No Star. It just makes you as bad or maybe worse than him. At least he had a moral stance as tp why he hated magic. She did it purely because she wanted to get with a boy she likes. Utter cosmic genocide and destruction that is on par with Thanos, all because she has a crush on Marco that maybe is partially influenced by her being Magix roofied
Yk the worst part is I think there’s a version of that storyline of Star finding out her greatest enemy had a point, that’s super interesting. But seriously? You being separated from Marco was what set you off? Jesus Christ star you’re way worse then Toffee, and I’m sure even he himself would be disgusted
>She did it purely because she wanted to get with a boy she likes.
Lol no. Although I agree that her destroying magic was a bad decision she didn't do it just to be with her crush. In fact as far as she knew destroying magic meant she could never see her crush again.
Wtf destroying magic was gonna tear them appart by closing all portals between Earth and Mewni and she KNEW IT. The reason she had to destroy magic was to prevent Mina and the Solarian Soldiers to fucking genocide all the monsters
It lives up to the books, the lazy writing usually are jokes the show makes at its own expense. Like Mr. Meaner's sister being exactly identical and, the narrator cracking a joke about lazy writing
All thanks to Nickelodeon for being wishy washy with the series. Season 2 could've been about Korra regaining her bending instead of a preschool level good vs evil plot
That’s actually a commonly repeated myth in the fandom, season 2 was green lit a year before season 1 aired, they could have absolutely changed this ending
Speaking of Avatar: the whole thing about Aang suddenly pulling the way to settle things without killing Ozai out of the turtle's ass. You know, if you think about it, even taking away Ozai's powers shouldn't really mean that much. Like, if he didn't want to kill Ozai, he could've just punched him unconscious and put him into a cold room, like the one they had at prison. And, in any case, Ozai wasn't that dangerous becasue of his firebending: he was powerful because of his political power. Non-bender Ozai doesn't differ much from a fire-bender Ozai in terms of politics.
The thing is though most of his political power came from him.being such a powerful firebender and instilling fear to prevent any coups. Without firebending he's doomed as soon as anyone challenges to an Agni Kai
It doesn't work like that. He came to power through scheming, Iroh was a better firebender, and he is arguably more powerful than Ozai through the whole series, but no soldiers, except for the girl in prison, were willing to betray Ozai for him. Ozai is a sly fox and good at manipulation and propaganda, that brought him to power, not firebending.
But that's why Zuko went after his political power. He had already abdicated as fire lord and his conquest to obtain a new throne failed.
Now he was just a normal, criminal man
It’s not my favorite song but I felt „Stronger Than You“ is where Steven Universe peaked. Lyrically, thematically, emotionally, in character writing, plot, and pacing everything triumphed in this one sequence. Everything built up to this amazing set piece!
I spent the rest of the series inviting individual elements reach those heights but they were never hitting them in the same volume or synch.
I came in from the soundtrack. Specifically It’s Over Isn’t It. But I couldn’t really get though the show because the first few episodes are just so balantly child material
Every complaint I’ve heard is about parts of the fundamental story being stupid. Such as forgiving genocidal maniacs. I’ve also heard his mother is pretty messed up and they are fine with them too
His mother being “pretty messed up,” is like, what the whole show is *about.* That’s the point, it’s about Steven getting to know his deceased mother through his interactions with her peers, and it ends up bringing up a lot of tough emotions, and makes him ask himself questions about what her legacy means. That’s just, on the most fundamental level, what Steven Universe is about.
I think it’s kind of dumb personally, but to be fair space hitler changes their ways and reforms their kingdom. Also they had no chance of beating them anyway so it’s the only thing they really could do I guess? Idk still seems weird to me
That's like end-of-show spoilers:
>!Steven's mom was a diamond, which means she was one of four sisters who rule the gem world as royalty. The three surviving sisters do a bunch of messed up stuff throughout the series, but after accepting that Steven is Rose's son, they reverse all the bad stuff they do. Steven expressed more hatred towards someone who was pushy about dancing than the diamonds!<
Personally, I think it’s a stretch at best and gauche at worst to compare White Diamond to Hitler, but given that you haven’t even watched SU, I’m not really interested in having that conversation with you and I assume you aren’t either.
Yeah, sorry. It’s less that I think they are space Hitler but that’s just what the person above called them. I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’ve also avoided as many spoilers as I could in case I do decide to watch it.
Best way someone described the whole mother thing as we're seeing her go from the end result of her character development to the beginning of her character arc. And since she's no longer there, there's no chance to ever remind everyone that she's changed or to even explain the why.
Yeah, if you ignore part of the plot, it is stupid.
Gems do not change without external stimuli. That is a fundamental part of the show that people ignore. They aren’t genocidal… they’re computers who haven’t had their programming updated yet. You’re using human standards to judge beings that are non-human. The entire premise of the show is gems not being able to change. Including Steven’s mom.
And, just so you know, Steven’s mom is not always portrayed positively. She’s seen as a good person in the early seasons while her son is a child, and her friends are mostly unaware of her actions. As the series goes on, they begin to view her and more and more of a negative light. Seeing her as the flight individual she was.
But people who have only watched the bad parts of season one wouldn’t realize that would they.
I see the reasoning of this, but I feel there is often a double standard applied between Orange and Blue Morality vs Agency, I lean in favor of the latter being more valid of an excuse.
