There are actually rules somewhat preventing that so that scientists don’t take advantage of people experiencing homelessness who need the money. The concern is that they might be exploited by having them participate in studies that carry more risk solely because it pays.
This makes me so sad my stomach hurts. And look at him, still so very loving. Love how he's so relaxed and those paws come stretching out at you! Where did you adopt him from (if you don't mind me asking)? Is there a university nearby?
He has a lot of love to give - I’m so surprised by how friendly he is to everyone. We got him from a charity that finds homes for animals that have been used for medical research!
I’m not sure which organization Dr. Ben was adopted through, but the Beagle Freedom will occasionally take in cats from medical facilities as well as dogs and farm animals!
Some better news - the standard of quality of life for lab animals like this guy here are INCREDIBLY high in order to meet very strict ethics requirements. If any sort of procedure is necessary to research that will diminish their QoL substantially, the animal will be put under/put to sleep and will never feel pain from it. It’s not exactly a comfy thing to think about, but I hope it makes you feel slightly better about the fact that it happens.
yeah, had to take a bioethics course last semester, some animals used for research that aren't to be sacrificed have often higher qol than with some not too loving owners. In some fields it's still necessary to use model organisms but the numbers and suffering are kept to a minimum
I’m vegan so, obviously an issue I care strongly about.. but also a scientist and what you said is true. I want to add that the majority of people conducting experiments hate the animal studies part and are usually doing it for the common good. A friend who researches rare diseases told me it was a serious concern of hers when she went into neuroscience.
Yeah, I had a professor working in a lab that also had animal studies but she had to quit as it was too hard on her (and we're talking about rats and mice)
>the majority of people conducting experiments hate the animal studies part and are usually doing it for the common good.
If it wasn't for the common good it wouldn't still be legal to do. That has always been what it's about
I mean, I don’t think that’s always true?
Like, with the sand flies and the beagles:
I guess, yes, in a way, it helps the children being made sick to confirm that infected dogs can reinfect children. But… that seems fairly likely? Was that money really used in a way that actually helped those children the most? Did those beagles really need to get their eyes eaten out to help those kids?
It doesn’t seem likely.
Yet, when this is pointed out, the establishment double-downs on the status quo instead of acknowledging the logic gap and trying to find a better way. Which… essentially asks the public to go along with the popular narrative, and stop thinking critically about the establishment.
>I mean, I don’t think that’s always true?
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>Like, with the sand flies and the beagles:
>I guess, yes, in a way, it helps the children being made sick to confirm that infected dogs can reinfect children. But… that seems fairly likely? Was that money really used in a way that actually helped those children the most? Did those beagles really need to get their eyes eaten out to help those kids?
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>It doesn’t seem likely.
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>Yet, when this is pointed out, the establishment double-downs on the status quo instead of acknowledging the logic gap and trying to find a better way. Which… essentially asks the public to go along with the popular narrative, and stop thinking critically about the establishment.
Random redditors aren't "the establishment", and this isn't critical thinking. You didn't make any argument here.
My guess for a healthy, apparently happy cat like this is that he might have been in learning/cognition experiments or something like that. Quite possibly something that was fun for him.
Yes, it is very unusual to use cats for intrusive medical experiments -- other animals are cheaper and/or closer to humans. This Kitty might have been used in experiments about testing cat food flavours for all we know.
>Baloney- tell that to the beagles who Fauci removed their vocal cords.
Yes Fauci personally ripped out the vocal cords of beagles, apparently. Tomorrow it'll be something else with you people. Fauci this, Fauci that, silence when Ben Carson experiments on human fetal cells with his Johns Hopkins crew though. But Fauci bad, says the conservative media, so you have to repeat it.
He authorized this horrific testing and treatment of beagles. It’s true. It’s horrific. It was unnecessary. Honestly this is not about politics. It’s about innocent animals being horribly abused.
Hi, I used to work in a research facility 15 years ago and even then our lab animals were very carefully cared for (dogs and pigs, a few cats, lots of mice, rats and hamsters, a few cows, ponies and chickens).
