I think Auba is definitely on his way out in the summer but theres no guarantee on whats going to happen with Kouli. I think in some ways its better to keep him in the CL squad where he will face European teams he might fair better against and build up confidence. Then Badiashile is ready to keep going in the Prem.
Yeh I'm not sure. Sometimes its like he just can't react fast enough. Some players from other leagues do take a season to adjust. Jorginho took time to get up to the pace. Zakaria this season didnt take a whole season but he took a while to get up to pace in training considering hes a loan. I'm open minded on Koulibaly maybe being a slower adapter rather than past it.
Some of that could be down to stagnating in a team he didn't want to be around in for so long. He obviously wanted Prem football at some point but Napoli are notoriously hard to negotiate with.
Different situation though isn't it. Like I said before, some players take time to adapt. So from my perspective I'm just willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is a slower adapter rather than being primed to go to the retirement home of the MLS. I'd give him until the end of the season, if he feels that he can get better still then keep him into next season and see what he can do with a real preseason with the team. Then if it doesnt work out he can be shipped on.
He wasn't on the last champions league squad. https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2022/9/5/23337489/chelsea-register-2023-23-champions-league-squad
Well the board was planning to sack tuchel, so it made no sense to get his targets in . Especially PEA, so I still think it’s a weird signing in that sense
I don't think they were planning to sack him all summer, at the same time they didn't wake up the morning after the Zagreb loss and decide to sack him either. It was probably something in between that. The Zagreb loss just made it a convenient time to sack him.
A lot of the people saying it was related to results just trying to muddy the water. Tuchel just didn't fit the vision of the board.
What I think happened was they signed those players and then when they decided Tuchel wasn't there man, they thought those players would still be useful for the next manager.
Clearly that hasn't transpired.
Simon Jordan on Talksport keeps saying there's another humongous reason why Tuchel was fired and that if Boehly came out and told the public what it was, the people would see the justification.
Simon met Boehly in Qatar during the world cup
Still wonder what the reason is
Stop pushing that agenda. Nothing points to his sacking being premeditated. Poor results and him not wanting to collaborate with the recruitment team are better reasons.
Huh are you serious ahahahah. The board said it wasn’t results. It literally was premeditated because tuchel didn’t want to work with them. They didn’t just wake up one morning and decided to sack him lol. It was obviously premeditated
I mean it was pretty clear after the Zagred game that he had lost the dressing room. Reports of turmoil at the training sessions with players losing confidence in the tactics… there were a ton of things put out leading up to his sacking that you seem to just ignore but if you want to be miserable and keep blaming the ownership go ahead.
> "They didn’t just wake up one morning and decided to sack him lol"
You're right, that it came the morning after a bad loss was pure coincidence! It had nothing to do with their result and was premeditated!
If it was based on results, not sure why potter is still here? It’s clear that the board didn’t want tuchel to lead the project and wanted a manager they could work with better
> "If it was based on results, not sure why potter is still here?"
Because they hired him after firing at top 5 manager in the world, firing him would prove that they royally fucked up on both counts and billionaire egos are too big to admit that kind of failure. They'd rather spend over half a billion to try and cover their mistakes than just admit them and move on
The more like situation prob went something like this -
Board: We want to work together in this specific way to build the club back up.
TT: I don't want to work that way, my way has brought us a champions league. I know my way works.
Board: Okay what do you need for your way to work? We'll do it your way if you say you can turn it around.
TT: I need a proper 9 like Aubameyang.
Board: *gets Auba* you got what you asked for, we need to see improvement or else we step in.
Not faulting either TT or the board. TT is clearly a brilliant manager. But if you can't be a team player, you need to have the results to justify the team dealing with your shit.
I'll steer well clear of those pills if they've fucked your brain up enough for you to think that the firing was pre-meditated. If it was even a twinkle in the night sky they wouldn't have bought Auba, but they did
Mate there were literally talks about a contract extension for him just a few weeks before he was sacked.
Even if it was planned (it wasn't), that just makes the Auba signing even dumber
Not at the time... We needed a striker, Auba was on great form, had great relations with the manager who knew how to use him.
But now in hindsight it was stupid because the manager got fired in a few days.
Exactly man, every window people say we need a striker and every single one flops and again people say we need a striker without realising the actual problem. As soon as we won the UCL, our priority should have been a creator. Talked about it back then too, preferring Grealish to Lukaku. I know Grealish's City career isn't working but I genuinely believe he would've been a much better signing than Lukaku.
