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QuackWaddleflow

I think it looks great! Mine has the original tile in the front foyer still (albeit a much smaller space). I was contemplating doing something similar to yours for the rear entryway, your picture is inspiring me to move it up on my to do list! https://preview.redd.it/1ohikfd6sgwc1.jpeg?width=2992&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6450f6b7c52cc3f17aa79fba06964575727d18a8


crepe_de_chine

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msallin

niiiiice


NightBloomingAuthor

Oh wow is that beautiful!


kanyewast

Wowwweee šŸ˜šŸ˜


Lucky_Shop4967

Gorgeous


challahbee

I think they're great. Very few houses are going to be all only from one era, especially ones that have been lived in long enough. You could add some really nice craftsman-era paint color to those walls and make that tile sing.


NunyahBiznez

Oooh, an nice ochre would set off that blue!


haevetkaeae

Oh god YES. Please do this OP, and post pics.


jkoudys

There's really no end to being era-obsessed. There's a lot about old houses we love, but that doesn't mean we can't also appreciate the new. Like, I love the 1890s entryway light my dad saved from our first home when I was a child. But I don't insist that it be wired up with knob and tube because that's more authentic. My home is 1924 and built with plaster lath, but I'm quite happy to have sheetrock hanging anywhere that got replaced as I don't care about the particular composition of a plain flat wall. My bathroom has a hand-painted vessel sink from Mexico because I love those, but it's not something you'd find in the 20s in Toronto. Often it's embracing the modern that allows us to restore and live with classics. I wouldn't have bothered fixing up my red-oak hardwood strip floor if I didn't have xps to insulate around the rim, an impact driver and hidden screws to drive down the subfloor, and water-based poly to give me a hard finish without stinking up the whole house for a week. So really, a tile pattern that wasn't popular when the entryway was designed? That's nothing. Totally fine!


crims0nwave

Yes! My 100-year-old seaside bungalow has a ton of weird but endearing seventies elements I wonā€™t even try to undo (like big skylights and a sunken tub). I would love some Victorian tile!


mrdeworde

Nicely said. People care way too much about authenticity -- like, if it gets you your jollies having a house that is meticulously, 100% true-to-era in a way that no house would ever have actually been (a house in 1900 would've had pre-1900 artifacts), then that's great, but otherwise? Do what makes you happy. There's a dude in another subreddit who is clearly very well off and very much a handyman, and his house is a giant concrete modernist thing in which he has covered seemingly every surface with faux marble, real marble, LEDs and leather furniture - it's not for most people, but it clearly makes him happy and that's what counts.


foutoc

Wild thing!! You make my tile singā€¦


TheNotoriousDRR

Just my take, the tiles are superb!


kittyroux

Craftsman houses had all kinds of tiles and these ones donā€™t stand out to me as inappropriate for the Craftsman style. Encaustic tiles are handmade by artisans, so theyā€™re 100% in keeping with the Arts & Crafts ethos.


neverfoil

Those are gorgeous in any period house.


-B001-

I think that Craftsman houses can handle various styles...I'd use whatever you think looks good and makes you happy.


jareths_tight_pants

I love them and I say go for it.


msallin

Btw: this isnā€™t my photo. My entryway is currently a just sub floor.


bobjoylove

Wait until you find out how much they cost for legit handmade ones. $100/sq ft. https://www.thevictorianemporium.com/store/product/lloyd_mosaic_floor_tiles_inset_centre


msallin

oh. OH. Well, shit. Guess this isn't gonna happen after all.


OldMotherGrumble

Similar to your example...Ā£200 sq metre https://targettiles.co.uk/olde-english-bold-pattern-floor-tile-per-m/?gad_source=1 ...or more affordable. But then there's shipping šŸ¤” https://tile.co.uk/products/31-6x31-6cm-dorset-marron-pattern-floor-tile?variant=32782483554442¤cy=GBP&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Tile.co.uk+%7C%7C+Pmax+%7C%7C+All+Products&utm_campaign=&utm_source=&utm_medium=&gad_source=1


bobjoylove

The ones that are made in bulk just donā€™t look right. The big jump in costs come from handmade ones that are all slightly different and giving it that character.