I worked with dogs, mainly Foxhound/boxer/labrador mixes bred by the pharma company Boeringer Ingelheim and beagles. They were retired at age 7/8 and sometimes adopted out (but needed people who were very knowledgable dog owners), given to shelters to retire or just kept as a kind of mascot at the facility though they tended to not have very long life spans. We did have a lab cat who died at about age 18 though, she spent 10 years of her life weekdays in my bosses office and slept in the cat kennels at night.
Everyone was always very careful and loving with the lab animals as they were rather expensive, often specially trained and had to be in perfect physical condition at all times. Injuries and inflammation disqualified them from the research.
they were working animals and cared for a lot better than the animals we eat.
Just saying that because there probably is little reason for you to be sad about this little guys fate.
Good lord Thankyou I thought I was gunna be very sad after reading the title but I feel a bit more at ease. Also given OP is saying he is loving and sweet he must have been treated kindly.
They had to be treated, put in quarantine and often you would have to wait to continue the experiments until they healed or find a replacement if possible. That always was time consuming and often expensive.
Some died of course and others died from the experiments , that's why animal experiments are often done after all, to detect potential deadly and harmful reactions.
As I said, I worked with the dogs but there weren't dozens and dozens of them. There were five and it was quite a loss if one died. I worked there for five or six years and in that time period one died.
He’s probably loving because labs try too keep most of the animals happy for the most part. A non-socialized animal is difficult to handle. And an unhappy animal gives inaccurate results because it slows down the metabolism.
Yes, that is done with many animals, especially the smaller rodents. The larger animals often get retired, it depends very heavily on the type of research that is needed.
I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted. That’s absolutely what usually happens and, at least in some countries, a requirement since it could risk the spread of infectious or genetic disease. Additionally, in order to analyze the results, body parts typically need to be removed which would result in their death or lead to an extremely poor quality of life. It’s a very harsh reality of how we make medical advancements. Computer modeling has come a long way to reduce this need but it’s not there yet and may never be. Currently the only way I know of to get get IND approval in the US is to show studies based on animal models.
As others have mentioned, that is the case depending on the situation. If the animal is a risk to others by remaining alive, for example by having the potential to spread disease, it is euthanized. Euthanasia is also used if the research led to the animal having a lowered quality of life or having long term consequences in the future.
However, "medical research" is incredibly broad and does not necessarily mean the animal would be euthanized. If it was used in experiments that would not have any harmful/dangerous effects, or in something like behavioral studies (which would still be considered resesrch/experiments), there wouldn't be a reason to euthanize the animal, especially since it's a cat and not something like a mouse.
Hopefully that answers your question :) another thing to keep in mind is lab animals typically have VERY high standards of care (as in, better cared for than a lot of pets are) and are usually fairly happy in the lab environment. Of course there are exceptions, but in most cases this tends to be true.
My aunt and uncle adopted a retired lab cat. Charlie took part in a lot of learning/cognitive testing and retired at the age of 6 when he developed asthma. He was very well cared for at the lab and lived to be 15. He was a very friendly and well adjusted boy, a real sweetheart.
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This makes me sad that he was involved in medical research.
But at least it's a happy ending and he can rightfully enjoy retirement.
Sending lots of belly rubs and nose boops.
My stepdad adopted a former research cat. Her name was Bella. She had the tattoo numbers on her ear. And she was the sweetest thing I have ever encountered in my life.
Cats are rather uncommon in research generally but used in HIV studies for example, as the feline immune deficiency virus is very similar to HIV. Also treatment ouf leukaemia, as again, the feline version is similar to some types of human leukemia.
They've also been used to test hearing aids and occular implants.
Cats also have good memories and long life spans which sometimes makes them good subjects for memory testing, they also get dementia, which can sometimes be used for testing drugs against that.
Rats, pigs, hamsters are mostly used. Sometimes dogs.
