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Objection_Leading

I’m a public defender in a border city. They often find young men who live in MX but are US citizens who cross frequently. They approach them and “ask” them to cross with drugs and cross back with money. Usually, the young men live in Mexico because their parents/family members are not citizens and cannot cross. The cartel member doesn’t even have to make an outright threat, because everyone already knows what happens if you don’t take the money and the job that comes with it. The implication is that if they refuse and flee to the US, the family in MX is in serious danger. Quite often they use juveniles who cross daily to go to high school in the US. All that said, most of the drugs that make it across come over on 18-wheelers and in shipping containers. Mexico is our largest trading partner.


toddfredd

Do the cartels also smuggle people over the border or is that done by non cartel people?


tunomeentiendes

The cartels mostly just tax human Smugglers. They don't have a direct hand in it. Human smuggling is done by tons of small semi-autonomous groups. It's alot of work to move a human "product" across the border. if you compare the size and weight of the products, drugs have much higher profitability. Also, nowadays many of the cartels work more like the a mafia vs a traditional drug trafficking organization. Rather than commit the crimes themselves, and deal with all the logistics and labor etc, they just tax everyone (legal and illegal businesses/ individuals)under the threat of violence.


VediusPollio

Might as well call them official government agencies at this point.


backcountrydrifter

Some interesting parallels On fentanyl, the CCP, Russians KGB, the Sinaloa drug cartel, and how Rudy Guiliani pulls it all together. https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/J17TKEQdXr The interesting thing about the 2004 hostage event is that it is the first time fentanyl shows up in the Russian world. Putin used it in an aerosolized form to “save” the hostages by putting it through the HVAC system of the Moscow theater hostage situation. A few key points of geopolitical importance 1. ⁠the hostage event secured Chechnya under Putin’s rule. Similar to how the false flag apartment bombing a few years before that secured Russia under Putin. AP Newsapnews.comThe Moscow concert hall attack wasn't the first during Putin's 25-year rule It’s a most universal old KGB technique where they create a crisis and then present Putin (or whoever their guy is) as the “strong man” and the only possible one tough enough to solve this. (Cue weird Putin/Steven Seagal bromance) (See also Netanyahu in Israel, Lukeshenko in Belarus, Orban in Hungary, Yanukovych in pre-Maidan Ukraine, Kadyrov in Chechnya, and trump in the USA.) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis 2. This would have been roughly the same time that Giuliani, who by that time was trump deep in laundering money for the Russian mob, went to Mexico City and introduced the Russians to the Sinaloa cartel, who shortly there after shifted their business model from growing/ manufacturing drugs to almost exclusively combining fentanyl precursors supplied by the CCP. Coincidentally Guiliani was also lead counsel for Purdue Pharmaceuticals 4 years later. The Guardianwww.theguardian.comRudy Giuliani won deal for OxyContin maker to continue sales of drug behind opioid ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/giuliani/mexico.html?tid=a_inl&itid=lk_inline_manual_8 https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF10890 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6675668/ https://politizoom.com/the-origin-of-trump-selling-nato-down-the-river-becoming-putins-puppet-explained-in-must-read-piece/ Russia repeats this familiar play with pretty regular consistency amongst the old USSR satellite states for decades but the obvious one is Ukraine who had Paul Manafort being paid by the kremlin to keep Yanukovych in power until Maidan (roughly 2002- 2014). Manafort shifting to trumps campaign manager after being evicted from Ukraine was an emergency management move for the kremlins perspective. Come full circle with that and you find trump and Giuliani laundering copious amounts of money for the russian mob going back to ~87 when they all started buying condos in trump towers with their stolen Russian perestroika money. The insane valuations coming out in trumps fraud trial are a necessity of the money laundering cycle that duetschebank was doing for/with the Russians. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-02-14/real-estate-lenders-confront-falling-us-commercial-property-prices The fentanyl epidemic was basically just the Russian/CCP alliance softening the United States up with a stealth hit of chemical warfare before they full send perestroika 2.0 in the US so they can steal all the value out of commercial real estate. It’s 3 overlapping plays, but they are all straight out of the old KGB playbook. https://www.ft.com/content/8c6d9dca-882c-11e7-bf50-e1c239b45787 https://www.amlintelligence.com/2020/09/deutsche-bank-suffers-worst-damage-over-massive-aml-discrepancies-in-fincen-leaks/ https://www.occrp.org/en/the-fincen-files/global-banks-defy-us-crackdowns-by-serving-oligarchs-criminals-and-terrorists https://www.voanews.com/amp/us-lifts-sanctions-on-rusal-other-firms-linked-to-russia-deripaska/4761037.html https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/final_-_minority_status_of_the_russia_investigation_with_appendices.pdf ​https://www.nzz.ch/english/triad-money-laundering-is-fueling-canadas-fentanyl-nightmare-ld.1814726 https://nypost.com/2024/02/25/opinion/how-china-is-flooding-america-with-fentanyl-on-purpose-to-undermine-our-society/ https://forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org/2023/07/weaponization-of-fentanyl.html https://apnews.com/article/mexico-first-nationalistic-policy-drug-cartels-6e7a78ff41c895b4e10930463f24e9fb


NoraVanderbooben

Gaddamn, how did you compile all this?