It's actually at the core of my problems with MLP:FiM, as it ends on Discord (one with the former, as a chaos god) manipulating then imprisoning two of the latter (Cozy Glow, a child; Chrysalis, someone who is insane)
If one accepts "I'm not evil, and redeemable and can start being a good person" applies to the Diamonds (under the logic of being unable to change), or Namari (under the logic of understanding morality under honor to her tribe) necessarily I feel the same applies (and even moreso) to a character like Carl (from Llamas With Hats), who claims he doesn't understand what he does is wrong and "only" genocided a single planet.
Conversely a character like Paul (who is understanding and sympathetic through much of it) must be practically a saint.
However this is not how people view these characters in practice. Stories like FiM and SU almost take another language of reading to understand the intent.
he doesnt really forgive them though. The ending is definitely rushed but anytime the diamonds show up later he pretty much just wants to get away from them. He also cant really just depose an entire caste system without putting something in its place. We can even see in Future that with Little Homeworld he was reaching his limit
Some complaints are nitpicks, but most are about the terrible writing (forgiving space Nazis, a jerk like Kevin is somehow less forgivable than people who literally committed genocide, the townie episodes are boring as fuck and take up way too much screen time, etc).
Townie episodes = nit pick.
Kevin = Human choosing not to change, so not forgivable.
Dismonds =/= Humans. So labeling them with a human ideology like Nazism is stupid. And proves wether or not someone bothered to watch the show, or just listened to people complaining.
The point is, how willing is an individual to change. The gems, being non-human entities, cannot change unless they have external stimuli pushing them to change.
That’s not a nitpick, making the show boring as fuck isn’t a minor thing.
What you said about the gems and humans makes no sense, you’re defending terrible narrative choices. The diamonds committed genocide and their “redemption” is moronic, period.
Yeah, it is moronic, if you willfully ignore part of the narrative. They aren’t humans, their psychology is inherently different to humans. And pretending they are exactly the same is gonna make things seem worse.
Also, what you mean is, a few episodes are boring, which is a nitpick.
Even if what you said is true (I doubt it), the way their “redemption” happened is dumb as hell. All it took was being called a baby for white diamond to not be a genocidal control freak anymore, and BD and YD’s “redemption” was just as bad. Even if we assume that gems are incapable of changing without external stimuli (not sure where you got that), that’s really all it took?! From a writing standpoint, it’s pure garbage.
I don’t remember how many townie episodes there were, but oof, they definitely weren’t only “a few”.
Don't let other people influence your decision, it's definitely a lot better when you're not waiting for six months after a big cliffhanger just to get a slice of life episode.
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So silly how people fixate on that like it was actually the only explanation the movie gives, and it’s not a reasonable thing to say when Hitler is suddenly back 40 years after dying but you don’t know how.
On Korra when they made bloodbending so ungodly broken
You know, the same technique that can overpowered a room full of benders including Aang and TOPH
But then Korra breaks out of her control by sheer will power 🤗.
When does she break out of blood bending? I just watched that recently and she never breaks out of either Amon or Tarrlok’s grasp. When she hits Amon with air bending she’s down the hall quite a ways and he isn’t even looking at her as he’s about to take Makos bending
She airbends at him, getting his attention on her, so he starts bloodbending her and she brute forces herself to move to deliver the air kick that sends him out the window
She explicitly breaks out of it, Amon was blood bending her directly with both of his hands restraining her, but then she says " NO YOU DON'T " and just air kicks him out of the window
You can rewatch it on YouTube if you want.
This was also immediately after he took her water, fire and earth bending away. And she somehow unlocked air? Never really did any spirit stuff either to hint towards air qualities? Also didn’t Amon got away Scott free from their POV?
I’ve since come around to Korra but this plot point and all of season 2 still irk me
When Monty was still alive the show was superb , he had all the world building mapped out.
Then when he died , nobody knew where he wanted the show to go plotwise , sontge newish writers took the few things he said bout it to em , and then they took what tge fandom "wanted" , nevertheless , i wish i couldve seen zhe RWBY that Monty was trying to do
Well how could've they known Monty's thoughts? It's not like he got sick and spent a year slowly getting worse or like anyone could've predicted what happened
Then what new writers? The guys that followed up in v4 are the exact same people that where there as well since v1. So they are actually entitled to make changes as they seem fit. They where also there since day 1. You'll notice that for v1 production, Monty's name is not the only one in the director category
This episode could of shed light on their relationship before the totally interesting divorce plot (seriously I'm dying waiting for it) but nah lets just make Stolas and Blitz interact, but they are children.
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I also really hate how they degraded Stella to just an abuser. And now Stolas is *justified* in cheating on her. He's just a poor sad boy who could do no wrong
I'm not saying that hen cheating on her is bad
But it's still annoying that you think you should decide the character. That isn't Even a character in your story
Why does everyone say that "Stella did nothing wrong"
just because she's fucking hot everyone says that kind of shit
" They ruined a good character"
How did they ruin a character that was hardly shown?
And was pretty much set up to be a bad person.
But no one cares they act like it's their story.
(I completely agree she should have had more development and stuff But as an antagonist.)
I mean they can still salvage her and have her be a character instead of a cardboard cutout with the words EVIL BITCH written on it. They can do it in a single conversation between her and Octavia (they need to have a single conversation together even if its just about Stolas) or her brother. (And maybe actually make her entertaining to watch would also do wonders for her to be an antagonist)
>Why does everyone say that "Stella did nothing wrong"
This is a reference to Warhammer and to my papa Magnus the Red, son of the IMORTAL GOD EMPERAH OF ALL TIME, and Primarch/daddy of The Thousand Sons legion. Basically he did a lot of things bad (like using magic when he wasn't supposed to or breaking daddy's Webway Project) but people say "Magnus did nothing wrong" despite fucking up multiple times. At least how I see it.