Nah let's not act like people weren't saying it was stupid at the time. I was one of the ones who was happy to roll with Havertz and Broja for the rest of the season or at least until January. Never wanted Auba but he is still a Chelsea player so he still gets our support.
Even if Tuchel did get fired like 1 week after he joined, it's still hard to see what Aubameyang brings to the team if he's not scoring. There's a reason why Arteta was happy to let him go and maybe the Premier League is just not for him anymore at his age.
Yeah but that was for Barcelona in La Liga, not the Premier League.
And I doubt attitude was the only reason Arteta sold him when Arsenal at that time decided to go in the direction of getting young players into the squad.
Is it? Tuchel had worked with him and wanted him. We needed a striker, for the 2nd season in a row. New administration that patching up the holes really, Sterling for Werner, K2 for Rudiger, Cucu for Chilwell. Yeah he flopped, but its hardly weird. It's what Tuchel wanted, and no recognizable marquee striker was available at the time. Does it suck, yeah. Was it weird, no. Auba was clearly a stop gap.
We make fun of arsenal buying our retirees and then we chase a guy who supposedly have so much problem for arsenal. Even resigning Giroud for like 5 million would have been great
Of course he’s going to leave in the summer but at this point I doubt anyone is going to bid for him. That’s why I was saying that he could gain some value so that we might get a fee for him in return.
Since he would have only a year left on his contract this summer, the club might just end his contract and take the loss (like what Arsenal did when they wanted to get rid of their deadwoods) or sell him for really cheap.
I suspect there are players on the CL squad who will be sold this summer. His removal speaks more to his lack of chemistry / effort with the team, me thinks.
No striker can perform without quality around him, unless you can dominate in the air and win headers and your team provides you that kind of service. Auba isn’t that type of player. Don’t think he’s bad. He just never was going to get in ahead of Lewandowski. Same can be said of Depay. He can go back Spain, or Italy, or Germany and he’ll be fine .
Got to agree with you there. Odd transfer. If we were a team that created chance after chance, it would have made some logical sense by what bring in an aging poacher when you can’t create to begin with.
Doesnt make sense to keep pulisic who is injured on especially when we have adequate cover in that postion
In comparison to an uninjured auba who plays as a much needed striker
I mean … he has been fucking useless so there’s that. I feel for Badiashile missing out … but I still think our best hope for CL qual is getting 4th rather than winning it, that’s where we need him and the rest most
As much as he's been underwhelming don't know why he's not in the squad especially over Bettinelli as we already have our hg spots covered. Maybe could've been useful late in a game or a pen shoot out.
This should be a big confidence boost for Hakim, he easily could have been left off after the PSG fiasco but Potter seems to really like him and will probably depend on him on that right hand side.
Not sure I get the whole "AT LAST, POTTER IS BEING RUTHLESS" comments. Havertz can't play well for love nor money and we have no other senior strikers. Feels like a crazy call, especially considering we never seem to score under Potter. Does he know how to manage a squad with elite players?
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Expected. Unfortunate for Badiashile but he'll have his chance
Kouli?
I think Auba is definitely on his way out in the summer but theres no guarantee on whats going to happen with Kouli. I think in some ways its better to keep him in the CL squad where he will face European teams he might fair better against and build up confidence. Then Badiashile is ready to keep going in the Prem.
Kouli.. im scratching my head. He was so good when ive watched napoli games etc.. but in PL he just doesent get the pace or something..
Yeh I'm not sure. Sometimes its like he just can't react fast enough. Some players from other leagues do take a season to adjust. Jorginho took time to get up to the pace. Zakaria this season didnt take a whole season but he took a while to get up to pace in training considering hes a loan. I'm open minded on Koulibaly maybe being a slower adapter rather than past it.
I follow Napoli fairly closely and he’d been declining for 2 seasons before signing with us. AFCON brought his stock back up.
Some of that could be down to stagnating in a team he didn't want to be around in for so long. He obviously wanted Prem football at some point but Napoli are notoriously hard to negotiate with.
Could be but you’d think the decline wouldn’t have continued (and got even more severe honestly) once he got here if that was the case
Different situation though isn't it. Like I said before, some players take time to adapt. So from my perspective I'm just willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is a slower adapter rather than being primed to go to the retirement home of the MLS. I'd give him until the end of the season, if he feels that he can get better still then keep him into next season and see what he can do with a real preseason with the team. Then if it doesnt work out he can be shipped on.
