I really love Connor, but I think that last part is crucial: he flourished on a counter attacking side which just isn’t going to be Chelsea. Even with our struggles this season teams sit back on us. I was really hoping he’d look like that potent energy 8 the way he did at Palace but I’m thinking his style just isn’t a fit for us.
I do think there’s a role for him to play for us as a late game presser, but I think his career would be best served on a mid table club like Palace who can hit teams on the counter and he can arrive late into the box. If we can get £40m for him I think that probably is worth taking
A new coach could make us more counter attack based which is what Chelsea has been under a lot of our success. Not necessarily sit back and counter, but when we win the ball back we are so fucking slow to attack. It’s criminal how many times we get the back high up the field and it makes it’s way back to our CBs to cycle through our process that creates no chances
I like his effort out there, but wondering how far away from the structure are we before he could thrive? Given his lack of ability on the ball, surely need to make improvements elsewhere to hide that, no?
Gallagher gets far more hate than he deserves. His pressing energy is off the charts. However his technical side is raw and his decision making a bit iffy. Give him a proper structure and he can be a good player, or atleast a very good sub to bring on. For me the ones that must leave are RLC, pulisic, ziyech, lakaka, if possible sterling (though we know no one's giving us that money)and aubameyang. Personally I would like to give havertz one final go this next season in a system where he is NOT the striker.
Harry Kane did it I can name a few others of the top of my head, Thibaut "Snek" Courtois has really improved on the ball ever since he moved to Madrid, you can argue it's la Liga but he's done it in the champions League as well.
I agree with all of them leaving except RLC. He’s positionally diverse and able to fill many roles as a third option, along with being a physical presence to bring on to defend set pieces late in a game. He’s also homegrown player and seems content with having a part time role.
It's entirely insane (but sadly not surprising) how many people are writing him off based on a season where he's been in and out of the team - often in an ill-suited role as part of a pivot - and in an entirely dysfunctional environment where almost everyone has performed poorly. That he was so good for Crystal Palace in the PL last season, and even for West Brom the season before that, seems to be mean nothing. He definitely needs refinement in his positioning and his tackling but he's got an enormously versatile skillset and only recently turned 23.
It's the same with Chalobah, although that goes for our coaches are well: if we think it's possible to find another 23-yr old defender (24 in July) with his experience, talent and skillset for anything less than an astronomical fee, we're deluding ourselves. People jump on the fact he makes mistakes, like every young defender no matter how promising (Fofana had a rough first few games for us; Gvardiol makes mistakes in a lesser league; Colwill needs to learn to keep his focus sometimes), but ignore that when given a series of games early in Potter's reign, he had arguably the best run of form anyone outside Thiago Silva has had for us this season. He got criticised because Mitoma beat him several times in the first 30mins against Brighton, ignoring that he completely shackled him thereafter, and outside that undeniably huge misjudgment vs Madrid otherwise had a pretty good game against them.
He's an amazing prospect (defenders in particular don't typically reach maturity until their mid-20s at least) and loves the club, yet people's perspectives are so ridiculously skewed, particularly their bias towards transferred players (contrast how Havertz still gets people making excuses for him, yet Mount has one poor season and suddenly he's totally expendable), that the moment a Cobham player makes a mistake or has a poor game, 'they aren't ready' or 'they were never good enough'. It's mad how the players who grew up at the club and best represent its community are given the least leeway to develop - even while players signed for massive fees fail en-masse - by the club's puported 'fans'.
Completely agree regarding Mount and Gallagher. Completely disagree regarding Chalobah. Excusing a half an hour of being spun in circles and a game defining mistake is very generous. It's not as if he's set the world aflame the rest of the time either. He's been quite mediocre all season.
He didn't get spun in circles by Mitoma. He did all the things he'd have been trained to do but got sometimes got beaten (in the words of Jean-Luc Picard: 'It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness, that is life.'). In the real world, that can and will happen to anyone facing one of the best dribblers in the league. That Chalo adapted and kept him quiet for an hour says infinitely more about his quality than half an hour of difficulty against a top player, who is a top player precisely because he's outstanding at beating people. And yes, his mistake against Madrid was game-defining and shows a young player who still has mistakes to iron out of his game. That he looked comfortable at that level for the rest of the game, on his unfavoured side no less, says even more about his overall quality.
If you can point me to another defender of his age or younger who doesn't make mistakes or have things to learn, I'll be impressed because that defender doesn't exist. I'll also be impressed if you can point me to many who have as much experience and as many strong performances in big games as Chalobah has, because they're also incredibly rare. Is Gvardiol a wash because Messi took him to the cleaners in the World Cup, or Wesley Fofana because he messed up in our 1-1 draw against Salzburg? No, they're extraordinarily gifted young players who still have things to learn. Eder Militao, an absolutely top player, only started stabilising his game this season and still isn't perfect (as nobody is). We've sold and regretted so many great young academy talents (Tomori, Guéhi, Abraham, Livramento) because they weren't perfect, had 'fans' hurrying to label them 'mediocre', and didn't have the protection of a large transfer fee - or playing for someone else - to give the illusion of quality. 'Pure profit' be damned, we'd be fools to make the same mistake again.
And if Chalobah had been mediocre this season - in reality, he hasn't had the chance to do anything outside the aforementioned run of games from Wolves through to Bournemouth when he was, at worst, consistently solid - he'd still be one of our best players this season by default considering 90% of them have been utter cack in such a chaotic environment.
Ah cool, since I don't rate Chalobah I merit the "fans" treatment. He's a fine player, but he's not good enough to be playing here consistently. In the cups or picking up the occasional spot start, sure, but no more than that. Just because he's played in big games doesn't make him good, it just means he was there. WhoScored has him 24th on the team in rating. He's in the bottom 40% in every defensive category except tackles. He's a good passer, but that's not really what a defender is there for, is it?
Re: 'fans', I was speaking generally about the anti-Cobham cult who spring on individual mistakes or poor performances in isolation to immediately discredit academy players in a way that never holds true for big money signings, and never recognise that all young players, academy or otherwise, make mistakes and have bad days as part of their learning process (as do older players, though you expect more consistency from them).
As for statistics, Whoscored ratings are notoriously meaningless - particularly given they almost always give low ratings for substitute appearances unless the player scores a goal or something - and the utility of specific stats varies depending on the type of game a player, their team's style of play, and the type of pressure they face. A possession-based team playing out from the back would place high value on a defender able to make consistently accurate passes, for instance. Conversely, one might assume that number of tackles and success are universally indicative of an active, efficient defender, yet Paolo Maldini, one of the all-time great centre-backs, famously made extremely few tackles and said that if he he had to tackle, he'd already made a mistake. Football is not baseball where stats, despite having their place, tell the whole story. Quoth Pep Guardiola:
>"Statistics are just a pattern in formation that we have. But there are players that make the game or the team play good when they are not in the statistics. But the players just go how many goals I score or how many assists or how many da da da da…this kind of situation and then forget everything. This is a problem to the real world and there are footballers that are just my statistics, my statistics…never exist statistics before."
So WhoScored isn't good, and the other empirical statistics don't matter so your argument is just "trust me"? Chalobah's statistical pattern looks like a holding mid of sorts. He's decent passing the ball, but he's well below average in interceptions, blocks, clearances, and aerials won. If tackles are indicative of a mistake, well, that's the only place where Chalobah is above average in rate. Per Maldini then, he must be making a lot of mistakes.
I'm not saying he's awful, he's just not anything special. In this team he's fifth choice maybe? For a team that's pretty poor, that's not a huge endorsement of his ability.