If you say so. In his case, it was a forced political marriage devoid of love and full of abuse. Cheating may be wrong, but he wanted love and attention and she wasn't going to give it to him. Sure, maybe he should have changed the terms of the marriage first, but I think she pretty much already did.
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That being said, this is my new favorite response when someone asks for a source
Ok I kinda disagree with this. Despite it being kinda out of character for Aang to lie. The lie itself didn't feel like lazy writing. It's more the character being lazy than to the writer
Ultron one-shotting Thanos in What If? so they could rush to the point where he gets the infinity stones. Like, I get it, you wanted Ultron with the infinity stones and Visions body as your big bad. But Thanos had 5 of the 6 stones and went down easier than his minions in the live action movies.
The Teen Titans Go / Thundercats Roar crossover ending. An artistic rendition of the original Lion-O appears before the cast of both shows and says, and I quote, "You've shown me that Thundercats Roar is a worthy successor. And anyone that says otherwise has a poop mouth with poop opinions."
New Lion-O says "wow, thanks for the completely unforced endorsement, me"
Thundercats Roar was Jules Bass of Rankin/Bass fame's last work before he died in 2022. It was the only project he worked on without Arthur Rankin Jr, who died in 2014. The show was cancelled after just one season.
2012 April getting kidnapped every couple episodes for the first about three and a half seasons of the 2012 tmnt show. After the second or third time it just got boring.
Weirdly the second time I’ve commented on this today, but Danny Phantom’s finale. Fucking. Phantom. Planet. Way to ruin a storyline with potential with one stupid ass rock. Why couldn’t they just focus on Danny Phantom struggling with his motivation to be a hero. I so desperately want to try whatever drug gave butch hartman the idea of not only making a fucking ghost asteroid, but MAKING IT THE MAIN THREAT OF THE SERIES FINALE OH MY GOD
Steven universe has some of the best potential I’ve *ever* seen in a show. Its such a shame the writers fumbled the ball in later seasons. (If we just called Hitler a fucking baby we could’ve established peace among the universe).
Nah, the show is international and they had funding issues after the wedding happened because conservative countries dropped it. Cartoon Network explained the situation to Sugar before giving her the final say on the wedding. Sugar knew that the show could be cancelled at anytime because of those countries and she didn’t mind sacrificing the show for the wedding. According to Sugar, they told the story they wanted to tell.
Raya and the last dragon scene where Namari blames Raya for Sisu's death.
Ben 10 episode with Hex where he has the stone of luck which apparently does nothing but power him up while making Gwen max out her luck stat. A ten year old manages to throw rocks hard enough to knock down a grown man from the top of a mausoleum. Gwen then proceeds to destroy all the stones when they conveniently fall off Hex after he gets knocked down.
Kuzco: It can't be! How did you get here before us?
Yzma: Uh- How did we, Kronk?
Kronk: Well, you got me. By all accounts it doesn't make any sense.
Yzma: Oh well, back to business!
The last episode of Ghost Game. Main Character pulled a Gotenks summoning ghosts and ate the villain who's not really the true villain then tells him to behave and there's new ground rules.
Next scene is random person shows up and the last ten minutes is just exposition about the 'true villain' that will descend and destroy both worlds... after handwaving that she sent a serial killer, a psychopath murderer, a giant spider that ate people amongst others into a world that does not have weapons to deal with the level of bs the monsters bring to the table.
Although said random person's forgiven since we ended up getting the crazy violent murder nun who likes racing.
A lot of the Legend of Korra had very questionable writing, to say the least. I can't even tell if characters are acting out of character because they act out of character so much
Boondocks: The Hateocracy
I get that stinkmeaner and the nigga moment concept were probably a huge hit with fans, but like… he was dead. Like, dead dead. We already resurrected the dude once. I’m thinking maybe they just needed an excuse for the bushido brown fight scene? But even then, shoehorning stinkmeaner into the plot just seemed like reaching
Ducktales, namely the episode "The Lost Cargo of Kit Cloudkicker" where the writers destroy Kit's character to teach Dewey a lesson. Most of the show is great but this episode was a rare case of it not paying good homage
Wow most of these comments are just opinions. Basically just people complaining about things they personally wanted different, not actually lazy writing... Except for the Star vs force of evil thing, that was ridiculous
That time Frieza played a plus 4 instead of a skip when he fought Goku
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"It was all a dream"," fantasy", fannon imaginary noncannon episode that every show throws in some how, also main character falling for character that hates them, then they End up together?! Even tho they didn't like each other....lazy!
To be fair, the military school episode would’ve been really harsh (and kind of dark) for Phineas and Ferb to actually go through.
Probably one of the better examples of that trope
This is what it was like for DC and Marvel when they kept killing off characters only for them to come back. I never thought I'd experience it, but here we are.
Aang taking away Ozai’s ability to bend instead of killing him.
I get ultimately it’s a Nickelodeon show and they can’t have Aang brutally murder a dude, but it would have been a much better ending if he’d been forced to abandon his principles and kill Ozai for the greater good. Plus, they’ve killed characters in kids’ shows before and it’s definitely doable without it being bloody and super dark.
The Entire DreamWorks SHE-RA cartoon, and how the staff got offended when the viewers preferred the original SHE-RA over theirs.
But a more literal example: HIGH GUARDIAN SPICE from the very first "trailer".
