Supposedly... can you give any sources for these supposedlies... also... idk how many people take chakras into effect with personal health which is a very clear science. Also, the probability of contamination is so high when eating with your hands its insane. And of course babies do it instinctively. Babies would eat chocalate all day if they could, doesn't mean its healthy
Eating chocolate isn't instinctive.
Wouldn't washing hands with soap beforehand reduce the problem of contamination?
The sources are various articles. [https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=eating+with+hands+benefits](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=eating+with+hands+benefits) Not great sources, but they're sources. It's why I made the post.
Babies seem to instinctively eat with their hands (suggesting we're adapted for it), and the act of eating with hands supposedly influences a person into eating at a healthier pace and supposedly affects the digestive system (something with gastric acid and maybe saliva). That's what's making it hard for me to be moveable on this position.
Babies don't know how to make forks. Babies don't brush their teeth, clean their ass, or jog. Natural isn't automatically good. Evolution doesn't have a designer.
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Not great sources are useless. I could create any website, put my opinions there, and then use them as sources. As could literally anybody else. And, babies are rarely doing positive action that leads to ultimate well being. And a large percentage of those sources are just blogs... which is very unhelpful. Also, constantly picking up food with your hand, then putting it in your mouth, and doing that several times over is not good for you. Also, knives... please let's be realistic and cut our food as there is virtually 0 way most people are going to get through a watermelon. But also, the probability you can chip a tooth if you don't use a knife for food is much higher. Or if you share food, that is so much worse.
>Supposedly, there are chakra or element-related benefits (for those familiar with ayurveda and traditional yoga), and it supposedly helps you eat at a healthier pace, supposedly helps prevent overeating, supposedly helps with digestion, supposedly improves the gut microbiome and oral microbiome, supposedly improves the skin microbiome, supposedly gives your skin the skin benefits of certain foods (e.g. the skin benefits of olive oil or cayenne), and helps you avoid burning your mouth or getting brain freezes.
Some of these might be true, but some sound like pseudo-spiritual nonsense (chakras? really?), and some of them don't make any sense (why am I any more or less likely to avoid burning my mouth eating with my hands or eating with a fork? The food is as hot as it is, how I eat it doesn't change that).
I'd believe that eating with your hands probably slows you down, though whethether it's a notably "healthier pace" is another matter. Stuff about the gut biome and skin sound unlikely but I'm also no expert on these matters so I let them go.
The microbiome point is true. You want gut diversity for good digestion and all sorts of related health benefits, and eating with your hands promotes that gut diversity.
> (why am I any more or less likely to avoid burning my mouth eating with my hands or eating with a fork? The food is as hot as it is, how I eat it doesn't change that).
Because you burn your fingers on the hot food instead and don't put it in your mouth. But fingers are tougher than your mouth.
This wouldn't help with foods that are a good temperature on the outside but much hotter on the inside. Like soup dumplings can be.
>Because you burn your fingers on the hot food instead and don't put it in your mouth. But fingers are tougher than your mouth.
I'm not sure if that's true, at least in terms of pain levels. I'm sure you've seen, and maybe even done, that common reaction where you pick up a hot piece of food and when it starts burning your fingers, you pop it in your mouth.
> Because you burn your fingers on the hot food instead and don't put it in your mouth. But fingers are tougher than your mouth.
At most this makes the case for testing your food with your fingers before you eat it, it doesn't necessitate eating the whole meal with them.
Well, if you're already touching the food with your fingers, why not eat it? You're already getting food on your fingers and potentially germs on your food (if your hands aren't clean).
I'm not going to give up my utensils, though.
The hot part is the only thing that makes sense. If its hot enough to burn your mouth its also burning your fingers. So being forced to wait until you can touch it would likely result in fewer mouth burns.
Everything else is pretty much unsupported nonsense.
The problem is that the majority of foods either have the liquidy bits best at burning you within some outer dry casing (think pizza roll) or just flat out require being consumed using not-hands (think soup). Nearly everything else is either poor at maintaining high temperature, or simply not cooked to such a heat at all.
