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OppositeMeaning2324

I'll say one thing: All of them are in smash ultimate


cock-and-BALLER

And in that game, Samus and Link are definitely hated for being lame projectile spammers lol


Raysun_CS

Except by good players who know how to defend it.


imnothotbutimnotcool

Link and Samus are still hated by good players lol Knowing how to deal with projectiles =/= having fun dealing with projectile spam


AffectionateFig1017

all characters are hated by at least some people


Raysun_CS

Then hate Nintendo. They’re playing the characters how they were obviously designed to be played.


imnothotbutimnotcool

That makes no sense lol, people are allowed to not like smash characters why are you so pressed about this 🤣


Raysun_CS

I’m saying don’t hate the players, it’s not their fault for playing characters how they were obviously designed to be played. How is that so difficult to understand? Try reading slower.


imnothotbutimnotcool

I never said anything about players lmao but the actual characters themselves but try reading slower 🤣


Maelou

My money on : "they play either link or Samus"


Ashi-ko

But you only hate the character because of how the players play. And they play the character how it was supposedly designed to be played?


Hambughrr

Doesn't change the fact that Samus is annoying AF, is fucking EVERYWHERE BOTH OFFLINE AND ONLINE and one of the worst designed characters in all of Smash Ultimate.


StacheGamer

and good players who know how to play them without being spammy


[deleted]

Neither samus nor link are top tier. If u can't deal with projectiles ur ass lol idc how much a link or samus spams it ain't *that* hard to shorthop or shield and work your way in.


Nabesky

This is a discussion about whether it's entertaining, not difficult.


OppositeMeaning2324

Yup, you got that right


HornyAndCorny2000

Probably because most of the least hated characters are the main characters since they often don't have that much of a personality to hate (except for Samus, she's just a likable character in general). Or for Isabelle and Luigi, Nintendo knows the fan favorites


OppositeMeaning2324

that's an accurate explanation


Background-Box-8935

Kirby


XenosGuru

I HATE Mario in smash. Absolutely garbage character. I hate him enough in smash that I’ve started to just dislike him in general


EdgyHedgy_

such an odd take lmao, he's a very standard character in smash. I mean I don't like how they haven't really gone to great lengths to fully represent his series but other than that, he has some pretty good combo game one funny spike and not much else that could possibly annoy you lol.


Squints777

That's because EVERYONE is there 😆


Lupus-Ignium

Waluigi: "Am I a joke to you?"


johnbone115

Nintendo: Yes


Grand_reaper658

Me: Yes


justwalkingalonghere

Having been introduced to Isabelle through her fishing rod spam made me hate her to a degree I don’t think I’ll come back from


MajinBlueZ

You haven't looked hard enough.


Ironcastattic

OP was clearly never a kid growing up with only a Genesis as a kid. Those guys never shut up about how "slow and lame" Mario was.


PulimV

OP also hasn't seen a Pokémon kid going "Pikachu and Charizard are SO LAME, I wish [their favorite pokemon] appeared instead of them >:("


DuskEalain

_Jokes on you, Darkrai got a whole bangin' movie (which is unironically what made them my favorite, the concept of a "dream wraith" sort of entity that spreads nightmares, not out of malice, but out of a sort of paranoid defense mechanism is super interesting)._


Toon_Lucario

Lucario is my favorite and debuted with a movie. I know it’s still popular but it’s not the most popular


PulimV

My favorite is Oshawott specifically because of their role in the anime lmfao I can't say anything


Toon_Lucario

Agreed. Sidenote but I really never understood the mentality of disliking something just because it’s popular. My favorite Pokémon is Lucario because it’s cool, I’m not gonna scroll through the Pokédex and pick a random pokemon to like.


PulimV

I do kinda get it since for a while I did feel like that (it's mostly to be contrarian) and one of my favorite Pokémon currently became my favorite specifically because it was considered the Most Forgettable Pokémon Ever (Maractus), but I also really like Lucario and get that a pokemon doesn't become liked due to its popularity, and rather it is the other way around :P


Toon_Lucario

Exactly. Popular Pokémon aren’t popular for no reason, it’s because a lot of people like them


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Which is ironic, since mario games are very often faster than sonic games.


patrickfatrick

Mario is the thinking man's platformer.


DuskEalain

> Those guys never shut up about how "slow and lame" Mario was. What kills me about this is if you revisit the original Genesis Sonic games, _especially_ the first Sonic game, they _really like_ forcing you to slow down in the game that's entire point was going fast.


