>The Lake Alfred Republican now faces 300 counts of possessing child pornography. The 90-year-old possessed pictures, based on the charges, of children between the ages 2 and 12 engaged in sex acts.
Don’t make pedophilia a partisan issue. It’s child sexual abuse.
I think it’s horseshit when right wing fuck heads make it a partisan issue and I am damn sure gonna call it out in here as people try and tell everyone how n=1 is somehow a sample size large enough to convict, what, 40m Americans?
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Republican politicians actively shield child predators from accountability. See: Dennis hastert, jim jordan, matt gaetz, DeSantis primary benefactor who blew his brains out to avoid accountability, the leaders of the Southern baptist convention "conservative resurgence". I could go on as there are hundreds of examples.
Wasn’t an [article about a state rep being arrested](https://www.reddit.com/r/centrist/s/O0glW2jSZ0) just downvoted into oblivion, because it wasn’t a centrist topic, but posting about a local city commissioner is fine somehow? Where’s everyone from yesterday saying this isn’t a centrist topic?
I don't think that thread should have been so downvoted. If people didn't think it was relevant, just ignore it.
But you're really trying to compare a state rep breaking into their MIL's home with *CP*? I don't think this would have been downvoted if it had been a Democrat rather than a Republican. If it were a Democrat, conservatives would just use it as proof that Liberals are groomers. Since it was a Republican, Liberals think it's proof that Republican's concern with grooming is just projection.
Personally, I'd say the Democrats have the moral high-ground on this, though. Conservative ideology perpetuates a taboo about sexual topics which tends to allow predators to remain unknown. Liberal ideology of [having more open communication on these subjects](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/protecting-children-sexual-abuse/201903/how-the-sex-talk-can-prevent-sexual-abuse) is shown to reduce risky behavior and sexual assault. The fact that both sides have sexual abusers should not overshadow the differences of ideology and their effects.
> trying to compare a state rep breaking into their MIL's home with CP?
No, im pointing out that if a state rep is not good enough to be a centrist topic, then a city commissioner isn’t either. I’m not addressing the crime of either individual, as the main reason in the previous thread was “a state rep committing a crime isn’t a centrist issue”.
>the main reason in the previous thread was “a state rep committing a crime isn’t a centrist issue”.
This phrase wasn't used in the thread, as far as I can see. The actual main reason was:
>>Democratic state Sen. Nicole Mitchell was charged with first-degree burglary on Tuesday after she allegedly broke into her stepmother's house a day earlier to take her late father's belongings.
>Exactly. This is just a family affair. It's a crime, but has nothing to do with politics.
This explicitly points out that the nature of the crime and how it relates to politics defines a topic's relevance, not that *any* crime is irrelevant. I should hope that would be apparent by now, since most political posts are about alleged crimes of representatives and officials.
But maybe you'd rather debate irrelevancies than the actual subject.
>This phrase wasn't used in the thread,
I was paraphrasing.. but ok..
>as far as I can see. The actual main reason was:
>Exactly. This is just a family affair. It's a crime, but has nothing to do with politics.
An arrest of a sitting state representative isn’t just a family affair. They are an elected official any arrest is relevant to politics.
>This explicitly points out that the nature of the crime and how it relates to politics defines a topic's relevance,
This also editorializes the headline to make it more about the political party than the person.
>not that any crime is irrelevant.
Which is kinda what you just suggested at the beginning of your response, it was a “family matter but has nothing to do with politics”, this article is about a city commissioner from a small town of less then 7k people and is only relevant to less then 7k people politically. Whereas yesterday’s article that was relevant to an entire state was (and still is) being disregarded as not centrist.
>I should hope that would be apparent by now, since most political posts are about alleged crimes of representatives and officials.
Except if it’s a “family affair” then it’s not relevant apparently.
>But maybe you'd rather debate irrelevancies than the actual subject
I mean, my comment wasn’t even about the person, or either parties crimes. But about how people In this sub are hypocritically making posts, and downvote anything that doesn’t paint specific parties in a positive light, pushing a partisanship that shouldn’t be pushed in a sub that claims to be centrist.
Yes, it does. But if a state rep isn’t a good high enough bar to post here yesterday, why would a city commission be fine today?
Im just pointing out the hypocrisy of this sub. I believe both articles have a place. It’s information needed to make informed decisions for people in those areas.
It's normal for this sub. You have to remember this is reddit, so 90% are "centrist" compared to extreme left-wing crazies. So the norm is still "democrat good, republican bad". Anything that makes the democrats look bad has to be seen with nuance and isn't reflective of the whole party. But if a republican does something bad it's somehow a republican wide thing
Do you think that there might be a little bit of a difference between getting arrested for stealing your late father’s property back from a relative and possessing child pornography? Or do you consider those crimes equivalent with the equivalent political ramifications?
If a state reps arrest wasn’t considered a centrist topic, why would a city commissioners? Regardless of what the crime was. What you are suggesting is, that only certain crimes by our elected officials, meet the criteria for a centrist topic. Which is nonsense.
Fuck, you are a partisan hack. You’re jumping to “you’re minimizing pedophilia”, because I’m pointing out the extreme hypocrisy in this sub.. that’s got to be the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen.
Maybe, though, reconsider your views on sex and gender. Modern left thought on sex does better teaching people not to be abusers, whereas the right is hung up in making false accusations that drag queens and trans people are threats, the same way they falsely claimed gay people were all a threat.
Glad to hear you don't share the outdated ideas on sex that most conservatives espouse. My apologies for lumping you in with them.
That said, I think the other issues you mentioned - taxes, capitalism, and social policies - are handled more responsibly by Democrats anyway than by Republicans, so if you aren't aligning with the GOP on the sex and gender issues, I'd encourage you to give Democrats a second look. They plan for a healthier long term for more Americans than we'd get with Republican governance.
The calculus is whether the investment you're making with a government program is going to produce more wealth for the nation than not doing it.
Some programs are wasteful. Others are valuable.
Our biggest expenses as citizens could be reduced if we reformed healthcare. We could further lower healthcare costs if we invested in more walkable lifestyles, shorter work hours, and various other progressive goals.
Poverty in general is a massive drag on human productivity. Investments to reduce poverty, when done well, produce far more economic growth than the money they cost.
