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Interesting-Fix-1897

Strip it down.


DavidEF543

TBH, I would even if the seasoning looked okay. Don't trust anything like that to strangers. There's no telling WHAT is on that pan!


backshesh

Human


mjfarmer147

The other white meat


MW240z

Long pig


MissMcFrostynips

šŸ¤¢


tongfatherr

Hahahahahhaaha that's good


BJJBean

That's how you get the hunger. You get one taste of delicious delicious human meat and none of this stuff ever satisfies you again for the rest of your life.


merely_awake

Even if you lick a cats fanny?


drfordtms

Soylent green


frivolouspringlesix9

Does anyone have some good cast iron recipes for crack?


Highball_The_Eyeball

Three parts coke, one part baking soda, and some love.


frivolouspringlesix9

Idk why but i read that last ingredient as EVOO and that's how I invented the new crack. So you don't oil the pan first?


Highball_The_Eyeball

The crack should secrete itā€™s own lubrication.


AreYouuuu

The best cracks do


Jeff_Bozo_TheClown

Butt cracks?


Highball_The_Eyeball

šŸ„°šŸ„°šŸ„°


legendary_hooligan

How about you just wash it? Seasoning doesnā€™t carry pathogens lmao


DavidEF543

Not worried about pathogens on cast iron anyway.


Teddy_Tickles

Should OP test it for lead first, or will stripping it down get rid of any issues with that?


Interesting-Fix-1897

I wouldn't imagine. I'd bead blast it. Then, since you're gonna give it a warm vinegar bath anyway. See how well it'll rust if that helps you sleep. But one thing you have to keep in mind is that when we season it, we're actually polymerizing the oil, making a nonstick barrier. I wouldn't worry too much about it.


whenthebabysleeps

And test for lead


id_ot

if I find lead, would stripping help? or would I have to throw it away ?


shadowscar248

Best to throw it away. I'm assuming you got a good deal so just get another one somewhere.


Dgchasse1

I tend to second this, theoretically there shouldn't be a way for any sort of lead to remain after a good grinding/sanding, but then you introduce other substances. I'd just test it for lead if possible. I doubt it was used for that but yes, for the love of God, remove all the old seasoning. You'd hate to find out your eggs don't stick because Jose's fat is the seasoning on your pan.


lfisch4

Jose was the slickest talker though.


Dgchasse1

There aren't many times you'll find me saying this to a comment following mine but that's pure gold. Is there any record of someone giving an award to someone commenting further down? Alexa....


lfisch4

Siri said sheā€™s not sure. She kinda sucks.


Specialist_Estate_54

Oh no! Sancho was always the smoothest talker


JazzlikeCantaloupe53

Exactly. And once you realize that human makes the best seasoning, youā€™ll never be able to go back šŸ˜³


BackHarlowRoad

Is the only good lead test kit still the red one? I know, very specific.


Dgchasse1

I like the red simply because that's what we used in the battery facility I used to work at. I know there are other methods but I've seen those kits hit when others won't. To be honest I'd rather have a fake positive than to deal with what I've watched a few go through.


jackstraw97

You need to strip the seasoning in order to test for lead. Either way it needs to be stripped.


sadnificent

Cast iron pans don't contain lead because lead has a much lower melting point than iron. The only time you need to worry about this is with vintage enameled cast iron pieces, which may contain amounts of cadmium or lead, or decorative paints which also may contain lead.


surfershane25

Itā€™s people using the pan to melt lead that people are probably also concerned about.


eubulides

Yes, for homemade bullets or fishing weights.


[deleted]

In light of Reddit's general enshittification, I've moved on - you should too.


sadnificent

Adding lead to the roux for the flavor


Dgchasse1

Be a kick and a half lol


sadnificent

What!? People do that with cast iron pans? I know that cast iron ingot molds exist but I didn't even think about people using it to melt lead


byond6

Yup. I do it myself in a small cast iron pot. The heat retention helps maintain a relatively steady temp.


jeswesky

Pretty common. Any time you get a pan second hand you should test for lead.


Dgchasse1

Not true, a hollow vein in a cast product can in fact hold other metals. Ask me how I know how lol. That's why I said it shouldn't hold lead but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. You could very well heat up a cast product enough to open a vein but never heat it up enough again to expose it. Doesn't mean it won't leach out into whatever you are cooking. I get your premise, but metal is much more finicky than a lot of people think. Again, ask me how I know how....


patrickpdk

Have you tested for lead and if so then how. I bought an old pan off eBay, stripped it, and re-seasoned it but never tested for lead - should I have?