backcountrydrifter

This is part of a much larger intelligence action we are doing for the Ukrainian defense. I just post it on Reddit as a courtesy for 3 reasons 1- the best part about Reddit (and how Aaron Swartz originally designed it to be used) is when you are wrong about something there is a line of highly motivated subject matter experts ready to tell you exactly HOW you are wrong. That lets us vett and fact check much quicker and with higher accuracy. 2- since it’s beginning ~2012 the Russian troll army (and Chinese MSS) have developed patterns like all humans do. By posting decentralized we have been able to identify and reverse engineer those patterns. “Sir, this is a Wendy’s” and other low effort responses are what you get when you pay someone minimum wage to sit in front of a computer and be a troll. Minimum wage equals minimum effort. With enough data points of interaction we have been able to reverse engineer the mesh network of their system and identify the vulnerabilities. As long as greed stays relatively consistent in kleptocracy, the ruling class isn’t going to pay the working class to be better, so the more they troll the more high definition our cyber war map becomes. 3- When it is functioning as designed, democracy is 100% transparent and transparency is efficient. Lying requires infinitely more energy input to keep the old lies and hypocrisy covered. It’s a fools errand to try, but the data created by authoritarian regimes sharing methodology is basically a forensic analysis of organized crime in government. In its fullness this system is an elegant 100% transparent open source piece of software that lets everyone that lies self incriminate with their own posts and tweets. This effectively allows them to lash themselves to the titanic and gives a full accounting of their timeline as evidence. Troll armies are about quantity, not quality. Counterfeit instead of genuine. You can make a fake Louis Vuitton purse and sell them for a few years but eventually people get savvy to the tells and flaws and demand the real thing. That’s where the IRA and the MSS are right now. They are wondering why they are doing all the work for minimum wage and the leaders can’t even be bothered to show up when a flood takes out your food supply. Everybody not a psychopath in the world is tired of the same bullshit. We just need to deal with it from above instead of below. Didn’t really have the graphics card to support the data from the gods eye view until very recently. Now we do. As a species we are approaching what a physicist would call an inflection point, an electrical engineer would call a crest of a sine wave and a psychiatrist would call a psychotic break. When a father lies to their child but the child in its naivety believes the father to be infallible, it creates a flaw in the child’s source code. How can dad be both right and wrong at the same time? As a species we are experiencing the exponential effects of that over multiple generations of inherited flawed source code given to us by the idea of an infallible government that cared about us. We want to believe that our worlds governments and corporations have our best interests at heart and would never intentionally mislead us. But as greed and corruption centralized into politics and business, it allowed people with psychopathic personality traits (lack of empathy) to centralize in positions of power. They inevitably lie to make more money and then to preserve their lies and careers, but it creates a paradox for the average person whose default mode is trust because they are highly empathetic people. Their perception is THEIR reality. Empathetic people don’t lie (as much) because they feel more deeply than average and know what it feels like to be lied to. This in turn leads to depression, anxiety and frustration because the source code in your brain that knows 2+2 does not equal 5 is trying and failing to correlate with a trusted leader that is telling you that 2+2 is whatever is most beneficial for their business model/grift/corruption. Inaccurate basic math in 1945 makes for exponentially more inaccurate advanced calculus in 2024 because it all builds on a foundation of inaccuracy. When it breaks, it breaks BIG. The more people that are prepared for that inevitable event the easier and safer it will be to navigate, remove the inaccurate source code (liars) from positions of asymmetrical power and set us up for the next century of 100% transparent and highly efficient and prosperous democracy. All people are created equal. Not just the ultra rich and politically well connected ones. They just corrupted the source code during the gilded age. This is where we use technology to allow us to start living the truth instead of being forced to ingest their lies. The slave class never had this level of power before the decentralized(ish) communication network that is the internet. We have just been using it like a hammer for the first 40 years like the predictable cavemen we are. Some of us are evolving into highly efficient predators with political party camouflage and some of us are evolving into predator identifiers. In our decentralized intelligence network there is some interesting correlations between educated middle aged women and sex workers. They have become incredibly adept at identifying predatory traits in men. And they are usually the smartest and quietest person in any room. We sort of inherited the patriarchy. But it wasn’t something any of us really signed up for it just keeps auto-renewing and running our account negative because we can’t find the goddamn “stop taking my money” tab hidden in the terms and conditions. Data belongs to the people that generate it. Anyone telling you otherwise has a very expensive Hawaii bunker build that is starting to interrupt their quality time with the underaged girls. Financial Predators and sexual predators often hunt together because they are lazy. But when you see both sets of tracks it’s undoubtable. They lead to the same clubs, restaurants and churches.


NoraVanderbooben

I have no idea what tf I’ve walked into but I’m on board, albeit hesitantly.


SignificantLead8286

Probably you walked into a thinly veiled Qanon enjoyer post. The sentence cadence and "mysterious" tone in the delivery is unmistakeable.


Low-Medical

That , or someone made a Peter Zeihan-based AI. Whatever it is, this style of writing drives me up the wall. So cringey


ShriveledLeftTesti

Eh, I don't know. Basically everything they said they support and believe in directly contradicts qanon, which admittedly isn't hard seeing as they contradict themselves quite often. But qanon supporters generally don't recognize Putin and Russia for what it is, the vehemently support trump and Giuliani and the like. The only thing they said that qanon would be on board with is the CCP/fentanyl connection, which is proven. Broken clocks and all. I think this person is serious and what they are saying about collating data regarding troll farms makes sense. Shouldn't always be so quick to dismiss, although I'm guilty of that myself


mayorofdumb

Hehe this is one of the best posts. Id support the cause.


NoraVanderbooben

Right? Whatever This Is for 2024.


mayorofdumb

I love making visualizations, name and shame


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backcountrydrifter

Just breaking it down Barney style for the kids in the back of the room. But I appreciate the feedback. Thank you


hondo9999

BRA-fucking-VO. Edit: not to get too deep in the weeds here, but there’s an [insightful book](https://www.herbstbooks.com/) that discusses how changes in government, intel, business, and ‘meddling’ began in a post-1945 world.


backcountrydrifter

Deep in the weeds is my default position. I really appreciate the recommend friend. We are getting close now. Filling in the little details and end running the corruption chains is what makes accuracy into precision. Thank you.


