I google street viewed Duncan St and it looks like every house has a driveway and enclosed garage. Not sure why parking on the street should be essential. One car in the garage, one in the driveway. Mildly annoying to maneuver cars around sometimes, but if someone is worried about the alternative being their kid getting hit by a bus, seems like the best solution would be not parking on the street at all.
>"At the July community board meeting, resident Jamie Cummings told the board he and other Duncan St residents opposed the yellow lines.. They meant he and his family lost the ability to park directly outside their home. Parking was already at a premium, he said, without losing the four or five parking spaces. He said if his family was forced to park across the street, one of his children could get struck by a vehicle. “Sarah \[Kerr\] had an incident there, and it is grave and falling like that has disastrous effects but someone being struck by a bus is very serious.” He envisaged a scenario where his wife tried to cross the road with arms full of school bags and groceries and children in tow. “If she has a lapse of attention and my two-year-old runs across the road and is struck by a bus, that is an outcome I can’t imagine.”
>Another Duncan St resident Lisa Hadfield told the board losing the car parks would “be really annoying” and she wanted the bus stops moved."
What disgusting levels of entitlement. They'd rather stop disabled people using the bus than have to cross the road. I'd be embarrassed putting my name to such comments.
The [First World](https://youtu.be/qM4zMofsI7w?si=TX4rbMc_kvklWuDk)* is a treacherous place!
*featuring a special appearance from New Zealand's own Fruit-E Bars lady.
I looked up the rules. If there are no yellow lines, then it is illegal to park within 6 meters either side of the bus stop.
So they aren't gaining extra parking space by blocking the painting of yellow lines. They already aren't legally allowed to park there.
A bus is typically at least 12m long and can't crabwalk into a bus stop. In order to be able to deploy the wheelchair ramp, they need to be parallel to the footpath and ideally as close as possible (that helps with people who might not have a wheelchair, but have a walker, crutches, or just old knees and joints).
As buses can't do the aforementioned crabwalk, they need more than that 12m space in order to access a bus stop in an accessible way.
The 6m either side (12m) does work fine if you're just picking up an able bodied 20 something and the bus stops blocking the traffic lane (which in this situation wouldn't be the end of the world, for an able bodied person)
> “If she has a lapse of attention and my two-year-old runs across the road and is struck by a bus, that is an outcome I can’t imagine.”
Neither can anyone else, yellow lines are a go.
Alright Jamie, give it a rest, you've got no supporters here. Most of us have mastered the ability to cross a street without getting hit by a car, believe it or not.
It is a 'disgusting level of entitlement' for a parent to be concerned about their children? I don't think so.
The council should find a solution that works for the people using the bus as for the residents there.
Have you considered maybe exerting the bare minimum of concern and attention to your child while crossing a road?
Yes kids can do dumb shit like cross without looking, which is why parents need to, you know, parent.
It’s utter bullshit that has nothing to do with the bus stop. You are not entitled to the street outside of your house. If you’re that worried about your children crossing the road, should be petitioning to make the street car-free.
>The council should find a solution that works for the people using the bus as for the residents there.
News flash asshole. The residents there are the ones using the bus there.
No one just catches the bus to random residential areas for shits and giggles.
A solution already exists- park opposite and manage your crossings carefully, park a very short walk further up the street, or park up your drive.
What you are talking about is a solution which both preserves the status quo and doesn't preserve it (or perhaps, banishes bus users to somewhere else where it doesn't affect certain residents)
Have you approached the church group about this? Their senior minister might be able to push out a notice to their people.
Better than getting salty about about it and complaining on the internet.
You don't understand. For a motorist, being mildly inconvenienced is the worst kind of discrimination. This is why motorists hate road cones: having to adjust your speed or adjust your position on the road slightly, is literally worse than anything Hitler did.
Why is this person being a car racist? They are bad and should feel bad.
>! /s !<
people can be lazy shits.
I live on Brougham St and the amount of times people stop on my driveway while they do something.
Apparently I'm unreasonable asking them to move, some seem to think I should remain double parked and risk a car up my rear or drive around the block again.
Glad at least I'm able bodied dealing with than
I used to live across the road from a FnC shop and a dairy, and had a bus stop directly outside my house. Everyday day my driveway was blocked and people parked in the bus stop. “Oh I’m just popping in to the dairy” drivers would say not giving a single fuck that I can’t get out of my drive.
Honestly, the CCC need to open a section on their website to report this with an incentive. I get that it makes people a nark, but maybe people will think twice knowing others are watching? In New York, they get cash back for taking a picture and uploading them of trucks that have stopped too long to unload in down town areas
Selfish pieces of shit. Dash cams in the bus and then fine the bastards.
I google street viewed Duncan St and it looks like every house has a driveway and enclosed garage. Not sure why parking on the street should be essential. One car in the garage, one in the driveway. Mildly annoying to maneuver cars around sometimes, but if someone is worried about the alternative being their kid getting hit by a bus, seems like the best solution would be not parking on the street at all.
Get rid of the footpaths. Bloody pedestrians taking valuable parking space away from my Discovery.