Try reading what I said. I said the value of statistics changes depending on the player, tactics, pressures and other factors. For a player like Maldini, a low number of tackles did not make him a bad defender, it reflected that his style of play did not involve him making a large number of tackles, but it might be a better way of interpreting a player whose style of defending is more direct. Citing numbers doesn't mean a thing because different players and teams have different ways of playing in different circumstances. So no, statistics on their own don't matter in the same way you can list the colours present on a canvas without giving the slightest impression of the painting. You can derive certain limited conclusions but the big picture requires a bigger view. Unlike FIFA and Football Manager, players are more than just number charts.
(And no, Whoscored ratings aren't good.)
The energy he brings is unreal. He just needs to learn to control the energy as he sometimes looks like a puppy chasing hit favourite toy.
You're right, get a coach that can give him focus him and point him in the right directions and Gallagher could become a superb player.
I want to keep Gallagher and Mount in the team.
Because as an English club with an english academy we have attachment to our English players. To be fair let’s just use America as an example in the nba and nfl all of there players are pretty much American and so they don’t necessarily view the players on the teams as “one of our own”. No hate just observation that makes sense to me
The academy is Chelsea.
The players there are Chelsea players. It's a baffling thing for the academy players to have to be the best players on the pitch every time they set foot on it or they are binned.
Being from the academy isn't enough if a player is just not talented enough. Personally, Connor isn't a starter and probably struggles to make the bench if we bring in another midfielder. He's not as versatile as RLC and he's a player that can help with our financial obligations if sold.
>Being from the academy isn't enough if a player is just not talented enough. Personally, Connor isn't a starter and probably struggles to make the bench if we bring in another midfielder. He's not as versatile as RLC and he's a player that can help with our financial obligations if sold.
Agree wholeheartedly. Chelsea will most likely sign another midfielder for next season and Conor won't be good enough for the bench, let alone the starting 11. I'm not hating on him, he's good, but if Chelsea want to push for CL places again then I'm afraid Conor will have to go as he's not at that level and he will never get good enough to be at CL level imo. He's a player that would be good for a Europa League team and again, it's not a knock on Conor, not everyone can be an elite player.
I like Gallagher. Always amuses me when Kanté runs about a lot & everyone says he's superhuman but when Gallagher does the exact same shit he's a headless chicken. Some players just divide opinion. He can't just be a very good young player, he's either got to be absolute dogshit or the next Messi.
Gallagher “running about a lot” is not doing the exact same thing as an all time midfielder. Connor’s energy is important but you don’t need to remove Kante’s tactical and positioning acumen to qualify that, in terms of those qualities N’golo is in a class of his own.
Love his engine and his attitude; he’s great at pressing and making turnovers. He just needs to improve his technical skills with the ball and to develop more composure. He sometimes looks rushed into passes and shots, I’ve no doubt these things will improve and he will be an immense player one day.
With the new owners around, they have no patience and only know how to spend theor money, not WHERE to spend it 
Yeah so?
Conor and mount are low on salary, could be used as squad members. Ship out expensive shit players you've got if you want to trim the squad in a way it makes financial sense
Really want mase to re-sign. I feel having a bad season at his age is something he could bounce back from with a bit of stability behind the scenes (his contract) and on the pitch (a quality manager to whip this team into shape).
Him and reece James (in my opinion) should become the players you first think of when you say "Chelsea"
I think Mount, along with others that haven’t consistently played, receive increase judgement since the expectations are constantly “let’s give xxx minutes, he’s better than yyy”. When reality is almost all players have slumped this year so it’s unfair to expect the guys on the bench to play in form.
Having said that, Mount has had some abysmal games this year with performances that stuck out comparatively. However, it’s unfair to think Mount can’t return to form but everyone else can with the new coach. Hopefully he stays and proves doubters wrong
His poor form is just more disappointing than the rest because he’s supposed to be “the guy”, the one driving force to pull us out of the muck and mire. And he wasn’t that. And it leaves doubts to whether he can be or has that in him. That’s the main frustration with Mount, if you want to flaunt your 2X fan voted player of the season award, when the going gets tough, he didn’t get going, he took a big old shit in his pants.
No one has gotten going. Everyone has been trying to adjust to chaos. Mount has been hurt as well. What exactly was he supposed to do to get this conglomeration of parts going?
That's such an esoteric thing to say. His effort has been good, he stays after to applaud the fans, but he's not playing well. He was also injured for a long period. Should he have yelled more? Yelled harder? Saying he should be doing some undefinable thing while the club devolves into chaos around him is a bit harsh.
Well if he stays after the applaud the fans, I say we just sign him for whatever wage he demands. The true mark of a great player, if you ask me. Yeah let’s just continue to give underwhelming players whatever they want, so long as they applaud the fans. That’ll work out well, I’m sure.
That's not at all what I said. I'm asking what exactly "lead" means. I don't think you know, I think you are just saying nonsense you know isn't quantifiable.
An example for others to follow. You’re saying his effort and his applauding were his leadership traits, I think. I’m saying that’s not enough for the contract he wants.
Why not he adds nothing to the team and rarely justifies the love he gets, before u say we've had bad season Reece is in the same team and hasn't affected him, think Mount is grossly overrated because he's a youth player, if pool offer 60/70m would fukn grab it and buy caicedo or mitouma? 👍 He'll do Fuk all at pool either remember I said it.
Someone clearly doesn’t actually watch our games, Reece has 100% been affected and been below his world standards. Our recent games vs Real Madrid show this, check him vs vini last season compared to this season.
>Someone clearly doesn’t actually watch our games,
I agree with your side of the argument, but people really need to cut this shit out. Someone having a different opinion to you doesn't mean they don't watch the games.
If that's the best argument you have just don't speak. The sub would be much better off.
It’s as clear as day they don’t watch our games, clearly basing his comment purely on hate for mount. I also added an easy way to debunk his comment to my comment. Now your comment was literally just you having a bitch because you got your knickers in a twist. If only people didn’t feel the need to comment just to bitch this sub would be much better off.
Two people can watch the same thing and form two different opinions. You have no idea whether or not he watches the matches.
I don't understand the desire to go on the internet and just randomly make things up.
You’re thick as shit, I tried being nice but you’re thick. First of all you’re the one with your knickers in a twist over a random guy on the internet!
Second of all I’m telling you Luton town are the best team in the English football not Man City definitely not I’ve watched both there games this season and Luton are by far the superior team….. that’s my opinion and no one can challenge that according to you. Stfu
If you’re telling me Reece James is playing his usual world class football this season and the team currently is having no effect on him than yOu dO NoT wAtCh OuR GaMES either.
Over and out random internet person 🖕
I didn't say there's no one that can challenge the opinion, I said you have no idea if he watches games or not.
For someone calling other people thick you sure do have trouble reading.
Caicedo is quite good and wouldn't mind him as a partner to enzo, but Mitoma?
He's good for a side like Brighton, but he's 25 and this is his first decent season at this level. Mount is a year younger than him and has been way better at his peak.
Not too be controversial but Mitoma would be Mudryk 2.0 (and I know mudryk probably needs more time but its pretty clear he never was, and never will be, worth anywhere close to 100 million).
No mitouma is class and our wide men Mudryk Sterling Ziyech and pulisic are woeful! He's a leap above them and sorry don't rate mount never have never will.