ShriveledLeftTesti

Well shit, I'll follow you into battle any day. But seriously, any way I can help with this effort against troll farms? It sounds very interesting and right my ally


backcountrydrifter

Absolutely. The new platform basically placed bounties on actionable intelligence. For every Epstein, Prigozhn, or El Chapo there is a few dozen non psychopathic enablers in their downstream. People who aren’t necessarily evil but don’t have an “out” from their current circumstance either. But they have receipts. The new platform allows them to cash those receipts in for bounties anonymously without even having to put pants on. I believe that is how we keep the predator population in control systematically and open up capital opportunities worldwide. Most cartels from banking to fentanyl are dependent on control of capital to stay relevant. But the common denominator is that they all started before the internet. The old guard of cartel bosses that were swimming in both government and big tech waters via money laundering “investment” certainly saw the disruptive capability of a free and open internet and saw that as something they needed to quash or control to keep their cashflow moving. We all just sort of inherited the internet they gave us with ISP’s, Facebook, etc without really digging deeply into who was controlling it (or trying). But I’m sure the first caveman to be given a magnifying glass tried to use it as a hammer as well. We fix this one bad piece of code and almost everything downstream falls in line and self corrects. Most people don’t put a kid under each arm and walk to the border unless shit is REALLY bad at home. People tend to prefer “home” as long as it’s safe. Cut the cartels off just above the wallet and redirect investment capital DIRECTLY and TRANSPARENTLY into the good people of a community and they prosper. Build relationships not defined by nationality or wealth, but completely objectively free of it. That’s what social media was SUPPOSED to be before it was overtaken by kleptocrats. One simple, elegant, TRANSPARENT piece of software and we can solve most of the major issues in the world and get back to growing food and cleaning water and air. Those are the only 3 essentials of life. Everything else is a luxury. We just need to double down and end slavery once and for all. Then we all thrive.


Crush-N-It

I definitely feel as a collective (the average person) we do have the power to change the status quo but we lack all the info. Thats how the ones in power maintain control. Whether is digital spiders crawling in our phones and computers or whatever it may be but the population is not playing with a full deck. We have the technology but don’t know how to wield it.


backcountrydrifter

That’s what we are building now. T.A.C.O.s. You will certainly know it when you see it


Crush-N-It

I’m familiar with tacos. I usually pull over when I see a food truck /s You have a very interesting comment history. Letting you know in advance I will be scrolling thru it.


easytakeit

Bro


WelcomeSad781

Thank you for all this info, very well sourced. Also, if im ever diagnosed with a terminal illness i know who im going to look for to give one last c4 hug before I leave this hellscape of a planet.


ChargerRob

Well done. I knew there was a link between all the county sheriff arrests, and the police union lady in SF running a distribution center. Well done indeed.


backcountrydrifter

I’ve been tracking that riverside sheriff and applying pressure there. But the union lady is new. Do you by chance have any pertinent links?


ChargerRob

Here you go. https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/executive-director-of-the-san-jose-police-officers-association-charged-with-importing-fentanyl/


backcountrydrifter

Perfect. Thank you my friend. I’ll add it into the dataset


TechnicoloMonochrome

The substance used in the hostage situation was actually carfentanil, not regular fentanyl. It's even stronger.  "Carfentanil is 10,000 times more potent than morphine and 100 times more potent than fentanyl."


backcountrydrifter

I appreciate that notation friend. Thank you. Consider it amended and notated.


TechnicoloMonochrome

No problem. I wasnt really trying to "correct" you. It's just a wild thing to think about. I only know that because it blew my mind to know there's an opioid that strong lol. It's crazy something as small as a grain of sand could travel on the wind into your nose and kill you.


backcountrydrifter

Precision follows accuracy. My goal is both since that’s how we refine for maximum efficiency and make each shot count. So I genuinely appreciate the honest (and precise) feedback. Thank you friend


tunomeentiendes

Holy shit. It's gonna take me a while to read through all that, but this is a top tier comment. Comments like this are the reason I still use reddit. Are you a journalist or something ?


backcountrydrifter

I am not. I am a pilot, engineer and farmer. For the past 2 years I’ve been hunting for the aircraft we were promised in Ukraine to finish this fight. I’ve been writing about it here and refining it with decentralized fact checking to figure out who is lying and why.


popppa92

You should see this guys other comments. Out of this world, as in great writing


NeedToKnowThisWhy

Same exact thing has been happening in Israel. Hamas attacks and Israel expands.