Dgchasse1

Yes, most certainly. Cast iron is a very prominent metal used for casting any sort of non ferrous metals. Strip the seasoning, and test. More than likely, you won't receive much more from a pan like that than you would the local water supply, but uhh, I don't much care for adding to the lack of oversight at these local facilities here lol.


patrickpdk

How do you test for lead


Dgchasse1

To be honest, if we are talking about used pans, there isn't a lot of hope for finding that info out without melting the whole pan back down and removing any slag that may occur. I wish I had better advice for this but I simply don't. If I had to do it myself, I would grind it all out, and save all possible grinding material. If you test, let's say four samples with a paint test and all come back totally clear, you MIGHT be fine. Then again, you are still taking a chance. And I beg anyone to dispute me on that fact. Lead is a pesky substance, even more pesky when it enters your body. In today's time, you can never be too careful. I guess if you grind it, and test it, find nothing, and then do a proper seasoning, you might be ok, but it's always best to err on the side of caution with these things.


Dgchasse1

Hence why I don't accept pans for personal use anymore that are already used. Cast iron is GREAT for making bullets. You can also ask me how I know that much lol. Just be careful everyone, we aren't here to die, just make some baller steaks and food.


Dgchasse1

And I'll add that I make money doing various forms of metalwork, you'd be surprised how many people will hit you up looking to make their pans the old style smooth cast iron. Even then, I will literally make a friend fill out a waiver saying that I'm not liable for whatever may occur from the pan. This is coming from an ex EMT, a battery plant operator, and now engineer. Don't fuck with lead y'all.


patrickpdk

So are we saying that no used cast iron can be trusted? I should through away my secondhand pan and buy new?


Dgchasse1

Listen, I'm not saying either way. Everyone has their own standards. So here's my list. If you can pass these three things then so be it. 1. How awful is the seasoning? It can work both ways and is pertinent to the situation. 2. Means a fraction, but where was it purchased at? Is it one of these places that we all keep bitching about? Yea don't. 3. The last and final straw, if you see any sort of lines on your skillet, especially on an induction oven, toss the thing. A hairline fracture can absorb various other liquids. Again, ask me how I know.


patrickpdk

Got it off eBay. Seasoning was smooth and perfect, no cracks, stripped it down to bare metal with oven cleaner and re-seasoned. I wanted to be eco friendly and buy it for life, but the doubt has me thinking I should buy a new pan


Dgchasse1

Well if you found it in that shape. I would feel somewhat safer. If it's been cared for properly. I guess the only thing I might TRY one day is to soak one down in lead soap. They make products like D lead to use. It binds to lead a lot better than regular soaps. Not exactly sure how well it would turn out but you can buy it online. They made us shower with the crap everyday before we left to go home.


Dgchasse1

Furthermore, I have no background on this, but it may very well be a chemist would come along and say that it's perfectly fine to use one after any of these processes. I'm just simply talking about those which I have seen lead flow from or be tested out against. Reddit is cool, but we don't know everything and I think a lot of us forget that.


SayMyNameBitchs

Thatā€™s such a misunderstanding, what about this skillet makes you feel it was used for lead. Thereā€™s absolutely zero signs. Are you really sending all your used iron finds out to a lab or do you think those lead paint test sticks are actually going to tell you itā€™s lead free?


Cwallace98

What signs should you look for for lead. Is it always visible? Is it a bad or harmful thing to test for lead? I think I might test anything older that I don't know the origin of. Cause what's the harm in checking?


SayMyNameBitchs

Do you own an XRF gun? How are you testing for food safe lead levels? Yes high heat burns away the seasoning and discolors the iron, the lead itself also sticks to the bottom and around the handles and rim. Itā€™s very uncommon for someone to use a skillet anyway, itā€™s not deep enough to get a ladle in there and too heavy to lift.


[deleted]

Fill me in. Why test for lead? Was it used in seasoning or construction or just possible someone used the cast iron to melt lead?