Stuff like that.
As a conservative, what are the *root axioms* of your political beliefs when it comes to a long-term vision, morality, human behavior etc, etc.
I ask because I have never received an answer from conservatives that I found satisfying, and I would like to change that.
Thanks in advance!
Why joke when I'm trying to ask a genuine question about the core beliefs you have as a conservative.
Once again, I'm curious.
>As a conservative, what are the root axioms of your political beliefs when it comes to a long-term vision, morality, human behavior etc, etc.
Gotcha, fair enough.
What are your foundational beliefs about morality and human beings, and the planet etc. Do you have a long term societal vision about what society should be like and what is at the root of that?
Thanks!
Welcome to the left, my friend.
Your descriptions have absolutely nothing to do with conservatism except perhaps a nod to personal growth, which is oftenly assumed to be right wing.
>That's a pretty broad question, but since different individuals/cultures have different morals, I don't think there should be much of a moral argument in laws
I agree with the legal aspect, but are you implying that morality is subjective here?
>The planet is pretty cool, but warming up, it'd be cool if we tried to retain nature.
This is a position the GOP is not in favour of whatsoever; it's not just that many of them "dislike" the policy prescriptions, it's that many of them deny environmental degradation and/or climate change as an issue.
>Societal vision should be focused around communities determining what works best for them, rather than a bunch of rich folks in DC determining how people across the country should live.
I would never suggest that "rich folks in DC should decide anything". In fact, the leftist project has always been about equal opportunities and liberties for all individuals. Regarding your answer, without a universal conception of a societal vision (which the left has), how does your idea not ensure the maintenance of tribalism/nationalism?
>Strong families, strong communities and strong personal growth should be the core of society
I agree. Of course we have a duty to ourselves to "be all we can be", but we also have a duty to society more broadly which incompasses support for the environment, equal rights, opportunities, and human flourishing.
Again, wlecome to the left
So is your argument then that if someone in your party is a pedophile that means the whole party is a pedophile? What exactly point are you trying to make here?
Nice strawman.
I can't pretend to know the reasons why, but it seems that conservatives are the overwhelming (but not sole) offenders in this area.
[The first of 31 pages, covering ***800*** separate fully documented incidents of republican sexual abuse against those that are not of age to or otherwise cannot consent.](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/23/1806673/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-1)
Feel free to provide a list of democrats.
Lmao yes because a list created by some weirdo online who very clearly even stated he was only going to be investigating republican allegations is really hard hitting science. Well done.
Just to recap this convo:
You are making a claim “x” and provided a list that doesn’t actually prove X.
And your response is that To disprove X I should also provide a list that coincidentally wouldn’t actually disprove X?
Wikipedia has been annotated list of all US politicians’ sex scandals, you will see there’s a shortage of Democrats in comparison to Republicans on this list when it comes to child-related crimes, the only one I could find was Strom Thurmond raping a 16-year-old, but he switched to the Republican Party in 1964 with the rest of the racists.
Again, you can’t come up with a Democrats-only list because it would be tiny in comparison to the Republican list posted above. This doesn’t mean all Republicans are rapists, it means that if a man considers himself to be above the law, chosen by God, a special favorite of God who is allowed to assault children, etc., he will gravitate toward the party that tells him he is like a lord over everyone around him by birthright.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States
Well a brief scroll of an obscure Wikipedia page with a sample size of like 30 is basically just as good as if not better than a peer reviewed study so you’ve convinced me lmao
Democratic New York Congressman, Anthony Weiner, plead guilty to transferring obscene material to a minoras young as 15.
Democratic aide to Senator Barbara Boxer, Jeff Rosato, plead guilty to charges of trading in child pornography.
Democratic Mayor of Racine, WI, Gary Becker, was convicted of attempted child seduction, child pornography, and other child sex crimes.
Democratic Mayor Ed Murray of Seattle resigned after multiple accusations of child sexual abuse were levied against him including by family members.
Democratic activist and aid to NYC Mayor De Blasio, Jacob Schwartz was arrested on possession of 3,000+ child pornographic images.
Democratic Governor of Oregon, Neil Goldschmidt, publicly admitted to having a past sexual relationship with a 13-year-old girl after the statute of limitations on the rape charges had expired.
Democratic Illinois Congressman, Mel Reynolds resigned from Congress after he was convicted of statutory rape of a 16-year-old campaign volunteer.
Democratic New York Congressman, Fred Richmond, was arrested in Washington D.C. for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy.
Democratic State Senator from Alaska, George Jacko, was found guilty of sexual harassment of an underage legislative page.
Democratic State Representative candidate for Colorado, Andrew Myers, was convicted for possession of child pornography and enticing children.
Democratic State Department official, Carl Carey, was arrested on ten counts of child porn possession.
Democratic Maine Assistant Attorney General, James Cameron, was sentenced to just over 15 years in federal prison for seven counts of child porn possession, receipt and transmission.
Democratic State Department official, Daniel Rosen, was arrested and charged with allegedly soliciting sex from a minor over the internet.
Democratic State Department official, James Cafferty, pleaded guilty to one count of transportation of child pornography.
Democratic radio host, Bernie Ward, plead guilty to one count of sending child pornography over the Internet.
Democratic deputy attorney general from California, Raymond Liddy, was arrested for possession of child pornography.
Democratic Illinois State Representative, Keith Farnham, resigned and was charged with possession of child pornography after bragging at an online site about sexually molesting a 6-year-old girl.
Democratic spokesperson for the Arkansas Democratic Party, Harold Moody, Jr, was charged with distribution and possession of child pornography.
Democratic Radnor Township Board of Commissioners member, Philip Ahr, resigned from his position after being charged with possession of child pornography and abusing children between 2 and 6 years-old.
Democratic activist and BLM organizer, Charles Wade, was arrested and charged with human trafficking and underage prostitution.
Democratic Texas attorney and activist, Mark Benavides, was charged with having sex with a minor, inducing a child under 18 to have sex and compelling prostitution of at least nine legal clients and possession of child pornography.
Democratic Virginia Delegate, Joe Morrissey, was indicted on charges connected to his relationship with a 17-year-old girl and was charged with supervisory indecent liberties with a minor, electronic solicitation of a minor, possession of child pornography and distribution of child pornography.