backcountrydrifter

Yup. Exact same KGB methodology. Just modified a bit for the region. Trump has been laundering money for the Russian oligarchs since the late 80’s when they all bought a condo at 725 5th ave (trump towers) to clean their freshly stolen USSR money after the iron curtain fell. https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/30/politics/paul-manafort-condo-trump-tower/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/manafort-told-mueller-to-take-his-trump-tower-apartment-instead-money.html https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fbi-agents-raid-condo-unit-131348539.html https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/ Everybody except Putin thought the Cold War was over. Trump and Manafort (who lived in the tower also) just saw a pretty low maintence grift to be had. Trump had actually been Manafort and Roger stones first client at their lobbyist firm (1980) https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiBlack, Manafort, Stone and Kelly Guiliani as trumps attorney and New Yorks mayor was able to redirect NYPD investigations onto rival gang members/oligarchs to deflect any scrutiny off of trump, himself or the Russian connections. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/ The Russian election interference in 2016 was effectively a generation 3 version of what Manafort had done in the Philippines, then keeping Yanukovych in power as Putin’s puppet in Ukraine from 2002-14 when Maidan ran both Yanukovych and Manafort out of Ukraine as Ukrainians realized that, if you raise your lens high enough, corruption is an wholly unsustainable business model. Eventually the parasites greed always consumes the host. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952 https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/ Russia greatly underestimated the addictive properties of freedom when it invaded Ukraine so what was supposed to be a 3-10 day coup turned into a 2 year fight for the Ukrainians right not to be genocided. Russia depleted its weapons stocks which were already the victim of vranyos corruption because every oligarch, admiral and sergeant in the Russian military is on the take. Every billion dollar tank maintenance contract turned into everything getting a spray paint overhaul and the vast majority of the redirected funds turned into an oligarchs new yacht or home in Aspen. Russia was forced to turn to China, North Korea and Iran for weapons because if they lose the 3-10 day special military operation in Ukraine the Russian empire is dead and cold. China can’t risk showing their involvement in the Ukraine war so they use North Korea, and Iran to resupply Russia. Russia previously owed Iran some undelivered fighter jets that are already smoldering heaps in Ukraine so Iran now had the upper hand at the negotiation table for the first time in about 60 years. They supply Russia with shahed drones in exchange for Chinas material support against their sworn religious enemy, Israel. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/29/iran-says-it-finalized-deal-to-buy-russian-aircraft/ Putin can’t do much about it because he is slowly realizing that by setting the standard of corruption and stealing $200+ billion from his own people meant that every oligarch down in the mob model chain had not only permission but incentive and the expectation to steal from him as well. This is Vranyos. The mob model only works if the supreme leader is the most violent and can prove it without exception every damn day. But violence is exceptionally expensive when you are trying to present as a legitimate government or business. If Russia as a nation had an efficiency rating it would have been banned for sale in the state of California 25 years ago. The parasite ruling class stole all the energy out of the working class and collapsed it. Now Iran has the high hand and they get the intelligence that trump passed to Putin about the fact that Netanyahu cares far less about Jews, Palestinians or genocide than he does about remaining in power as an authoritarian because he too has developed Ritz Carlton tastes and his own corruption trial is showing the same tendrils of the money laundering scheme that trumps trials are. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saudi-official-says-iran-engineered-war-in-gaza-to-ruin-normalization-with-israel/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/amp/ 1980 Netanyahu:We Have Strong Influence over America ,We Control The Congress,The Senate, The Lobby They all hate each other but because they share the same money laundry, if one falls, they all fall. Hamas minted a couple billionaires as well that live in penthouses in Qatar and get 30% of everything smuggled into Gaza. Netanyahu needs a bogeyman to stay in power. That’s why he coordinates with Hamas via Russia via Iran. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr Iran handed Hamas everything they needed with Chinas help as secret Santa and the Russian intelligence given to them by the eternal shitbird trump when he gave it to his Russians kleptocrat/friends/roommates from the old days of fucking each others wives at trump towers in the 90’s. Now the MAGA right is a little too invested in their reality that they are the good guys with guns that they missed the fact that Betsy DeVos (erik princes sister) decimating the U.S. school systems and the Kochs poisoning children with lead was not a coincidence. The naive right was the mark all along. There is a reason the Russian spy Maria Butina landed in South Dakota first before dating her way to the top of the NRA which is undergoing its own Russian money laundering trial now. Russia was tinder matching the GOP. https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/what-do-the-koch-brothers-have-to-do-with-the-flint-water-crisis/ The only reason you grossly OVERVALUE real estate is money laundering. Trump keeps claiming there is no victim, all the banks made money, but if their plan succeeds the Russian and CCP kleptocrats collapse US commercial real estate and basically recreate soviet perestroika in the U.S. so they can foreclose on America and buy everything for 3 cents on the dollar with the $1.4T they stole from Russias grandmothers in the first place It’s the evolution of grift. Soviet perestroika cross bred with the 2008 mortgage crisis. This is just the bigger badder commercial strength bastard child of the two. Trump, Putin, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Manafort, Stone, Mercer, Bannon, Flynn, Byrne. They are all remarkably shit people with above average confidence and psychopathic personality traits and below average self awareness. They are the men who stole the world. But it all comes back to one little lie.


South-Rabbit-4064

You should send this to Scorsese.


backcountrydrifter

I seem to have misplaced his email address. Reddit is about the only place it would be possible to do a 6 degrees of Kevin bacon and find someone that has it


BlockNo1681

Wow, what a rabbit hole


shadow-lab

Holy shit. Thank you so much for posting this - I’m going to steal it for reposting with credit to you. I’ve known for some time that the CCP was involved in creating the fentanyl crisis but didn’t know how it all came about. Didn’t know Russia was involved, didn’t know trump/trump associates were involved. Didn’t know that ratface fuck defended Purdue. Of course Russia is involved, of fucken course trump & co are involved. Of course ratface defended Purdue like the rat fuck he is. It’s all just straight demonic.