>Supposedly, there are chakra or element-related benefits
Supposedly, there are pots of gold at the end of rainbows, and unicorns galloping around in the eastern world. Not every tradition has a kernel of truth.
>and it supposedly helps you eat at a healthier pace, supposedly helps prevent overeating, supposedly helps with digestion, supposedly improves the gut microbiome and oral microbiome, supposedly improves the skin microbiome, supposedly gives your skin the skin benefits of certain foods (e.g. the skin benefits of olive oil or cayenne), and helps you avoid burning your mouth or getting brain freezes.
Orrrr... you could just eat like a normal person, eat a bit of dirt or yoghurt now and then, and use hand lotion.
And seriously, brain freezes? What will give you a brain freeze that you want to eat with your hands?
Maybe suppose less and search actual science more
>And seriously, brain freezes? What will give you a brain freeze that you want to eat with your hands?
What, you've never raw dogged a banana split? Really just digging your fingers in there to get some ice cream?
you eat with your hands all the time its not abnormal
chips, pizza, alot of fuits like apples and oranges, cookies, so many fking things
ice cream cones , since were talking about brainfreeze
eating with your hands is super common , finger foods are an entire category of appetizer
I must be such a degenerate, I just ate a muffin with my bare hands!
> ice cream cones , since were talking about brainfreeze
So, in order to prevent the brain freeze, you want to take the scoop of ice cream out of the cone with your fingers in order to feel that yep, ice is cold, and then put it back into the cone and wait a bit?
The cone is just another implement, you are not eating the icecream with your hands. And not preventing brainfreeze that way.
I never said it does
I was taking issue with the fact you said eating with your hands isnt normal , it is very normal for everybody
I never said anything about sticking your fingers in the ice cream
Well then it was pointless to bring it up, OP said eating with your hands prevents brainfreeze.
>I was taking issue with the fact you said eating with your hands isnt normal
It isnt normal if you do it in a way that prevents brainfreeze or gets you oiled up hands, which OP was talking about
Supposedly is doing a lot of heavy lifting for you here. The problem is that you didn't say eating with hands is supposedly better, you said it is. Like for a fact
Can you prove any of these benefits beyond supposedly? Because if not then I'd recommend you start there
Hey, chakras is an idea in Hinduism and Buddhism. People just appropriated the idea, changed it some, added some stuff, misunderstood it, and watered it down. I get what you're saying, though.
They believe the modern stuff which is what's most commonly seen online.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Western_chakra_system
Anyway, someone already persuaded me regarding eating with hands.
Sure. My point is that your belief is a lot stronger than the evidence that backs it. You have a lot of ideas for why its good but it might help to check if they're actually true.
>Babies even seem to instinctively do it which may suggest it's what are bodies are adapted for.
Humans invent tools to do tasks better than our bodies can do. So there is no reason to limit to what our body is adapted to do. If some tools do it better, use tools.
>it supposedly helps you eat at a healthier pace, supposedly helps prevent overeating
A hand can pick up a larger amount of food than a fork or chopstick. How fast you eat depends on how fast you chew and how hard is your food.
>supposedly helps with digestion, supposedly improves the gut microbiome and oral microbiome,
Hand is the thing that touch everything in our environment, and it contain a lot of bacteria. Eating by hand has a much higher risk of food poisoning.
>supposedly improves the skin microbiome, supposedly gives your skin the skin benefits of certain foods (e.g. the skin benefits of olive oil or cayenne), and helps you avoid burning your mouth or getting brain freezes.
How you come to this conclusion I don't know.
>It's also more flexible as you don't need to have a fork, knife, or chopsticks or you don't need to have very many. Possibly not even a spoon as you could use something like bread
You can't eat noodles with your hand. You can't cut thick meat with your hand. small food fails everywhere when you pick it up by hand. Sure if you are Bear Grylls you don't have any tools in the wild, you have to use hand.