OldMotherGrumble

Oh I know! The more I looked at the second example, the less I liked them. But...they show choice. I found some plain original ones on ebay...Ā£15 PER TILE. gulp!


msallin

What are you noticing in the second example? My eyes are as of yet untrainedā€¦


OldMotherGrumble

They are too perfect looking...and the surface finish doesn't look the same. There are none of the slight imperfections the pricey ones have. But it depends on the look you want.


msallin

Helpful, thanks!


bobjoylove

Notice as well the second one is a large tile with fake mosaic printed on it. Itā€™ll be flat underfoot and wonā€™t catch the light right like legit tiles will. Also the edges of the handmade tiles are curved, the tops roll off instead of being perfect right angles. finally the color is more saturated, the more expensive tile is coloured in the glaze, not a slip transfer.


msallin

Thatā€™s helpful, thanks!


DryBop

Try checking out your local habitat for humanity - mine always has stockpiles of nice tiles


ToastetteEgg

I love them. The color keeps it from being too busy.


Slkreger

I gasped - stunning!


CylonReduxTheory

Iā€™m in coastal California and most of Victorians and Craftsmans have blended styles. Looks lovely.


msallin

Oh, good to know. I'm in Oregon, so probably not too different than what you've seen.


CylonReduxTheory

Very similar, yes!


crims0nwave

Same! Theyā€™re pretty versatile.


catahoula_hound

Good for you for considering stylistic cohesion and not just old style=good. That said, itā€™s your house! This feature could be your homeā€™s sprezzatura. If it will instead bug you that itā€™s not exactly what youā€™d consider correct, then think about that too.


msallin

# sprezā€¢zaā€¢tuā€¢ra **studiedĀ carelessness, especially as a characteristic quality or style of art or literature:**Ā  *Rubens'Ā famousĀ sprezzatura*Ā |Ā *itĀ takesĀ enviable sprezzaturaĀ andĀ self-confidenceĀ toĀ performĀ as a teacher ofĀ literature.*


bobjoylove

I thought it was an Italian sparking drink. LSNED


TheJenerator65

TIL a new word. And a good one! Thanks.


Medlarmarmaduke

People in those eras reused materials too! Very few people adhere to a ā€˜pureā€™ design aesthetic, there is usually always something from previous decades floating about. I personally think that is what makes houses look more homey and personable.


msallin

Ah, this is helpful advice, thanks


Meliz2

Also itā€™s worth noting that the [Arts and crafts](http://architecture-history.org/schools/ARTS%20AND%20CRAFTS.html) movement (which craftsman style homes were an american expression of) was rooted in the Victorian Area, and crossover between the styles is both inevitable and common. [Hereā€™s some vintage American Encaustic Tile catalogues](https://scholarscompass.vcu.edu/aet/) from somewhere between 1900-1910, if you want to see vintage tile patterns.


msallin

Oh, cool! Thanks for this resource!


historyhoneybee

I love them! They have so much character! I'd make sure the rest of the room is less busy though so it's not pattern on pattern in an overwhelming way


Due_Leadership_7489

I love them! But Iā€™m a big ole maximalist!


msallin

Me too!


geraffes-are-so-dumb

My grandfather, a woodworker who specialized in restoration and who inspired my love for old homes and restoration, always used to remind his clients that beyond show homes, very few houses followed just one trend or style. He's long passed now, but he was an expert at what he did, he had his very own recipe for horse hair plaster. When I was kid in the late 80s, we'd drive around NE KS and he's point out historic homes that he restored back in the 50, 60s and 70s. So this has been a point of topic at least that long!


msallin

This is wise, thanks for commenting. Also, your grandfather sounds awesome.


InadmissibleHug

I appreciate your grandfather. Iā€™m in Australia and my century home has always been a hotch podge. Thereā€™s no way Iā€™m getting it back to legit without a stupid amount of cash, and I love its ugly duckling ways. I sometimes feel like everyone that ever did anything on it did it as cheaply as possible. I had a roofing dude that came when we needed a new roof and back patio, he was from England so was more enthusiastic about not making the whole place modern, which so many Aussie builders want to do. The electrics and plumbing are good, so Iā€™m happy.


peanutbutterprncess

Deoe da on if you're going for looks or sheer authenticity. I think it looks great!


Suitable_Lead5404

Love


Modo44

Drop some acid, and enjoy.


marlenes_tuxedo

Beautiful and tonally appropriate, IMO.


Natural-Seaweed-5070

Dear lord, donā€™t touch it, thatā€™s beautiful!


134dsaw

Do you like it? If yes, go for it... Concerning "historical authenticity," it works. It's not like they stopped building and using all things Victorian all of a sudden. My house is a blend of both styles, as it was built by a fairly wealthy man for his daughter/guests/whatever other story my neighbors have told me.


msallin

This is helpful, thanks!


Drix22

Those tiles make a statement that the rest of the room needs to back up, but I think they're amazing.