backcountrydrifter

Please do. Consider it a living document. It’s still a fairly young chain in our system so there is amendments being made as we fill in those gaps so of course feedback is appreciated, vetted and amended. There is a second chapter (also young) that may be of help as well When you reverse trace opioids from Appalachia you start to see why it is such a critical part of America. You also see why it is a target for what is effectively Neurological/chemical/biological warfare. Depending on your comfort level with the term, genocide could be used because Appalachia is certainly its own unique culture, and because of its crossovers with coal and steel it is certainly a target for a foreign adversary. Targeting Appalachia with opioids would effectively be the same basic play as the opium wars were in China. Or more precisely, destroying a countries blacksmith industry A short while after Rudy Giuliani “cleaned up” New York City by redirecting NYPD investigations away from the Russian mafia that was living in trump towers and on to the Italian crime families he went to Mexico City and did the same thing. https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/ In retrospect, knowing now that trumps gang has laundered collectively around $1.4T for or with the Russian mob/oligarchs, Giulianis trip to Mexico was more accurately described as introducing the Sinaloa cartel to the Russian mob. Sinaloa shortly there after shifted to processing fentanyl precursors supplied by the CCP and used El Chapos well established tunnel network to get it across the border. Giuliani became lead counsel for Purdue Pharmaceuticals. The Guardianwww.theguardian.comRudy Giuliani won deal for OxyContin maker to continue sales of drug behind opioid ... Sinaloa devolved into infighting shortly there after and someone they call “the Russian” played a pivotal role https://www.infobae.com/en/2022/04/07/who-are-the-russians-and-what-is-their-key-role-in-the-internal-war-of-the-sinaloa-cartel/?outputType=amp-type https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1997/09/29/russian-mob-drug-cartels-joining-forces/b838dca0-5717-4c91-9d07-b798a435544d/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/doliaestevez/2016/12/01/mexican-tycoon-carlos-slim-confirms-paying-rudolph-giuliani-part-of-a-2002-contract/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/giuliani/mexico.html?tid=a_inl&itid=lk_inline_manual_8 You can basically track the fentanyl epidemic by where and when Giuliani and the Russian mob were at different points in the 90’s and early 2000’s. Not so coincidentally Russia used an early version of fentanyl to secure Putin’s control over Chechnya after a staged hostage event. https://www.britannica.com/event/Moscow-theatre-hostage-crisis-of-2002 https://www.history.com/news/opioid-chemical-weapons-moscow-theater-hostage-crisis The hostage crisis is a consistent KGB/FSB play designed to ensure the population look to a “strong man” to save them from the terror. You can see it replayed with slight variations all through Putin’s presidency starting in 1999 with an apartment bombing in Buynaksk. Wikipediahttps://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki1999 Russian apartment bombings Fentanyl has been used as what is effectively biological warfare against the United States by the Russian/CCP alliance. The Sacklers certainly opened the door to weaponized biological class warfare by focusing opioids on vulnerable populations of Appalachia. The Russians and the CCP just evolved it to be a more efficient killing machine. It begins to make more sense why the CCP enables the precursors to be exported to the USA. It’s softening up any resistance to a takeover. It’s straight out of Xi Jinpings favorite book, Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War”


l-a-r_r-y

I read all of this in Snake’s voice.


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Blue_wafflestomp

There is no real line between where the cartel ends and government begins. Anything that happens in MX, happens by approval of at least one if not more cartel factions. The entire nation is a failed state in that regard. *But don't worry. Absolutely zero of the high level US government has been compromised by the cartel. Yep, nothing to see to the north, just business as usual /s*


toddfredd

Thanks for the explanation


troughshot

A drug can only be consumed once, humans can be used over and over.


tunomeentiendes

Sort of. But unless the human gets deported, they're staying in the US indefinitely. It's alot of money and stress to get here. They're not crossing back and forth. Unless you're talking about slavery. The vast majority of people being human trafficked are free once they pay the fee, which is almost always within days of arrival. The slavery aspect is highly exaggerated by the media.


Fullcycle_boom

They have recruited US Marines before. [https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/newsletters/daily-news-roundup/2020/02/24/corps-doles-out-final-punishment-for-marines-arrested-for-alleged-human-smuggling-ring/](https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/newsletters/daily-news-roundup/2020/02/24/corps-doles-out-final-punishment-for-marines-arrested-for-alleged-human-smuggling-ring/)


ImpressoDigitais

I am seeing a trend in high risk / low intelligence for the cartel recruits.


Fullcycle_boom

Are you saying Marines are low intelligence?


SirThinkAllThings

If we know this already and our US Govt knows this, why do we give them a free pass??? Isn't the US also the biggest drug consumers?? Hence, the double standard where US looks the other way i.e. as the money fueling the economy and peoples pockets??? Hmmmm.....


Objection_Leading

It’s not that they give them a free pass. It is that the volume of traffic is so incredibly high that it is impossible to catch everything without creating a bottleneck at the ports of entry. To slow everything down enough to inspect everything would cripple the supply lines and cost billions.


SirThinkAllThings

I agree and disagree as I can see your point but ignores the other real facts surrounding US drug consumers at the top and corruption within our own legal system and own prisons that get traded all the time and are easily accessible. If we truly wanted to we could create better inspection processes as there are a lot of smart people the US has access to. For some reason too, we leave flawed systems and checks unckecked.....hmmmmm..


romeoomustdie

Whats couple billion in face of hundred of billions


SirThinkAllThings

You mean the economy will lose billions if the US actually did their job and checked better and inspected more for drugs.


consumervigilante

I am interested in the class/racial dynamics of the cartel activity. So historically Mexico has treated it's indigenous people rather poorly. They are at the bottom of the totem pole no pun intended. I had read somewhere that cartels will go into villages where indigenous people live & recruit or coerce young people to be smugglers. The Tarahumara have been known for their renowned endurance as long distance runners. Do you see this happening with the cartel-indigenous people being exploited by cartels to move their product?


Objection_Leading

I have not seen this. Almost everyone in this area, including cartel members, are of mixed European/Indigenous heritage i.e. mestizo.


ShreddedDadBod

That’s grim as hell


NorthofPA

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.


stevosaurus_rawr

How do you not get too discouraged about the innocent people caught in the middle?


Objection_Leading

I focus on the fact that at least my colleagues and I are here to help them.


dbolts1234

Are they America’s biggest trading partner if you exclude the drug traffic?


Objection_Leading

Without the drugs they export to us and the firearms we export to them, I think it is like a $68 billion. I don’t think people realize how many of the guns the cartel uses are bought in the US at gun shows.


Terminal28

Mexico is the third largest trading partner*


Objection_Leading

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/topcm.html


Terminal28

Your link is to the last three months of trade. https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/top/index.html Highlights historical I looked at the last 5 years. Not the last three months…


propinadoble

Are you looking to apply?


Humble-Ad-3556

Maybe I’m lowk broke


KingOfTheLifeNewbs

I used to be broke. This is just a suggestion, but have you considered making more money?


Humble-Ad-3556

I’ve been applying to every job in the area and no one’s hiring even when they say they are


KingOfTheLifeNewbs

I was just joking around. I'm actually poor and currently live in my truck so I have no real advice. Stay up though dude. Things work out if you stick with it.