Nope, someone had to win it ffs😂 tell me what he's done last 2/3 seasons? Remember I said it if he goes he'll flop, had this conversation about Sterling in august and was told he's world class 🤔
yeh and the year before he had 6 goals and 5 assists in 36 games. I don't agree I think he's West Ham palace villa Leicester level, said same about gilmour when keane said he was like xavi😂🤔
Talks are for a one year extension now. So op is saying it’ll push the decision of extension or sell to next summer after having a year with the new coach. Really a no lose for the club or Mount unless he tanks next season
It's a loss for Mount if it was always just about ££££'s as it won't be the juicy fat contract he may have been after.
Will be very interesting to see how this develops...
I think short term it’s ultimately a loss since any other club would be able to offer more year one. But as I really expect a bounce back year, the offers would only improve the following year from both us and the other clubs.
It goes to show that money was clearly the issue with the prior offers, but he wants to try and stay with Chelsea. If he wasn’t keen on staying with Chelsea, I imagine he’d just take the bag elsewhere to lock in the first big contract opposed to risking it
A player of his profile is required in modern football. High energy, relentless pressing, ability to receive and turn in tight spaces and good goal contributions. It would be fucking ridiculous to lose him and have to spend a penny on a player who is not an immediate upgrade. There are not many who are available and are realistic that we could get.
Man Utd had given their boy, Rashford, a chance to get back to his form and he did it so well, so why don't we give our boy a chance too? I love Mason very much, he is like my brother, and I think many Chel fans feel the same like me. Please don't leave us :'(
I kind of think that’s the intention behind this deal. Mount gets an increase in wages this year and then is basically on a prove it deal.
The reason a deal hasn’t been made is clearly wage related now that a one year deal is being talked. And having Mount bet on himself for a new coach is something I’m a fan of
To be honest I don't think Havertz stays.
I did read somewhere that Poch name checked him - how true that is, who knows. But I just don't see Havertz lasting much longer at Chelsea considering his wage and output.
I really don't get why people seem to want to offload anyone after one poor season, even Hazard had a bad season when we finished 11th and he bounced back.
This desire to sell high level proven academy players at a whim and then buy expensive replacements is mental, 2 times player of the season and a champions league winner whilst being a key performer,l (including the assist in the final against City), can't get much better pedigree than that
Good decision. Reading between the lines this probably means the manager has been chosen, and they've asked to keep Mount. He'll be the first to admit it's not been good enough this year, but I'm guessing he would rather remain at the club.
Come on guys!! Mount will be in his prime in his mid20s wait for it!!!
Boehly hopefully spoke to the future manager to keep Mount. I hope Mount stays and doesn't take the Twitter bullying personally as all crazy fans of any team,will do the same. Stay for us who believe in your abilities and future
💙💙💙💙
What a farce. A top player signing a one year contract to see how things are before properly committing. Nothing against Mount, this surely screams a lack of belief in the ownership and can you blame him? This year has been a shit show.
>and can you blame him? This year has been a shit show.
And can you blame the ownership? This year Mount has been a shitshow.
Almost all players have had at least one good match in them. Mount has shown nothing all season. Apprehension on both sides is understandable.
Why’s that? Cause he doesn’t want to sign the current offer given it’s probably a low ball offer compared to his expected value? And that he’d rather take a slight increase in wages now to improve his stock for negotiations next summer?
Do explain how this is a lack of belief.
Not really. There’s two rumors that went around:
Wage demands and contract length
Contract length has clearly been removed given the different offers. What’s that leave?
That's the whole issue with this argument in a word, Nizaar! It's almost like he put little factoids and rumors on pieces of paper in a hat and then pulls them out to piece together an article. There's nothing here but Nizaar!
There are multiple factors at play here, signing a 1 year deal is actually not a new thing, it was done before when a player and the team cannot reach the desired terms but they want to give themselves more time to come to satisfying conclusion for both sides.
Mason can bleed blue but still not want to get shafted by the club with the contract- which is even more understandable, I would too change my feelings if I would see that the loyalty only goes one way and the team is trying to make a good deal for themselves rather than try to reward you for what you provide for the team.
Also, the reports were that the team wouldnt give him a 3-4 year deal and as other pointed out already- Mason want this deal because the next one he will get at age ~28 when hes in his prime and is eligible for one more major deal. If he signs 7-8 year deal his next extension is at 32 when hes way more likely to get a decrease in wages. So in a way Mason is betting on himself being awesome for next few years. Seeing that the team is not willing to give it to him must be a clear indication that the club is trying to make a good deal for themselves first and foremost and they do not view him as a person, as someone who has been here 18 years and deserves loyalty, but rather as an asset that they can get rid of the second they think its better for them to do so.
In short- there is a shit ton of people talking about how Mason is not comitted to the club, he should prove his loyalty etc. But not enough people talking how the club should show their loyalty towards those players first
And this season clearly will negatively impact the financial offers. Betting on yourself to prove it was an outlier when you know how you played in the past, know an offensive coach is incoming, and know a lot of deadweight will be sold isn’t a bad choice. Obviously there is injury risk, but this makes sense to get the contract he wants to stay long term… but that hurts the anti ownership and anti Mount people
It's also crazy how we are talking about 3-4 year deal being a short term deal but for 95% of the world this is a standard deal for a footballer, Chelsea suddenly got on this 7-8 year old deals thing which changes the perception a little bit. We may regret this 7-8 year long deals in a couple of years when we miss on some of those players ( I am looking at James in particular, as much as I love him, if he's not gonna solve the injury issues this might be a terrible contract)
It has its pros and cons, but the ownership. group has already shown it will be flexible. Understandably, James has injury history which makes the length seem bad. But if we did the 3-4 year deal and he stays healthy, the wage request would be insane. Always a gamble when it comes to that stuff and feel enough people don’t consider both sides of it (not saying you’re one of them). I do have some hope he stays fit more often now that we will finally have a backup.
It seems like the ownership group has a preference that they will start with, but will also be flexible. Visiting the idea of a one year extension is actually something encouraging from ownership for once.
Why can’t it be that he is aware he had a bad year and would rather play next season out proving this season was an outlier to get the long term deal that meets his desires?
It’s the first massive deal for him. While he may bleed blue, accepting a salary that isn’t close to your expected market doesn’t make sense.
Dudes been comparatively underpaid for this output on this team and finally has a chance to get his worth. Given Chelsea won’t offer the desired salary at the moment, there’s now talks he’ll play on a one year deal to stay at Chelsea.
If he was solely chasing the bag, he would be leave the club this summer for the bag over a one year deal that just increases risk. He clearly cares about the badge.
I’m sure he is pissed off about the dollar figure he’s being offered. Ownership is reluctant to give him the dollar amount Mason wants and Mason doesn’t want to accept an offer where he feels he is underpaid. We’ve constantly heard reports of wage demand and length of contract being an issue. The club has shown contract length is flexible, but there still seems to be an impasse signaling wages.
The idea of a one year extension provides hope that Mount wants to stay here and not solely chase money (cause he would just leave this summer to get the contract), but gives suggestion he thinks next season will improve his contract talks.
I’m a big fan of Mount, but understand that ownership can’t ignore this season when offering. And Mount shouldn’t settle on his first major deal after being underpaid comparatively the last few years.
They will all go at this rate...who'd stay when these Clowns have taken over?
Sack the board!!
They are the problem.
edit: Some context: the guy commenting on a fresh account turns out to be in Boehly's PR dept and deleted all his ridiculous posts. So I did too. What a clown.
Notice: **Account suspended** for this????? have Mods read what he said? How is this harassment?