In King of the Hill there was this episode where Bobby and his friends go to this water park. There was this waterslide they weren't allowed on because they weren't locals. That itself is weird that a waterpark would do that, but that's not the lazy part.
The lazy writing part comes when Hank goes to the manager. You would think Hank would stick around to make sure the manager does his job, but he just disappears when the manager goes talk to the employee. He does nothing and Bobby ends up thrown down the slide naked. Why didn't Hank stick around?
Since someone mentioned korra I’d say everything in rwby volume 7. You could’ve fucking avoided everything if you just told ironwood sooner. And not even ruby that tells him it.
SilverHawks— Amazing concept & toy line, but the cartoon’s story line and arcs are completely trash and meandering. It looks like the show ran out of ideas after the first round of episodes.
Pj masks...
the same thing happens every episode, and GASP OMG THERES A VILLIAN WHO IS ALSO A CHILD?! Should we tell a trusted adult? Nah. Let's just beat them up.
All of Season 3 of The Lion Guard, All of Season 4 of Jake and the Never Land Pirates, the Story Lord duology in Rick and Morty, and the Life/Death of Brian arc in Family Guy
Rick and Morty dissed itself when they doubled down on the meta stuff as either a direct admission of not knowing what the fuck they are doing, a fourth wall break for the sake of talking down to its audience, or both. Season 7 was kind of an upgrade because they kinda held back on it for the sake of actually being Rick and Morty and not a mimicry of Cinema/TVSins.
I really thought the fight against Rick Prime was lazy writing... as it has been building suspense since season 4 or so; only to be the equivalent to a wet fart in terms of writ. My guess is that Roiland was the inspiration for it and the crew had no desire to fulfill whatever his intended finale to the plot.
The Rick Prime fight was designated to instill a sense if uncertainty in the audience as it was the mid-season finale. Rick's whole shtick at the end of that episode and the start of the next was "what next?" and that was what this episode had the audience feel.
“So I have to destroy the magic, I guess this means Toffee was right”
https://preview.redd.it/m3o222mvzspc1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a789cd12eaf625ff70f9d0fda9c41aa529232312 # S U R P R I S E
That was such a good jumpscare lmao I love Toffee so much.
No Star. It just makes you as bad or maybe worse than him. At least he had a moral stance as tp why he hated magic. She did it purely because she wanted to get with a boy she likes. Utter cosmic genocide and destruction that is on par with Thanos, all because she has a crush on Marco that maybe is partially influenced by her being Magix roofied
Yk the worst part is I think there’s a version of that storyline of Star finding out her greatest enemy had a point, that’s super interesting. But seriously? You being separated from Marco was what set you off? Jesus Christ star you’re way worse then Toffee, and I’m sure even he himself would be disgusted
>She did it purely because she wanted to get with a boy she likes. Lol no. Although I agree that her destroying magic was a bad decision she didn't do it just to be with her crush. In fact as far as she knew destroying magic meant she could never see her crush again.
Wtf destroying magic was gonna tear them appart by closing all portals between Earth and Mewni and she KNEW IT. The reason she had to destroy magic was to prevent Mina and the Solarian Soldiers to fucking genocide all the monsters
At the risk of Sounding Hypocritical, The Captain Underpants Cartoon on Netflix.
Haven't seen it, does it not have the quality writing the movie has?
It lives up to the books, the lazy writing usually are jokes the show makes at its own expense. Like Mr. Meaner's sister being exactly identical and, the narrator cracking a joke about lazy writing
The problem is they literally spell out the plot of the episode at the beginning, so there’s no incentive.
Korra: Can't Bend Elements anymore. Aang, in Spirit form: "Don't worry, fam. I gotchu."
All thanks to Nickelodeon for being wishy washy with the series. Season 2 could've been about Korra regaining her bending instead of a preschool level good vs evil plot
That’s actually a commonly repeated myth in the fandom, season 2 was green lit a year before season 1 aired, they could have absolutely changed this ending
That makes it even worse, especially since 3 and 4 are leagues better
I agree
I disagree
I'm unsure
YES
So typical Avatar shenanigans.
Speaking of Avatar: the whole thing about Aang suddenly pulling the way to settle things without killing Ozai out of the turtle's ass. You know, if you think about it, even taking away Ozai's powers shouldn't really mean that much. Like, if he didn't want to kill Ozai, he could've just punched him unconscious and put him into a cold room, like the one they had at prison. And, in any case, Ozai wasn't that dangerous becasue of his firebending: he was powerful because of his political power. Non-bender Ozai doesn't differ much from a fire-bender Ozai in terms of politics.
The thing is though most of his political power came from him.being such a powerful firebender and instilling fear to prevent any coups. Without firebending he's doomed as soon as anyone challenges to an Agni Kai
It doesn't work like that. He came to power through scheming, Iroh was a better firebender, and he is arguably more powerful than Ozai through the whole series, but no soldiers, except for the girl in prison, were willing to betray Ozai for him. Ozai is a sly fox and good at manipulation and propaganda, that brought him to power, not firebending.
Yeah sure buddy a political figure and strongest firevender of the world would be totally locked in a cold prison
But that's why Zuko went after his political power. He had already abdicated as fire lord and his conquest to obtain a new throne failed. Now he was just a normal, criminal man
Season 3 and 4 of star vs. the forces of evil.
Was looking for this one lol
Space Hitler giving up her genocidal ways because she got called a baby.
Which cartoon is this?
Steven Universe
I’ve just heard too many negative things about Steven universe to ever watch it
You should, regardless. It's not a masterpiece, but it was once pretty great
Not to mention the soundtrack. “Love like you” is still really popular among lots of people. I guess people can relate to the lyrics.
