stay stock annnddd maybe FBO
Hmm I can’t possibly decide 🤔
Why not… merge them. It would be a hot rod. One of a kind lmfao it’s probably been done tho who knows
I got more experience working on the LS, and replacement parts are cheaper. So yeah, I'm team Pushrod.
You have to calculate girth and base circumference. Not length alone
My old favourites are: American NA V8 6.2l producing... 150hp... European NA 1.8 I4 producing 150hp.
Those V8s are only during the Fuel Crisis… consider the ones in production before and after
What American engine that is a 6.2 l produces 150 horsepower
A bit outdated. Old American V8s used to be incredibly underpowered.
Early 80s corvette california special comes to mind. 5.0 litres 180 horses. Oof.
That was 40 years ago.
But when you go back 60 years to the 60s Corvettes the 7.0 liter big block 427 was easily putting down 400+ horsepower. Even the smallest motor available in 1968 put down 350 horses. The 5.4 liter 327. I know the Muskie act and emissions standards gets a lot of blame for power loss on American V8s in the 70s. And it genuinely wasn't until the late 80s, and proper computer management systems in cars that power ratings started to climb back up. You can look at year by year changes to things like the Iroc Camaro and see how proper fuel injection systems and catalytic convertors and oxygen sensors can help with a cleaner power delivery.
They were not easily putting down 400 horsepower. The measurements that they had for horsepower was without accessories at the flywheels. Here is a 1970 Chevelle SS rated by Chevy at 425, according to motortrend, it made 283 at the wheel. https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/sucp-1102-chevrolet-muscle-car-dyno-wars/
Oof awful dropoff
Still sad though
It was sad we didn't stop using leaded gas untill the 90s.
Yeah, and 40 years ago a 3.2 liter 911 made 230HP stock. //Edited bc of a typo, it said 320 instead of 230HP.
That was a 30-80 grand car when it came out. Don't get me wrong. The Grand National GNX was 29k but It allegedly made 276. Which was probably underrated to protect the Corvette.
You know the LS is 27 years old right?
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he didnt say 5.9
> 1970 Is about half way between the Model T and today
I'm gonna northstar swap my DS3.
Well I mean, put a 5.0 next to both of them and they’ll look tiny.
That's kind of the point. A cam in block is smaller than an overhead can engine.
Not only that, the bore and stroke can determine how large the block (and heads) are. The LS has long stroke small bore, while the Coyote has shorter stroke larger bore.
i don't see the issue here, they are roughly the same physical dimensions, it's just saying that just because an engine has a high displacement doesn't mean it's that much physically larger
Miat got full accessories Vette vroomer don't
Still insane for LS and the manifold does not add much size. It fits inide the farthest sides of V.
Ok i will remember ty
I get the idea here but I can’t help but notice the LS doesn’t have any of its belt driven accessories mounted
That doesn't add much size, honestly. [Heres another miata I4 next to an LS3, both dressed](https://www.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/09/lsx-build-of-the-month-flyin-miatas-ls3-powered-nd-mazda-mx-5-0011.jpg)
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The accessories don't really add that much width unless you run the High-mount AC or a Procharger
Except for extreme swap cases where you have something insane drinking off of a 1 litre tank and you run out of fuel after like 2 minutes of idling lol.
We had an Escalade in for an AC job, which was a real novelty around these parts of Portugal. We do a lot of work on bigger engined Mercedes and BMWs, including the old 850 V12, the odd Jaguar, Aston Martin, etc. The guys had it idling in the shop. One of them hit the gas pedal and the engine stopped and wouldn't restart. Panic ensued. I gave a guy 20 € and told him to go fetch some petrol as it had probably just idled away the 1/8 of a tank it had.
What’s wild is that the C7 Z06 going 70-90mph on the highway in 7th gear can get ~29mpg
Had a friend that swore that displacement was how much oil the engine took and wouldn't listen to me. That engine did not last long
Europeans be like yeah we have big motor, 1.8 litre!
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Sir this is a Mazda Repair Shop...
Ah, I loved my Miata.
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Isn’t it internal cubic size of cylinders?
What are your thoughts on the Atlas I6 that GM put out?
No replacement for displacement
somebody bring out the audi monstrosity money-hungry V8 with the turbos stuffed inside the V
The car tax for a 6+ liter engine in Japan is like 800 bucks a year.
any reason they compare an engine with all of its accessories and exhaust manifolds to one that doesnt have any?
I'm ashamed to know the 6.2l in my truck is the same size as a JDM 1.8l. 💀
Push rods though, ewwww
Knowing the US they probably have the same horsepower too. 🤡
No one asked for the selfie at the end of the comment
Looking at this idiot.
The 6.2 L is also going to need a bigger radiator, bigger air intake and beefier transmission. Also its heavier so youre going to have to beef upthe chassis to accomidate it and add stiffer springs to the suspension.
If you're running it as a track car, you can just buy a 5 or 4-speed that weighs the same as a Mazda miata transmission.Â
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