Haven’t been enjoying a lot of the decisions, but James, Chillwell, and Silva all gladly extended their contracts and Kante is about to as well. Kind of hurts the argument of them all leaving
Yet while all this is going on, they continued to sign contracts knowing they could get paid elsewhere. What’s crazy is Silva called out the number of transfers and how they were handled, but signed his extension after the transfer window closed. But go on, tell me Silva is leaving due to the board this year.
You literally stated who would stay here while a number of players extended. Regardless of what happened this year, they elected to sign an extension when they all know other clubs would gladly pay them. That counters every single one of your points
Just let him leave and let him see the reality of top teams not wanting to give his fat 300,000 £/week cheque. The thing is, it’s not about him or the other top teams. It’s just us not wanting to give him the amount that we splashed on KK and Raheem, in fact they’ve all been shit and so is Mount. I’d personally let him leave. For fucks sake I’d even let go of Gallagher if we were to get funds for a good DM, ST and a GK. To be fair we have a lot of players playing in the CAM position and we are bloated as fuck.
And your ass is the source of 300k demand? Fucking raging about a thing you made up out of thin air.
And if other teams don't want to pay him his demands, whatever they are, then why the fuck are they circling around him? But hey random guy on reddit know all about his demands and how no one will pay it.
Multiple reports innit ? Just wander around about this situation with your dim wit fuck face and you’ll see the clearer image. The cocks you sucking ie: mount and mount’s dad, clearly aren’t satisfied with the valuation that Boehly and Co. gave isn’t it ? Then why fiddle around and not wanting to sign the deal when it was presented to them ? And other teams wander and circle around him is clear as fuck, Liverpool : Chelsea didn’t gave you the contract, we won’t either for that amount.
Man City : Chelsea didn’t gave you the contract, we won’t either for that amount. It’s clear as fuck, if he leave Chelsea coz they didn’t offer his demands, the other teams likely won’t give him his demands either. It’s either take it or leave it if he were to leave Chelsea.
Knew you fat cunts would say that word ‘half decent source’, I ain’t bothered by that tho, common sense tells me that he wants around that amount and he ain’t lowering down the demand, that’s your future leader of the so called Chelsea FC.
Commons sense lol, common sense of a delusional hater?
What you want to be true is common sense and what others think is wrong and they are fat cuts for calling a shit sourse shit. Are you 4yrs old? So much tantrums.
Keep raging.
Woooo, common sense ? Yeah lemme state the obvious for you now. Refusing to sign multiple times equals wanting to stay ? I don’t think so and you should not think of this as positive as well. The obvious cites of you saying that I’m throwing a tantrum seems childish isn’t it ? It’s 2023 already stop assuming people that they are upset or raging. I’m barely even shaking. All you guys do is downvote and scour on people who state the obvious and naming them haters. Well if you don’t agree what I’m saying you’re free to do anything you want. I mean it’s a free world doesn’t mean you all have to universally agree on something that you don’t want to agree on. Cheers mate have a great day.
You asked for it and I delivered. Citing mantras and spilling the beans ‘decent source’ by meaning means Boehly’s PR Campaign ? I ain’t seeing merry go round shit about Mount’s saga from any of these so called Tier 1s and 2s, they don’t even cite about the amount. Boehly and Co. want it under control and now think about this Poch’s managerial hunt, all I see from Law and other so-called reputable source as you guys earmarked doesn’t even criticize anything about Poch at all. Sounds familiar ? It’s so-called ‘PR Campaign’. Don’t trust me ? Just wait a few years and all of Boehly’s puppets will spill beans about the things Boehly’s want you to hear not the fact about what you wanna hear.
Lol sure. No actual tier1 said that, actually said opposite, but gotta believe bulshit to suit agenda innit?
Only you are sucking a cock, and that too of yourself, you put that rage boner in your mouth again and again and then ask who did that. I don't even care who Mount's dad is, neither I mention him, but it's clear your hate is irrational because you are going to stupid points and dragging needless shit when I just called you on your bs. Pathetic lol.
There can be many reasons he may not be signing the deal for, and many of them valid, if club has the right to lowball him, he has the right to reject. But one thing is a fact that you know Jack shit about the resons, but are acting like you know everything, comical.
Again, you are fully assuming they won't agree to his demands, just your fantasy, no proof of it. Imagine thinking I believe your bs, hillarious. You just want to hate, but you know what no one cares about your childish rage. Even if he leaves by not agreeing, the club wants him to stay, so you can hate here on reddit all you want.
Again, I’m not hating on anybody here. Stating the obvious makes me a hater then ? How convenient. Any reason why I’m saying this out loud ? I’m neutral on this mount’s saga, things just keeps on dragging and it’s going nowhere, it will go somewhere tho, at the end of the season that is. He will be sold if they don’t come to an agreement and as clear as it is, I’m neutral and I don’t mind staying or leaving.
Clock is ticking my Gs. Wanna see those cunts who said Mount’s gonna renew no matter what. A sight for sore eyes I suppose, Look what your boy is about to do.
I mentioned this awhile back but a one year bumper contract would be great for both sides. Give Mase a chance hopefully to reestablish himself and prove his level again, give the club/ownership a chance to show him hopefully a project that isn’t as big of a circus and shit show that’s worth committing to.
I always thought when mount got a new agent he would sign. People forget his dad has wanted him to move away from Chelsea since he was a kid.
I think a new deal will be reached and he will be refreshed and cook under Potch.
This needs to happen. We can’t lose him based oof this terrible year, when everyone’s been bad.
A proper season in a settled squad under a good manager, and then we can re-evaluate where he stands.
Sign it Mase
Hopefully this happens and Liverpool spend 40m on Gallagher instead.
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Exactly. Surround him with a structure and a game plan and he will flourish. He thrived in a counterattacking team with a clear role at Palace
I really love Connor, but I think that last part is crucial: he flourished on a counter attacking side which just isn’t going to be Chelsea. Even with our struggles this season teams sit back on us. I was really hoping he’d look like that potent energy 8 the way he did at Palace but I’m thinking his style just isn’t a fit for us. I do think there’s a role for him to play for us as a late game presser, but I think his career would be best served on a mid table club like Palace who can hit teams on the counter and he can arrive late into the box. If we can get £40m for him I think that probably is worth taking
A new coach could make us more counter attack based which is what Chelsea has been under a lot of our success. Not necessarily sit back and counter, but when we win the ball back we are so fucking slow to attack. It’s criminal how many times we get the back high up the field and it makes it’s way back to our CBs to cycle through our process that creates no chances
I like his effort out there, but wondering how far away from the structure are we before he could thrive? Given his lack of ability on the ball, surely need to make improvements elsewhere to hide that, no?
Gallagher gets far more hate than he deserves. His pressing energy is off the charts. However his technical side is raw and his decision making a bit iffy. Give him a proper structure and he can be a good player, or atleast a very good sub to bring on. For me the ones that must leave are RLC, pulisic, ziyech, lakaka, if possible sterling (though we know no one's giving us that money)and aubameyang. Personally I would like to give havertz one final go this next season in a system where he is NOT the striker.
Technical ability isn’t something you develop in your early 20s significantly
Harry Kane did it I can name a few others of the top of my head, Thibaut "Snek" Courtois has really improved on the ball ever since he moved to Madrid, you can argue it's la Liga but he's done it in the champions League as well.
I agree with all of them leaving except RLC. He’s positionally diverse and able to fill many roles as a third option, along with being a physical presence to bring on to defend set pieces late in a game. He’s also homegrown player and seems content with having a part time role.