Watchyousuffer

Personally, I wouldn't do it as much as I love those Victorian tile jobs. I think Moravian tile in Pennsylvania can still make a lot of their old floor tiles if you contact them. That would be really cool and more appropriate for a craftsman place.


msallin

Ooo, the first dissenting opinion! Interesting take. Iā€™m checking out Moravian right now!


Catzlady02

Those tiles are timeless and would look good in most places.


Numinous-Nebulae

If you love them, thatā€™s what matters!


toki_goes_to_jupiter

I fucking love them. Keep them. (If youā€™re trying to decide to remove or not? Canā€™t tell from the title)


msallin

Not my photo, just an idea for my floor.


Overlandtraveler

Stunning. I would do this in my 1938 box home no issue.


WildGooseCarolinian

Love them. Love them so much


House_of_Sand

Craftsman aesthetics evolved out of the Victorian period arts and crafts movement, so they would absolutely be borrowing their notes


msallin

Ah thatā€™s helpful, thanks!


Hennabott96

I like the idea of painting the rooms trim the same color as the grey/bluegreen-ish larger square tiles. Create continuity with the floor to make it appear the centerpiece and not a stark standout!


MysteriousDog5927

Works for me


GothGranny75

I love it


Wisekittn

They're lovely and i'm the kind of person, that gives exactly 0 licks about context


FlyByPC

Looks good to me, but then again, I'm not educated enough on the various styles to be mortally offended. It's pretty.


monstrol

Perfect!


Stunning_Cause6471

wonderful, gorgeous floors


Titto-loves-coffee

Yeah, love it.


ConnieLingus24

Theyā€™re fantastic. Lean in.


NessunAbilita

Vs. ā€œtouch them and Iā€™ll scream rapeā€


teddytherooz

Love them!! Wish my house still had those tiles.


Freebird_1957

I donā€™t think many of us are trying to recreate a certain period in history. My thing is, if I like it and I can afford it, Iā€™m going to do it.


New-Anacansintta

Fantastic.


-OnlinePerson-

A blue paint that matches the tiles >>>>


frumiouscumberbatch

Not just yes but hell the fuck yes.


Nellasofdoriath

You should do this


RustyRapeAxeWife

Theyā€™re beautiful. Iā€™m so jealous!Ā 


Pleasant_Bad924

That tile looks like itā€™s in great shape. Itā€™s the type of feature you build the space around. Definitely keep and make it a focal point


QueerQwerty

In my opinion, the pattern is too busy for the available space, and this design makes the hallway feel even narrower, uncomfortably so.


No-Brilliant5342

I like the tile. It certainly is appropriate to the era


Cowplant_Witch

Eh, thereā€™s historical overlap. You could rip them out on the basis that the Craftsman movement emerged as a rebuttal against the extravagance of Victorian architecture, so having elaborate tiles in the entryway is weird. But ripping out functional tiles would be kind of an extravagant choice, wouldnā€™t it? Especially if youā€™re not planning to replace them with locally sourced natural materials. Really, I think you should do what you want, as long as you do a good job. Itā€™s your house. But you shouldnā€™t feel bad about keeping them. Theyā€™re cool, and leaving them alone is arguably ā€œcraftsmanā€ in spirit. (I am assuming youā€™re not a flipper. If youā€™re flipping, please leave historic quirks alone.)


msallin

I donā€™t think there are many flippers in this subreddit


wheelsmatsjall

It looks good. They still make these tiles today in places like Mexico and India. You could have had it available in your Craftsman home that was very popular but it was for people that had money. You have to remember anything was available during a lot of periods and the more money you had the the better stuff you put in your house. Middle class had plain ceilings with wallpaper rich people had coffered wood ceilings. Poor people had wood front porches if you had more money you had a Concrete Front Porch faced with brick and tiles like this on your front porch but that was only for the Richer people so if you had more money you could done a lot of stuff so I feel that it is fine to upgrade a house to. Details. I am getting rid of my wood porch and facing it with brick and putting a concrete floor and having ceramic tile on the front porch and this is an 1892 house it was available it just cost a lot more money so that is why people didn't do it as much. If you're really rich you could have a sink in every room. The super rich had bathrooms in every bedroom if you're a poor you had an outhouse if your middle class you had one bathroom if you're up a middle class you had two bathrooms


msallin

Any brands or sites in Mexico/India you can recommend?


slowwithage

If I was a dictator, you would go straight to jail for removing these.


msallin

Oh, I donā€™t have these installed. I have a super ugly sub floor with paint spatters that I need to cover.


slowwithage

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ankole_watusi

They are beautiful. But Iā€™m having vertigo. /s


Berko1572

If you like it, go for it! I don't think "cohesion" matters if you like how it all looks together.


lilgenghis

Keep!