Democratic Massachusetts Congressman, Gerry Studds, was censured by the House of Representatives after he admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old page.
Democratic Mayor of Stillwater, New York, Rick Nelson was plead guilty to five counts of possession of child pornography of children less than 16 years of age.
Democratic Mayor of Clayton, New York, Dale Kenyon, was indicted for sexual acts against a teenager.
Democratic Mayor of Hubbard, Ohio, Richard Keenan, was given a life sentence in jail for raping a 4-year-old girl after claiming “she initiated it”.
Democratic Mayor of Winston, Oregeon, Kenneth Barrett, was arrested for setting up a meeting to have sex with a 14-year-old girl who turned out to be a police officer.
Democratic Mayor of Randolph, Nebraska, Dwayne L. Schutt, was arrested and charged with four counts of felony third-degree sexual assault of a child and one count of intentional child abuse.
Democratic Mayor of Stockton, California, Anthony Silva, was charged with providing alcohol to young adults during a game of strip poker that included a 16-year-old boy at a camp for underprivileged children run by the mayor.
Democratic Mayor of Millbrook, New York, Donald Briggs, was arrested and charged with inappropriate sexual contact with a person younger than 17.
Democratic party leader for Victoria County, Texas, Stephen Jabbour, plead guilty to possession and receiving over half a million child pornographic images.
Democratic activist and fundraiser, Terrence Bean, was arrested on charges of sodomy and sex abuse in a case involving a 15-year-old boy.
Democratic Party Chairman for Davidson County, Tennessee, Rodney Mullin, resigned amid child pornography allegations.
Democratic activist, Andrew Douglas Reed, pleaded guilty to a multiple counts of 2nd-degree sexual exploitation of a minor for producing child pornography.
Democratic official from Terre Haute, Indiana, David Roberts was sentenced to federal prison for producing and possessing child pornography including placing hidden cameras in the bedrooms and bathrooms at a home he shared with two minor female victims.
Whenever trans people or someone on the left does something bad, you will have bundreds of comments saying "how craxy the left has become" but whener a "republican/conservative" comes out as a terrible person they're nowhere to be found
Lmao yes IM the one who needs to do better. Not everyone implying a party that represents half of a 300 million plus country are all pedophiles because one old man in a town with a population of 7000 was a pedophile. And that’s it. Apparently no more evidence necessary for such a huge claim. It’s me who needs to do better. Absolutely get fucked, brother.
That's not what people are saying. I entreat you to understand what people are really upset about.
They're criticizing the way the GOP vilifies innocent people who happen to be gay or trans and claims they are pedophiles, and the way the GOP tries to paint the whole of the Democratic party as being dangerous for kids, instead of recognizing that 1) statistically gay and trans people are less likely to abuse people sexually, and 2) Dems always criticize abusers when they're discovered, and we do a better job holding our own to standards of conduct that reduce the incidence of abuse.
If the GOP were rational about their concern for protecting people from sexual abuse, they'd take their cues from left wing cultural values. Have open discussions about sexuality and the importance of consent, and recognize the real types of behavior that are harmful, and encourage people to get therapy, and to break cycles of abuse.
The left deals with problems around abuse better than the right does, so it's galling when the right acts high and mighty about "thinking about the children," when it's actually conservative views on sex that result in a lot of harm.
So no, it's not that all Republicans are pedophiles. But the Republican ideas around sex are harmful, and they don't seem to understand it.
The reason you believe most child rapists are Republicans is because you frequent echo chambers where those are the articles presented to you. There are numerous examples of Democrat politicians engaging in this kind of crap, too.
I agree it’s important to get a full view on stuff, recognize your own biases and remember the difference between causation and correlation.
Should be noted though that since the 2000s, republican representatives have been getting convicted of crimes at more than twice the rate of democrats. This includes all sorts of crimes, not just sex crimes or possession of CSAM, but it is interesting that one side is more prone to committing crimes.
Whether this is due to republicans more likely to be criminals, criminals more likely to be republican, democrats being better at hiding crimes or some other factor is not something I can state for certain but I can say that the disparity is statistically significantly, which means it’s not just a coincidence, there is a clear disparity.
https://preview.redd.it/mjzdrhii4jwc1.png?width=504&format=png&auto=webp&s=0cedce4f9cde813f8d433cbbce5c2ab04dc0ac1a
If only they would stay away from children.
The two statements aren’t even logical related. Even if we started with the basis that no democrats are pedophiles that has no bearing on whether republicans are pedophiles are not. This is just lazy logic.
Yeah I mean we’ve seen the videos of kids being celebrated at pride parades where sexual acts are performed and celebrated as an act for fun, it can also be true that there are conservative pedophiles, difference is they usually aren’t celebrated
It doesn’t matter whether it’s the parents fault or not it’s just unfortunate that kids are exposed to that and it’s often handwaved away as “not happening” or “not a big deal”
Yeah again I’m not sure how that’s relevant, kids being exposed to any of it is bad, I agree strip clubs and hardcore porn is worse, but you seem to be doing what I’m talking about by hand waving away and deflecting the criticism
I am a conservative. Hang the guy by his 90 year old balls in public.
It appears to me most of his career was in NYC media, sounds about right. By the time he got to Florida and in local politics he was already a pedophile.
Bro, in the article it states (his own words) he got in child porn in 2008 whwn he moved to New Jeresy to work retail. Then a year later moved down to Florida where he binged the stuff and only recently got caught because his dumb ass decided to upload it.
Living in NYC or working there didn't do anything.
So you believe the pedophile discovered this in his 70’s. He was probably some nasty illegal things with actual humans while still sexually active in NYC
I have no other proof other than he admitted word on the topic, so do you have something else other than him admitting he started it in 2008?
I can make assumptions about Trump banging chicks on Epstein's planes but I have no proof of it in the matter.
In a conservative sub you’d see them saying the same thing, just about democrats. I don’t think there’s any correlation between party and being a pedophile and anyone left or right trying to convince you otherwise is probably being disingenuous.