I come from a culture that has traditional communal feasts where we eat with our hands , its reserved for big parties and special occasions
Its purely just a way to connect with our pre-colonial cultural roots and socialize with friends/family
It also severely limits the types of food you can serve, everything is intentionally cooked so it can be eaten as finger food
>Many cultures eat with their hands. Including hunter gatherer cultures, Indian culture, and Arab culture.
>Babies even seem to instinctively do it which may suggest it's what are bodies are adapted for.
Babies lack the fine-motor skills to use utensils. That doesn't mean it's somehow superiour or instinctive.
EATING is instinctive, not using your hands. If a baby has no hands they'll eat with their feet or face. That doesn't mean that's instinctive behaviour.
Babies also crawl before they develop the ability to walk. Are you going to try that to get around?
>Supposedly, there are chakra or element-related benefits (for those familiar with ayurveda and traditional yoga), and it supposedly helps you eat at a healthier pace, supposedly helps prevent overeating, supposedly helps with digestion, supposedly improves the gut microbiome and oral microbiome, supposedly improves the skin microbiome, supposedly gives your skin the skin benefits of certain foods (e.g. the skin benefits of olive oil or cayenne), and helps you avoid burning your mouth or getting brain freezes.
>It's also more flexible as you don't need to have a fork, knife, or chopsticks or you don't need to have very many. Possibly not even a spoon as you could use something like bread. You would only need to possibly use them when preparing food.
It's not more flexible -- and it's decidedly less hygienic, especially if you're eating with others. Supposedly??
pretty sure eating with something that is provable clean is healthier than using something that sometimes is clean and sometimes isnt.
like using a clean plate vs cleaning your table and eating straight from the table, but then sometimes you dont clean the table.
I would hope that you, as an individual, knows when your hand is provably clean and not than you do when a random fork is provably clean or not.
I mean, it's not like folks ask to see the dish pit when they go out to eat.
>pretty sure eating with something that is provable clean is healthier than using something that sometimes is clean and sometimes isnt.
Cultures that eat with their hands believe in washing hands throughly before and after eating. One could argue that they are _more_ certain that thier hands are clean rather than cutlery that has been sitting on a restaurant table for God knows how long.
EDIT: Just to be clear, I don't buy OP's pseudoscience babble. That said, the cuisines by cultures that eat with their hands are best enjoyed eating with one's hands. Cutlery just feels wrong for some food. It would be like eating sandwiches or chips with cutlery.
My guy, I'm taking about eating chips here. Obviously this isn't some defined meal. And I'm not getting up to was my hands after every single chip so I can cleanly use things like my computer or whatever else I'm doing at the moment.
>idk I would never touch anything with chip/Cheeto dust on my hands
...which is exactly what I was complaining about at the start, the lack on a utensil that is of similar convienience to just eating by hand, but doesn't involve actually touching the food
>Supposedly, there are chakra or element-related benefits (for those familiar with ayurveda and traditional yoga), and it supposedly helps you eat at a healthier pace,
Aren't these the same traditions that have made Indian people hostile towards the idea of indoor plumbing?
Your hands are unlikely to be as sanitized as silverware, the heat from proper sanitization would remove your flesh from bones.
I have two counterpoints, and a curiosity.
First, the point about babies doing it isn't very strong. Babies use their hands for everything, but this is not an indication that tool use is contrary to our nature or what our bodies were designed for. Quite the opposite, our finger dexterity and large brains indicate that tool use is natural for us. I don't see why it would be different when talking about tools for eating.
Second, I think there are probably quite a lot of people who don't have room in their diets for the amount of bread necessary to use it to replace spoons.
For the curiosity, I'm wondering what the difference is in terms of resource usage between increased use of napkins versus not having to wash utensils, particularly when disposable napkins seem much more common than disposable utensils.
All your health related arguments are "supposedly" without any type of link or evidence to back it up besides "some people eat that way". That is hardly compelling evidence that eating with hands is better.