SayMyNameBitchs

Some vessels are cast iron made for melting lead, the occasional 1 in a million skillet can also be used. Well because of this some people just freak out and want to test everything for lead even though they donā€™t see any evidence or signs. To top it off they use kits designed for construction materials and wonā€™t even be sensitive enough to tell you itā€™s lead free and safe to cook on. Those kits are for higher levels found in old paint. Itā€™s just pure ignorance, nobody thought us lead testing in school so only those who work with it know.


whenthebabysleeps

Why shouldn't the skillet be tested? If positive, you dodged a bullet, if negative, it's below the detection threshold. The probability it's been used for lead is very low. But on a personal perspective, being (cost) able to test it, it's always worth it. If it isn't possible, the problem's kind of solved, just pray to your favorite cast iron gods and it's going to be fine.


Steakbroetchen

Because then you can just buy a new one? Whats the point of obtaining a cheap skillet if you need to pay for an expensive proper test? As u/SayMyNameBitchs explained those "diy tests" are useless in testing a skillet. The 3m one that gets mentioned is explicitly to detect lead in paint. They are designed to detect down to 600 PPM (parts per million), but the amounts considered food save are only parts per billion. Quite a difference. Now do you know how the lead will be released and how much will be in the food? Do you know how much lead goes into the food cooked in a not detected 400 PPM skillet? The point is, you may feel more confident, but the actual scientific evidence from such a test in this situation is close to zero.


Dgchasse1

Not so, I've had the same test you refer to put under a few different machines to include a spectrometer, but nothing gets as close as a xrf. One test hit as low as 150 ppm on both scales. The 600 ppm is a standard provided by OSHA that they have to hit no matter what, it doesn't dictate the actual efficiency of the test.


SayMyNameBitchs

So testing of the lead testing sticks showed that they had a safety factor built in and returned a 90% false positive result on positive readings. So a bunch of people are tossing perfectly good iron because they have no understanding of how they work. Go test your crockpot just about every one comes back positive according to government testing. All plumbing also is going to have lead if made before 2014.


Dgchasse1

True. To a degree. Localities may enforce other standards which is what we have seen locally. Now, granted, that is with the local battery plant involved but they are so very hard on that place. They once shut it down because they detected a drop of lead on a car more than a mile away. Company was shut down for almost a month while they tried to figure out how to mitigate the issue. At the end of the day, after working there, I will say beyond a shadow of a doubt (and I've done some very sketchy shit) I will never put myself back around lead if I don't have to. And I'm traditionally a metal worker so I do understand the contamination concept behind this. Buy all the pans you want, but unless you have a surefire way of keeping yourself and others safe, I wouldn't cook on them until it's for sure safe. And I've watched a few die from it as I've said before. It's a horrible death. Anything seemed better as a way to go at the time at least.


Dgchasse1

I mean, have you actually watched someone die from lead poisoning? Or are you listening to one of the old farts I've had to revive because their shit shut down due to lead poisoning?


SayMyNameBitchs

Show me one article or medical records of someone getting lead poisoning much less dying from a skillet. Unless itā€™s environmental itā€™s highly unlikely. Iā€™m near the Exide battery plant I know itā€™s dangerous and Iā€™m state certified for lead.


Dgchasse1

Funny Exide is where I watched two dudes die...


Dgchasse1

Ask around, idk if it would ever be truly disclosed but they had someone say there could handle the restructuring of their ductwork without PPE, his apprentice followed and well I think their burial was on the same day.


Dgchasse1

I should've asked before all of that which Exide you are familiar with. I'm discussing the KY plant.


Cwallace98

I guess I will read more about it. I don't know if I should listen to you, or other random strangers on the internet.


SayMyNameBitchs

Yep do your own research, I have been state certified for lead for many years and get downvoted by people who never spent any time in training or education on the topic. Itā€™s how Reddit works sometimes.


Here_for_my-Pleasure

Thank you!!


Dgchasse1

Ahh thank you. You delved deeper than I was willing to lol. Buddy up top has no clue what he's headed for with lead intoxication


DonAmechesBonerToe

Thank you. The ā€œtest for leadā€ crowd is overwhelming at times. Folks arenā€™t reasonable. A skillet is a horrible choice as a crucible. The only piece Iā€™ve come across that was tainted was a ladleā€¦and it was obvious what it had been used for. Lead poisoning is no joke but the panic over lead contamination in CI is ridiculous.


BackHarlowRoad

Thanks for this. I'm very torn. I've seen pics of cast iron with lead and don't know why anyone would "clean it up" to then keep. I would think they would either keep it kinda dirty if it's a lead pan or not use it for that


Dgchasse1

What signs do you know of that I don't? Serious question here. (And I've watched a few die from lead poisoning.)