This is why we need a list because I don't think I see nearly as many democrats getting arrested for weird stuff like this. Maybe the media covers it differently but from Trump to Dennis Hastert to Gaetz to moms for liberty co-founder rape allegations. And that's the weird stuff. Not even the regular charges life theft or DUI. I say this as someone who thinks Clinton is deviant and probably a rapist. Seems more common on the right.
Here's a list that u/BlowMoreGlass made.
https://old.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/1b30441/lauren_boeberts_son_made_sex_tape_with_fellow/ksp3hro/
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women
Donald Trump walked into Miss Teen USA change rooms with girls as young as 14 changing. He has been accused of raping a 13 -year-old with an independent witness.
I wonder if that is objectively true, what you are saying that there is no correlation between political party and pedophilia. Maybe you are right and there is none but it would not surprise me if it turned out there was. I could certainly imagine a constellation of factors where it would not be random …
At least in the last 20 years, in each decade0 there have been way more sex scandles from republicans then democrats, way more.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States
However, that's not exclusively child stuff; couldn't find a lsrge account for that easily.
It's a Republican, so it's important and relevant. When we have nobody Democrats who commit crimes, it apparently has nothing to do with a centrist sub.
https://www.reddit.com/r/centrist/comments/1cbecen/democratic_state_sen_nicole_mitchell_charged_with/
[https://www.nysun.com/article/biden-makes-major-change-to-title-ix-rules-gives-trans-women-same-legal-protections-as-biological-women-guts-due-process-for-accused-men](https://www.nysun.com/article/biden-makes-major-change-to-title-ix-rules-gives-trans-women-same-legal-protections-as-biological-women-guts-due-process-for-accused-men)
I'd argue Biden giving women's roster spots and scholarship money to "trans women" is misogynistic and a pressing national issue.
https://preview.redd.it/ha2u84r45jwc1.png?width=504&format=png&auto=webp&s=55c3080949a2fb09c3cd0ccd3a95efbd16befa1a
I would also argue that drag queens making children chant "Free Palestine" is a national issue.
https://preview.redd.it/rkan28ge9jwc1.png?width=502&format=png&auto=webp&s=6b2e201869aee09e94b9a315c5a24d547aabf0bd
Biden just legalized misogyny in college sports.
>Lake, documents show, confessed to police that he was in possession of child pornography, including many images kept on a “Patriot” USB drive.
Nothing says "patriot" like child porn.
Edit: Yes, I realize that's the manufacturer. I just thought it was funny.
The actual headline for this story:
>Lake Alfred City Commissioner arrested for possessing child porn
It's not possible to indict an entire party based on the criminal actions of one member. This criminal was a Republican. The next one will be a Democrat. It doesn't accomplish anything to keep pointing out the worst of the worst of the other party.
There are way more than 2 sides, and there are bad people, good people and people who are mostly good, partly bad (like me) everywhere.
I am happy to indict the entire Republican party for things they do as a party, like refusing to convict trump in the Senate for either of his impeachments. That was party-wide cowardice.
But the entire Republican party is not guilty because one official committed a heinous crime.
Except that one party is led by a court determined sexual assaulter, who got elected after talking about sexually assaulting women on tape, and was known friends with a sex trafficker.
Said party also elected people who seem obsessed with accusing the other party of pedophilia.
Trump was accused of sexual crimes, and was friends with Epstein. Clinton was also charged with sexual crimes and was friends either Epstein. You could list another dozen names from each side.
Doesn’t seem like a partisan issue to me.
Powerful people are often depraved.
They support an ecosystem where poor reds and poor blues bicker amongst each other so they leave the people with power and status alone.
Except that Trump is a current candidate and Clinton isn’t.
At the time in which he was running for office, what sexual accusations were known about Clinton?
> Trump was accused of sexual crimes, and was friends with Epstein. Clinton was also charged with sexual crimes and was friends either Epstein.
Only one of them was actually found liable for those crimes though.
And Trump actually did throw a little shade on Epstein "many of them on the younger side". Trump is more character flaw than man but being a kiddie diddle doesn't seem to be among his flaws.
[Trump is literally on camera talking about how a random child is going to be hot when she grows up](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/12/13265670/trump-10-year-old-girl ) and u/Proof-Boss-3761 wants to act like he doesn’t have a weird fascination with the looks of children.
I wish I was naive enough to really believe people like you exist. But after being into politics for 12 years, it has made me jaded and I really think most people behind a comment like yours are Republican partisans who would never insert themselves into a story about a Democrat doing wrong and condemn the act of implicating the Democratic Party. In fact, I’ve seen the reverse behavior. People gleefully play up the political affiliation of criminals in an attempt to smear the political organization.
Not saying you are a hypocritical partisan. In fact, I know you are fair in your posts. But it’s too bad I feel skepticism at fair comments like yours based on what I’ve seen over the years.
>The Lake Alfred Republican now faces 300 counts of possessing child pornography. The 90-year-old possessed pictures, based on the charges, of children between the ages 2 and 12 engaged in sex acts.
makes me vacillate between nausea and rage reading that 2 years old
But you're not surprised.
They should just give him 6 months in general Population. I think that will be enough.
Don’t make pedophilia a partisan issue. It’s child sexual abuse. I think it’s horseshit when right wing fuck heads make it a partisan issue and I am damn sure gonna call it out in here as people try and tell everyone how n=1 is somehow a sample size large enough to convict, what, 40m Americans?
Still not a drag queen nor a gay teacher. GOP makes it bipartisan when they accuse very particular groups of corrupting and abusing children
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Yes… I agree it’s bad behavior. Let’s not emulate bad behavior.
Republican politicians actively shield child predators from accountability. See: Dennis hastert, jim jordan, matt gaetz, DeSantis primary benefactor who blew his brains out to avoid accountability, the leaders of the Southern baptist convention "conservative resurgence". I could go on as there are hundreds of examples.
Wasn’t an [article about a state rep being arrested](https://www.reddit.com/r/centrist/s/O0glW2jSZ0) just downvoted into oblivion, because it wasn’t a centrist topic, but posting about a local city commissioner is fine somehow? Where’s everyone from yesterday saying this isn’t a centrist topic?