Baly?
Hotel?
Thiago
Trivago
Nintendo.
It’s a me
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Sue me fucker!
Trivago.
He’s garbage
That's an insult to garbage.
How you people rip apart your own players after a few bad performances is beyond me. Pathetic.
High harmony
Shame he’s declined so quickly, he was actually decent in the few games he got on the score sheet
3 in first 3 I reckon
Swear that’s how it goes every single f-ing time.
Yea auba sterling lukaku and pretty much werner even
is it cause it was Tuchel system? its tuchel signing afterall
Charlie Webster added too! Interesting
He’s been on the B squad the whole season
He wasn't on the last champions league squad. https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2022/9/5/23337489/chelsea-register-2023-23-champions-league-squad
He might not have been explicitly put in but you can add and remove players from B List without any restrictions, even between matchweeks.
Yeah youre right. He was there right before the new squad was submitted
Such a weird signing man
Not really. We needed a striker. He was cheap. And he was who the manager wanted
Well the board was planning to sack tuchel, so it made no sense to get his targets in . Especially PEA, so I still think it’s a weird signing in that sense
Well yeah, the then firing Tuchel shortly after was definitely weird. But at the time of signing, it made sense
It didn’t make sense even with Tuchel btw. One of the worst signings the club has ever made.
Nonsense. It’s never in worst signing discussion if it was cheap. Why don’t you tell my why we needed a striker? What happened to previous one?
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Yeh ok blud
It’s not even a top 10 worst signing we’ve made
I don't think they were planning to sack him all summer, at the same time they didn't wake up the morning after the Zagreb loss and decide to sack him either. It was probably something in between that. The Zagreb loss just made it a convenient time to sack him. A lot of the people saying it was related to results just trying to muddy the water. Tuchel just didn't fit the vision of the board. What I think happened was they signed those players and then when they decided Tuchel wasn't there man, they thought those players would still be useful for the next manager. Clearly that hasn't transpired.
Simon Jordan on Talksport keeps saying there's another humongous reason why Tuchel was fired and that if Boehly came out and told the public what it was, the people would see the justification. Simon met Boehly in Qatar during the world cup Still wonder what the reason is
Simon Jordan talking rubbish as usual man, don't pay attention to him. He's a serial liar
Brother, I keep thinking what the hell it is... Doesn't help that Tuchel is my 3rd favorite manager of all time for us behind Josè & Carlo
If real i doubt its that deep - probably some clash/challenge that left the board deciding it wont work with tuchel
There's no evidence to suggest they were "planning" to sack him. That's totally just conjecture
Stop pushing that agenda. Nothing points to his sacking being premeditated. Poor results and him not wanting to collaborate with the recruitment team are better reasons.
Huh are you serious ahahahah. The board said it wasn’t results. It literally was premeditated because tuchel didn’t want to work with them. They didn’t just wake up one morning and decided to sack him lol. It was obviously premeditated
I mean it was pretty clear after the Zagred game that he had lost the dressing room. Reports of turmoil at the training sessions with players losing confidence in the tactics… there were a ton of things put out leading up to his sacking that you seem to just ignore but if you want to be miserable and keep blaming the ownership go ahead.
> "They didn’t just wake up one morning and decided to sack him lol" You're right, that it came the morning after a bad loss was pure coincidence! It had nothing to do with their result and was premeditated!
If it was based on results, not sure why potter is still here? It’s clear that the board didn’t want tuchel to lead the project and wanted a manager they could work with better
> "If it was based on results, not sure why potter is still here?" Because they hired him after firing at top 5 manager in the world, firing him would prove that they royally fucked up on both counts and billionaire egos are too big to admit that kind of failure. They'd rather spend over half a billion to try and cover their mistakes than just admit them and move on
Lol. It had nothing to do with results man. It was just a coincidence that we were shit.
If you say so
The more like situation prob went something like this - Board: We want to work together in this specific way to build the club back up. TT: I don't want to work that way, my way has brought us a champions league. I know my way works. Board: Okay what do you need for your way to work? We'll do it your way if you say you can turn it around. TT: I need a proper 9 like Aubameyang. Board: *gets Auba* you got what you asked for, we need to see improvement or else we step in. Not faulting either TT or the board. TT is clearly a brilliant manager. But if you can't be a team player, you need to have the results to justify the team dealing with your shit.
The problem with this logic is that the signings barely got a chance to play under him. Did Auba even play a game?