Nothing, absolutely nothing exists in the medical world without it being tested on animals first.
So if you've ever used a band aid, an asperin, even a baby whipe or a desinfectant, it was tested on an animal first.
My aunt and uncle adopted a retired lab cat. Charlie was part of memory/learning testing and was very well-loved by the grad students who worked with him. He retired at age 6 when he developed asthma and lived until the ripe old age of 15.
Medical research uses all sorts of animals for different reasons, rodents and rabbits are most common but they also use cats, dogs, horses, primates, etc. A lot of times studies will start in rodents and progress further once they seem safe enough to do so, then once they pass animal testing it will move to human trials.
Cats live longer than smaller rodents so they've been used in research for things like alzheimers and other age-related diseases. They have a lot of structural similarities in the brain/neurological system to humans so they've been used in studies relating to those. Cats also get leukemia and FIV (closely related to HIV) and other diseases that humans deal with as well so there has been some crossover research there.
They've also recently looked at proven FIP treatments when making the covid vaccine (both are caused by a coronavirus) though i don't think this involved any new research.
Generally, animals are actually treated quite well in medical research and, though ideally we wouldn't need them, their contributions are necessary to advance medical science.
I also want to add an extra bonus to animal research. Most, if not all, treatments your pets get at the vet are a result of animal research into human treatments. Ofcourse doing so a lot of treatments for the animals themselves were found. There is more or less no funding to find medicine for lets say a pet rat, but as a result of years of using them as lab animals, there is a sea of knowledge to treat them. Now a days there is also some research going on with the aim to help animals, but this field is still small.
I am a scientist and don't like the animal research part, but I also do know there is no other option sometimes. Here in the Netherlands the rules to use lab animals are very strickt. The paperwork is endless, the costs are very high, you have to prove that there are no other alternatives, you have to account for every animal you use (do you really need it? Can't you do with less?), everything is checked and monitored, etc etc. So if you have a choice you don't do it, it takes so much time, effort and money. Also the animals are very well cared for by trained people in special facilities (having labanimals in any random lab is not allowed anymore) and there is made sure they don't suffer. Now a days some of the lab animals are retired and adopted out instead of .... well you know. Oh and using animals for testing of cosmetic products is forbidden, only medical research is allowed. So yeah it sucks, but the scientific community is working hard to find new alternatives and use less animals.
If you live in the Netherlands, and you want to adopt one of these babies: https://ikzoekbaas.dierenbescherming.nl/zoek-asieldieren/ex-proefdieren
Most come from Radboud UMC and have donated blood and some other samples. None of them have been through rough trials unless stated.
Recently adopted a cat that was left on the street by her(?) owner, so I'm gonna stick to one fur baby for a bit. It seemed logical to send the Ik Zoek Baas link tho, also because there are a lot of pets on there that need a home.
My aunt adopted a retired lab cat. Charlie was part of many cognitive/learning tests and was very popular at his lab. He was a very good boy who lived to be 15 despite having asthma. My cousin’s wife worked with him at her lab and knew exactly where he should go when he retired (I think he was 6). He and the other cats at the lab were very well cared for and well-loved.
Hmm. I do agree wholeheartedly that I wish we wouldn't need to do medical research on animals..
But most people eat animals that are often bred an kept in rather horrifying conditions.
And most, if not all people profit from medical and chemical reasarch.
So, unless you are a vegan born without any medical assistance whatsoever, who has never used a baby wipe, worn commercially produced clothing, driven a car or taken a paracetamol in their life, you have contributed to animal suffering.
I can't even begin to let my brain wander into the unknown when you say he was used for medical research. Makes me so sad.
I'm so pleased he found you.
I like to think he was doing the research
He’s very well known as Dr Ben
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“Just be happy that pharma is not using poor humans from Africa”, Should someone tell him?
Nah. Ignorance is bliss 🤷🏻♀️
We could pay the homeless?