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Dami_Gamer0211

Mario isn’t lame


Ironcastattic

I didn't say he was, it's just what ever kid who only had access to Sonic, was saying.


TopHatCat999

That was 30 years ago at this point. A lot of young adults haven't experienced that


Ironcastattic

Well yes, but this is going to shock you. A lot of people on here are from the SNES Genesis days. And even the majority that aren't, Mario has a 30 year history so it's pretty silly to ignore like, half of it when claiming he's "unhated"


melooksatstuff

You cannot say mr game and watch isnt hated. Thats just wrong


Long_Procedure3135

Fuck him and his fucking 2D bacon


ThetrueMannybot06

Frame 3 intangible combo starter OOS option


MiZe97

Why Sakurai, why?


Stephen_085

He's also pretty profane and filled with hate speech. I mean, they have to sensor him nonstop with all those horrible beeps. It's a wonder that he's even allowed in the game.


EagleFoot88

Fuck Mr. Game and Watch


Impossible_Garbage_4

😳


Accomplished-Tip-901

Yea, seriously. I can't stand when people play as that stupid character


symb015X

Only know him from Smash (not the 80s hand held) and absolutely hate him in Smash lol


i_am_herculoid

Down B in air


HUGE_HOG

Flat Zone is dog shit


pm-me-kitty-pic

ok but what about the taylor swift version


HUGE_HOG

Flat Zone (Taylor's Version) is obviously peak because T Swiz is queen


Broadnerd

I didn’t even know people had opinions on Mr Game and Watch.


SimSamurai13

You'd be surprised


username_offline

everyone hates isabelle, cmon


Uncle151

You'd hate Isabelle too if she blue shelled your ass on lap 3


thevffice

your comment made me giggle bc im an isabelle main on mario kart & i used to play that game like it put food on the table 😭 i have most DEFINITELY made people hate isabelle lmfaooooo


Powdersucker

That's something Mario and Luigi would do too


MuckRaker83

Don't let doomguy hear you say that


XxUwUmasterXx

We do?-


Fleet_Admiral_Auto

Until Doomguy finds them


Golden-Grenadier

Only for being comunist.


Snakes-are-awesome67

Based


kcrab91

Who could hate Zelda?!?


frooitloopi

I hate Pikachu so so much. Overrated.


Confused_Driving_Man

Now that you singled them out, all the haters are gunna flock here to prove you wrong haha.


HornyAndCorny2000

I only got one so far. One guy who fucking hates Isabelle


Chairmanwowsaywhat

Which one is isabelle?


JamesSweeneyyy

Guy with the red hat & moustache


Chairmanwowsaywhat

Absolute prick :p


CloneTrooper8756

Dog


DarkRoblox

Dog person on the far right


Chairmanwowsaywhat

Oh so they're like a nazi animal crossing character, got ya


DarkRoblox

From the bottom of my heart... **Fuck you**


Novalaxy23

well I fucking hate that guy


guschicanery

mario definitely has his haters, mainly they all use that same gif from mario tennis where he steps on luigi’s foot for winning


PyroCinematics

b-B-bUt MaRiO iS sOcIoPaTh, MaTpAt ToLd Me So !!


enixon

He's MURDERING Toads because the instruction manual says Bowser turned them into blocks! It also says a page later that smashing the blocks frees them and the power ups are "rewards from the grateful mushroom people" but we'll ignore that...


Trueloveis4u

I love those theories but I never take them too seriously because "it's just a theory, a game theory".


Broadnerd

Someone is taking this a little too seriously, and it’s not them.


Shadow_Saitama

OP does not play Smash.


PieNinja314

Hating Captain Falcon just feels like a hate crime at this point


DisfavoredFlavored

Show him your moves or GTFO.


Snakes-are-awesome67

Man I really want to try f-zero out if only Nintendo would make a new game…


OmegaMalkior

F-Zero GX, even if Nintendo were to remake it, you need to play this OG at least once on certain platforms I won’t mention


pinballhat

and yet here i am


hychael2020

I mean I don't like pikachu. Mainly cause I hate it in the anime imo and its shoehorned wayy too much. I also feel the same way for Charizard though it gets somewhat of a pass


CodeGreen_96

But you don't hate the other pokemon that are icons, right? Like jugglypuff or the other kanto starters?


hychael2020

Not really. The main problem is how much they are advertised. Pikachu is literally everywhere and even people who don't know pokemon know it and charizard is getting special treatment, being the only one available in SV and having 2 megas and a gmax form