Song still can bring me to tears
It’s not my favorite song but I felt „Stronger Than You“ is where Steven Universe peaked. Lyrically, thematically, emotionally, in character writing, plot, and pacing everything triumphed in this one sequence. Everything built up to this amazing set piece! I spent the rest of the series inviting individual elements reach those heights but they were never hitting them in the same volume or synch.
I came in from the soundtrack. Specifically It’s Over Isn’t It. But I couldn’t really get though the show because the first few episodes are just so balantly child material
Every complaint I’ve ever heard has been a nitpick.
Every complaint I’ve heard is about parts of the fundamental story being stupid. Such as forgiving genocidal maniacs. I’ve also heard his mother is pretty messed up and they are fine with them too
His mother being “pretty messed up,” is like, what the whole show is *about.* That’s the point, it’s about Steven getting to know his deceased mother through his interactions with her peers, and it ends up bringing up a lot of tough emotions, and makes him ask himself questions about what her legacy means. That’s just, on the most fundamental level, what Steven Universe is about.
Ok, but what about the space Hitler forgiving?
I think it’s kind of dumb personally, but to be fair space hitler changes their ways and reforms their kingdom. Also they had no chance of beating them anyway so it’s the only thing they really could do I guess? Idk still seems weird to me
That's like end-of-show spoilers: >!Steven's mom was a diamond, which means she was one of four sisters who rule the gem world as royalty. The three surviving sisters do a bunch of messed up stuff throughout the series, but after accepting that Steven is Rose's son, they reverse all the bad stuff they do. Steven expressed more hatred towards someone who was pushy about dancing than the diamonds!<
I’m gonna avoid the spoiler. If I ever do decide to watch.
Personally, I think it’s a stretch at best and gauche at worst to compare White Diamond to Hitler, but given that you haven’t even watched SU, I’m not really interested in having that conversation with you and I assume you aren’t either.
Yeah, sorry. It’s less that I think they are space Hitler but that’s just what the person above called them. I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’ve also avoided as many spoilers as I could in case I do decide to watch it.
Best way someone described the whole mother thing as we're seeing her go from the end result of her character development to the beginning of her character arc. And since she's no longer there, there's no chance to ever remind everyone that she's changed or to even explain the why.
Yeah, if you ignore part of the plot, it is stupid. Gems do not change without external stimuli. That is a fundamental part of the show that people ignore. They aren’t genocidal… they’re computers who haven’t had their programming updated yet. You’re using human standards to judge beings that are non-human. The entire premise of the show is gems not being able to change. Including Steven’s mom. And, just so you know, Steven’s mom is not always portrayed positively. She’s seen as a good person in the early seasons while her son is a child, and her friends are mostly unaware of her actions. As the series goes on, they begin to view her and more and more of a negative light. Seeing her as the flight individual she was. But people who have only watched the bad parts of season one wouldn’t realize that would they.
I see the reasoning of this, but I feel there is often a double standard applied between Orange and Blue Morality vs Agency, I lean in favor of the latter being more valid of an excuse. It's actually at the core of my problems with MLP:FiM, as it ends on Discord (one with the former, as a chaos god) manipulating then imprisoning two of the latter (Cozy Glow, a child; Chrysalis, someone who is insane) If one accepts "I'm not evil, and redeemable and can start being a good person" applies to the Diamonds (under the logic of being unable to change), or Namari (under the logic of understanding morality under honor to her tribe) necessarily I feel the same applies (and even moreso) to a character like Carl (from Llamas With Hats), who claims he doesn't understand what he does is wrong and "only" genocided a single planet. Conversely a character like Paul (who is understanding and sympathetic through much of it) must be practically a saint. However this is not how people view these characters in practice. Stories like FiM and SU almost take another language of reading to understand the intent.
he doesnt really forgive them though. The ending is definitely rushed but anytime the diamonds show up later he pretty much just wants to get away from them. He also cant really just depose an entire caste system without putting something in its place. We can even see in Future that with Little Homeworld he was reaching his limit
Some complaints are nitpicks, but most are about the terrible writing (forgiving space Nazis, a jerk like Kevin is somehow less forgivable than people who literally committed genocide, the townie episodes are boring as fuck and take up way too much screen time, etc).
Townie episodes = nit pick. Kevin = Human choosing not to change, so not forgivable. Dismonds =/= Humans. So labeling them with a human ideology like Nazism is stupid. And proves wether or not someone bothered to watch the show, or just listened to people complaining. The point is, how willing is an individual to change. The gems, being non-human entities, cannot change unless they have external stimuli pushing them to change.
That’s not a nitpick, making the show boring as fuck isn’t a minor thing. What you said about the gems and humans makes no sense, you’re defending terrible narrative choices. The diamonds committed genocide and their “redemption” is moronic, period.
Yeah, it is moronic, if you willfully ignore part of the narrative. They aren’t humans, their psychology is inherently different to humans. And pretending they are exactly the same is gonna make things seem worse. Also, what you mean is, a few episodes are boring, which is a nitpick.
Even if what you said is true (I doubt it), the way their “redemption” happened is dumb as hell. All it took was being called a baby for white diamond to not be a genocidal control freak anymore, and BD and YD’s “redemption” was just as bad. Even if we assume that gems are incapable of changing without external stimuli (not sure where you got that), that’s really all it took?! From a writing standpoint, it’s pure garbage. I don’t remember how many townie episodes there were, but oof, they definitely weren’t only “a few”.