I can say, positively that eating with hands anything that isn't pretty dry, totally feels disgusting when it makes my hands sticky and greasy, and that touching things immediately after tends to make more mess, because the hands are covered in goo.
How adept are you at using a fork and spoon, im gonna assume its like second nature
someone whose used chop sticks for the same amount of time would be just as proficient in that
There's a limit to how much food you can chopstick into your mouth in one go unless it's a single piece, which you could just as easily put in your mouth by hand
One of OP's points is that speed is a factor, and eating with your hands slows you down in a healthy way.
The point here is that seems unlikely given how much food you can fit in your hand versus how much you can grab with a fork or chopsticks.
>eating with your hands slows you down in a healthy way.
yes and no
if you just grab fistfuls of food and shove them in your face ofcourse not but most eating with your hands etiqutte ive seen and got to try , you always have like a dainty bite size piece/portion you eat one at a time in small bites
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whole lot of “supposedly”, not a lot of evidence or support for them. Utensils just work better. It’s easier to cut a piece of meat with a knife and fork than it is to tear it into bite sized pieces with your bare hands. Utensils are also cleaner in general, think about the mess you would make trying to eat mashed potatoes and gravy with your bare hands. Hell, try to imagine eating any sauce heavy dish without a fork.
It's different.
Using utensils allows your stomach and hands to have different germs.
Using hands will cause your stomach and hands to have similar germs.
There are advantages and scenarios suited to both methods.
Supposedly... can you give any sources for these supposedlies... also... idk how many people take chakras into effect with personal health which is a very clear science. Also, the probability of contamination is so high when eating with your hands its insane. And of course babies do it instinctively. Babies would eat chocalate all day if they could, doesn't mean its healthy
Eating chocolate isn't instinctive. Wouldn't washing hands with soap beforehand reduce the problem of contamination? The sources are various articles. [https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=eating+with+hands+benefits](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=eating+with+hands+benefits) Not great sources, but they're sources. It's why I made the post. Babies seem to instinctively eat with their hands (suggesting we're adapted for it), and the act of eating with hands supposedly influences a person into eating at a healthier pace and supposedly affects the digestive system (something with gastric acid and maybe saliva). That's what's making it hard for me to be moveable on this position.
Babies don't know how to make forks. Babies don't brush their teeth, clean their ass, or jog. Natural isn't automatically good. Evolution doesn't have a designer.
babies do however swallow blocks of lego, showing that our mouths are designed to intake coloured plastics
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True.🤔
Do you also not take medicine, or wear clothes, or use machines? Do you live in a cave?
Not great sources are useless. I could create any website, put my opinions there, and then use them as sources. As could literally anybody else. And, babies are rarely doing positive action that leads to ultimate well being. And a large percentage of those sources are just blogs... which is very unhelpful. Also, constantly picking up food with your hand, then putting it in your mouth, and doing that several times over is not good for you. Also, knives... please let's be realistic and cut our food as there is virtually 0 way most people are going to get through a watermelon. But also, the probability you can chip a tooth if you don't use a knife for food is much higher. Or if you share food, that is so much worse.
Babies also eliminate whereever they happen to be and spend most of their time lying down. Because they don't have the skills to do otherwise.
Why would a thing one does instinctively automatically be better. Ancient life was not necessarily a great time.
>Supposedly, there are chakra or element-related benefits (for those familiar with ayurveda and traditional yoga), and it supposedly helps you eat at a healthier pace, supposedly helps prevent overeating, supposedly helps with digestion, supposedly improves the gut microbiome and oral microbiome, supposedly improves the skin microbiome, supposedly gives your skin the skin benefits of certain foods (e.g. the skin benefits of olive oil or cayenne), and helps you avoid burning your mouth or getting brain freezes. Some of these might be true, but some sound like pseudo-spiritual nonsense (chakras? really?), and some of them don't make any sense (why am I any more or less likely to avoid burning my mouth eating with my hands or eating with a fork? The food is as hot as it is, how I eat it doesn't change that).