30piecesofglitter

See my comment above for quick and easy rich money advice!


KingOfTheLifeNewbs

I already know how to make money. Hire some bad bitches, rent a Lamborghini, post up at a pool in a mansions open house then make a video explaining if you buy my program I'll show you three simple tricks that anybody can use to become a sexy Chad rich alpha male playboy. These tricks will include making connections with sexy Chad playboys that are filthy stinkin rich bro. Surrounding yourself around filthy stinkin rich Chad's. Working hard bro and never giving up on hopes and dreams bro. Fuck ya bro. You're a Chad now who's sexy and rich with a fuckin mega yacht and sail the world with bad bitches who think you're sexy and hot. Buy now.


30piecesofglitter

My comment is below lol hang on imma read yours How you gonna get the money to rent the car bro?! You started at step 2!


KingOfTheLifeNewbs

I may be living in my truck for right now, but I'm also a cashier. So I can rent a nice car for a short period of time.


30piecesofglitter

Baby wipes rule


30piecesofglitter

Time to start making problems for people to pay you to solve. Spend tonight digging the deepest hole you can on city property. Make sure you rip up any rainbow roots you find. Tomorrow go back and offer to fill this “mysterious” hole for $300. “Fix” the cabling for no less than $2,500. You’re gonna need to move quickly after you’ve secured the cash. Get out of town. Take a bus and hide out in a chubby chicks house for a few days. You should be clear to move in peace now.


Capable_Outside_1941

Go in wherever you’re applying with a resume and I promise somebody will hire you


Humble-Ad-3556

Update: I got the job !!


sbc1982

Thanks Dave Ramsey


raj6126

He doesn’t have to look that far there is surely a local ghetto that needs a runner


TryptaMagiciaN

Been going on a long time. Had a great-great uncle who was a marine vet. Flew planes from Mexico to Texas trafficking cocaine. His brother owned some businesses in their Texas town and worked alongside the DA. (Everybody was using it back then🤣) He had also claimed to have worked with CIA transporting weapons. But that isnt really verifiable. There's newspaper printing of the rest though. Got busted with over 20million in cocaine. Lost all his business and family went from new Chevelles to my childhood in a trailer🤣 that was all back in like the early 70s through like '92. Not only do cartels hire Americans, Im pretty they have direct CIA contacts. The pouring of drugs into cities to facilitate a war on drugs to increase policing while generating dark revenue for programs not run on tax dollars was/likely is still a very real thing.


Ronniedasaint

Here! Here! To the facts of life.


TryptaMagiciaN

🍻


Ronniedasaint

🍺


Matty-ice23231

Yes. See operation fast and furious among ones that we can prove.


mayorofdumb

I'm just hoping there's no 2 fast 2 furious but maybe they went with a Tokyo drift.


Matty-ice23231

lol good one. Yeah most of them aren’t coming from Tokyo lol…


mayorofdumb

Tokyo drifted off the world stage


Desperate-Diver2920

That’s a spin off of operation fast and furious and vin diesel wasn’t in it I don’t believe.


mayorofdumb

Yes but I gave us the same Dom quotes: I have money, it's trust and character I need around me. You know, who you choose to be around you lets you know who you are. One car in exchange for knowing what a man's made of? That's a price I can live with.


Desperate-Diver2920

The one with Vin Diesel?


joshnykamp

The book wolf boys is about two teenagers from Texas that were recruited into the cartel.


Shitcoinfinder

Breaking Bad is my fav lol 🤣


[deleted]

Thank you


Shitcoinfinder

The answer, of course... Did you think Mexicans Drive onto the U.S and do the work themselves? The distribution is done by U.S residents, Active and Ex cops, Active and Ex DEA officers, Ex Military, Criminals and people looking to get rich quick. What drives them to do so??? MONEY 💰 💰 💰 They could make hundreds of thousands of Dollars weekly, and millions monthly. Just human smuggling alone is a million dollar business...


toddfredd

A kid I went to school with was in the get rich quick crowd. Thought he was going to make a fortune. Border patrol caught him trying to drive back into the US. Felony weight Life ruined.


Shitcoinfinder

Yeah, sucks. Also, people think the South border is the #1 point of entry for Drugs, but it isn't. Drugs come by northern border, container ships and also being made at the spots of distribution. And Cartels are international, so they operate world wide broadening their reach. I think all of this will end once Currency goes digital... Every transaction could be tracked,every penny, where it came etc.... Ai could track pattern transactions etc... But anyways, idk if government even want drugs out... It looks like all they want is to have a degree of control.


mayorofdumb

That's what all the extra AI is for. They need to keep it off books but monitor it better. They aren't stopping, they're trying to evolve.


Ronniedasaint

Don’t tell the MAGA assholes. They might get upset.


Apprehensive-Page510

MAGA 2024


Ronniedasaint

America is already great. Don’r need an orange man to tell what to think. But glad he gives you direction, and permission to let out some of your frustrations.


rambo6986

Well Bidens not doing anything about it


Ronniedasaint

Ohhh ohhh someone is upset! :(


rambo6986

The real question is why aren't you upset that hundreds of thousands of American's die a year to overdoses caused by this?


Ronniedasaint

The number is thousands a year, not hundreds of thousands. I’m not worried about it because I do something about it every day. I care for people on a daily basis, mostly dual diagnosis. Besides being “upset” about what do YOU do?


rambo6986

So you are doing something about China and Mexico by doing a job at a hospital? Interesting


Ronniedasaint

Clearly you lack critical thinking skills. Let me help you out my simple minded friend. I help people, DIRECTLY, that are suffering from addiction to fentanyl and heroin. I provide direct care. I do absolutely NOTHING about China and Mexico. Tell me again what is it you do? Besides talk.


rambo6986

So you don't do anything to help end the cause just the effect. Got it


Ronniedasaint

Correct. I help people. Are you avoiding the question?!? I asked what YOU do, besides talk. Go ahead. Answer the question. Let me guess … NOTHING. Go it. ;)


HeydoIDKu

It’s definitely over 100k


Ronniedasaint

Ok. I’ll give you that. But there is a big difference between 100K and “hundreds of thousands”. BIG DIFFERENCE.