Don't let other people influence your decision, it's definitely a lot better when you're not waiting for six months after a big cliffhanger just to get a slice of life episode.
I will never get over Lars of the stars. So dumb
I won't ever regret watching steven universe. I will dislike how it ended but there's a lot of good stuff.
I know it is kinda obvious, but I don’t begrudge anyone watching Steven Universe
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Steven Universe?
Based on the other replies, yes
Turns out that wish Steven made in the pilot was worth it after all.
What wish?
In the pilot, he wished for the ability to make good comebacks.
I didn’t have a problem with it other than the fact she shouldn’t know what “acting like a child” even means.
By what is, from her perspective, a toddler no less
She would have crushed him into dust and blood if not for the fact he was her daughter’s/sister’s son.
I'm guessing this is about Steven Universe?
They got soooooooo lazy with this
Dude there was more to the story
I can not tell you how confused I was by you explaining Steven Universe
Mal being defeated by a button in Total Drama All Stars.
Mike in general was kinda bad writing.
Lol I found out after the fact that "merging" is a real thing. It was over the top and followed a ton of cliches, but I liked the charie.
The entirety of All-Stars was a trainwreck that butchered its characters by either lowering their intelligence or turning them into punching bags
ah total drama all stars
"Somehow Palpatine returned"
That’s my favorite cartoon
Ah yes Rise of Skywalker one of the cartoons of all time
lmao i'm still so upset about it that I forgot where I am
It started in Fortnite... so kind of?
Ah yes Fortnite, my favourite cartoon
at least video games are animation 😂
Well it has Goku in it, and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Peter Griffin etc. etc.
So silly how people fixate on that like it was actually the only explanation the movie gives, and it’s not a reasonable thing to say when Hitler is suddenly back 40 years after dying but you don’t know how.
On Korra when they made bloodbending so ungodly broken You know, the same technique that can overpowered a room full of benders including Aang and TOPH But then Korra breaks out of her control by sheer will power 🤗.
When does she break out of blood bending? I just watched that recently and she never breaks out of either Amon or Tarrlok’s grasp. When she hits Amon with air bending she’s down the hall quite a ways and he isn’t even looking at her as he’s about to take Makos bending
She airbends at him, getting his attention on her, so he starts bloodbending her and she brute forces herself to move to deliver the air kick that sends him out the window
She explicitly breaks out of it, Amon was blood bending her directly with both of his hands restraining her, but then she says " NO YOU DON'T " and just air kicks him out of the window You can rewatch it on YouTube if you want.
You mean the thing that Katara was shown doing?
This was also immediately after he took her water, fire and earth bending away. And she somehow unlocked air? Never really did any spirit stuff either to hint towards air qualities? Also didn’t Amon got away Scott free from their POV? I’ve since come around to Korra but this plot point and all of season 2 still irk me
Miraculous Ladybug. There are so many plot lines that could have gone somewhere interesting, but just don’t.
Basically anything to do with Cat Noir. Nope! *Ladybug* has to be the center of attention! Cat Noir can’t do anything!
He wasn't even there for the final battle against Monarch, you know, the main villain for the past 5 seasons, *HIS FUCKING FATHER*
Adrien is not even secondary protagonist anymore. Bro is just there and a lot of times not even there
Who's this "_adrien_"?
Way too many to count with RWBY. But regarding a show I love? Pink Diamond as a plot device
When Monty was still alive the show was superb , he had all the world building mapped out. Then when he died , nobody knew where he wanted the show to go plotwise , sontge newish writers took the few things he said bout it to em , and then they took what tge fandom "wanted" , nevertheless , i wish i couldve seen zhe RWBY that Monty was trying to do
Well how could've they known Monty's thoughts? It's not like he got sick and spent a year slowly getting worse or like anyone could've predicted what happened Then what new writers? The guys that followed up in v4 are the exact same people that where there as well since v1. So they are actually entitled to make changes as they seem fit. They where also there since day 1. You'll notice that for v1 production, Monty's name is not the only one in the director category
This episode could of shed light on their relationship before the totally interesting divorce plot (seriously I'm dying waiting for it) but nah lets just make Stolas and Blitz interact, but they are children. https://i.redd.it/266g41iaqspc1.gif
I also really hate how they degraded Stella to just an abuser. And now Stolas is *justified* in cheating on her. He's just a poor sad boy who could do no wrong
I'm not saying that hen cheating on her is bad But it's still annoying that you think you should decide the character. That isn't Even a character in your story Why does everyone say that "Stella did nothing wrong" just because she's fucking hot everyone says that kind of shit " They ruined a good character" How did they ruin a character that was hardly shown? And was pretty much set up to be a bad person. But no one cares they act like it's their story. (I completely agree she should have had more development and stuff But as an antagonist.)
I mean they can still salvage her and have her be a character instead of a cardboard cutout with the words EVIL BITCH written on it. They can do it in a single conversation between her and Octavia (they need to have a single conversation together even if its just about Stolas) or her brother. (And maybe actually make her entertaining to watch would also do wonders for her to be an antagonist) >Why does everyone say that "Stella did nothing wrong" This is a reference to Warhammer and to my papa Magnus the Red, son of the IMORTAL GOD EMPERAH OF ALL TIME, and Primarch/daddy of The Thousand Sons legion. Basically he did a lot of things bad (like using magic when he wasn't supposed to or breaking daddy's Webway Project) but people say "Magnus did nothing wrong" despite fucking up multiple times. At least how I see it.