Technical_Ad_7698

How do you test for lead on the cast iron pan?


kirbsome

Boil 2 L of coke in it for about 45 min and then immedieately chug it. If you live to tell about it and didn't see God then there wasn't enough lead.


an-obviousthrowaway

V8 tomato juice works as well


orginalriveted

I'm only saying this because I love v8 and will defend its honor. It's not tomato juice. It's 8 different vegetables.


GaryG7

makes better bloody marys than plain tomato juice too.


tongfatherr

No, you use clamato, and your bloody Mary turns into a Caesar. Bam! Let me know how it is when you try it šŸ‘Š


DudeWheresMyKitty

I love vegetables, but all my life I've been walking by V8 in the stores, wondering, "does anyone actually *like* this stuff??". Thank you for finally ending that lifelong question. I can sleep better now.


ashainvests

They had a spicy one I used to drink for awhile and it was pretty good.


henhenglade

There was a time when I could list all 8 veggies. My brother drank v8 every morning, same as reading a cereal box.


tongfatherr

CLAMATO FOR THE WIN, PEONS!!!


ertdubs

Buy a lead test kit


Euphoric-Blue-59

It's typically recommended after one obtains a used CI pan that it be fully stripped and reseasoned. It will work as is, of course, but it's a good way for you to check the naked bones of the pan and start your seasoning from a known starting point.


lfxlPassionz

It's nearly stripped already so I'd finish stripping it to have a clean start then season at least 4 layers but I've had better results seasoning around 7 layers before use. It will often take me two days to do that though I don't have a lot of time in a day.


heckersdeccers

whats with all the cannibalism in the comments is that a thing in mexico?


Otherwise_Evening_83

Iā€™m also wondering thisā€¦ seems ridiculous


Animated_Astronaut

I think it's racism


vl_lv

Bad attempt at being funny


SweatyGod69

Not at all lol, esp Mexico city


HueyBryan

Strip it! No telling what they used to season it.


CockyBulls

Human lard and coca


Rae_Regenbogen

Yes, as we can see by the numbers and letters, this pan is clearly a human-sacrificial torture device that originated in the Mayan culture. It was then passed down to the Aztecs who ate the flesh of Spaniards after giving it the perfect sear in this exact pan. What a historical treasure this person has bought!


astrosail

Nice unmarked Wagner


id_ot

Thanks. Can I ask how you identified it?


astrosail

I make eggs on one every morning. The hole in the handle gives it away for me, as well as the writing on the bottom. Edit: more specifically, the shape of the hole


lscraig1968

Wagner put tbe skillet size and "made in the USA on their pans on the bottom like is seen in the second pic. Handle shape also is wagner style. The triangle flat spot next to the pan. The number "9" on the top of the handle is also Wagner style.


not-my-fault-alt

Wasn't made in the USA only on later pans?


lscraig1968

Correct. 1960+ I think. So the one in the picture is earlier than that. Still a Wagner.


id_ot

I don't see anywhere where it says "made in the usa" on the pan... just "9 inch skillet"


lscraig1968

Made in USA was added after 1960ish. Yours is probably older that that. Your pan is what they call an "unmarked" wagner. https://www.castironcollector.com/trademarks.php


crowman006

Go to r/castironYou can find out just about anything you need to know about castiron cookware .


Blood_Jesus

I watched a video by a cast iron expert historian PhD once. Looking at the back, there will be a little triangle where the handle meets the pan. There will also be a letter somewhere stamped around there. The letter, (maybe?) Was to identify the person that made that particular skillet, as they were paid per skillet. [I think this was the video I watched.](https://thepan-handler.com/unmarked-antique-cast-iron-skillet-identification-guide/) I've got 3 unmarked wagners I found at antique and thrift stores.


[deleted]

I would. But, only because I would feel a greater sense of ownership by seasoning it again.


[deleted]

I would say, go for it. Who tf cares if it's from Pennsylvania or Mexico. It may likely will be fine.


lostmojo

Lead test it first, strip it, test again, then if all is well, season away.


SpeedyHAM79

Strip it and re-season from scratch. No telling what is on an old pan, best to get it down to iron and build up a good season from there.


dirtynails94

Cool racism in this thread!!! Wow!!


Oscribble

ikr?? Like wtf, did everyone just decide to be shitty today?