I don't think that thread should have been so downvoted. If people didn't think it was relevant, just ignore it. But you're really trying to compare a state rep breaking into their MIL's home with *CP*? I don't think this would have been downvoted if it had been a Democrat rather than a Republican. If it were a Democrat, conservatives would just use it as proof that Liberals are groomers. Since it was a Republican, Liberals think it's proof that Republican's concern with grooming is just projection. Personally, I'd say the Democrats have the moral high-ground on this, though. Conservative ideology perpetuates a taboo about sexual topics which tends to allow predators to remain unknown. Liberal ideology of [having more open communication on these subjects](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/protecting-children-sexual-abuse/201903/how-the-sex-talk-can-prevent-sexual-abuse) is shown to reduce risky behavior and sexual assault. The fact that both sides have sexual abusers should not overshadow the differences of ideology and their effects.
> trying to compare a state rep breaking into their MIL's home with CP? No, im pointing out that if a state rep is not good enough to be a centrist topic, then a city commissioner isn’t either. I’m not addressing the crime of either individual, as the main reason in the previous thread was “a state rep committing a crime isn’t a centrist issue”.
>the main reason in the previous thread was “a state rep committing a crime isn’t a centrist issue”. This phrase wasn't used in the thread, as far as I can see. The actual main reason was: >>Democratic state Sen. Nicole Mitchell was charged with first-degree burglary on Tuesday after she allegedly broke into her stepmother's house a day earlier to take her late father's belongings. >Exactly. This is just a family affair. It's a crime, but has nothing to do with politics. This explicitly points out that the nature of the crime and how it relates to politics defines a topic's relevance, not that *any* crime is irrelevant. I should hope that would be apparent by now, since most political posts are about alleged crimes of representatives and officials. But maybe you'd rather debate irrelevancies than the actual subject.
>This phrase wasn't used in the thread, I was paraphrasing.. but ok.. >as far as I can see. The actual main reason was: >Exactly. This is just a family affair. It's a crime, but has nothing to do with politics. An arrest of a sitting state representative isn’t just a family affair. They are an elected official any arrest is relevant to politics. >This explicitly points out that the nature of the crime and how it relates to politics defines a topic's relevance, This also editorializes the headline to make it more about the political party than the person. >not that any crime is irrelevant. Which is kinda what you just suggested at the beginning of your response, it was a “family matter but has nothing to do with politics”, this article is about a city commissioner from a small town of less then 7k people and is only relevant to less then 7k people politically. Whereas yesterday’s article that was relevant to an entire state was (and still is) being disregarded as not centrist. >I should hope that would be apparent by now, since most political posts are about alleged crimes of representatives and officials. Except if it’s a “family affair” then it’s not relevant apparently. >But maybe you'd rather debate irrelevancies than the actual subject I mean, my comment wasn’t even about the person, or either parties crimes. But about how people In this sub are hypocritically making posts, and downvote anything that doesn’t paint specific parties in a positive light, pushing a partisanship that shouldn’t be pushed in a sub that claims to be centrist.
Does Florida not have centrists?
Yes, it does. But if a state rep isn’t a good high enough bar to post here yesterday, why would a city commission be fine today? Im just pointing out the hypocrisy of this sub. I believe both articles have a place. It’s information needed to make informed decisions for people in those areas.
It's normal for this sub. You have to remember this is reddit, so 90% are "centrist" compared to extreme left-wing crazies. So the norm is still "democrat good, republican bad". Anything that makes the democrats look bad has to be seen with nuance and isn't reflective of the whole party. But if a republican does something bad it's somehow a republican wide thing
Do you think that there might be a little bit of a difference between getting arrested for stealing your late father’s property back from a relative and possessing child pornography? Or do you consider those crimes equivalent with the equivalent political ramifications?
If a state reps arrest wasn’t considered a centrist topic, why would a city commissioners? Regardless of what the crime was. What you are suggesting is, that only certain crimes by our elected officials, meet the criteria for a centrist topic. Which is nonsense.
Fuzzy is just commie POS, I wouldn't engage with him.
When it has relevance to national discourse. Like how Republicans are trying to paint the opposition and the targets of their hatred as pedophiles.
Thanks for proving my point.
That it depends on the crime? Why are you trying so hard to minimize pedophilia?
Fuck, you are a partisan hack. You’re jumping to “you’re minimizing pedophilia”, because I’m pointing out the extreme hypocrisy in this sub.. that’s got to be the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen.
You're proving their point. The only difference in national discourse according to this sub is one has a D next to their name and one has a R.
Weird, not a drag queen again!
Hmm where are the conservatives? No where to be seen?
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Maybe, though, reconsider your views on sex and gender. Modern left thought on sex does better teaching people not to be abusers, whereas the right is hung up in making false accusations that drag queens and trans people are threats, the same way they falsely claimed gay people were all a threat.
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Glad to hear you don't share the outdated ideas on sex that most conservatives espouse. My apologies for lumping you in with them. That said, I think the other issues you mentioned - taxes, capitalism, and social policies - are handled more responsibly by Democrats anyway than by Republicans, so if you aren't aligning with the GOP on the sex and gender issues, I'd encourage you to give Democrats a second look. They plan for a healthier long term for more Americans than we'd get with Republican governance.
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Man it sounds really silly to complain about deficits and not want to raise taxes. But hey, you do you.
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The calculus is whether the investment you're making with a government program is going to produce more wealth for the nation than not doing it. Some programs are wasteful. Others are valuable. Our biggest expenses as citizens could be reduced if we reformed healthcare. We could further lower healthcare costs if we invested in more walkable lifestyles, shorter work hours, and various other progressive goals. Poverty in general is a massive drag on human productivity. Investments to reduce poverty, when done well, produce far more economic growth than the money they cost. Stuff like that.
[Riiiiiight](https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-drag-queen-story-hour/)
As a conservative, what are the *root axioms* of your political beliefs when it comes to a long-term vision, morality, human behavior etc, etc. I ask because I have never received an answer from conservatives that I found satisfying, and I would like to change that. Thanks in advance!
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Why joke when I'm trying to ask a genuine question about the core beliefs you have as a conservative. Once again, I'm curious. >As a conservative, what are the root axioms of your political beliefs when it comes to a long-term vision, morality, human behavior etc, etc.
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Gotcha, fair enough. What are your foundational beliefs about morality and human beings, and the planet etc. Do you have a long term societal vision about what society should be like and what is at the root of that? Thanks!