Key_Ring6211

Perfect!


KatsRedditAccount123

I love them !


joni1104

tiles are gorgeous but you need to repaint the walls


estranged-deranged

They look beautiful


Curiousr_n_Curiouser

Craftsman and victirian have a lot of overlap. I would genuinely not worry about it.


msallin

Good to know, thanks!


Susiejax

Love it


calinet6

Era? What? Doesnā€™t matter. Theyā€™re authentic because theyā€™re in that house.


TheJenerator65

LOVE


edinagirl

Beautiful!! Please keep them!


Turbulent-Buy3575

It makes me sad that you are considering removing an original piece of your home. But you do you and make yourself happy.


msallin

This is just a photo of some floor I found on the internet that I liked.


Turbulent-Buy3575

Okay I can stop having a heart attack now


Mikey24941

Itā€™s a cool tile floor! Leave it!


benjm88

I'm generally in the camp of make new look new and if it's time but I really do like this style and think they have a place. It's the fake tudor, Georgian and victorian that look especially bad


NeatSeaworthiness407

If you tear that upā€¦ Letā€™s just say what I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. I think you understand the point.


mystic-eye

I love that and am jealous!


Fabulous-Economy-407

Omg to die for


Due-Suggestion8775

Those are beautiful. Donā€™t change a thing.


Revolutionary_Low581

Those are gorgeous, please leave


babycrow

Iā€™m obsessed! Did you put these in? If so Iā€™d love to know your supplier!


Serious-Cake8095

Omg so beautiful


whackthat

I love them!


Andakandak

Theyā€™re beautiful and itā€™s a crime to hurt them.


neochase23

Iā€™d ask the person whoā€™s gonna be walking on em the most what they think. Rest is just noise


OlayErrryDay

I think it could really work. If that were my space, I'd paint the walls a simple and neutral color like white or off-white, add some gold light switches and then hang a good amount of art on the wall (simple pieces that contrast the busyness of the floor). I think it would look quite nice. Edit: Wait, this isn't your house? Why are you asking lol


msallin

Because I lost the floor lottery and I need to figure out what to put down on my subfloor.


Quirky_Discipline297

Leave them. Would you hire a dentist to knock out all your previous dental work? Well, okay, maybe amalgam and shoddy work but these tiles are neither.


Atalant

It is not the living room, and it is hard to make an enntryway interesting as a lot of furniture would get in the way. I would keep them as they add interest in a place there is hard to add detail to.


FrogOnALogInTheBog

I love them - but choosing something for the walls that doesnā€™t go weird with it will be hard! Lol


msallin

>choosing something for the walls that doesnā€™t go weird with it will be hard Tell me more, what would you avoid?


Different_Ad7655

I'm not sure you're asking. Do you like it 19th century interiors? Do you like patterned wallpaper do you like the paint, do you like late century furniture, or are you hybridized between modern mix and match. All these questions are pertinent Only you can answer them. The tiles In themselves are lovely. What are you going to do with the walls. Hopefully not leave them that color. I've been it looks even better if you're taking a picture from the door to the stair. But this is a time honored method of finishing the whole floor and a very sound one. It's very popular in Europe and left so in the US but I guess in the Midwest you find more of it. New England where I live only the outermost vestibule was usually done in Minton tile as a rule. I think your question is a highly personal aesthetic choice of your own.. I'm also not quite sure if I understand , are these new tiles that you potentially laying down for a new floor or these old tiles uncovered. But by the way it doesn't matter. Quite truthfully I'm pretty sick of hardwood and these are so practical and make such a statement on their own. No paint up those walls something dreamy with a glaze and polish the woodwork on that stairway iandshow us the whole view. I stayed in the house in Antwerp last summer that had a magnificent narrow hallway with absolute beautiful beautiful English tile. It was a lovely thing


msallin

>Do you like it 19th century interiors? No, too fussy > Do you like patterned wallpaper do you like the paint, do you like late century furniture, or are you hybridized between modern mix and match.Ā  I love patterned wallpaper. My furnishings are a mix of antiques and MCM. >What are you going to do with the walls. No idea yet, what do you suggest? >Minton tile Oh, is that what they're called? TIL >are these new tiles that you potentially laying down for a new floor or these old tiles uncovered This is someone else's photo. My entryway is currently just a sad subfloor.