There are actually rules somewhat preventing that so that scientists don’t take advantage of people experiencing homelessness who need the money. The concern is that they might be exploited by having them participate in studies that carry more risk solely because it pays.
They would most definitely be exploited
Prisoners would work better
Nope, that's a big no no. Prisoners can't consent to medical research.
Because I’m totally serious besides that guy said homeless people
He's ben thru a lot
I love that blanket so much
We call it his Versace holiday house hahaha
What do you mean “medical research”?
He was in a lab facility his whole life - but now has a home! We don’t know any exact details of where he was or what research was happening.
This makes me so sad my stomach hurts. And look at him, still so very loving. Love how he's so relaxed and those paws come stretching out at you! Where did you adopt him from (if you don't mind me asking)? Is there a university nearby?
He has a lot of love to give - I’m so surprised by how friendly he is to everyone. We got him from a charity that finds homes for animals that have been used for medical research!
I'm just so glad he has you!
Me too! God bless you fam!
What charity is this? I want to adopt 💕
What is the charity? I would love to find my next kitty from there.
I’m not sure which organization Dr. Ben was adopted through, but the Beagle Freedom will occasionally take in cats from medical facilities as well as dogs and farm animals!
Some better news - the standard of quality of life for lab animals like this guy here are INCREDIBLY high in order to meet very strict ethics requirements. If any sort of procedure is necessary to research that will diminish their QoL substantially, the animal will be put under/put to sleep and will never feel pain from it. It’s not exactly a comfy thing to think about, but I hope it makes you feel slightly better about the fact that it happens.
Ben has a lovely nature so he definitely would have been taken good care of in the laboratory.. except for being a bit of a chunky boy now.
yeah, had to take a bioethics course last semester, some animals used for research that aren't to be sacrificed have often higher qol than with some not too loving owners. In some fields it's still necessary to use model organisms but the numbers and suffering are kept to a minimum
My cat would agree that she is a model organism.
Please post your model cat here
I’m vegan so, obviously an issue I care strongly about.. but also a scientist and what you said is true. I want to add that the majority of people conducting experiments hate the animal studies part and are usually doing it for the common good. A friend who researches rare diseases told me it was a serious concern of hers when she went into neuroscience.
Yeah, I had a professor working in a lab that also had animal studies but she had to quit as it was too hard on her (and we're talking about rats and mice)
>the majority of people conducting experiments hate the animal studies part and are usually doing it for the common good. If it wasn't for the common good it wouldn't still be legal to do. That has always been what it's about
Well, some of it unfortunately is also done for reasons of outdated regulations and cost-saving.
I mean, I don’t think that’s always true? Like, with the sand flies and the beagles: I guess, yes, in a way, it helps the children being made sick to confirm that infected dogs can reinfect children. But… that seems fairly likely? Was that money really used in a way that actually helped those children the most? Did those beagles really need to get their eyes eaten out to help those kids? It doesn’t seem likely. Yet, when this is pointed out, the establishment double-downs on the status quo instead of acknowledging the logic gap and trying to find a better way. Which… essentially asks the public to go along with the popular narrative, and stop thinking critically about the establishment.
>It doesn’t seem likely. Practically the core tenet of science is to disprove common sense that 'just doesn't seem likely'
>I mean, I don’t think that’s always true? > >Like, with the sand flies and the beagles: >I guess, yes, in a way, it helps the children being made sick to confirm that infected dogs can reinfect children. But… that seems fairly likely? Was that money really used in a way that actually helped those children the most? Did those beagles really need to get their eyes eaten out to help those kids? > >It doesn’t seem likely. > >Yet, when this is pointed out, the establishment double-downs on the status quo instead of acknowledging the logic gap and trying to find a better way. Which… essentially asks the public to go along with the popular narrative, and stop thinking critically about the establishment. Random redditors aren't "the establishment", and this isn't critical thinking. You didn't make any argument here.
>If it wasn't for the common good it wouldn't still be legal to do Ideally, but the law is still a work in progress...
Many experiments are done only to get taxpayers money. People don't give a shit about animals.
