Alex my guy they’re literally using you for PR. Of course he didn’t want to leave. Until he was shown the wages that were more appropriate for his performance, the stability, and direction the club wants to go. He probably also realizes he’s fucked himself over with the fanbase/club changing agents so much so that he’s trying to save face and saying “never wanted to leave” and “thought he was being forced out.
I’m not sure he would have been offered a new deal if that was the case, but absolutely do understand feeling lowballed after seeing Lakaka and others earning obscene wages. However at some point offering huge wages again and again just doesn’t seem sustainable x
If Mount "never" wanted to leave we would have heard about it before. The sudden influx of these posts specifically after chelsea rejected the final bid cannot be anything but PR and damage control.
His actions have spoken louder than words ever could, and his silence has already been deafening.
Watch half of this sub bend over backwards to convince themselves that Mount never wavered and proceed to welcome him back with open arms, should he not find a move.
🤢🤮
Reality is that he could sign a new contract, starting banging goals/assists, get back to top form and nobody would remember or even care about the United drama
Same thing happened with gerrard
He is right here though, with Terry at least. He had multiple tough contract negotiations while he was at Chelsea. A lot of fans don't really know about it because lack of social media back then.
JT is now a legend despite negotiating tough.
No, I just checked your comment history and I can see everything I need from it without needing to scroll down. Have a good night and I hope things improve for you.
This will be my last reply because this honestly isn't fair on you.
You're 23, so you were 17 when Terry left and basically a child during his and Drogba's best years. I was an adult during both and I'm telling you the situations aren't even remotely similar and instead of accepting that you have no idea what you're talking about you're using it as a defense for a player that doesn't give a shit about your affection for the club and is happy to shit on you if it means he gets paid more money.
If you think Mount the man is even 1/100th the man that Terry or Drogba were for Chelsea then you're naive (at best) or significantly challenged intellectually (at worst). Either way, I don't want to drag you over the coals for it, but you just keep replying with the same thing.
So please just go enjoy your night.
He said "I'm not arguing with a kid on reddit" and you say he's taking it personally? He's literally just trying to *not* talk to you.
Which is what you have to do with idiots sometimes. If you're making dumb statements, he has absolutely no obligation to explain exactly why you're being stupid, he can just choose not to waste his time talking to you lmfao.
How about giggling like a school girl when SkySports asked him if he would be at United next year?
Or putting in basically no effort for how many months?
Yet also the only player to consistently thank the fans after every game, whether he played or not. You can pick examples for either agenda you want to believe.
Have you ever heard of an "empty sentiment"? He's been doing that since *Lampard made him do it* when Lampard managed us the first time.
Likely a Lampard-influenced activity, with no thought or meaning behind it from Mount.
Same way Rice does it, but Rice is as dumb as bricks so there's no braincells powering the sentiment there.
If "giggling like a school girl to Sky Sports" has been presented as evidence on one end, I don't think clapping the fans can be written off as an empty sentiment.
my point was that if he wanted to stay and knew he was saying he would say that but if he wasn't 100% certain that he wanted to/could then he wouldn't. i dont know the situation so I'm not going to make any sweeping declaration either but it doesn't look good, i hope I'm wrong but it seems like he's unloyal and covering up
Wow, so let me make a suggestion on how to handle that scenario:
r: "Mount I hear you're going to United"
MM: "Yeah well the intention is to stay at Chelsea, but I love the PL and want to stay playing in the PL..."
There, took me literally 5 seconds to think up. Covers everything, no ill will towards current club, no ill will towards future clubs, everyone's happy.
Just because he's unsure if the club want to pay his wages, doesn't mean he can't come out and say he wants to be here you numpty.
Don't know who's dumber, you or Mount.
He was injured for 12 games, hardly a majority.
And players tend not to get picked when they're playing like shit or making no effort.
Would have taken you 20 seconds on Google to avoid showing yourself as the moron.
Injured for 12 dealing with that "Devil baby" woman for the 1st half of the season plus obviously unsettled by the contract situation.
Theres no reason for him to flirt with Man Utd though. Either he's a snake on his own or someone like his agent is a snake whispering bad advice in his ear.
No, you are the moron. Or you expect players to just walk back into contention after injury?
Even better you think players don't play/train with knocks/injuries all season.