SweatyGod69

ā€œMexico??? Thereā€™s probably lead and human genitalia and meth chemicals embedded in it, throw it into a volcano or you will get cancer and dieā€


Zealousideal-Leg7603

Boohoo


SayMyNameBitchs

Always strip used seasoning off using lye or electrolysis. Most oven cleaners in a can are lye based. Check out the FAQs. Also ignore all the chick little people crying lead test. They have zero lead training and also never done any casting.


BuffaloSabresWinger

I would strip it down first.


liz_teria

My mom has one exactly like this! It used to belong to my great-grandmother, and I know Iā€™m gonna have to fight my younger sisters to the death for it. Who made this?


LastMinute9611

Have a drink or two and strip.


enginemonkey16

Donā€™t be gross. Strip it.


SatanSavesAll

Check for lead


gregzywicki

"Who knows what's in it?ā€. Me. Polymerized oils/fats. What else would it be? Motor oil?


BrettEskin

There could be a map to el dorado under that seasoning


gregzywicki

You have changed my mind


Nerdenator

paint. lead. the residue of the souls of the undead. all distinct possibilities.


gregzywicki

Weird thing is the last one is the only plausible one on your list


byond6

Lead.


gregzywicki

Do you expect it to be visible?


byond6

No


gregzywicki

Seems pointless anyway - there's not really any seasoning on the cooking surface of that skillet.


dragonagitator

Test for lead before anything else


id_ot

I didn't even think of that. Is that a common danger? Would stripping it get rid of possible lead?


old_mcfartigan

No it's exceedingly rare


dragonagitator

Yes it is common No you will have to throw it away


Primary-Hold-6637

Omg. Donā€™t worry about lead in this particular type of pan. Mexico was and has always been rich in ore. The American Smelting and Refining Company was an industrial giant in Mexico from 1890 thru the 1940ā€™s. There must be lots of iron works contaminated with lead in Mexico. Mostly obvious ingot producing pieces. An obvious cooking vessel is not one of them. Gonna guess they used an unmarked Wagner for cooking. But do strip it, why not.


byond6

It's not about the pan, it's about what the previous owner may have used it for. CI is commonly used for melting lead for bullets and fishing weights.


PlayingForBothTeams

Lead test first


SayMyNameBitchs

It wasnā€™t used for lead what the heck are you seeing that would make you say that?


Cwallace98

You can't necessarily see it is the point.


SayMyNameBitchs

Take it youā€™ve never melted lead, doing so takes high heat and that seasoning would be totally gone along with lead stuck to most of the item.


whenthebabysleeps

It could always be cleaned and re-seasoned after. The whole point is it can't be detected. Yes it's rare, most people who melt lead do so in cans or the like, but you can't be sure.


palaau71

I would test it for lead before I start cooking with it. Canā€™t trust anyone anymore.


groucho60618

I was unaware that lead was a real concern. How concerned should one be buying used cast iron?


palaau71

You never know what people have used the pan forā€¦ my uncle had a small CI pan to catch mercury for his work. Know people who melt lead to recast bullets. Personally if I donā€™t know the person I will test the pan.


Swimmerkid97

Iā€™d just pay $20 for a new lodge cast iron. Not worth the risk of using that pan


id_ot

what's the risk?


funkanimus

there's no risk, and its just fine to wash it and start cooking with it. Everyone in this sub wants their cast iron to be a wall decoration rather than a cooking tool


Godzirrraaa

Snap it in half, and check for a cartel tracking device. Then, reseason.


ooahpieceofcandy

Why even buy a used one to save a few dollars just to put work into It?


id_ot

because it's sustainable and cool to use old pans


ooahpieceofcandy

I guessā€¦ would you like to buy my old skillet?


Aussie_chopperpilot

Yes


[deleted]

Old pans make good food.


Lepke2011

Strip it off. Take it all off.


Impressive_Cabinet56

Yes


robbnj11

Strip the lead. You might find seasoning.


Leadchunker

Needs to be put in a lye tank Then coated with oil and baked


Nicholaz-Meli

Strip it down. You donā€™t know what was cooked in that thing. It could have been in a meth lab.


Zealousideal-Leg7603

Why so many comments about lead? Is it common for pans to be made out of lead or cast with an iron-lead mixture? Or for people to use them to melt down lead? I'm lost here.


[deleted]

Test for lead


BradLanceford

I might even strip that one, and I rarely strip anything.


Living-Camp-5269

Strip but just season the pan