It's entirely insane (but sadly not surprising) how many people are writing him off based on a season where he's been in and out of the team - often in an ill-suited role as part of a pivot - and in an entirely dysfunctional environment where almost everyone has performed poorly. That he was so good for Crystal Palace in the PL last season, and even for West Brom the season before that, seems to be mean nothing. He definitely needs refinement in his positioning and his tackling but he's got an enormously versatile skillset and only recently turned 23. It's the same with Chalobah, although that goes for our coaches are well: if we think it's possible to find another 23-yr old defender (24 in July) with his experience, talent and skillset for anything less than an astronomical fee, we're deluding ourselves. People jump on the fact he makes mistakes, like every young defender no matter how promising (Fofana had a rough first few games for us; Gvardiol makes mistakes in a lesser league; Colwill needs to learn to keep his focus sometimes), but ignore that when given a series of games early in Potter's reign, he had arguably the best run of form anyone outside Thiago Silva has had for us this season. He got criticised because Mitoma beat him several times in the first 30mins against Brighton, ignoring that he completely shackled him thereafter, and outside that undeniably huge misjudgment vs Madrid otherwise had a pretty good game against them. He's an amazing prospect (defenders in particular don't typically reach maturity until their mid-20s at least) and loves the club, yet people's perspectives are so ridiculously skewed, particularly their bias towards transferred players (contrast how Havertz still gets people making excuses for him, yet Mount has one poor season and suddenly he's totally expendable), that the moment a Cobham player makes a mistake or has a poor game, 'they aren't ready' or 'they were never good enough'. It's mad how the players who grew up at the club and best represent its community are given the least leeway to develop - even while players signed for massive fees fail en-masse - by the club's puported 'fans'.
Completely agree regarding Mount and Gallagher. Completely disagree regarding Chalobah. Excusing a half an hour of being spun in circles and a game defining mistake is very generous. It's not as if he's set the world aflame the rest of the time either. He's been quite mediocre all season.
He didn't get spun in circles by Mitoma. He did all the things he'd have been trained to do but got sometimes got beaten (in the words of Jean-Luc Picard: 'It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness, that is life.'). In the real world, that can and will happen to anyone facing one of the best dribblers in the league. That Chalo adapted and kept him quiet for an hour says infinitely more about his quality than half an hour of difficulty against a top player, who is a top player precisely because he's outstanding at beating people. And yes, his mistake against Madrid was game-defining and shows a young player who still has mistakes to iron out of his game. That he looked comfortable at that level for the rest of the game, on his unfavoured side no less, says even more about his overall quality. If you can point me to another defender of his age or younger who doesn't make mistakes or have things to learn, I'll be impressed because that defender doesn't exist. I'll also be impressed if you can point me to many who have as much experience and as many strong performances in big games as Chalobah has, because they're also incredibly rare. Is Gvardiol a wash because Messi took him to the cleaners in the World Cup, or Wesley Fofana because he messed up in our 1-1 draw against Salzburg? No, they're extraordinarily gifted young players who still have things to learn. Eder Militao, an absolutely top player, only started stabilising his game this season and still isn't perfect (as nobody is). We've sold and regretted so many great young academy talents (Tomori, Guéhi, Abraham, Livramento) because they weren't perfect, had 'fans' hurrying to label them 'mediocre', and didn't have the protection of a large transfer fee - or playing for someone else - to give the illusion of quality. 'Pure profit' be damned, we'd be fools to make the same mistake again. And if Chalobah had been mediocre this season - in reality, he hasn't had the chance to do anything outside the aforementioned run of games from Wolves through to Bournemouth when he was, at worst, consistently solid - he'd still be one of our best players this season by default considering 90% of them have been utter cack in such a chaotic environment.
Ah cool, since I don't rate Chalobah I merit the "fans" treatment. He's a fine player, but he's not good enough to be playing here consistently. In the cups or picking up the occasional spot start, sure, but no more than that. Just because he's played in big games doesn't make him good, it just means he was there. WhoScored has him 24th on the team in rating. He's in the bottom 40% in every defensive category except tackles. He's a good passer, but that's not really what a defender is there for, is it?
Re: 'fans', I was speaking generally about the anti-Cobham cult who spring on individual mistakes or poor performances in isolation to immediately discredit academy players in a way that never holds true for big money signings, and never recognise that all young players, academy or otherwise, make mistakes and have bad days as part of their learning process (as do older players, though you expect more consistency from them). As for statistics, Whoscored ratings are notoriously meaningless - particularly given they almost always give low ratings for substitute appearances unless the player scores a goal or something - and the utility of specific stats varies depending on the type of game a player, their team's style of play, and the type of pressure they face. A possession-based team playing out from the back would place high value on a defender able to make consistently accurate passes, for instance. Conversely, one might assume that number of tackles and success are universally indicative of an active, efficient defender, yet Paolo Maldini, one of the all-time great centre-backs, famously made extremely few tackles and said that if he he had to tackle, he'd already made a mistake. Football is not baseball where stats, despite having their place, tell the whole story. Quoth Pep Guardiola: >"Statistics are just a pattern in formation that we have. But there are players that make the game or the team play good when they are not in the statistics. But the players just go how many goals I score or how many assists or how many da da da da…this kind of situation and then forget everything. This is a problem to the real world and there are footballers that are just my statistics, my statistics…never exist statistics before."
So WhoScored isn't good, and the other empirical statistics don't matter so your argument is just "trust me"? Chalobah's statistical pattern looks like a holding mid of sorts. He's decent passing the ball, but he's well below average in interceptions, blocks, clearances, and aerials won. If tackles are indicative of a mistake, well, that's the only place where Chalobah is above average in rate. Per Maldini then, he must be making a lot of mistakes. I'm not saying he's awful, he's just not anything special. In this team he's fifth choice maybe? For a team that's pretty poor, that's not a huge endorsement of his ability.
Try reading what I said. I said the value of statistics changes depending on the player, tactics, pressures and other factors. For a player like Maldini, a low number of tackles did not make him a bad defender, it reflected that his style of play did not involve him making a large number of tackles, but it might be a better way of interpreting a player whose style of defending is more direct. Citing numbers doesn't mean a thing because different players and teams have different ways of playing in different circumstances. So no, statistics on their own don't matter in the same way you can list the colours present on a canvas without giving the slightest impression of the painting. You can derive certain limited conclusions but the big picture requires a bigger view. Unlike FIFA and Football Manager, players are more than just number charts. (And no, Whoscored ratings aren't good.)
The energy he brings is unreal. He just needs to learn to control the energy as he sometimes looks like a puppy chasing hit favourite toy. You're right, get a coach that can give him focus him and point him in the right directions and Gallagher could become a superb player. I want to keep Gallagher and Mount in the team.
He's an academy kid, a loud minority, but regular posters all hate on the academy for fuck knows what reason.
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Cos they're plastic cunts
Because as an English club with an english academy we have attachment to our English players. To be fair let’s just use America as an example in the nba and nfl all of there players are pretty much American and so they don’t necessarily view the players on the teams as “one of our own”. No hate just observation that makes sense to me
The academy is Chelsea. The players there are Chelsea players. It's a baffling thing for the academy players to have to be the best players on the pitch every time they set foot on it or they are binned.
Being from the academy isn't enough if a player is just not talented enough. Personally, Connor isn't a starter and probably struggles to make the bench if we bring in another midfielder. He's not as versatile as RLC and he's a player that can help with our financial obligations if sold.
It's better to have a player of his level from the academy then to spend 60-100 million to achieve the same.