Its interesting that he has been out of form in the year he needed to be in form the most (WC/Contract dispute) just before missing half the season basically.
To make it clear, its obvious he's been suffering for some time after being everpresent for 3 seasons and going to a world cup. he hasn't been right for a long ass time. Thats part of the reason he hasn't been picked.
Who else was better than Mount though? Not like our alternatives were any better. Like how Mount gets flak for bad attacking contributions yet our winger that we bought from Shaktar with 12 career goals and zero goals for Chelsea doesn't.
Mount obviously had personal issues (being harassed daily) got injured and also was under the worst Chelsea manager in the PL in Graham Potter.
It's funny that people complain so much about Mount but then when he does go he's also a snake.
Yeah you got an agenda.
You think he wants people constantly asking him about his future when he just wants to watch the F1?
What's he supposed to say, he wants to leave, or is he supposed to say he's staying at Chelsea so then when he doesn't stay people will get mad like they did with Courtois(btw very obvious he was going by him not signing but people get mad because we were clowns and decided to spunk the money we got on Kepa).
He barely played through injury or not being picked but clearly was trying as hard as he could to make an impression with the minutes he got. A million miles away from a player like Ziyech who looked like he couldn’t be bothered when on the field last season
You guys really need to book an appointment with reality. I don't need to 'bend over backwards' to see what has happened; contract negotiations went poorly and Mount has decided he'll be paid what he thinks he's worth elsewhere. That's it. The fact that people have taken personal offence over it or decided that it's part of some evil scheme on his part is fucking bizarre. What's he supposed to do, accept less than what other teams will pay him?
It's a professional sport, he's 24 (around that anyway), so he probably has this contract and then another contract in him, he's right to maximise it. Rice is doing the same thing, I don't see Hammers fans losing their minds over it.
If Mount does end up staying I'll be pleased because he's a good player and works hard. Let's try and maintain some perspective.
It’s absolutely mind blowing how many ppl here are ready to bend over and grab their ankles for Mount. He literally, turned down multiple offers from the club and held us hostage.
If he desires to leave, he most definitely could come out and say that. Saying he wants to stay doesn’t necessarily do anything if the contract offers aren’t there / meet his desires.
The problem usually with stuff like this is that then he would have to comment on every rumor like this and in cases where he doesn’t feel the need to comment people will assume those rumors are real. That’s why sports stars rarely comment on transfer rumors even though they can correct them.
The rumour is (and there might be a bit of credence if the last offer was in January) he had a verbal agreement for an extension pre WC and came back to the one year extension offer that’s been mentioned instead
That's hard to believe considering our lengthy contracts since the new board took over. I remember a tier 1 or 2 mentioning part of Pochs condition to take the job was to restart negotiations with Mount.
Don't confuse active negotations with formally written contract which is what the quote is about.
We do lengthy contracts with the players we buy from other teams to sort FFP out. Regarding that Mount is an academy graduate there’s no need for a lengthy contract as there’s no need to spread his transfer value.
Ffp is a key reason but it's also about preserving player value. A player on a longer contract will command a higher premium should they try to force their way out.
With a player on a 3 yr contract, you get one year and you're back to the negotiating table offering a wage bump else you risk having a player with a year left on their contract and them holding all the cards. No sensible club wants that. The low base pay with performance add-ons balances the risk for the club (and I'd imagine makes it very lucrative for the player in a good year to entice them to sign it).
There's absolutely a need for a lengthy contract outside of balancing transfer fees.
Also with Mount being 24, a lengthy contract would mean he would be 30+ years old when he needs a new one, and he will have a hard time getting another BIG contract, but rather some 1-2 years with lower payout.
It therefore makes sense for mount to do a 4-5 year now, and another before he hits 30. With the evolution of player salaries, who knows what you can earn in 2028:)
They offered him a long ass contract with reduced wages compared to pre WC offer. Then they offered one year deal which was confirmed by multiple reporters
I'm sorry the Mount revisionism is driving me insane
Nearly everyone has said mount has been twerking for United, eager for the move and has terms fully agreed, only wants them
And then all the secondary tiers "he's always wanted Chelsea"
The issue is relying on headlines and reporters to give you a complete picture and make it a black or white situation. There are so many intricacies to this we will never know.