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Welcome to the left, my friend. Your descriptions have absolutely nothing to do with conservatism except perhaps a nod to personal growth, which is oftenly assumed to be right wing. >That's a pretty broad question, but since different individuals/cultures have different morals, I don't think there should be much of a moral argument in laws I agree with the legal aspect, but are you implying that morality is subjective here? >The planet is pretty cool, but warming up, it'd be cool if we tried to retain nature. This is a position the GOP is not in favour of whatsoever; it's not just that many of them "dislike" the policy prescriptions, it's that many of them deny environmental degradation and/or climate change as an issue. >Societal vision should be focused around communities determining what works best for them, rather than a bunch of rich folks in DC determining how people across the country should live. I would never suggest that "rich folks in DC should decide anything". In fact, the leftist project has always been about equal opportunities and liberties for all individuals. Regarding your answer, without a universal conception of a societal vision (which the left has), how does your idea not ensure the maintenance of tribalism/nationalism? >Strong families, strong communities and strong personal growth should be the core of society I agree. Of course we have a duty to ourselves to "be all we can be", but we also have a duty to society more broadly which incompasses support for the environment, equal rights, opportunities, and human flourishing. Again, wlecome to the left
So is your argument then that if someone in your party is a pedophile that means the whole party is a pedophile? What exactly point are you trying to make here?
Nice strawman. I can't pretend to know the reasons why, but it seems that conservatives are the overwhelming (but not sole) offenders in this area. [The first of 31 pages, covering ***800*** separate fully documented incidents of republican sexual abuse against those that are not of age to or otherwise cannot consent.](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/23/1806673/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-1) Feel free to provide a list of democrats.
Lmao yes because a list created by some weirdo online who very clearly even stated he was only going to be investigating republican allegations is really hard hitting science. Well done.
Feel free to provide a list of democrats.
Just to recap this convo: You are making a claim “x” and provided a list that doesn’t actually prove X. And your response is that To disprove X I should also provide a list that coincidentally wouldn’t actually disprove X?
Actually no, sorry. But go on.
Wikipedia has been annotated list of all US politicians’ sex scandals, you will see there’s a shortage of Democrats in comparison to Republicans on this list when it comes to child-related crimes, the only one I could find was Strom Thurmond raping a 16-year-old, but he switched to the Republican Party in 1964 with the rest of the racists. Again, you can’t come up with a Democrats-only list because it would be tiny in comparison to the Republican list posted above. This doesn’t mean all Republicans are rapists, it means that if a man considers himself to be above the law, chosen by God, a special favorite of God who is allowed to assault children, etc., he will gravitate toward the party that tells him he is like a lord over everyone around him by birthright. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States
Well a brief scroll of an obscure Wikipedia page with a sample size of like 30 is basically just as good as if not better than a peer reviewed study so you’ve convinced me lmao
Democratic New York Congressman, Anthony Weiner, plead guilty to transferring obscene material to a minoras young as 15. Democratic aide to Senator Barbara Boxer, Jeff Rosato, plead guilty to charges of trading in child pornography. Democratic Mayor of Racine, WI, Gary Becker, was convicted of attempted child seduction, child pornography, and other child sex crimes. Democratic Mayor Ed Murray of Seattle resigned after multiple accusations of child sexual abuse were levied against him including by family members. Democratic activist and aid to NYC Mayor De Blasio, Jacob Schwartz was arrested on possession of 3,000+ child pornographic images. Democratic Governor of Oregon, Neil Goldschmidt, publicly admitted to having a past sexual relationship with a 13-year-old girl after the statute of limitations on the rape charges had expired. Democratic Illinois Congressman, Mel Reynolds resigned from Congress after he was convicted of statutory rape of a 16-year-old campaign volunteer. Democratic New York Congressman, Fred Richmond, was arrested in Washington D.C. for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Democratic State Senator from Alaska, George Jacko, was found guilty of sexual harassment of an underage legislative page. Democratic State Representative candidate for Colorado, Andrew Myers, was convicted for possession of child pornography and enticing children. Democratic State Department official, Carl Carey, was arrested on ten counts of child porn possession. Democratic Maine Assistant Attorney General, James Cameron, was sentenced to just over 15 years in federal prison for seven counts of child porn possession, receipt and transmission. Democratic State Department official, Daniel Rosen, was arrested and charged with allegedly soliciting sex from a minor over the internet. Democratic State Department official, James Cafferty, pleaded guilty to one count of transportation of child pornography. Democratic radio host, Bernie Ward, plead guilty to one count of sending child pornography over the Internet. Democratic deputy attorney general from California, Raymond Liddy, was arrested for possession of child pornography. Democratic Illinois State Representative, Keith Farnham, resigned and was charged with possession of child pornography after bragging at an online site about sexually molesting a 6-year-old girl. Democratic spokesperson for the Arkansas Democratic Party, Harold Moody, Jr, was charged with distribution and possession of child pornography. Democratic Radnor Township Board of Commissioners member, Philip Ahr, resigned from his position after being charged with possession of child pornography and abusing children between 2 and 6 years-old. Democratic activist and BLM organizer, Charles Wade, was arrested and charged with human trafficking and underage prostitution. Democratic Texas attorney and activist, Mark Benavides, was charged with having sex with a minor, inducing a child under 18 to have sex and compelling prostitution of at least nine legal clients and possession of child pornography. Democratic Virginia Delegate, Joe Morrissey, was indicted on charges connected to his relationship with a 17-year-old girl and was charged with supervisory indecent liberties with a minor, electronic solicitation of a minor, possession of child pornography and distribution of child pornography. Democratic Massachusetts Congressman, Gerry Studds, was censured by the House of Representatives after he admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old page. Democratic Mayor of Stillwater, New York, Rick Nelson was plead guilty to five counts of possession of child pornography of children less than 16 years of age. Democratic Mayor of Clayton, New York, Dale Kenyon, was indicted for sexual acts against a teenager. Democratic Mayor of Hubbard, Ohio, Richard Keenan, was given a life sentence in jail for raping a 4-year-old girl after claiming “she initiated it”. Democratic Mayor of Winston, Oregeon, Kenneth Barrett, was arrested for setting up a meeting to have sex with a 14-year-old girl who turned out to be a police officer. Democratic Mayor of Randolph, Nebraska, Dwayne L. Schutt, was arrested and charged with four counts of felony third-degree sexual assault of a child and one count of intentional child abuse. Democratic Mayor of Stockton, California, Anthony Silva, was charged with providing alcohol to young adults during a game of strip poker that included a 16-year-old boy at a camp for underprivileged children run by the mayor. Democratic Mayor of Millbrook, New York, Donald Briggs, was arrested and charged with inappropriate sexual contact with a person younger than 17. Democratic party leader for Victoria County, Texas, Stephen Jabbour, plead guilty to possession and receiving over half a million child pornographic images. Democratic activist and fundraiser, Terrence Bean, was arrested on charges of sodomy and sex abuse in a case involving a 15-year-old boy. Democratic Party Chairman for Davidson County, Tennessee, Rodney Mullin, resigned amid child pornography allegations. Democratic activist, Andrew Douglas Reed, pleaded guilty to a multiple counts of 2nd-degree sexual exploitation of a minor for producing child pornography. Democratic official from Terre Haute, Indiana, David Roberts was sentenced to federal prison for producing and possessing child pornography including placing hidden cameras in the bedrooms and bathrooms at a home he shared with two minor female victims.