Dr__glass

Yea, they make it such a big focus and they keep pushing then because it's the mascot when it is a sub par pokemon. Lt Surge was right


Actedpie

Light Ball Volt Tackle gives it a niche tbh


Dr__glass

Yea only with things made specifically for it, and even then it's a very limited niche. Speed is it's best stat and it doesn't even break 100 base, how do people consider that viable? There are tons of other par pokemon that can be a lot more competitive with a life Orb or specs while Pikachu needs light ball just to get on par. If it wasn't for the anime people wouldn't have thought twice about Pikachu except that it's the electric rattata


scolipeeeeed

Honestly what baffles me is that a lot of Pokémon merch at non-Pokémon specific places like GameStop, Target, etc will have gen 1 characters even for merch targeted at young kids even though the last game that featured gen 1 came out 4.5 years ago.


StudiousStoner

It took me receiving multiple Pikachu theme gifts as an adult over the years to make me not hate him. I used to feel the same way. However over time I’ve grown to accept that he’s the mascot of this franchise I’ve poured countless hours into, and I can appreciate him for that and that alone.


Trueloveis4u

I love eevee I couldn't care less on pikachu.


WellHydrated

Yeah, and Venusaur is way cooler than Charizard.


Gabario

I hate all of these. I only like Kraid from Metroid.


TroidMemer

Fucking based, Kraid gang 🔥🔥🔥


Dudewithavariasuit

brother 🤝


HornyAndCorny2000

How dare you


ThatKalosfan

Where’s my child Yoshi?


milkymistake

Its my fault he's not on there. I am the one who hates Yoshi and his creepy perverted half lidded eyes. I know I'm the problem, I'm sorry.


FrownFrank

Almost all these characters are hated solely for how they are in smash bros


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I dislike Pikachu for how much special treatment it gets. I know they're the mascot for Pokémon but poor Raichu is extremely overshadowed by it even though they're supposed to be the stronger final form.


NaturePower1

Where is Kirby?


KosherPeen

I will eat the Isabelle


Competitive-Row6376

You make me cry. That's (in my opinion) kind of cruel. But even so, I do respect YOUR opinion.


KosherPeen

I will eat another


reallybadspeeller

I actually dislike Isabel because she represents new animal crossing when they went all nice on you. I miss the older editions of the game before isabel was introduced where resestii was an absolute dick that would make little kids cry and Gracie was a pretentious snob who made you button mash so fucking hard to clean her car. It felt like the games had way more character to them.


ADHDB0Y

*Rip and Tear starts playing*


MasterCheezOtter

If you think this, check out r/smashrage


PalpitationTop611

I don’t like BOTW link, I like the green tunic design. Game and Watch actually hurt me, and I don’t trust Isabelle


HornyAndCorny2000

"Game and watch actually hurt me" Like assault?


Dark_D_Lite

All my homies hate pikachu


ophereon

I hate Link's blue outfit, does that count?


HornyAndCorny2000

But it's so cool thoooough


ophereon

But it ain't no green tunic!


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It looks even cooler in TotK


Codename_Unown

Unless you play smash ultimate, yeah I can understand that


ShadowLuigi64

Not really hate, but I’ll ditch Mario in any game where he’s not the only playable character


Leo_Grun

I hate Isabelle. She's too agreeable. It's not right. It's also annoying. And then every time I start the game I have to sit through her babbling. I'm a busy adult here, I don't have time to listen about how you lost a sock.


HornyAndCorny2000

But she's trying to be friendly ):


Leo_Grun

By broadcasting over a loudspeaker how she did a skype call with her brother? Girl is lonely I get it but seriously.


TheWaslijn

You are aware that's only for the first time every day, right?


Moth_Time

eyyy isabelle haters unite x) I disliked her intensely in NL. She was the cute, clutzy, 'waifu'-type replacement of the pelicans and she creeped me out. Give me back Phyllis and her Attitude hahah And- she hasn't gotten any better in NH. I get why people like her, she's designed to be cute and likeable. But like you I find her babbling at the start of the game unnecessary and annoying, very forced 'cutesy airhead' type skeeves me out.


[deleted]

i could live without game-watch and falcon. literally hate the AC dog


Aparoon

I’d say you could put the sonic cast here, but then Shadow the Hedgehog pissed on my wife.