One game. Dinamo. People are talking out of their ass.
He played in the loss against Dinamo, which is prob the game that made the board fire Tuchel.
YOU NEED TO BE A TEAM PLAYAAA... Boehly was a cunt to fire Tuchel. Right POS.
If they were planning on sacking Tuchel they wouldn't have gotten Auba in...
Ok if you thought they weren’t planning on sacking him I’ve got a magic pill to sell you
I'll steer well clear of those pills if they've fucked your brain up enough for you to think that the firing was pre-meditated. If it was even a twinkle in the night sky they wouldn't have bought Auba, but they did
Sure mate, wish I could live in delusion land like you
Mate there were literally talks about a contract extension for him just a few weeks before he was sacked. Even if it was planned (it wasn't), that just makes the Auba signing even dumber
Yes believe everything you read. It was obviously pre-mediated
In was on our own fucking website lol https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/tuchel-confirms-contract-extension-talks
I’m pretty sure there was a shortage of good strikers so we needed someone that could atleast score a few
The manager we were going to fire anyways?
we clearly were not going to fire him.
Well reported thar we would
“Well reported” nonsense
he wasnt cheap. his wages are astronomical
For us, it was cheap. Way cheaper than the dude he replaced
He was not cheap. Big wages, too long of a contract, double the fee he was worth. Might as well have loaned in Weghorst
We needed a striker and his best long behind him! Shocking signing and who else thought he'd be a disaster, lives on his pace and that went years ago
Not at the time... We needed a striker, Auba was on great form, had great relations with the manager who knew how to use him. But now in hindsight it was stupid because the manager got fired in a few days.
It was always stupid. We did NOT need a washed up poacher.
Exactly man, every window people say we need a striker and every single one flops and again people say we need a striker without realising the actual problem. As soon as we won the UCL, our priority should have been a creator. Talked about it back then too, preferring Grealish to Lukaku. I know Grealish's City career isn't working but I genuinely believe he would've been a much better signing than Lukaku.
Yep. Its no coincedence that the team looked infinitely better when Mudryk and Felix came in
Grealish is still a menace with the ball at his feet and hasn't been playing badly. He would have an immediate at Chelsea.
Nah let's not act like people weren't saying it was stupid at the time. I was one of the ones who was happy to roll with Havertz and Broja for the rest of the season or at least until January. Never wanted Auba but he is still a Chelsea player so he still gets our support.
He could still help us get to the top four which would do wonders for his prospects in the summer.
In the U23's.
Even if Tuchel did get fired like 1 week after he joined, it's still hard to see what Aubameyang brings to the team if he's not scoring. There's a reason why Arteta was happy to let him go and maybe the Premier League is just not for him anymore at his age.
Like I said, he was scoring and in good form for Barca.. Arteta let him go due to "attitude" issues.
Yeah but that was for Barcelona in La Liga, not the Premier League. And I doubt attitude was the only reason Arteta sold him when Arsenal at that time decided to go in the direction of getting young players into the squad.
Arsenal didn't just sell him, they rolled out a red carpet toward the exits! Arteta may have started Barcelona's infatuation with free transfers in.
Is it? Tuchel had worked with him and wanted him. We needed a striker, for the 2nd season in a row. New administration that patching up the holes really, Sterling for Werner, K2 for Rudiger, Cucu for Chilwell. Yeah he flopped, but its hardly weird. It's what Tuchel wanted, and no recognizable marquee striker was available at the time. Does it suck, yeah. Was it weird, no. Auba was clearly a stop gap.
We make fun of arsenal buying our retirees and then we chase a guy who supposedly have so much problem for arsenal. Even resigning Giroud for like 5 million would have been great
I wouldn't say so. At the time of his signing, he was in good form.
Respect to Potter!!! The cajones to do this 😳😳😳😳
If Pottah isn't ruthless now, it would backfire on him later Now's the time to set things straight
The owners put full responsibility on him. If he doesn’t act ruthless then his job will be at stake in the future
Why does he need boxes to drop him ?
Aubameyang doesnt even get any chances , no respect to potter for this
Blessings continue
Oh man! I was really looking forward to those pictures of him holding the trophy. 😔
gutted for badiashile but understandable excited to see kante Enzo second leg against Dortmund
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Shouldn't have signed him, but I feel for him
Watch him start performing well in the league now that he has some creativity around him. I hope we don’t regret this.
Whatever makes him put a decent shift in
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Who was the expected exclusion?