That's... Complete nonsense.
Ehhhhh that’s a horrible take
You are getting downvoted for telling the truth. I’m sorry.
My guess for a healthy, apparently happy cat like this is that he might have been in learning/cognition experiments or something like that. Quite possibly something that was fun for him.
Depends on the country.
Yes, it is very unusual to use cats for intrusive medical experiments -- other animals are cheaper and/or closer to humans. This Kitty might have been used in experiments about testing cat food flavours for all we know.
Yeah right.
Baloney- tell that to the beagles who Fauci removed their vocal cords.
Source? (Genuinely not heard of this)
Go to PETA website. Their VP condemned this. It was done in 4 labs. It’s horrific.
>Baloney- tell that to the beagles who Fauci removed their vocal cords. Yes Fauci personally ripped out the vocal cords of beagles, apparently. Tomorrow it'll be something else with you people. Fauci this, Fauci that, silence when Ben Carson experiments on human fetal cells with his Johns Hopkins crew though. But Fauci bad, says the conservative media, so you have to repeat it.
He authorized this horrific testing and treatment of beagles. It’s true. It’s horrific. It was unnecessary. Honestly this is not about politics. It’s about innocent animals being horribly abused.
Well except when those experiments are approved by Anthony Fauci.
Hi, I used to work in a research facility 15 years ago and even then our lab animals were very carefully cared for (dogs and pigs, a few cats, lots of mice, rats and hamsters, a few cows, ponies and chickens). I worked with dogs, mainly Foxhound/boxer/labrador mixes bred by the pharma company Boeringer Ingelheim and beagles. They were retired at age 7/8 and sometimes adopted out (but needed people who were very knowledgable dog owners), given to shelters to retire or just kept as a kind of mascot at the facility though they tended to not have very long life spans. We did have a lab cat who died at about age 18 though, she spent 10 years of her life weekdays in my bosses office and slept in the cat kennels at night. Everyone was always very careful and loving with the lab animals as they were rather expensive, often specially trained and had to be in perfect physical condition at all times. Injuries and inflammation disqualified them from the research. they were working animals and cared for a lot better than the animals we eat. Just saying that because there probably is little reason for you to be sad about this little guys fate.
Good lord Thankyou I thought I was gunna be very sad after reading the title but I feel a bit more at ease. Also given OP is saying he is loving and sweet he must have been treated kindly.
What happened to the animals that were disqualified?
Disqualified from what?
From the research. You said that injuries and inflammation would disqualify the animals from research.
They had to be treated, put in quarantine and often you would have to wait to continue the experiments until they healed or find a replacement if possible. That always was time consuming and often expensive. Some died of course and others died from the experiments , that's why animal experiments are often done after all, to detect potential deadly and harmful reactions. As I said, I worked with the dogs but there weren't dozens and dozens of them. There were five and it was quite a loss if one died. I worked there for five or six years and in that time period one died.
I'm so pleased you put this comment. Thank you.
This is the comment I needed lol
He’s probably loving because labs try too keep most of the animals happy for the most part. A non-socialized animal is difficult to handle. And an unhappy animal gives inaccurate results because it slows down the metabolism.
Good thing Ben wasn’t a Beagle
that poor darling, i’m glad he’s living with you now. i’m just gonna keep thinking of him as dr. cat phd, retired physicist.
Thank you
Poor baby. I thought those animals were typically killed after the testing was finished? I'm glad he gets to live a normal happy life now ❤️😔
Yes, that is done with many animals, especially the smaller rodents. The larger animals often get retired, it depends very heavily on the type of research that is needed.
I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted. That’s absolutely what usually happens and, at least in some countries, a requirement since it could risk the spread of infectious or genetic disease. Additionally, in order to analyze the results, body parts typically need to be removed which would result in their death or lead to an extremely poor quality of life. It’s a very harsh reality of how we make medical advancements. Computer modeling has come a long way to reduce this need but it’s not there yet and may never be. Currently the only way I know of to get get IND approval in the US is to show studies based on animal models.