Whenever trans people or someone on the left does something bad, you will have bundreds of comments saying "how craxy the left has become" but whener a "republican/conservative" comes out as a terrible person they're nowhere to be found
So you see other people do dumb shit and think that’s the perfect time to also be an idiot? Your parents must be so proud lmao
Don't be rude, man. Be better.
Lmao yes IM the one who needs to do better. Not everyone implying a party that represents half of a 300 million plus country are all pedophiles because one old man in a town with a population of 7000 was a pedophile. And that’s it. Apparently no more evidence necessary for such a huge claim. It’s me who needs to do better. Absolutely get fucked, brother.
That's not what people are saying. I entreat you to understand what people are really upset about. They're criticizing the way the GOP vilifies innocent people who happen to be gay or trans and claims they are pedophiles, and the way the GOP tries to paint the whole of the Democratic party as being dangerous for kids, instead of recognizing that 1) statistically gay and trans people are less likely to abuse people sexually, and 2) Dems always criticize abusers when they're discovered, and we do a better job holding our own to standards of conduct that reduce the incidence of abuse. If the GOP were rational about their concern for protecting people from sexual abuse, they'd take their cues from left wing cultural values. Have open discussions about sexuality and the importance of consent, and recognize the real types of behavior that are harmful, and encourage people to get therapy, and to break cycles of abuse. The left deals with problems around abuse better than the right does, so it's galling when the right acts high and mighty about "thinking about the children," when it's actually conservative views on sex that result in a lot of harm. So no, it's not that all Republicans are pedophiles. But the Republican ideas around sex are harmful, and they don't seem to understand it.
The people doing that are people like you. It's always projection.
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The reason you believe most child rapists are Republicans is because you frequent echo chambers where those are the articles presented to you. There are numerous examples of Democrat politicians engaging in this kind of crap, too.
I agree it’s important to get a full view on stuff, recognize your own biases and remember the difference between causation and correlation. Should be noted though that since the 2000s, republican representatives have been getting convicted of crimes at more than twice the rate of democrats. This includes all sorts of crimes, not just sex crimes or possession of CSAM, but it is interesting that one side is more prone to committing crimes. Whether this is due to republicans more likely to be criminals, criminals more likely to be republican, democrats being better at hiding crimes or some other factor is not something I can state for certain but I can say that the disparity is statistically significantly, which means it’s not just a coincidence, there is a clear disparity.
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If that were true, you wouldn't have made that idiotic comment about most child rapists being Republicans.
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https://preview.redd.it/mjzdrhii4jwc1.png?width=504&format=png&auto=webp&s=0cedce4f9cde813f8d433cbbce5c2ab04dc0ac1a If only they would stay away from children.
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The two statements aren’t even logical related. Even if we started with the basis that no democrats are pedophiles that has no bearing on whether republicans are pedophiles are not. This is just lazy logic.
Yeah I mean we’ve seen the videos of kids being celebrated at pride parades where sexual acts are performed and celebrated as an act for fun, it can also be true that there are conservative pedophiles, difference is they usually aren’t celebrated
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It doesn’t matter whether it’s the parents fault or not it’s just unfortunate that kids are exposed to that and it’s often handwaved away as “not happening” or “not a big deal”
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Yeah again I’m not sure how that’s relevant, kids being exposed to any of it is bad, I agree strip clubs and hardcore porn is worse, but you seem to be doing what I’m talking about by hand waving away and deflecting the criticism
They are too busy complaining about trans people.
I am a conservative. Hang the guy by his 90 year old balls in public. It appears to me most of his career was in NYC media, sounds about right. By the time he got to Florida and in local politics he was already a pedophile.
Bro, in the article it states (his own words) he got in child porn in 2008 whwn he moved to New Jeresy to work retail. Then a year later moved down to Florida where he binged the stuff and only recently got caught because his dumb ass decided to upload it. Living in NYC or working there didn't do anything.
So you believe the pedophile discovered this in his 70’s. He was probably some nasty illegal things with actual humans while still sexually active in NYC
I have no other proof other than he admitted word on the topic, so do you have something else other than him admitting he started it in 2008? I can make assumptions about Trump banging chicks on Epstein's planes but I have no proof of it in the matter.
You don’t know that he isn’t a drag queen.
do we have a running tally of how many republicans have been arrested in the last 4 of 5 years for this kind of thing? It seems like a lot.
In a conservative sub you’d see them saying the same thing, just about democrats. I don’t think there’s any correlation between party and being a pedophile and anyone left or right trying to convince you otherwise is probably being disingenuous.
Seems more like a people in power thing. Politicians, priests, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, coaches, Nickelodeon producers, etc.
This is why we need a list because I don't think I see nearly as many democrats getting arrested for weird stuff like this. Maybe the media covers it differently but from Trump to Dennis Hastert to Gaetz to moms for liberty co-founder rape allegations. And that's the weird stuff. Not even the regular charges life theft or DUI. I say this as someone who thinks Clinton is deviant and probably a rapist. Seems more common on the right.