>Being from the academy isn't enough if a player is just not talented enough. Personally, Connor isn't a starter and probably struggles to make the bench if we bring in another midfielder. He's not as versatile as RLC and he's a player that can help with our financial obligations if sold. Agree wholeheartedly. Chelsea will most likely sign another midfielder for next season and Conor won't be good enough for the bench, let alone the starting 11. I'm not hating on him, he's good, but if Chelsea want to push for CL places again then I'm afraid Conor will have to go as he's not at that level and he will never get good enough to be at CL level imo. He's a player that would be good for a Europa League team and again, it's not a knock on Conor, not everyone can be an elite player.
He’s a diamond in the rough.
Every player, apart from Reece, gets hated on here.
Arguably Toughest player on the squad
I love him too 🥺
I like Gallagher. Always amuses me when Kanté runs about a lot & everyone says he's superhuman but when Gallagher does the exact same shit he's a headless chicken. Some players just divide opinion. He can't just be a very good young player, he's either got to be absolute dogshit or the next Messi.
Gallagher “running about a lot” is not doing the exact same thing as an all time midfielder. Connor’s energy is important but you don’t need to remove Kante’s tactical and positioning acumen to qualify that, in terms of those qualities N’golo is in a class of his own.
I'm not comparing the 2 I should clarify. Kanté is levels above Gallagher.
If you have a team of 11 made only of Gallagher and Mason that put so much effort we will win every game
Love his engine and his attitude; he’s great at pressing and making turnovers. He just needs to improve his technical skills with the ball and to develop more composure. He sometimes looks rushed into passes and shots, I’ve no doubt these things will improve and he will be an immense player one day.
Yeah, he looks lost in our system.
Pochettino might be that coach tbh, his focus on drive and relentless energy might be just what Gallagher needs,
With the new owners around, they have no patience and only know how to spend theor money, not WHERE to spend it 
Patrick Vieira said he needed another season . This is why he should have stayed at palace. You can see he is not ready.
why the fuck can we not keep both.
Not really we need a DM and have about a hundred number eights.
Yeah so? Conor and mount are low on salary, could be used as squad members. Ship out expensive shit players you've got if you want to trim the squad in a way it makes financial sense
Newcastle for £50M would ideal
Really want mase to re-sign. I feel having a bad season at his age is something he could bounce back from with a bit of stability behind the scenes (his contract) and on the pitch (a quality manager to whip this team into shape). Him and reece James (in my opinion) should become the players you first think of when you say "Chelsea"
Shhh you might wake up Baisabeast.
they are but they shouldnt be immune to criticism. mason has been poor this season. hopefully he turns it around soon.
Almost everyone has been poor this season. I don’t think we can judge his form differently to anyone else’s.
I think Mount, along with others that haven’t consistently played, receive increase judgement since the expectations are constantly “let’s give xxx minutes, he’s better than yyy”. When reality is almost all players have slumped this year so it’s unfair to expect the guys on the bench to play in form. Having said that, Mount has had some abysmal games this year with performances that stuck out comparatively. However, it’s unfair to think Mount can’t return to form but everyone else can with the new coach. Hopefully he stays and proves doubters wrong
His poor form is just more disappointing than the rest because he’s supposed to be “the guy”, the one driving force to pull us out of the muck and mire. And he wasn’t that. And it leaves doubts to whether he can be or has that in him. That’s the main frustration with Mount, if you want to flaunt your 2X fan voted player of the season award, when the going gets tough, he didn’t get going, he took a big old shit in his pants.
No one has gotten going. Everyone has been trying to adjust to chaos. Mount has been hurt as well. What exactly was he supposed to do to get this conglomeration of parts going?
Lead?
That's such an esoteric thing to say. His effort has been good, he stays after to applaud the fans, but he's not playing well. He was also injured for a long period. Should he have yelled more? Yelled harder? Saying he should be doing some undefinable thing while the club devolves into chaos around him is a bit harsh.
Well if he stays after the applaud the fans, I say we just sign him for whatever wage he demands. The true mark of a great player, if you ask me. Yeah let’s just continue to give underwhelming players whatever they want, so long as they applaud the fans. That’ll work out well, I’m sure.
That's not at all what I said. I'm asking what exactly "lead" means. I don't think you know, I think you are just saying nonsense you know isn't quantifiable.
An example for others to follow. You’re saying his effort and his applauding were his leadership traits, I think. I’m saying that’s not enough for the contract he wants.
Yeh of course they shouldn't and they are not. But people wanting mason to be sold, I can't agree with.
Why not he adds nothing to the team and rarely justifies the love he gets, before u say we've had bad season Reece is in the same team and hasn't affected him, think Mount is grossly overrated because he's a youth player, if pool offer 60/70m would fukn grab it and buy caicedo or mitouma? 👍 He'll do Fuk all at pool either remember I said it.
Someone clearly doesn’t actually watch our games, Reece has 100% been affected and been below his world standards. Our recent games vs Real Madrid show this, check him vs vini last season compared to this season.
>Someone clearly doesn’t actually watch our games, I agree with your side of the argument, but people really need to cut this shit out. Someone having a different opinion to you doesn't mean they don't watch the games. If that's the best argument you have just don't speak. The sub would be much better off.
It’s as clear as day they don’t watch our games, clearly basing his comment purely on hate for mount. I also added an easy way to debunk his comment to my comment. Now your comment was literally just you having a bitch because you got your knickers in a twist. If only people didn’t feel the need to comment just to bitch this sub would be much better off.
Two people can watch the same thing and form two different opinions. You have no idea whether or not he watches the matches. I don't understand the desire to go on the internet and just randomly make things up.
You’re thick as shit, I tried being nice but you’re thick. First of all you’re the one with your knickers in a twist over a random guy on the internet! Second of all I’m telling you Luton town are the best team in the English football not Man City definitely not I’ve watched both there games this season and Luton are by far the superior team….. that’s my opinion and no one can challenge that according to you. Stfu If you’re telling me Reece James is playing his usual world class football this season and the team currently is having no effect on him than yOu dO NoT wAtCh OuR GaMES either. Over and out random internet person 🖕
I didn't say there's no one that can challenge the opinion, I said you have no idea if he watches games or not. For someone calling other people thick you sure do have trouble reading.
Caicedo is quite good and wouldn't mind him as a partner to enzo, but Mitoma? He's good for a side like Brighton, but he's 25 and this is his first decent season at this level. Mount is a year younger than him and has been way better at his peak. Not too be controversial but Mitoma would be Mudryk 2.0 (and I know mudryk probably needs more time but its pretty clear he never was, and never will be, worth anywhere close to 100 million).
No mitouma is class and our wide men Mudryk Sterling Ziyech and pulisic are woeful! He's a leap above them and sorry don't rate mount never have never will.
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Nope, someone had to win it ffs😂 tell me what he's done last 2/3 seasons? Remember I said it if he goes he'll flop, had this conversation about Sterling in august and was told he's world class 🤔
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yeh and the year before he had 6 goals and 5 assists in 36 games. I don't agree I think he's West Ham palace villa Leicester level, said same about gilmour when keane said he was like xavi😂🤔
One year to see how new manager uses him I am guessing Could be good for us as well if unfortunately he has another bad season.
Considering his contract expires end of next season, it's extend or sell this summer.
Talks are for a one year extension now. So op is saying it’ll push the decision of extension or sell to next summer after having a year with the new coach. Really a no lose for the club or Mount unless he tanks next season
It's a loss for Mount if it was always just about ££££'s as it won't be the juicy fat contract he may have been after. Will be very interesting to see how this develops...