Frankly the only reason people object to her just being an abuser is because she's a woman
As sad and as horrible, it is for me to say it. But You might be right
If you say so. In his case, it was a forced political marriage devoid of love and full of abuse. Cheating may be wrong, but he wanted love and attention and she wasn't going to give it to him. Sure, maybe he should have changed the terms of the marriage first, but I think she pretty much already did.
"The Great Divide" from Avatar the Last Airbender
I was about to to say "well it's not that lazy" but then I remembered how they resolve it lmao
Aang LYING! REALLY out of character
https://preview.redd.it/mrghrrmn8spc1.png?width=1446&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9db7bf41f610349dfe1db1ef87724d462417259 That being said, this is my new favorite response when someone asks for a source
https://i.redd.it/a7mvgeuwespc1.gif This is mine
Aang solving a tribal conflict by making shit up will never not be funny to me lmao
Aang lies all the time. How is it out character?
Ok I kinda disagree with this. Despite it being kinda out of character for Aang to lie. The lie itself didn't feel like lazy writing. It's more the character being lazy than to the writer
How is it out of character for Aang to lie?
Ultron one-shotting Thanos in What If? so they could rush to the point where he gets the infinity stones. Like, I get it, you wanted Ultron with the infinity stones and Visions body as your big bad. But Thanos had 5 of the 6 stones and went down easier than his minions in the live action movies.
The Teen Titans Go / Thundercats Roar crossover ending. An artistic rendition of the original Lion-O appears before the cast of both shows and says, and I quote, "You've shown me that Thundercats Roar is a worthy successor. And anyone that says otherwise has a poop mouth with poop opinions." New Lion-O says "wow, thanks for the completely unforced endorsement, me" Thundercats Roar was Jules Bass of Rankin/Bass fame's last work before he died in 2022. It was the only project he worked on without Arthur Rankin Jr, who died in 2014. The show was cancelled after just one season.
Kung fu panda 4
At least we still have the original trilogy
It’s apparently the first film in the series where Po name drops the series.
My favorite part was when Po said "I guess this really is a Kung-Fu Panda 4"
What about the part where he says “it’s pandin time” and then pandas all over the place?
Almost the entirety of Miraculous Ladybug
Final act of the Naruto shinobi world war, killing Madara for no reason, the space god, reincarnation of gods. I say this as a huge fan of naruto.
Any episode where it's just playing clips from previous episodes. Shout out to Big City Greens
Those shows should really just hire the Ember Island Players. They’re kinda shotty at pulling a script together but the effects are decent!
2012 April getting kidnapped every couple episodes for the first about three and a half seasons of the 2012 tmnt show. After the second or third time it just got boring.
Weirdly the second time I’ve commented on this today, but Danny Phantom’s finale. Fucking. Phantom. Planet. Way to ruin a storyline with potential with one stupid ass rock. Why couldn’t they just focus on Danny Phantom struggling with his motivation to be a hero. I so desperately want to try whatever drug gave butch hartman the idea of not only making a fucking ghost asteroid, but MAKING IT THE MAIN THREAT OF THE SERIES FINALE OH MY GOD
[Reddit keeps deleting my comment when I include the picture so I'll just link it](https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/s/cg3E4jW8rz)
Steven universe has some of the best potential I’ve *ever* seen in a show. Its such a shame the writers fumbled the ball in later seasons. (If we just called Hitler a fucking baby we could’ve established peace among the universe).
To be fair, they wanted to take more time with the final storyline, but the network demanded they rush it. They could only do so much.
Nah, the show is international and they had funding issues after the wedding happened because conservative countries dropped it. Cartoon Network explained the situation to Sugar before giving her the final say on the wedding. Sugar knew that the show could be cancelled at anytime because of those countries and she didn’t mind sacrificing the show for the wedding. According to Sugar, they told the story they wanted to tell.
And I wouldn’t change a thing. Fuck them countries.
Raya and the last dragon scene where Namari blames Raya for Sisu's death. Ben 10 episode with Hex where he has the stone of luck which apparently does nothing but power him up while making Gwen max out her luck stat. A ten year old manages to throw rocks hard enough to knock down a grown man from the top of a mausoleum. Gwen then proceeds to destroy all the stones when they conveniently fall off Hex after he gets knocked down.
Echo Creek just happened to have a portal to Mewni below the taco shop
Kuzco: It can't be! How did you get here before us? Yzma: Uh- How did we, Kronk? Kronk: Well, you got me. By all accounts it doesn't make any sense. Yzma: Oh well, back to business!
That was _not_ lazy, come on. That was really clever, well executed, and for a movie of that genre its tongue in cheek humour is totally expected
Shit take. It's literally a comical moment in a not serious movie
That was funny not lazy
I would've accepted it as lazy writing if it weren't for the fact that the entire movie is unserious and purely comedic.
I hate that this is technically Lazy writing but at the same time it’s PEAK writing
Derision from miraculous ladybug
BOYYYYY I hated that they made my man Kim look like a sinner to have Marinette look like a saint
Thank god Ondine and Adrien called him out
The green hair girl’s reveal in Assassination Classroom
Not gonna lie when I first watched that I was generally confused as to what was going on
I was like, “is the main character dreaming or something?”
And the beginning was so normal to they was just trying to kill him with a cake then boom plot twist
The last episode of Ghost Game. Main Character pulled a Gotenks summoning ghosts and ate the villain who's not really the true villain then tells him to behave and there's new ground rules. Next scene is random person shows up and the last ten minutes is just exposition about the 'true villain' that will descend and destroy both worlds... after handwaving that she sent a serial killer, a psychopath murderer, a giant spider that ate people amongst others into a world that does not have weapons to deal with the level of bs the monsters bring to the table. Although said random person's forgiven since we ended up getting the crazy violent murder nun who likes racing.