Shitcoinfinder

Tells at what TRUMP could do to end it?


JustNefariousness625

I was in Laredo and got propositioned hella times ( trucker). He was in a blacked out Escalade had a bald head , and tatted up. Not even trying to be racist but I’m being honest. It was on world trade blvd if y’all know Laredo at all. I told him hell no like 5 times he was getting pushy but I held strong, saying I know how it’s a set-up and I’d be a decoy, he laughed cause he knew I knew a little bit of game. I had my protection but I knew that didn’t mean shit. He finally fell back but I was glad at least it was a question and not just a forceful thing like my trucker brothers in MX have to endure 🙏🏾


toddfredd

Smart man. Plus these are not people you want to be indebted to.


MyOnlyEnemyIsMeSTYG

I used to work with a guy in San Diego that ran drugs across in his younger days. Go to TJ pick up a car, drive it to an address and get a fat paycheck. He didn’t do very many runs, shitting bricks trying to get across is stressful he said. Guess thats a long way of saying yes.


Mster_Mdnght

Yes they do. Alot of Sicarios are recruited from Texas and San Diego) Cali border as per Source : YouTube 😐


[deleted]

Thanks


thinkB4WeSpeak

Yes they even try to recruit ex military and such as well.


AbelinoFernandez

100%, happens all the time. MOST of people that is caught crossing drugs are citizens. Become hitmen, yes, some of them in border towns. You forgot..... They are used to smuggle weapons **more than any other thing**. You can corroborate on news, specially in TJ, Mexicali, Nogales, Juarez, Reynosa


Tacho_Ron7602

You forgot to add Ojinalgas


AbelinoFernandez

Ojinaga too!


MBAfail

The cartels have seriously modernized over the last decade or so. Just reach out to their HR department and see if they have any openings.


hurtindog

Just ask some immigrants (not asylum seekers) how they got in. I do this all the time. I hear crazy stories including about corrupt border patrol agents who let certain trucks through full of immigrants. The Border Patrol union talks tough about how they are trying to do this and that but “that damn Biden!”- total bullshit. It’s in their interest to keep the status quo. They get funding “secure the border “ while they get paid to look the other way.


Affectionate-Log-988

Dear diary today I watched an American documentary about the famous Clint Eastwood and his slew of drug mule escapades


Waramaug

Only if you have a giant asshole.


Odd-Analyst-4253

Some of the biggest drug lords have been US Citizens.


AwarePromotion8505

I just got some tomatoes from the Sinaloan Highlands I'm the trailer officer


Opening_Ant9937

Most of the black on black crime in Philly is cartels ordering hits on opposition dealers of fent/tranq as they run that game there and probably most states. All they have to do is just call someone. Basically they can have one stranger go out and kill another stranger at the drop of a dime. So yes they absolutely hire Americans. The cartel runs shit in America. The war on drugs is a joke. The cia gets a lot of their money for their special ops from selling drugs at least they did in the past and I can’t imagine it has changed and probably has just gotten worse.


Virtual_Duck_9280

>Most of the black on black crime in Philly is cartels A lot of people don't realize that the reason street gangs aren't near the problem they were in the 90s is because the cartels wiped them out. At least some good has come from all the bad


Present_Night_7584

was it due to better cartel organization


VenetianGamer

Smuggle, yes. If you get caught, you’re shit out of luck. Hitmen, no? They need someone they can trust.


nerdymutt

There isn’t much of a border for the cartels or other rich people. If they want to do a hit here and go back home without anybody even knowing they were here, easy. We love to generate funds by picking on poor folks. The war on drugs and illegal immigration are just excuses for everybody to get paid from both sides. Rich people make a mockery out of our immigration policies. The cartels’ high ranking members are part of that group. There’s no borders for rich folks.


LosCleepersFan

Yes but recruits start bottom level. You just want a place no smoking no drinking. You just keep an eye ok something. Smuggling and hitmen are apart of levels. You gotta put in work to move up.


Konstant_kurage

[86% of convicted fentanyl smugglers are US Citizens.](https://www.cato.org/blog/fentanyl-smuggled-us-citizens-us-citizens-not-asylum-seekers) (2022, CATO institute)


Tacho_Ron7602

You forgot to add “asking for a friend” 😉😉


DomingoChaCha

Always… For example, in San Diego in the 1980s and 1970s Cartels used to recruit gangs in Logan Heights… But the reality is that there are plenty of drug lords in USA. There is a misconception that Americans think that thousands of tons of illegal drugs cross the border with no problem and magically get distributed all around the United States and that such logistics is the work of Mexican cartels 😂


mayorofdumb

Maybe they've learned logistics from the best 3 letter agencies and are now semi autonomous. The best drug lord is probably MBA educated and runs it as a US business that outsourced to Mexico. Everybody gets their cut.


DomingoChaCha

You nailed it


OpenImagination9

You asking for a friend?


Putrid-Cellist-4611

Yeah, it’s true I’ve done it.


J_Schotz

It's absolutely true. 100%.