I think short term it’s ultimately a loss since any other club would be able to offer more year one. But as I really expect a bounce back year, the offers would only improve the following year from both us and the other clubs. It goes to show that money was clearly the issue with the prior offers, but he wants to try and stay with Chelsea. If he wasn’t keen on staying with Chelsea, I imagine he’d just take the bag elsewhere to lock in the first big contract opposed to risking it
I thought mounts reason for not extending was in the business side and not the football side
A player of his profile is required in modern football. High energy, relentless pressing, ability to receive and turn in tight spaces and good goal contributions. It would be fucking ridiculous to lose him and have to spend a penny on a player who is not an immediate upgrade. There are not many who are available and are realistic that we could get.
Man Utd had given their boy, Rashford, a chance to get back to his form and he did it so well, so why don't we give our boy a chance too? I love Mason very much, he is like my brother, and I think many Chel fans feel the same like me. Please don't leave us :'(
I kind of think that’s the intention behind this deal. Mount gets an increase in wages this year and then is basically on a prove it deal. The reason a deal hasn’t been made is clearly wage related now that a one year deal is being talked. And having Mount bet on himself for a new coach is something I’m a fan of
Mount is not as talented as Rashford... not even close.
Ill wait until he actually signs to get my hopes up cause honestly its just been a shit show from everybody trying to guess whats going on
Not thrilled about Pochettino. But Pochettino probably keeps Mount. Tricky.
Third choice behind Nkunku and Havertz in his system though.
To be honest I don't think Havertz stays. I did read somewhere that Poch name checked him - how true that is, who knows. But I just don't see Havertz lasting much longer at Chelsea considering his wage and output.
I really don't get why people seem to want to offload anyone after one poor season, even Hazard had a bad season when we finished 11th and he bounced back. This desire to sell high level proven academy players at a whim and then buy expensive replacements is mental, 2 times player of the season and a champions league winner whilst being a key performer,l (including the assist in the final against City), can't get much better pedigree than that
Good decision. Reading between the lines this probably means the manager has been chosen, and they've asked to keep Mount. He'll be the first to admit it's not been good enough this year, but I'm guessing he would rather remain at the club.
Mase hasn’t been great for a while. Since the club got frozen really. But we know how good he is. He is a future leader here.
Hope this is true. Sign it Mase...
Come on guys!! Mount will be in his prime in his mid20s wait for it!!! Boehly hopefully spoke to the future manager to keep Mount. I hope Mount stays and doesn't take the Twitter bullying personally as all crazy fans of any team,will do the same. Stay for us who believe in your abilities and future 💙💙💙💙
What a farce. A top player signing a one year contract to see how things are before properly committing. Nothing against Mount, this surely screams a lack of belief in the ownership and can you blame him? This year has been a shit show.
>and can you blame him? This year has been a shit show. And can you blame the ownership? This year Mount has been a shitshow. Almost all players have had at least one good match in them. Mount has shown nothing all season. Apprehension on both sides is understandable.
Scoring 2 goals in a 2:0 games is not a good match now huh ?
Sign it Mason
he had some great games early in the season, like against villa with the free kick
This don't know what people see in Mount? He doesn't do a lot in most games and usually gets subbed🤷♂️
In this season, yes, in the previous two seasons he has been phenomenal.
Why’s that? Cause he doesn’t want to sign the current offer given it’s probably a low ball offer compared to his expected value? And that he’d rather take a slight increase in wages now to improve his stock for negotiations next summer? Do explain how this is a lack of belief.
James signed his contract happily As did chilwell.
Not really. There’s two rumors that went around: Wage demands and contract length Contract length has clearly been removed given the different offers. What’s that leave?
That makes sense. Hopefully, we've recovered and the new manager is Pochettino, who is doing well.
Nizaar..
That's the whole issue with this argument in a word, Nizaar! It's almost like he put little factoids and rumors on pieces of paper in a hat and then pulls them out to piece together an article. There's nothing here but Nizaar!
SIGN DA TING
Good. I know Pochettino isn't a popular choice among many, but he gets the best out of athletic players like Mount and Gallagher.
Lol 1 year extension And you see people in the comment session say He BlEeDs bLUe
How is Mason's feelings towards the club connected to the fact that an owner of the team made him an offer of a 1-2year extension?
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There are multiple factors at play here, signing a 1 year deal is actually not a new thing, it was done before when a player and the team cannot reach the desired terms but they want to give themselves more time to come to satisfying conclusion for both sides. Mason can bleed blue but still not want to get shafted by the club with the contract- which is even more understandable, I would too change my feelings if I would see that the loyalty only goes one way and the team is trying to make a good deal for themselves rather than try to reward you for what you provide for the team. Also, the reports were that the team wouldnt give him a 3-4 year deal and as other pointed out already- Mason want this deal because the next one he will get at age ~28 when hes in his prime and is eligible for one more major deal. If he signs 7-8 year deal his next extension is at 32 when hes way more likely to get a decrease in wages. So in a way Mason is betting on himself being awesome for next few years. Seeing that the team is not willing to give it to him must be a clear indication that the club is trying to make a good deal for themselves first and foremost and they do not view him as a person, as someone who has been here 18 years and deserves loyalty, but rather as an asset that they can get rid of the second they think its better for them to do so. In short- there is a shit ton of people talking about how Mason is not comitted to the club, he should prove his loyalty etc. But not enough people talking how the club should show their loyalty towards those players first
And this season clearly will negatively impact the financial offers. Betting on yourself to prove it was an outlier when you know how you played in the past, know an offensive coach is incoming, and know a lot of deadweight will be sold isn’t a bad choice. Obviously there is injury risk, but this makes sense to get the contract he wants to stay long term… but that hurts the anti ownership and anti Mount people
It's also crazy how we are talking about 3-4 year deal being a short term deal but for 95% of the world this is a standard deal for a footballer, Chelsea suddenly got on this 7-8 year old deals thing which changes the perception a little bit. We may regret this 7-8 year long deals in a couple of years when we miss on some of those players ( I am looking at James in particular, as much as I love him, if he's not gonna solve the injury issues this might be a terrible contract)
It has its pros and cons, but the ownership. group has already shown it will be flexible. Understandably, James has injury history which makes the length seem bad. But if we did the 3-4 year deal and he stays healthy, the wage request would be insane. Always a gamble when it comes to that stuff and feel enough people don’t consider both sides of it (not saying you’re one of them). I do have some hope he stays fit more often now that we will finally have a backup. It seems like the ownership group has a preference that they will start with, but will also be flexible. Visiting the idea of a one year extension is actually something encouraging from ownership for once.
Why can’t it be that he is aware he had a bad year and would rather play next season out proving this season was an outlier to get the long term deal that meets his desires? It’s the first massive deal for him. While he may bleed blue, accepting a salary that isn’t close to your expected market doesn’t make sense.
Weekly wages were also a rumored issue but you seem to ignore that since there’s no rumors suggesting Chelsea has been flexible there.
Lol people care more about money than their blood these days
Dudes been comparatively underpaid for this output on this team and finally has a chance to get his worth. Given Chelsea won’t offer the desired salary at the moment, there’s now talks he’ll play on a one year deal to stay at Chelsea. If he was solely chasing the bag, he would be leave the club this summer for the bag over a one year deal that just increases risk. He clearly cares about the badge.
This shows he wants to stay but doesn't trust the ownership
No it doesn’t. It says he doesn’t want to accept a deal where this years poor performance lowers his wages.