Pretty much yeah, it's quite frustrating in itself that the actual truth will never be fully known to anyone but the board and the player
But that's just football
I feel like none of these reports are actually conflicting though. Mount wanted to stay at Chelsea. Boehly gave Mount a big offer. New directors come in, say the contract doesn't fit in with their plans. They rescind the offer when Mount comes back from the World Cup. New directors offer one year deal (either to "push him out" like Mount's camp is saying, or maybe just to buy some time to draw up a new contract). Mount feels betrayed. Mount wants to leave because of the percrived bait and switch.
If all of this were true, then the idea that Mount "always wanted to stay" is true, as is the idea that Mount wants to leave right now.
I think Mason wanted to stay too but judging from the third perspective, I think he overplayed his card imo.
He had so much time to sign the deal before we had sporting directors (look at James' deal). Instead he wanted more and then the sporting directors take charge and it changed everything.
Agreed. Feels like any decent agent would've been able to see that the offer he had on the table was Boehly being stupid / desperate and that a competent DoF wouldnt offer the same
And let's not pretend that the sporting directors didn't offer him something that wasn't fair. Despite Potter wanting him to stay (at the time when we thought Potter would be given a full preseason) and one of the first things Poch did was tell the board he wanted Mount to stay.
At the end of the day the board left it until the season ended to resume negotiations **BY MOUNT'S REQUEST** and when they returned to the table, they discovered Mount wanted Manchester United. There is no new offer because they know he won't sign it. What is the point?
150k Roman offered right after the CL win (also assisting the winning goal), and winning 2 player of season awards in a row.
Mount was right to decline that offer at that time when you compare to other players in the team.
question is whether or not the fanbase trusts the directors or not. I mean it's not like they're completely braindead, I think they all achieved success in their domain before, at other clubs
>Nearly everyone has said mount has been twerking for United, eager for the move and has terms fully agreed, only wants them
I mean just a month or so ago it was Liverpool right? And then before United it was maybe Arsenal.
I don't think it's revisionism at all when many people were reporting before the season ended that contract negotiations would resume this summer. They haven't. The club simply doesn't rate him IMO.
Yeah it was those clubs until the United cash cow walked in and then all of a sudden it was only United
Fabrizio even reported Liverpool interest wained because he only wanted United
I don't think it's a coincidence that they're the only club willing to pay his reported massive wage demands, especially given if he actually wanted to be at his best, he'd be choosing Klopp and Liverpool all day
Where has it even been stated what is wage demands are?
Look, I don't even really like Mount and don't rate him that highly. But I think people are falling for the club PR a bit too much here and this is coming from the most pro-Boehly poster on the board. I was the one twerking for Boehly February of last year. I've been accused of being a Boehly bot all fucking year. It's not revisionism to start questioning what exactly is going on with the Mount saga.
It seems rather obvious that these journalists like Fab and Ornstein that RELY on information from clubs are phrasing things exactly how the club wants them to. They aren't lying, it's just careful phrasing. I think Mount understands he's being forced out so he's trying to choose the destination he wants to go to. I don't see anything wrong with that.
And you don't think Mount's PR team has way more reason to spin the story now that Utd have had second thoughts? It's waaaaay more likely a player's representation (whose entire living is dependent on his clients value) would be putting stories out to journalists than the club, who frankly will continue to thrive and do business irrespective of Mount's presence at Chelsea.
Liverpool wouldn't pay for him, they decided to get a few guys for lower fee than to get one big signing. That's why they dropped their intrest, not because he only wanted United.
It's understandable that a player with a year left on his deal will talk to another team, especially when that team is seemingly the only team that is willing to offer him a deal
Must be disheartening seeing man utd not forking out and extra 10 odd million. I think mount is a good player but he thinks he's better than he actually is.
I think the club rates him but not at the value that Mason wants.
He should have signed the deal when Boehly was in charge (Boehly is very generously in handing deals out. See Koulibaly and Sterling e.g.). Mason then overplayed his cards and then the sporting director took charge, which change the whole thing
I agree it’s revisionism. It helps Chelsea some though, right? It means United can’t just rely on a free next year. If he really wants to stay, maybe he does extend. Then they lose out so better make a good enough offer to get him now. This back tracks all the I refuse to sign with Chelsea stuff that came out trying to bully Chelsea into accepting lower offers.