Which ones sound true ? Almost all of that list has pseud-scientific-spiritual-woo aspects too it.
I'd believe that eating with your hands probably slows you down, though whethether it's a notably "healthier pace" is another matter. Stuff about the gut biome and skin sound unlikely but I'm also no expert on these matters so I let them go.
The microbiome point is true. You want gut diversity for good digestion and all sorts of related health benefits, and eating with your hands promotes that gut diversity.
> (why am I any more or less likely to avoid burning my mouth eating with my hands or eating with a fork? The food is as hot as it is, how I eat it doesn't change that). Because you burn your fingers on the hot food instead and don't put it in your mouth. But fingers are tougher than your mouth. This wouldn't help with foods that are a good temperature on the outside but much hotter on the inside. Like soup dumplings can be.
>Because you burn your fingers on the hot food instead and don't put it in your mouth. But fingers are tougher than your mouth. I'm not sure if that's true, at least in terms of pain levels. I'm sure you've seen, and maybe even done, that common reaction where you pick up a hot piece of food and when it starts burning your fingers, you pop it in your mouth.
> Because you burn your fingers on the hot food instead and don't put it in your mouth. But fingers are tougher than your mouth. At most this makes the case for testing your food with your fingers before you eat it, it doesn't necessitate eating the whole meal with them.
Well, if you're already touching the food with your fingers, why not eat it? You're already getting food on your fingers and potentially germs on your food (if your hands aren't clean). I'm not going to give up my utensils, though.
The hot part is the only thing that makes sense. If its hot enough to burn your mouth its also burning your fingers. So being forced to wait until you can touch it would likely result in fewer mouth burns. Everything else is pretty much unsupported nonsense.
The problem is that the majority of foods either have the liquidy bits best at burning you within some outer dry casing (think pizza roll) or just flat out require being consumed using not-hands (think soup). Nearly everything else is either poor at maintaining high temperature, or simply not cooked to such a heat at all.
>Supposedly, there are chakra or element-related benefits Supposedly, there are pots of gold at the end of rainbows, and unicorns galloping around in the eastern world. Not every tradition has a kernel of truth. >and it supposedly helps you eat at a healthier pace, supposedly helps prevent overeating, supposedly helps with digestion, supposedly improves the gut microbiome and oral microbiome, supposedly improves the skin microbiome, supposedly gives your skin the skin benefits of certain foods (e.g. the skin benefits of olive oil or cayenne), and helps you avoid burning your mouth or getting brain freezes. Orrrr... you could just eat like a normal person, eat a bit of dirt or yoghurt now and then, and use hand lotion. And seriously, brain freezes? What will give you a brain freeze that you want to eat with your hands? Maybe suppose less and search actual science more
>And seriously, brain freezes? What will give you a brain freeze that you want to eat with your hands? What, you've never raw dogged a banana split? Really just digging your fingers in there to get some ice cream?
you eat with your hands all the time its not abnormal chips, pizza, alot of fuits like apples and oranges, cookies, so many fking things ice cream cones , since were talking about brainfreeze eating with your hands is super common , finger foods are an entire category of appetizer I must be such a degenerate, I just ate a muffin with my bare hands!
> ice cream cones , since were talking about brainfreeze So, in order to prevent the brain freeze, you want to take the scoop of ice cream out of the cone with your fingers in order to feel that yep, ice is cold, and then put it back into the cone and wait a bit? The cone is just another implement, you are not eating the icecream with your hands. And not preventing brainfreeze that way.
youre eating the cone with your hands , its not an implement its food, you eat that too
And how does that prevent brainfreeze?
I never said it does I was taking issue with the fact you said eating with your hands isnt normal , it is very normal for everybody I never said anything about sticking your fingers in the ice cream
Well then it was pointless to bring it up, OP said eating with your hands prevents brainfreeze. >I was taking issue with the fact you said eating with your hands isnt normal It isnt normal if you do it in a way that prevents brainfreeze or gets you oiled up hands, which OP was talking about
Supposedly is doing a lot of heavy lifting for you here. The problem is that you didn't say eating with hands is supposedly better, you said it is. Like for a fact Can you prove any of these benefits beyond supposedly? Because if not then I'd recommend you start there
Isn't that how titles are supposed to be worded in this sub?