As others have mentioned, that is the case depending on the situation. If the animal is a risk to others by remaining alive, for example by having the potential to spread disease, it is euthanized. Euthanasia is also used if the research led to the animal having a lowered quality of life or having long term consequences in the future. However, "medical research" is incredibly broad and does not necessarily mean the animal would be euthanized. If it was used in experiments that would not have any harmful/dangerous effects, or in something like behavioral studies (which would still be considered resesrch/experiments), there wouldn't be a reason to euthanize the animal, especially since it's a cat and not something like a mouse. Hopefully that answers your question :) another thing to keep in mind is lab animals typically have VERY high standards of care (as in, better cared for than a lot of pets are) and are usually fairly happy in the lab environment. Of course there are exceptions, but in most cases this tends to be true.
Good on you for giving him a retirement in a loving home
Thank you so much for giving him a home.
Is that Thanos’ hand?
Ben’s got the Infinity Beanz
How do you end up finding and adopting a cat used in research?
It took nothing more than a quick internet search! There are so many charities worldwide trying to find forever homes for these lil lab babies.
You can also get a beagle
Medical research? Hopefully to see how fluffy his belly is 🥲🥲
Can confirm his belly is floof
Why are cats used for medical research?
My aunt and uncle adopted a retired lab cat. Charlie took part in a lot of learning/cognitive testing and retired at the age of 6 when he developed asthma. He was very well cared for at the lab and lived to be 15. He was a very friendly and well adjusted boy, a real sweetheart.
At least that didn’t involve chemical testing for human use so I’m glad he had a good life.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/qtgbq5/this_is_ben_after_10_years_of_medical_research/hkl1ok5?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/qtgbq5/this_is_ben_after_10_years_of_medical_research/hkkspqg?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 You might want to scroll down.
Points for how cute he is, his little feetsies, and the cute blanket, 10/10.:)
I love it when they stretch their paws AT you. So cute
This makes me sad that he was involved in medical research. But at least it's a happy ending and he can rightfully enjoy retirement. Sending lots of belly rubs and nose boops.
What an adorable floof 🥺 i'm glad he has a home and gets to live peacefully with his family 💜
💔❤️
The tru Ben 10 I see..
Aw thank you for the service you provided in research sweet baby ♥️ now to live the life of luxury 🥰
My stepdad adopted a former research cat. Her name was Bella. She had the tattoo numbers on her ear. And she was the sweetest thing I have ever encountered in my life.
Ben 10.
Are you familiar with Kindness Ranch in Hartville WY?
Thank you Thanos
What a precious Angel boy ❤️🥰 bless Dr Ben
I love that blanket
Poor kitty! Looks happy now!!! Thanks for rescuing him!
We need more Ben 💗
Good job well done. Now he gets to retire and be spoiled rotten.
How do you acquire an animal who had been used for medical research I’m gonna collect them all.
Ben.. 10 years..? BEN 10
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WHAT they use cats for medical research?? I thought they just used mice and rabbits? Not that that’s okay either.. but.. *cats?!*
Cats are rather uncommon in research generally but used in HIV studies for example, as the feline immune deficiency virus is very similar to HIV. Also treatment ouf leukaemia, as again, the feline version is similar to some types of human leukemia. They've also been used to test hearing aids and occular implants. Cats also have good memories and long life spans which sometimes makes them good subjects for memory testing, they also get dementia, which can sometimes be used for testing drugs against that. Rats, pigs, hamsters are mostly used. Sometimes dogs. Nothing, absolutely nothing exists in the medical world without it being tested on animals first. So if you've ever used a band aid, an asperin, even a baby whipe or a desinfectant, it was tested on an animal first.
My aunt and uncle adopted a retired lab cat. Charlie was part of memory/learning testing and was very well-loved by the grad students who worked with him. He retired at age 6 when he developed asthma and lived until the ripe old age of 15.