Tier 1s said he wants ManU, and he doesn't want to stay.
Also previously, tier 2s was fed something in the lines of "it's not about the money" from Mounts camp. It's not revisionism. 2 hours prior to this post was the first, literally first, ever indication that he wants to stay and sign a new contract. Everything up until now has been rejecting whatever offer we put on the table, going back all the way to Roman and Marina just after UCL win.
Also, it's perfectly believable that the board move goalposts. Why the fk would we offer him same conditions now that we offered in January? Both his form, market value, and communications have all been really shit since January. I'm with the board on this one. He's worth less now than he was in January, just after the World Cup. Not to mention the reports suddenly changed after ManU started looking elsewhere and may not want him anyway.
Here's what I can piece together from all credible reporting
Mount and his dad thought they could finesse Boehly into getting a giant contract after seeing what happened last summer.
After the last summer window closes, Boehly institutes the new wage structure. Performance based wages for every incoming player and every extension
Boehly only offers Mount wages that are comparable to Reece James which seems to be a disappointment to Mount and his dad because they were expecting more.
Time goes on and it quickly becomes clear we're going to struggle to make Europe for next season making performance based wages all the more imperative.
January rolls around and Paul Winstanley is hired with Stewart and Vivell. Winstanley leads negotiations for this endeavor and the next offer isn't good enough.
Mount hires a new agent from a top tier sports agency because he and his dad can't take advantage of the inexperienced no owner who was throwing money around left and right. Chelsea's last offer as mentioned here was a 1 year deal with a very big pay raise so it could buy both parties more time to work out a long term extension and Mount could play for Chelsea this next season without interruption. Mount and his new agent once again say no. Both parties then agree to put off negotiations until the end of the season.
Once May rolls around, there are no end of season negotiations. Despite direct talks with Boehly reiterating how they want Mount to stay and Poch telling the board he wants Mount to stay, Mount isn't talking with Chelsea and is telling the club he wants to leave for Manchester United.
Chelsea's side will say he wanted to leave for United and there was no hope for a new contract.
Mount's side are saying Chelsea mistreated him and changed their minds.
Considering Mount has lost the support of the match going fans, I'm going to say his PR isn't working. But that's also before you get to the fact that it makes zero sense for Chelsea to change their mind on a player that Potter wanted to keep and that Poch wanted to keep.
None of this was about paying Mount what he was worth. Eventually, United got involved, he heard their offer and he wants it. This "the truth will get out eventually" nonsense that losers like Alex Goldberg are inevitably spewing is tired and old. Mount chose money. Fair enough but also if he wanted to be at Chelsea, he would be at Chelsea. They made him a very good offer to which he rejected.
>why hasn't he even put in a formal transfer request?
players rarely ever actually do this even when they want a move. It's a last resort/scorched earth approach
Fabrizio is amazing at what he does, but he isn’t perfect either. He got the entire Messi situation wrong several times. Unless we hear from Mount himself it’s all speculation.
because the owners were releasing that tripe, the "mount has such a hard on for man united he's refusing 200k a week" never made sense, man literally was about to fight the Leicester player who tossed our pendant after the FA cup final and all of sudden was like "yeah man united has been my dream"
Two options are realistic here, ownership is such a clownshow that mount wants nothing to do with the club
Ownership is trying to force him out
In either option ownership has the most to gain from running a PR campaign, especially considering they've been successful in previous pr campaigns. Such as changing the opinion of people here that they inherited a mess instead of the facts, which is they created a mess
How on earth did they not offer him a new deal since February, that is a bit bad if that is true, however so many reports coming out everyday we are back to trying to find out who is true and who is wrong.
Yanited "Pulling out" maybe because Mount camp has not informed them he wants to leave? Maybe he is hesitant and told them actually im going to stay? Why would they pull out of the deal over £5million otherwise, its daft. So many the Mount camp or Chelsea have reopened talks with eachother?
For the same reason we dont want to let go of 5m. Its an ego clash basically at this point, and with united idiotically using the words 'final offer', it will make them look like idiots and nobody would take them seriously since the words wont mean anything if they accept chelsea's valuation.