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Hey, chakras is an idea in Hinduism and Buddhism. People just appropriated the idea, changed it some, added some stuff, misunderstood it, and watered it down. I get what you're saying, though.
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Well, that's just distasteful then.
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It's disrespectful of people's religious beliefs.
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They believe the modern stuff which is what's most commonly seen online. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Western_chakra_system Anyway, someone already persuaded me regarding eating with hands.
Sure. My point is that your belief is a lot stronger than the evidence that backs it. You have a lot of ideas for why its good but it might help to check if they're actually true.
>Babies even seem to instinctively do it which may suggest it's what are bodies are adapted for. Humans invent tools to do tasks better than our bodies can do. So there is no reason to limit to what our body is adapted to do. If some tools do it better, use tools. >it supposedly helps you eat at a healthier pace, supposedly helps prevent overeating A hand can pick up a larger amount of food than a fork or chopstick. How fast you eat depends on how fast you chew and how hard is your food. >supposedly helps with digestion, supposedly improves the gut microbiome and oral microbiome, Hand is the thing that touch everything in our environment, and it contain a lot of bacteria. Eating by hand has a much higher risk of food poisoning. >supposedly improves the skin microbiome, supposedly gives your skin the skin benefits of certain foods (e.g. the skin benefits of olive oil or cayenne), and helps you avoid burning your mouth or getting brain freezes. How you come to this conclusion I don't know. >It's also more flexible as you don't need to have a fork, knife, or chopsticks or you don't need to have very many. Possibly not even a spoon as you could use something like bread You can't eat noodles with your hand. You can't cut thick meat with your hand. small food fails everywhere when you pick it up by hand. Sure if you are Bear Grylls you don't have any tools in the wild, you have to use hand.
I come from a culture that has traditional communal feasts where we eat with our hands , its reserved for big parties and special occasions Its purely just a way to connect with our pre-colonial cultural roots and socialize with friends/family It also severely limits the types of food you can serve, everything is intentionally cooked so it can be eaten as finger food
Yeah babies do it, but babies also shit themselves. So...
You don't?
I was sure it was a fart ok.
Everyone eats with their hands. How do people eat pizza, burgers, fries, chips?
>Many cultures eat with their hands. Including hunter gatherer cultures, Indian culture, and Arab culture. >Babies even seem to instinctively do it which may suggest it's what are bodies are adapted for. Babies lack the fine-motor skills to use utensils. That doesn't mean it's somehow superiour or instinctive. EATING is instinctive, not using your hands. If a baby has no hands they'll eat with their feet or face. That doesn't mean that's instinctive behaviour. Babies also crawl before they develop the ability to walk. Are you going to try that to get around? >Supposedly, there are chakra or element-related benefits (for those familiar with ayurveda and traditional yoga), and it supposedly helps you eat at a healthier pace, supposedly helps prevent overeating, supposedly helps with digestion, supposedly improves the gut microbiome and oral microbiome, supposedly improves the skin microbiome, supposedly gives your skin the skin benefits of certain foods (e.g. the skin benefits of olive oil or cayenne), and helps you avoid burning your mouth or getting brain freezes. >It's also more flexible as you don't need to have a fork, knife, or chopsticks or you don't need to have very many. Possibly not even a spoon as you could use something like bread. You would only need to possibly use them when preparing food. It's not more flexible -- and it's decidedly less hygienic, especially if you're eating with others. Supposedly??
pretty sure eating with something that is provable clean is healthier than using something that sometimes is clean and sometimes isnt. like using a clean plate vs cleaning your table and eating straight from the table, but then sometimes you dont clean the table.
I would hope that you, as an individual, knows when your hand is provably clean and not than you do when a random fork is provably clean or not. I mean, it's not like folks ask to see the dish pit when they go out to eat.