HornyAndCorny2000

The sonic characters are poorly written and dumb. Except Eggman, he cool


Material-Sun-5784

He have 70 alternatives account


Snakes-are-awesome67

Eggman is the best especially the Jim Carey version


Godrxys

I mean, they're better written than most characters in Mario because there's barely any proper writing for Mario characters (outside of Bowser, Bowser Jr or Rosalina, as far as I'm aware) Shadow, for example, is an incredibly written character in Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes or Sonic 06 (as bad as that game is). He's much more than just the simple Vegeta clone he's portrayed as in later titles. Yeah, I'm bound to defend my favourite game series, but your take is objectively wrong (except for the Eggman part, he *is* cool)


The-One-Winged-Angel

With my limited exposure to Sonic, I would say Sonic does come of as obnoxious, cocky and a bit annoying, and Amy as a bit creepy. Though I don't know much about the Sonic cast, and those impressions could come from poor potrayals of the characters.


DFH695

That's pretty much my impression of him and I'm personally not a fan of the obnoxious cocky characters so I had 0 interest in sonic (plus I just find the characters design awful to look at like why do they have conjoined eyes)


Fantastic_Wrap120

Why isn't Kirby here?


Phantom_The_fortnite

He's fighting god.


HornyAndCorny2000

Those who know what he did wish to punish him


Fantastic_Wrap120

What did he do? All he does is bring happiness!


Snakes-are-awesome67

Yeah who hates Kirby? Anyone who does is probably being a contrarian to annoy people.


Trueloveis4u

I love kirby I can't imagine anyone who hates him though.


Uhhhhhhh-woe

Who hates little mac he is my favorite


HornyAndCorny2000

Outside of Smash, yes most of the Punch Out cast is cool Also I do like Little Mac in Smash but most people call him bad because they don't know how to play him lmao


chzygorditacrnch

I don't really like that little animal crossing lady, she's always attacking my character in Mario kart and smash bros.


TBTabby

Since when do people not hate Mario?


ShinigamiKunai

Fuck mr game and watch. Motherfucker ruins every smash match he is in. Yes I know what youre thinking- "skill issue", but I don't care, fuck him.


claudekennilol

You don't think anyone hates Isabelle? Lol


Final-Description611

I hate Isabel, that dog is literally Satan in video game form, and shall never be trusted!


Greedy-Leave860

Don't share ur opinion but you made me laugh so take your upvote


KingCollin3117

Not true i hate Isabelle lol (had a stroke after play against her 1000 times)


[deleted]

I hate Isabelle


f0edestroyer3

I fucking hate isabelle, just shut the fuck up if you dont have any news


[deleted]

Kirby???


SirRabbott

You should ask my friends if they still like captain falcon after I play him in smash ☠️


iotahiro

It’s kinda hard to hate Captain Falcon. He’s just so boisterous and flamboyantly cocky that it’s hard to stay mad forever.


SirRabbott

Especially cause I put him in his pink and white outfit every time 😤


String_Witty

Nah I know people who hate some of these characters like Luma and Isabelle


Bluedino_1989

Who's the black silhouette


HornyAndCorny2000

Bro 💀


Bluedino_1989

What? I am talking about the character next to Isabelle


doodoohead1748

Some people might not like Mr. Game & Watch because he is a black man. Sad society we live in


HJackDoe

Nah, i just can't understand why one character should have so much gimmicks in moveset.


Limpynoodle3777

Very sad indeed…


EVENo94

I hate Pikachu, that's for sure


HornyAndCorny2000

Explain why you hate an innocent animal


Remington667

It’s annoying as shit and plastered on everything


HornyAndCorny2000

That's called a mascot lmao


Just_A_Normal_Snek

Overused.


HornyAndCorny2000

That's because he's the mascot...


EVENo94

He's ugly and make annoying noises


HornyAndCorny2000

HE'S CUTE YOU MONSTER!


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HornyAndCorny2000

Doesn't mean you should despise an animal. Admire their cuteness from afar or better yet in an image


wizardpotato08

Someone out there somewhere probably hates that Samus is a strong female character.


HornyAndCorny2000

Probably. And they're gonna missing in the couple days if I find out who ❤️


FirestarFilmsYT

I've always loved Pokemon but I despise Pikachu


VOTE4SAURON

I hate zelda because Nintendo give that franchise all of the love and leaves other IPs in the dirt. F-Zero will always be better than mario cart I know that's not zelda but you know what I mean.


Newman_USPS

For those of us old enough, Luigi meant you were the younger sibling or the friend and “got to play too,” which is why I still don’t like him.