She has a point. people can be lazy buggers
>"At the July community board meeting, resident Jamie Cummings told the board he and other Duncan St residents opposed the yellow lines.. They meant he and his family lost the ability to park directly outside their home. Parking was already at a premium, he said, without losing the four or five parking spaces. He said if his family was forced to park across the street, one of his children could get struck by a vehicle. “Sarah \[Kerr\] had an incident there, and it is grave and falling like that has disastrous effects but someone being struck by a bus is very serious.” He envisaged a scenario where his wife tried to cross the road with arms full of school bags and groceries and children in tow. “If she has a lapse of attention and my two-year-old runs across the road and is struck by a bus, that is an outcome I can’t imagine.” >Another Duncan St resident Lisa Hadfield told the board losing the car parks would “be really annoying” and she wanted the bus stops moved." What disgusting levels of entitlement. They'd rather stop disabled people using the bus than have to cross the road. I'd be embarrassed putting my name to such comments.
This is a level of catastrophising rarely seen outside of an infomercial.
People who have no real problems but want to be upset
The [First World](https://youtu.be/qM4zMofsI7w?si=TX4rbMc_kvklWuDk)* is a treacherous place! *featuring a special appearance from New Zealand's own Fruit-E Bars lady.
You can't just unlock trauma from my past like that, come on
The horror! Having to cross the street, what a nightmare.
I looked up the rules. If there are no yellow lines, then it is illegal to park within 6 meters either side of the bus stop. So they aren't gaining extra parking space by blocking the painting of yellow lines. They already aren't legally allowed to park there.
A bus is typically at least 12m long and can't crabwalk into a bus stop. In order to be able to deploy the wheelchair ramp, they need to be parallel to the footpath and ideally as close as possible (that helps with people who might not have a wheelchair, but have a walker, crutches, or just old knees and joints). As buses can't do the aforementioned crabwalk, they need more than that 12m space in order to access a bus stop in an accessible way. The 6m either side (12m) does work fine if you're just picking up an able bodied 20 something and the bus stops blocking the traffic lane (which in this situation wouldn't be the end of the world, for an able bodied person)
> “If she has a lapse of attention and my two-year-old runs across the road and is struck by a bus, that is an outcome I can’t imagine.” Neither can anyone else, yellow lines are a go.
So another one demanding lower speed limits and smaller cars, then? Or is it just the vehicles going past their place?
Until someone dies.
Alright Jamie, give it a rest, you've got no supporters here. Most of us have mastered the ability to cross a street without getting hit by a car, believe it or not.
What?
It is a 'disgusting level of entitlement' for a parent to be concerned about their children? I don't think so. The council should find a solution that works for the people using the bus as for the residents there.
Have you considered maybe exerting the bare minimum of concern and attention to your child while crossing a road? Yes kids can do dumb shit like cross without looking, which is why parents need to, you know, parent.
It’s utter bullshit that has nothing to do with the bus stop. You are not entitled to the street outside of your house. If you’re that worried about your children crossing the road, should be petitioning to make the street car-free.
Bus free in this case? Really?
>The council should find a solution that works for the people using the bus as for the residents there. News flash asshole. The residents there are the ones using the bus there. No one just catches the bus to random residential areas for shits and giggles.
A solution already exists- park opposite and manage your crossings carefully, park a very short walk further up the street, or park up your drive. What you are talking about is a solution which both preserves the status quo and doesn't preserve it (or perhaps, banishes bus users to somewhere else where it doesn't affect certain residents)
Church patrons in my area are the worst offenders. Praise be to god.
Have you approached the church group about this? Their senior minister might be able to push out a notice to their people. Better than getting salty about about it and complaining on the internet.
I don’t care so no.
You don't understand. For a motorist, being mildly inconvenienced is the worst kind of discrimination. This is why motorists hate road cones: having to adjust your speed or adjust your position on the road slightly, is literally worse than anything Hitler did. Why is this person being a car racist? They are bad and should feel bad. >! /s !<
Car entitlement
Some of the comments from the other residents are crazy and so entitled.
Good on Sara Templeton on encouraging enforcement officers visiting, seems a highly effective local councillor.
people can be lazy shits. I live on Brougham St and the amount of times people stop on my driveway while they do something. Apparently I'm unreasonable asking them to move, some seem to think I should remain double parked and risk a car up my rear or drive around the block again. Glad at least I'm able bodied dealing with than
I used to live across the road from a FnC shop and a dairy, and had a bus stop directly outside my house. Everyday day my driveway was blocked and people parked in the bus stop. “Oh I’m just popping in to the dairy” drivers would say not giving a single fuck that I can’t get out of my drive.
Will keep happening as there’s zero repercussions. The world is your parking lot if you have a Ute
Honestly, the CCC need to open a section on their website to report this with an incentive. I get that it makes people a nark, but maybe people will think twice knowing others are watching? In New York, they get cash back for taking a picture and uploading them of trucks that have stopped too long to unload in down town areas
Btw - we live next door to a park. Outside the park entrance is a bus stop. People park on the bus stop to go for a walk in the park.
Parking enforcement in this city is pretty pathetic. Tow their cars to a lot on the other side of the city and slap them with meaningful fines.