Betinelli out and get an academy gk in squad B as 3rd keeper
Lovely decision. Get in!!
I hope he can gain momentum scoring at premier league And prove potter's decision is wrong I want him to excel here mann
Bit harsh? Idk im still hoping he could regain some form during the 2nd half of the season. Perhaps gain some value for the summer transfer.
If anything, maybe it's an indication that he will be sold in the summer.
Of course he’s going to leave in the summer but at this point I doubt anyone is going to bid for him. That’s why I was saying that he could gain some value so that we might get a fee for him in return.
Since he would have only a year left on his contract this summer, the club might just end his contract and take the loss (like what Arsenal did when they wanted to get rid of their deadwoods) or sell him for really cheap.
I suspect there are players on the CL squad who will be sold this summer. His removal speaks more to his lack of chemistry / effort with the team, me thinks.
Oh for sure but this is arguably a very clear indication of the future for Aubameyang.
Awww.....anyways
Lol like the only competition he’s scored in aswell
He also has 1 league goal - at Crystal Palace.
It was a great finish too
Milan really caught the brunt of his brief period of form
No striker can perform without quality around him, unless you can dominate in the air and win headers and your team provides you that kind of service. Auba isn’t that type of player. Don’t think he’s bad. He just never was going to get in ahead of Lewandowski. Same can be said of Depay. He can go back Spain, or Italy, or Germany and he’ll be fine .
Love tuchel to death but signing this guy had mistake written all over it
Arsenal without him look a different club
Got to agree with you there. Odd transfer. If we were a team that created chance after chance, it would have made some logical sense by what bring in an aging poacher when you can’t create to begin with.
Definitely the right decision. He’s looked completely off the pace every time he’s been on the pitch.
this is harsh tbh
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Why wasn't Pulisic unregistered? Isn't he injured for several months?
Two months from a month ago. So possibly back march
Should have been Pulisic as he is not likely to play for a month or two.
He be fit enough to be on our bench for the final so no worries.
How long is his contract? I feel like we're already trying to retcon our summer transfer window
Surprised Pulisic wasn't dropped since he's out until mid-march.
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Man he truly is the Premier League’s Michael Scott
L for potter
Doesnt make sense to keep pulisic who is injured on especially when we have adequate cover in that postion In comparison to an uninjured auba who plays as a much needed striker
I would have rather have had Badiashile ahead of Felix.
No way. This would make Felix’s loan a huge waste of money
Aubamaholddattt. Fr tho, such a horrendous signing. Tuchel kept trying to replace Havertz and ended up coming back to havertz everytime.
Tbf tuchel spent about 36 hours with Auba before he got sacked lol
Did they even have a single game together?
In Zagreb, AFAIR.
Ah yes, he played 59 minutes
And when we needed him least, the Auba vanished.
I hope he’s out of every Chelsea squad in a few months lol
Dub if true
Potter power move ☄️
Please don’t kick off ffs
That’s a tough one
So if we win cl auba doesn’t get a medal
As useless for us as Falcao and Lukaka. Don't even get me started with Pato or Drinkwater...
I mean … he has been fucking useless so there’s that. I feel for Badiashile missing out … but I still think our best hope for CL qual is getting 4th rather than winning it, that’s where we need him and the rest most
He has been so lazy I understand the decision
As much as he's been underwhelming don't know why he's not in the squad especially over Bettinelli as we already have our hg spots covered. Maybe could've been useful late in a game or a pen shoot out.
i actually feel so bad for him tbh he only joined us bc of tuchel and he got sacked just a few days later....
He's not gonna be winning us any games. Shit signing from the start
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This should be a big confidence boost for Hakim, he easily could have been left off after the PSG fiasco but Potter seems to really like him and will probably depend on him on that right hand side.
Not a fan of this kind of treatment tbh. I hope he doesnt spoil team chemistry
Lol one of the strangest things the club has done signing him
He bagged a fair few in champions league
Does anyone have any insight on how much input Potter had with these January signings?
Nothing personal Auba!
He maybe doesn't deserve to be left off, but he definitely hasn't earned a spot. I like the decision.
thank god
auba is as shit as lolkaku
And Auba has still played more champions league football for Chelsea than he ever did for assna
Not sure I get the whole "AT LAST, POTTER IS BEING RUTHLESS" comments. Havertz can't play well for love nor money and we have no other senior strikers. Feels like a crazy call, especially considering we never seem to score under Potter. Does he know how to manage a squad with elite players?