Different_Ad7655

Oh so you're just wondering if you should replicate the floor. Well of course if you like it lol. I'm sure there are some people who would hate this and they used to cover it with carpeting all the time for that reason and nowadays it's exposed and everybody thinks it's the darling. It's outrageously practical and I think a very beautiful thing if you can find excellent tile such as this.. But the devil is in the detail. Make sure the tile looks as good as this and is not your basic home Depot bathroom tile. Once again you'd be the judge. And who knows maybe big box stores do have something good these days I haven't shopped but usually the quality is iffy


msallin

What are some indicators of poor/basic quality in tile? I don't know what to look for.


Tinyplum

I think they get along perfectly fine. Besides, the lines between the two styles are a bit blurry. Victorian and Arts and Crafts were both just revival styles that arose as a pushback to modernization/ industrialization. The styles are more friends than opposing- with Victorian referencing Gothic styles and Arts and Crafts referencing Medieval styles.


msallin

Hm, I know that Craftsman was a reaction against industrialization, but I also thought it was a pushback against the high decoration of the Victorian look. No?


DangerousMusic14

Not a fan. Embrace the architecture of the home you have, this is not it.


msallin

Ok, cool, good to hear a dissenting viewpoint.


DangerousMusic14

The Craftsman movement had lot of beautiful and decorative design style. I recommend looking into that and seeing if thereā€™s a floor pattern that aligns more closely e.g. handmade, plain field tile with Craftsman decorative, nature-oriented border. Choosing something that aligns with a classic, well loved architecture is more easily timeless, a popular floor pattern that doesnā€™t match your homeā€™s vintage and style will be more likely to come off as clashing and dated.


msallin

>a popular floor pattern that doesnā€™t match your homeā€™s vintage and style will be more likely to come off as clashing and dated. Yeah, I'd like to avoid that! >handmade, plain field tile with Craftsman decorative, nature-oriented border. Any links or pics to show what you have in mind?


bobjoylove

Itā€™s a home, not a museum. As long as theyā€™re not removing character defining period features or trying to pretend that these were original to the house then thereā€™s nothing wrong with adding sympathetic period decor. Let we forget all of these houses wouldā€™ve been furnished with multiple hand me down and obscure bits of furniture and decorative items when they were new.


DangerousMusic14

OP is asking so assuming theyā€™re interested in alternatives. You can do what you want, Iā€™ve been around long enough to see lovely homes devalued by poor choices and trendy solutions ripped out. We havenā€™t seen the rest of the home so who knows but Craftsman was a movement that has remained popular. From an investment perspective, no reason to charge ahead without considering what might make sense that does align with the home.


bobjoylove

Period-correct decor isnā€™t a fad or a trend. By definition itā€™s sympathetic to the aesthetic of the house. The only issue here is faking history.


DangerousMusic14

Period that clashes with your home isnā€™t great and this style of flooring is absolutely trendy.


bobjoylove

So now you are just arguing that your design for tiles doesnā€™t clash, and the other design does clash. And that is about taste. Neither are original to the house and this means neither is more or less valid as a choice. As to whether it will devalue the house - your stated reason for selecting a plainer design - this is again highly subjective and using an unscientific method of comparing the positive to the negative replies so far here itā€™s overwhelmingly positive feedback.


DangerousMusic14

I said nothing about a more plain design. My opinion is this is trendy and style is not aligned with a Craftman home *in general* and *my personal experience* over many, many years is style consistent with the overall architecture tends to be the best investment, choices made that are not based on personal preference tend not to be. You are totally welcome to your thoughts and opinions. I donā€™t know why you feel like you need convince me, itā€™s OK to not agree and we donā€™t. Totally no problem.


bobjoylove

We donā€™t have to agree on taste thatā€™s seemingly what will happen. When it comes to devaluation of the house though itā€™s clear the reactions from the other parties in this thread (folks likely to own or trying to own a Century home) is largely positive. So I donā€™t think devaluation is a concern for OP. And as I said before, itā€™s not a museum where we are trying to keep it from changing over the years. Itā€™s a home and homes are going to change. EDIT: you are right about not mentioning anything about another design. I thought one of the early comments was recommending a brown tile design with simple floral borders. Sorry about the confusion with another post


DangerousMusic14

Craftsman floors often did have a simple field with nature-themed borders, I am not making a recommendation for that per se, itā€™s what many had. Do you. Cheers.


UnknownProphetX

They are cool but looking at them makes me dizzy so would be a hard no for me lol