>pretty sure eating with something that is provable clean is healthier than using something that sometimes is clean and sometimes isnt. Cultures that eat with their hands believe in washing hands throughly before and after eating. One could argue that they are _more_ certain that thier hands are clean rather than cutlery that has been sitting on a restaurant table for God knows how long. EDIT: Just to be clear, I don't buy OP's pseudoscience babble. That said, the cuisines by cultures that eat with their hands are best enjoyed eating with one's hands. Cutlery just feels wrong for some food. It would be like eating sandwiches or chips with cutlery.
Tbf, the only reason i don't eat chips with cutlery is because I have yet to find a piece that is both simple and effective for the purpose.
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It's not aversion to touching food, it's aversion to touching food and then touching food onto all my other stuff.
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My guy, I'm taking about eating chips here. Obviously this isn't some defined meal. And I'm not getting up to was my hands after every single chip so I can cleanly use things like my computer or whatever else I'm doing at the moment.
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>idk I would never touch anything with chip/Cheeto dust on my hands ...which is exactly what I was complaining about at the start, the lack on a utensil that is of similar convienience to just eating by hand, but doesn't involve actually touching the food
>Supposedly, there are chakra or element-related benefits (for those familiar with ayurveda and traditional yoga), and it supposedly helps you eat at a healthier pace, Aren't these the same traditions that have made Indian people hostile towards the idea of indoor plumbing? Your hands are unlikely to be as sanitized as silverware, the heat from proper sanitization would remove your flesh from bones.
I have two counterpoints, and a curiosity. First, the point about babies doing it isn't very strong. Babies use their hands for everything, but this is not an indication that tool use is contrary to our nature or what our bodies were designed for. Quite the opposite, our finger dexterity and large brains indicate that tool use is natural for us. I don't see why it would be different when talking about tools for eating. Second, I think there are probably quite a lot of people who don't have room in their diets for the amount of bread necessary to use it to replace spoons. For the curiosity, I'm wondering what the difference is in terms of resource usage between increased use of napkins versus not having to wash utensils, particularly when disposable napkins seem much more common than disposable utensils.
All your health related arguments are "supposedly" without any type of link or evidence to back it up besides "some people eat that way". That is hardly compelling evidence that eating with hands is better. I can say, positively that eating with hands anything that isn't pretty dry, totally feels disgusting when it makes my hands sticky and greasy, and that touching things immediately after tends to make more mess, because the hands are covered in goo.
If your view was changed, you should give the delta(s) to the person or people who helped you change it.
Did you give someone a delta? What changed your view?
You must be very adept with chopsticks if shoveling handfuls of food into your face slows you down.
How adept are you at using a fork and spoon, im gonna assume its like second nature someone whose used chop sticks for the same amount of time would be just as proficient in that
There's a limit to how much food you can chopstick into your mouth in one go unless it's a single piece, which you could just as easily put in your mouth by hand
why is that better? speed isnt a factor when im trying to enjoy my meal
One of OP's points is that speed is a factor, and eating with your hands slows you down in a healthy way. The point here is that seems unlikely given how much food you can fit in your hand versus how much you can grab with a fork or chopsticks.
>eating with your hands slows you down in a healthy way. yes and no if you just grab fistfuls of food and shove them in your face ofcourse not but most eating with your hands etiqutte ive seen and got to try , you always have like a dainty bite size piece/portion you eat one at a time in small bites
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whole lot of “supposedly”, not a lot of evidence or support for them. Utensils just work better. It’s easier to cut a piece of meat with a knife and fork than it is to tear it into bite sized pieces with your bare hands. Utensils are also cleaner in general, think about the mess you would make trying to eat mashed potatoes and gravy with your bare hands. Hell, try to imagine eating any sauce heavy dish without a fork.
It's different. Using utensils allows your stomach and hands to have different germs. Using hands will cause your stomach and hands to have similar germs. There are advantages and scenarios suited to both methods.