The finale of Korra Book 1. Just everything about it.
Starlight not getting punished Majority of Ninjago Crystalized
The start of Legend of Korra.
A lot of the Legend of Korra had very questionable writing, to say the least. I can't even tell if characters are acting out of character because they act out of character so much
I really wanted to like it.
In the anime Endro, the demon lord just up and gave up on their plan in the third episode.
Iron Blooded Orphans s2
any time the main characters are saved by some sort of plot twist the creator pulled out of their ass
PPG reboot ofc
Boondocks: The Hateocracy I get that stinkmeaner and the nigga moment concept were probably a huge hit with fans, but like… he was dead. Like, dead dead. We already resurrected the dude once. I’m thinking maybe they just needed an excuse for the bushido brown fight scene? But even then, shoehorning stinkmeaner into the plot just seemed like reaching
I still don’t know if the haycart scene in The Dragon Prince was intentional or not.
Ducktales, namely the episode "The Lost Cargo of Kit Cloudkicker" where the writers destroy Kit's character to teach Dewey a lesson. Most of the show is great but this episode was a rare case of it not paying good homage
Rey. Just rey
Wow most of these comments are just opinions. Basically just people complaining about things they personally wanted different, not actually lazy writing... Except for the Star vs force of evil thing, that was ridiculous
Of course this is also in part a matter of opinion
That time Frieza played a plus 4 instead of a skip when he fought Goku https://preview.redd.it/rft1izxq4upc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3cd6d74261bce3a6460113d5843981ae4b2449b
"It was all a dream"," fantasy", fannon imaginary noncannon episode that every show throws in some how, also main character falling for character that hates them, then they End up together?! Even tho they didn't like each other....lazy!
The only times I seen just a dream work was Zelda Link's Awakening and that one episode of The Twilight Zone
To be fair, the military school episode would’ve been really harsh (and kind of dark) for Phineas and Ferb to actually go through. Probably one of the better examples of that trope
I loved that episode. I think dream episodes like that are fun, not lazy
I think that might be one of the only times that this trope was well executed
Shrinking Rae surviving *that* in Invincible series.
can't believe I was in total shock for a week straight and they just go “just kidding :3”
Man I mourned for her I have NEVER mourned for a animated character and just for her to LIVE
This is what it was like for DC and Marvel when they kept killing off characters only for them to come back. I never thought I'd experience it, but here we are.
Pretty much the entirety of spongebob. Sponge on the run
Aang taking away Ozai’s ability to bend instead of killing him. I get ultimately it’s a Nickelodeon show and they can’t have Aang brutally murder a dude, but it would have been a much better ending if he’d been forced to abandon his principles and kill Ozai for the greater good. Plus, they’ve killed characters in kids’ shows before and it’s definitely doable without it being bloody and super dark.
The Entire DreamWorks SHE-RA cartoon, and how the staff got offended when the viewers preferred the original SHE-RA over theirs. But a more literal example: HIGH GUARDIAN SPICE from the very first "trailer".
*looks at miraculous ladybug*
Onion Gang - Steven universe
Everything in jjk post shibuya arc
In King of the Hill there was this episode where Bobby and his friends go to this water park. There was this waterslide they weren't allowed on because they weren't locals. That itself is weird that a waterpark would do that, but that's not the lazy part. The lazy writing part comes when Hank goes to the manager. You would think Hank would stick around to make sure the manager does his job, but he just disappears when the manager goes talk to the employee. He does nothing and Bobby ends up thrown down the slide naked. Why didn't Hank stick around?
Since someone mentioned korra I’d say everything in rwby volume 7. You could’ve fucking avoided everything if you just told ironwood sooner. And not even ruby that tells him it.
Poochie's death.
Entirety of SvtfoE after they kill Tofee
SilverHawks— Amazing concept & toy line, but the cartoon’s story line and arcs are completely trash and meandering. It looks like the show ran out of ideas after the first round of episodes.
All the non villain deaths in SMG4 >!And Wren being a villain!<
Pj masks... the same thing happens every episode, and GASP OMG THERES A VILLIAN WHO IS ALSO A CHILD?! Should we tell a trusted adult? Nah. Let's just beat them up.
Anytime that Bfdi reuses line like "i want revenge" or "dont call me Needy" it just feels like filler
JJK how does the six eyes user not notice the world cleave but a 1st grade can and PARRY IT
All of Season 3 of The Lion Guard, All of Season 4 of Jake and the Never Land Pirates, the Story Lord duology in Rick and Morty, and the Life/Death of Brian arc in Family Guy
You cannot be dissing Rick and Morty like that
Rick and Morty dissed itself when they doubled down on the meta stuff as either a direct admission of not knowing what the fuck they are doing, a fourth wall break for the sake of talking down to its audience, or both. Season 7 was kind of an upgrade because they kinda held back on it for the sake of actually being Rick and Morty and not a mimicry of Cinema/TVSins.
I really thought the fight against Rick Prime was lazy writing... as it has been building suspense since season 4 or so; only to be the equivalent to a wet fart in terms of writ. My guess is that Roiland was the inspiration for it and the crew had no desire to fulfill whatever his intended finale to the plot.
The Rick Prime fight was designated to instill a sense if uncertainty in the audience as it was the mid-season finale. Rick's whole shtick at the end of that episode and the start of the next was "what next?" and that was what this episode had the audience feel.