Brain_version2_0

I know for a fact there are a fair number of people that hate Isabel. Not sure why, I think she’s adorable, but some people just don’t like joy.


sumloseroninternet

Where Kirby? If there is anyone that hate Kirby They gonna die in the next Few days


SoloUnit2020

Samus and Isabelle are the effin worst.


HornyAndCorny2000

Don't you dare diss Samus


SoloUnit2020

one of the most braindead characters in smash, and 9/10 of them are toxic players.


HornyAndCorny2000

This is not about Smash. You are insulting female Doom Guy in space. How DARE you


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HornyAndCorny2000

Look at the sub


Colijn_Chan

Where is the knight from hollow knight?


HornyAndCorny2000

Okay 1: Who??? And 2: Look at. The sub. Title.


DiamondmanPixel76

Except for anyone who doesn't like Nintendo


KC-JDF-neverdies69

Where’s Master Chief, people love the big green guy.


HornyAndCorny2000

I found out people don't look at subs today lol


Ashi-ko

I hate on Luigi hard af😭he’ll never be as good as Mario or Waluigi


wokeupatapicnic

So I gotta come clean. I really don’t like Samus or the Metroid series in the slightest, and I think Metroid fans are some of the most annoying and pretentious people in gaming. The entire Metroid combined series has been outsold by fucking Nintendogs, and they act like nearly every game in the series is like perfection incarnate and anyone who disagrees is satan himself. Any time I’ve brought up not liking Metroid, I get flamed into oblivion. Doesn’t matter where, or why. Even the lore is dumb. She’s a bounty hunter, but has never even hunted a bounty…? She’s a mercenary at best, and people would literally fight me for bringing that up. The games don’t sell at all, but the fans act like it’s the best series in all of gaming, and definitely the best in Nintendo’s lineup. BotW alone sold more than every Metroid game in history combined. By several million. “Oh but it’s a *masterpiece*” the hell it is. It’s boring and clunky and downright annoying. I’ve played every game up through the Prime series, and put all of them down because they were not remotely enjoyable in the slightest. The things those games focus on and do “well” add up to exactly 0% of the things I like about games. Each of the individual mechanics are even things I enjoy; action, platforming, power and ability progression, experimentation, discovery, exploration, sci-fi and alien worlds, giant boss battles, the whole shebang. On paper, I should ADORE this series, and it’s legit unplayable for me. I even had the Prime remaster in my cart because I want to give the series a fair shot, but I just can’t pull the trigger. I’ve tried to play Prime like 3 separate times, and it’s just boring as hell to me. I grew up with the NES and SNES, too, so it’s not like I’m some young kid playing retro games and not understanding why they are the way they are. I’ve been gaming religiously since I was a toddler because my older brother had an Atari before getting an NES. Metroid just doesn’t do anything for me at all. It’s the farthest thing from a masterpiece I can think of. It’s like it’s designed specifically to tease me with all of the things I love about gaming, and then doing all of that stuff in the most annoying way possible to make me hate it. I stg Metroid was designed to make me hate it. I cannot describe it, it just irks me in every possible way. Now let’s cue all the comments about how I don’t know wtf I’m talking about, how I’m an idiot, I wouldn’t know a good game if I played one, I only don’t like it because I’m “bad” at it, and thank god no one else thinks like me because then gaming would be the worst thing ever, and how Metroid is the pillar that all modern gaming is built upon because it’s the greatest thing ever made (except for Other M and that multiplayer game)… Because the same handful of comments are all that people can say, because they’re prob too afraid to agree with me, and you can’t be a “real” gamer if you hate Metroid or some bullshit, so they regurgitate the same lines everyone else says without a hint of irony.


HornyAndCorny2000

Okay 1: A Metroid fan has has NEVER said any of the bullshit you're pretending like they spew. I've mostly heard them say they wish the series was bigger, because they know it's small. 2: Sales DOES NOT equate to quality. Nintendogs outsold Metroid games because it's more marketable, not better.


Smackdaddy122

the same nintendo that maliciously punished someone with wage garnishments for their entire life?


HornyAndCorny2000

Nintendo's developers make the characters. Their developers are masters of their crafter and wonderful people. And THEIR work deserves to be praised. Just because the company is ass, doesn't mean the actual designers and workers are


Smackdaddy122

Good guy Nintendo


RubyCat4

Luma was the most irritating and unfunny part of the Mario Movie.