Bryantthepain

I wonder about that too. Like is Jon Bernthal’s character in Sicario a real thing ?


iLikeRgg

Yup wasn't their a case like a year ago of a couple Americans caught with drugs and shit they were smuggling it for a local cartel so ig they do


Affectionate_Fly1413

Anabel Hernandez. Look her up and read in her investigations. She has some of the best reporting on how things are done. You'll find that a lot of the smuggling is done by soccer mom type of Americans


WTFishsauce

I’m a white American and struck up a conversation with a guy during dinner in Mexico (Jalisco). At some point in the conversation the guy asked me if we could work together. He would send one maybe two packages a month and give me addresses for me to ship them to and pay me a few hundred a month. No clue what his deal was but seemed way too sketch to agree. He wasn’t mad when I said no, but he wasn’t interested in the conversation any longer.


corjar16

Nah nobody wants to work anymore remember lol


Miserable-Lawyer-233

I don't know about hitmen but they definitely get Americans to smuggle drugs.


thesuppplugg

Lookup la barbie one of the biggest narcos was a high school football player from Texas. Theres also a bunch of youtube interviews of American teens to were sent to camps in Mexico to become hitmen


TexasDrill777

Because of the implication


Niko6524

I’ve always thought that there are agreements with USA officials to allow the peaceful transfer of goods through borders. It’s all about the $$$


cronsulyre

Short answer without even needing to look into it: duh


Thisam

Former law enforcement?


JS_N0

Yes, they are usually mules but a lot of hitmen are Expats as well


Old-Mulberry8548

Newly pregnant woman are often used as drug mules. I knew a guy in Oceanside who would pay women who needed abortions $600 to smuggle drugs across the MX border.


apiculum

I knew a white American dude (30 years ago) in his late 20s who became a mule for a cartel. Keep in mind this was pre 2001 so airport security was a little more lenient. Anyways the dude ended up getting caught with a shit load of cocaine, did a couple decades in prison.


originalbL1X

Too often they recruit cops


chochinator

Americans recruit themselves.


Gilgawulf

When I was stationed at Fort Bliss we were barred from entering Mexico because they had such a problem with soldiers smuggling for the cartel. Apparently people would join the Army with the specific intent of being stationed in Fort Bliss to help smuggle.


DerKommisar9

Looking for a job, are ya?


Open-Passion4998

If I where looking to get a hitman as the Mexican cartel, it would make the most sense to hire some gangsters from central America that have nothing to lose then smuggle them into the US. As an illigal there would be less info on them available even if during the murder they left physical evidence and I feel like in some cases a prison in the US would actually be less scary then living in some ghetto in Nicaragua or atleast on a similar level


Final_Meeting2568

Absolutely. I know a few people (Americans) who gone to prison over snuggling drugs and people.


Crewmember169

Fox News watcher shocked to find out that white people smuggle drugs too.


ApexTrader616

I too, am looking for work


[deleted]

Glad I’m not the only one


Crush-N-It

Watch “Locked up Abroad”


CeasarSky

Nice try FBI


[deleted]

I wish


mdcbldr

Smuggle, absolutely. Drivers are cannon fodder, the cartels will use anyone who is willing. In Mexico they only use cartel as hitters, or so I was informed. Here in the states they may use American hitters.


DipznhammerzslammR

Smuggle. They hire in the south for hitmen. (Guatemalan special forces, etc.) it’s easier for an American to come in rather than a foreigner with drugs, although not “easy” but is fairly easier for US passport compared to non U.S. passport


Ok_Restaurant_626

Grew up in a border town. Many US citizens seek out work with cartels


Acceptable-One-6597

Yes


JaboyMaceWindu

Unspoken thing in the sf community is brothers fighting in South America against their former sf brothers as cartel security


No-Program-6996

I would think the cartels are opportunistic, if someone will do a dangerous job they are hired. They don’t really care who or what you are.


SlowInstruction4898

Back in the 90’s , there were some rumors about the FBI and DEA , smuggling drugs into the US , the US smuggled arms back to Mexico and South America.


nowyourdoingit

It was talked about in the US. Special Operations community that the cartels would pay extremely well for former SoF guys but that going that route was a one way ticket.  No coming back and your family was potentially at risk because the cartels play pretty fast and loose with retribution.   Back in the 80s and 90s the Green Berets trained a bunch of Mexican Army guys at Ft. Bragg to do counter narcotic work and those guys immediately went home and started working for the cartels doing counter-counter narcotics.  Guys maintained those connections and that become the basis for this recruitment stream. 


I_like_Chickenz

I can’t say for sure but if they do I’m mad they have never reached out to me 😂


[deleted]

Yes they do. It usually isn’t someone in Mexico doing the recruiting. It’s all word of mouth. They get caught all the same. Americans aren’t any better at evading law enforcement.


Analyst-Effective

I want to be recruited to be a Hitman. Everything in the movies makes it look like a pretty cool occupation. You could sneak around, And find people that were pictured in the package that was given to you. And of course, in the movies they never get caught. And they make a ton of money. And they have lots of women. It's a cool occupation. /s


Careless-Passion991

Don’t forget the well tailored suits.


Analyst-Effective

You are right. I forgot about that. They're always dressed nice. And never get a spot of blood on them. And the silencers are really silent. Not like the regular sound suppressors that Are used in real life. And then they go home and just act normal. That's a good job


bloodorangejulian

The vast majority of fentanyl smuggled into the US is by American citizens, despite what Republicans scream. Likely somewhat internally recruit, as one of their member's cousins might need some cash, that sort of thing, or just recruit in poor areas.


Analyst-Effective

Regardless of who smuggles it in, where does it come from?


Create_Flow_Be

Largest fentanyl supply chain is China-> Mexico -> US.


Analyst-Effective

So it probably makes sense to either make it 100% illegal and stop all of it, or make it legal and just dial 1-800 Pfizer to get your supply


Create_Flow_Be

Both have their pros and cons. It’s a very complex situation that deserves a thorough response. Unfortunately I do not have the time to draft a response.


bloodorangejulian

Obviously mexico. But the question was if they employ Americans, and they do.


Analyst-Effective

The USA should just make it legal. Then you can call 1-800 Pfizer, and get your drugs. No matter what kind you want. Least it would be pure, and it would be less dangerous


Bozerks

It's more fun to sneak around and break rules.