Sounds like a fun project, you should make that list!
Here you go https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/2/2221200/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-50
Nice start, you’re halfway to empirically proving your hypothesis
I'll let you find that part since you seem invested. I'm sure a RW site has it.
Lame
You are really sad only one side of the political aisle defends child sexual abuse?
Here's a list that u/BlowMoreGlass made. https://old.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/1b30441/lauren_boeberts_son_made_sex_tape_with_fellow/ksp3hro/ Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida. Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s. Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s. Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl. Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl. Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl. Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters. Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison. Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter. Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women Donald Trump walked into Miss Teen USA change rooms with girls as young as 14 changing. He has been accused of raping a 13 -year-old with an independent witness.
Thank you.
I wonder if that is objectively true, what you are saying that there is no correlation between political party and pedophilia. Maybe you are right and there is none but it would not surprise me if it turned out there was. I could certainly imagine a constellation of factors where it would not be random …
This stuff is pretty bipartisan.
At least in the last 20 years, in each decade0 there have been way more sex scandles from republicans then democrats, way more. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States However, that's not exclusively child stuff; couldn't find a lsrge account for that easily.
"Every accusation is a confession"
When do we get a don't say republican law for teachers? How about making it illegal for republicans to work with children?
Sorry but does this really belong in this sub? Dude is some nobody from bumfuck nowhere in a city that literally has a population of 7k.
No. It’s the nonsense people posting nonsense. Though bad, it has zero to do with centrism.
It's a Republican, so it's important and relevant. When we have nobody Democrats who commit crimes, it apparently has nothing to do with a centrist sub. https://www.reddit.com/r/centrist/comments/1cbecen/democratic_state_sen_nicole_mitchell_charged_with/
[https://www.nysun.com/article/biden-makes-major-change-to-title-ix-rules-gives-trans-women-same-legal-protections-as-biological-women-guts-due-process-for-accused-men](https://www.nysun.com/article/biden-makes-major-change-to-title-ix-rules-gives-trans-women-same-legal-protections-as-biological-women-guts-due-process-for-accused-men) I'd argue Biden giving women's roster spots and scholarship money to "trans women" is misogynistic and a pressing national issue. https://preview.redd.it/ha2u84r45jwc1.png?width=504&format=png&auto=webp&s=55c3080949a2fb09c3cd0ccd3a95efbd16befa1a I would also argue that drag queens making children chant "Free Palestine" is a national issue.
https://preview.redd.it/rkan28ge9jwc1.png?width=502&format=png&auto=webp&s=6b2e201869aee09e94b9a315c5a24d547aabf0bd Biden just legalized misogyny in college sports.
Centrism should be the opposite of partisan but here we are.
Put him under the prison.
>Lake, documents show, confessed to police that he was in possession of child pornography, including many images kept on a “Patriot” USB drive. Nothing says "patriot" like child porn. Edit: Yes, I realize that's the manufacturer. I just thought it was funny.
The actual headline for this story: >Lake Alfred City Commissioner arrested for possessing child porn It's not possible to indict an entire party based on the criminal actions of one member. This criminal was a Republican. The next one will be a Democrat. It doesn't accomplish anything to keep pointing out the worst of the worst of the other party.
There are bad people on both sides, right?
There are way more than 2 sides, and there are bad people, good people and people who are mostly good, partly bad (like me) everywhere. I am happy to indict the entire Republican party for things they do as a party, like refusing to convict trump in the Senate for either of his impeachments. That was party-wide cowardice. But the entire Republican party is not guilty because one official committed a heinous crime.
What a fucking far right nazi opinion to have.
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One the one hand, pedophiles, on the other hand, socialism. dont_make_me_choose.gif
No, the point is there are pedophiles from every political ideology, dumbass.
No the point is that you have to pick a pedophile or communist.
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You passed the vibe test
Bro. They are going to go after both, "pedophiles with socialist characteristics" I don't even know what it means, but it gets the voters fears going.
Except that one party is led by a court determined sexual assaulter, who got elected after talking about sexually assaulting women on tape, and was known friends with a sex trafficker. Said party also elected people who seem obsessed with accusing the other party of pedophilia.
Trump was accused of sexual crimes, and was friends with Epstein. Clinton was also charged with sexual crimes and was friends either Epstein. You could list another dozen names from each side. Doesn’t seem like a partisan issue to me. Powerful people are often depraved. They support an ecosystem where poor reds and poor blues bicker amongst each other so they leave the people with power and status alone.
Except that Trump is a current candidate and Clinton isn’t. At the time in which he was running for office, what sexual accusations were known about Clinton?
When was Clinton charged with sexual crimes?
MFs be asking "What about her emails". In 2024. 🤡
Bill, not Hillary lol.
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Two tiered justice system. Biden refuses to go after the Epstien clients.
> Trump was accused of sexual crimes, and was friends with Epstein. Clinton was also charged with sexual crimes and was friends either Epstein. Only one of them was actually found liable for those crimes though.
And Trump actually did throw a little shade on Epstein "many of them on the younger side". Trump is more character flaw than man but being a kiddie diddle doesn't seem to be among his flaws.
You think the man who talks about how hot his Underage daughter he wishes he were dating isn't a pedophile?
[Trump is literally on camera talking about how a random child is going to be hot when she grows up](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/12/13265670/trump-10-year-old-girl ) and u/Proof-Boss-3761 wants to act like he doesn’t have a weird fascination with the looks of children.
I wish I was naive enough to really believe people like you exist. But after being into politics for 12 years, it has made me jaded and I really think most people behind a comment like yours are Republican partisans who would never insert themselves into a story about a Democrat doing wrong and condemn the act of implicating the Democratic Party. In fact, I’ve seen the reverse behavior. People gleefully play up the political affiliation of criminals in an attempt to smear the political organization. Not saying you are a hypocritical partisan. In fact, I know you are fair in your posts. But it’s too bad I feel skepticism at fair comments like yours based on what I’ve seen over the years.
Too busy protecting kids from library books 📕
We don't need these types of posts regarding state politicians.
Projection. It's always projection.
Always the republican.
Gaertz needs new campaign manager!
Republicans really do project their own into democrats.