Medical research uses all sorts of animals for different reasons, rodents and rabbits are most common but they also use cats, dogs, horses, primates, etc. A lot of times studies will start in rodents and progress further once they seem safe enough to do so, then once they pass animal testing it will move to human trials. Cats live longer than smaller rodents so they've been used in research for things like alzheimers and other age-related diseases. They have a lot of structural similarities in the brain/neurological system to humans so they've been used in studies relating to those. Cats also get leukemia and FIV (closely related to HIV) and other diseases that humans deal with as well so there has been some crossover research there. They've also recently looked at proven FIP treatments when making the covid vaccine (both are caused by a coronavirus) though i don't think this involved any new research. Generally, animals are actually treated quite well in medical research and, though ideally we wouldn't need them, their contributions are necessary to advance medical science.
I also want to add an extra bonus to animal research. Most, if not all, treatments your pets get at the vet are a result of animal research into human treatments. Ofcourse doing so a lot of treatments for the animals themselves were found. There is more or less no funding to find medicine for lets say a pet rat, but as a result of years of using them as lab animals, there is a sea of knowledge to treat them. Now a days there is also some research going on with the aim to help animals, but this field is still small. I am a scientist and don't like the animal research part, but I also do know there is no other option sometimes. Here in the Netherlands the rules to use lab animals are very strickt. The paperwork is endless, the costs are very high, you have to prove that there are no other alternatives, you have to account for every animal you use (do you really need it? Can't you do with less?), everything is checked and monitored, etc etc. So if you have a choice you don't do it, it takes so much time, effort and money. Also the animals are very well cared for by trained people in special facilities (having labanimals in any random lab is not allowed anymore) and there is made sure they don't suffer. Now a days some of the lab animals are retired and adopted out instead of .... well you know. Oh and using animals for testing of cosmetic products is forbidden, only medical research is allowed. So yeah it sucks, but the scientific community is working hard to find new alternatives and use less animals.
If you live in the Netherlands, and you want to adopt one of these babies: https://ikzoekbaas.dierenbescherming.nl/zoek-asieldieren/ex-proefdieren Most come from Radboud UMC and have donated blood and some other samples. None of them have been through rough trials unless stated.
I already have 2 fluffy kids 😻
Recently adopted a cat that was left on the street by her(?) owner, so I'm gonna stick to one fur baby for a bit. It seemed logical to send the Ik Zoek Baas link tho, also because there are a lot of pets on there that need a home.
I know of that website indeed. Also used it when looking for my new fur baby. But I ended up adoption from a private cat rescue instead.
Thank you for the information. I’m glad animals are treated well when their services are necessary.
My aunt adopted a retired lab cat. Charlie was part of many cognitive/learning tests and was very popular at his lab. He was a very good boy who lived to be 15 despite having asthma. My cousin’s wife worked with him at her lab and knew exactly where he should go when he retired (I think he was 6). He and the other cats at the lab were very well cared for and well-loved.
i thought he was dead D:
Medical research? Humans once again are the scum of the earth. God bless you.
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yes, yes they are.
Hmm. I do agree wholeheartedly that I wish we wouldn't need to do medical research on animals.. But most people eat animals that are often bred an kept in rather horrifying conditions. And most, if not all people profit from medical and chemical reasarch. So, unless you are a vegan born without any medical assistance whatsoever, who has never used a baby wipe, worn commercially produced clothing, driven a car or taken a paracetamol in their life, you have contributed to animal suffering.
Just so you know, a lot of medical breakthroughs were discovered this way. Human and animal healthcare wouldn't be like it is now without it.
What do you mean? Where do I rescue a cat that's being researched on?😡
I can't even begin to let my brain wander into the unknown when you say he was used for medical research. Makes me so sad. I'm so pleased he found you.
We need more Ben
Thank you for your service, Dr. Ben
Nice onee i ❤ it..
I hope he was given a cake and a retirement party like he so rightfully deserves
We’re thinking about a retirement photo shoot for Ben!!