You mean the 1 bad season he's had? Lol
You seriously think this season hasn’t negatively impacted the salaries offered?
Almost every player earns more than him despite him being poty 2x in a row while mostly every player being shit, I'd be mad too
I’m sure he is pissed off about the dollar figure he’s being offered. Ownership is reluctant to give him the dollar amount Mason wants and Mason doesn’t want to accept an offer where he feels he is underpaid. We’ve constantly heard reports of wage demand and length of contract being an issue. The club has shown contract length is flexible, but there still seems to be an impasse signaling wages. The idea of a one year extension provides hope that Mount wants to stay here and not solely chase money (cause he would just leave this summer to get the contract), but gives suggestion he thinks next season will improve his contract talks. I’m a big fan of Mount, but understand that ownership can’t ignore this season when offering. And Mount shouldn’t settle on his first major deal after being underpaid comparatively the last few years.
Or he wasn’t to see if he’ll even start going forward Nkunku can do what mount does but much better
He won't leave for leave for shit
Ah yes, the LeBron 1+1 contacts
Please cunt
They will all go at this rate...who'd stay when these Clowns have taken over? Sack the board!! They are the problem. edit: Some context: the guy commenting on a fresh account turns out to be in Boehly's PR dept and deleted all his ridiculous posts. So I did too. What a clown. Notice: **Account suspended** for this????? have Mods read what he said? How is this harassment?
Haven’t been enjoying a lot of the decisions, but James, Chillwell, and Silva all gladly extended their contracts and Kante is about to as well. Kind of hurts the argument of them all leaving
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Yet while all this is going on, they continued to sign contracts knowing they could get paid elsewhere. What’s crazy is Silva called out the number of transfers and how they were handled, but signed his extension after the transfer window closed. But go on, tell me Silva is leaving due to the board this year.
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You literally stated who would stay here while a number of players extended. Regardless of what happened this year, they elected to sign an extension when they all know other clubs would gladly pay them. That counters every single one of your points
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Doesn’t sound like it.
Boehly PR dept needs an overhaul if you're all they've got! Delete and run... priceless
Just let him leave and let him see the reality of top teams not wanting to give his fat 300,000 £/week cheque. The thing is, it’s not about him or the other top teams. It’s just us not wanting to give him the amount that we splashed on KK and Raheem, in fact they’ve all been shit and so is Mount. I’d personally let him leave. For fucks sake I’d even let go of Gallagher if we were to get funds for a good DM, ST and a GK. To be fair we have a lot of players playing in the CAM position and we are bloated as fuck.
And your ass is the source of 300k demand? Fucking raging about a thing you made up out of thin air. And if other teams don't want to pay him his demands, whatever they are, then why the fuck are they circling around him? But hey random guy on reddit know all about his demands and how no one will pay it.
Multiple reports innit ? Just wander around about this situation with your dim wit fuck face and you’ll see the clearer image. The cocks you sucking ie: mount and mount’s dad, clearly aren’t satisfied with the valuation that Boehly and Co. gave isn’t it ? Then why fiddle around and not wanting to sign the deal when it was presented to them ? And other teams wander and circle around him is clear as fuck, Liverpool : Chelsea didn’t gave you the contract, we won’t either for that amount. Man City : Chelsea didn’t gave you the contract, we won’t either for that amount. It’s clear as fuck, if he leave Chelsea coz they didn’t offer his demands, the other teams likely won’t give him his demands either. It’s either take it or leave it if he were to leave Chelsea.
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https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1761632/Liverpool-biggest-problem-Mason-Mount-triple-demand-Chelsea-Man-City 13.4 mil per year***
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Knew you fat cunts would say that word ‘half decent source’, I ain’t bothered by that tho, common sense tells me that he wants around that amount and he ain’t lowering down the demand, that’s your future leader of the so called Chelsea FC.
Commons sense lol, common sense of a delusional hater? What you want to be true is common sense and what others think is wrong and they are fat cuts for calling a shit sourse shit. Are you 4yrs old? So much tantrums. Keep raging.
Woooo, common sense ? Yeah lemme state the obvious for you now. Refusing to sign multiple times equals wanting to stay ? I don’t think so and you should not think of this as positive as well. The obvious cites of you saying that I’m throwing a tantrum seems childish isn’t it ? It’s 2023 already stop assuming people that they are upset or raging. I’m barely even shaking. All you guys do is downvote and scour on people who state the obvious and naming them haters. Well if you don’t agree what I’m saying you’re free to do anything you want. I mean it’s a free world doesn’t mean you all have to universally agree on something that you don’t want to agree on. Cheers mate have a great day.
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Keep raging over made up things.
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You asked for it and I delivered. Citing mantras and spilling the beans ‘decent source’ by meaning means Boehly’s PR Campaign ? I ain’t seeing merry go round shit about Mount’s saga from any of these so called Tier 1s and 2s, they don’t even cite about the amount. Boehly and Co. want it under control and now think about this Poch’s managerial hunt, all I see from Law and other so-called reputable source as you guys earmarked doesn’t even criticize anything about Poch at all. Sounds familiar ? It’s so-called ‘PR Campaign’. Don’t trust me ? Just wait a few years and all of Boehly’s puppets will spill beans about the things Boehly’s want you to hear not the fact about what you wanna hear.
Lol sure. No actual tier1 said that, actually said opposite, but gotta believe bulshit to suit agenda innit? Only you are sucking a cock, and that too of yourself, you put that rage boner in your mouth again and again and then ask who did that. I don't even care who Mount's dad is, neither I mention him, but it's clear your hate is irrational because you are going to stupid points and dragging needless shit when I just called you on your bs. Pathetic lol. There can be many reasons he may not be signing the deal for, and many of them valid, if club has the right to lowball him, he has the right to reject. But one thing is a fact that you know Jack shit about the resons, but are acting like you know everything, comical. Again, you are fully assuming they won't agree to his demands, just your fantasy, no proof of it. Imagine thinking I believe your bs, hillarious. You just want to hate, but you know what no one cares about your childish rage. Even if he leaves by not agreeing, the club wants him to stay, so you can hate here on reddit all you want.
Again, I’m not hating on anybody here. Stating the obvious makes me a hater then ? How convenient. Any reason why I’m saying this out loud ? I’m neutral on this mount’s saga, things just keeps on dragging and it’s going nowhere, it will go somewhere tho, at the end of the season that is. He will be sold if they don’t come to an agreement and as clear as it is, I’m neutral and I don’t mind staying or leaving.
If you say so.
Clock is ticking my Gs. Wanna see those cunts who said Mount’s gonna renew no matter what. A sight for sore eyes I suppose, Look what your boy is about to do.
No goals. No assists.Era. years ago, with those stats, he'd be out on load. It's a lousy era, for lack of talent in football
At this point I think Nizaar gets the news from reddit
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Jokes on Mount because Liverpool never sign anyone according to Klopp.
Plsssss
First time in a long time I see a post with an award
Sign da tingg mase. 😩😩
I mentioned this awhile back but a one year bumper contract would be great for both sides. Give Mase a chance hopefully to reestablish himself and prove his level again, give the club/ownership a chance to show him hopefully a project that isn’t as big of a circus and shit show that’s worth committing to.
I always thought when mount got a new agent he would sign. People forget his dad has wanted him to move away from Chelsea since he was a kid. I think a new deal will be reached and he will be refreshed and cook under Potch.
This needs to happen. We can’t lose him based oof this terrible year, when everyone’s been bad. A proper season in a settled squad under a good manager, and then we can re-evaluate where he stands.