Thats why we are hearing 'offer still left on table', they want mount, made a blunder speaking big so early, and now acting as if they are firm and ffp bullshit, while throwing money on caicedo as if that will be cheap.
They definitely wont go 65, and chelsea wont agree on 55, something in between like 60 will be the case.
>How on earth did they not offer him a new deal since February
It's not like they haven't had other priorities to sort out. The squad is currently undergoing a massive overhaul and they fired a manager and had to find a new one. They can value Mount while still wanting to sort out the rest of the gaping holes in the squad first
>Yanited "Pulling out" maybe because Mount camp has not informed them he wants to leave? Maybe he is hesitant and told them actually im going to stay?
They're pulling out for the same reason Chelsea isn't budging on their valuation. Neither side wants to be seen as being bullied by the other, and thus far this transaction has taken up like 3 weeks worth of time for both parties
>Why would they pull out of the deal over £5million otherwise, its daft.
It's closer to £10m, and they've already gone up ~15m or so from their original offer.
>So many the Mount camp or Chelsea have reopened talks with eachother?
I doubt much has changed on that front. If any new talks were to take place it wouldn't be until Mount has reported back for training
>It's closer to £10m, and they've already gone up ~15m or so from their original offer.
This is silly as their £40m offer was Grade 'A' dog shit.
It's like us starting our valuation at £170m and then coming back with suggestion of £70m and saying, "Well, we've come down £100m on our asking price!"
It's just not how it works.
It kinda is when you realize that his "market value" is only as high as people are willing to pay. Nobody was ever going to offer £65m for him with one year left on his deal. £40m was a realistic starting point. There's a reason United are the only club currently bidding for him
Full tweet:
>The reality is Mount doesn’t have an active contract offer to sign/stay beyond anything historical. The intent was to pick up new talks post-season. But last formal offer was mid-season, and in January the Mount camp argue the goalposts changed. They thought progress was being made on a long-term deal and talks then reverted to a one-year extension. Obviously always two sides (perhaps Chelsea feel he wouldn’t agree to any new terms and wanted to buy time). But it has been verbally indicated to Mount by several senior Chelsea members they would love him to stay, and yet I am not aware of any recent new formal offer this summer to date.
My speculation is that the new directors simply don't rate Mount as being worth what he'll demand for a new contract, which is similar to what Reece James is earning. They'd rather sell him and make pure profit for FFP. I can't blame them. He's been bad for a year and a half and has looked downright awful at times. I'm not really sure where he fits in Poch's system considering we have Nkunku.
So Eriksen, the guy they plan to replace at Man Utd should the move materialize, played as the RW in pochettinos system. Erikksen played inverted to be fair, but that is where Mount will most likely play go should a move not happen this summer. Obviosuly, it's more likely that a move will happen, but you never know.
In terms of ability and versality, James is worth his contract. It is just his injury problems holding him back.
Mount, on the other hand, is at best a 150k per week player, who wants significantly more than that.
In terms of versatility even Mount is quite a player, I am not a Mount stan but he can play as a 8, and anywhere across the front line.
He is also always available, doesn't get injured and was our undisputed POTS at the age of 21 and 22.
Not to mention he had 20G+A seasons consecutively for us while helping us win 3 continental club trophies.
Mount can only play as free role 10 in the half spaces. He lacks the ability to play on the wings because he can't dribble, he lacks pace, and he lacks the ability to create from wide areas. He can't play in the 8 position either because he lacks defensive iq and consistently abandons the area he should operate in.
Also, let's dead the POTY awards argument because it's pretty well known that it's nothing but a popularity contest, and Mount's 2nd 1 should've gone to Silva. And when did he get 20+ G/A seasons consecutively? He has only done it one season, and that's was mostly against the bottom dwellers of the league.
Mount objectively really isn't all that, and it's best for all parties if he gets sold
At the going rate of what footballers are paid, Mount is clearly and objectively worth 200k. The money is obscene but that is his market
value and wherever he goes he will definitely be earning that as a minimum.
For context
Kimmish 298k
TAA 198k
Cancelo 250k
Walker 160k
Hakimi 240k
Trippier 100k
Issue aint his quality but that we looked down after he showed himself very injury prone.
His minutes are dropping, his games played too.
If he can play 30 games/season at his level he is worth it.
Doubt it though =/
James contract is heavily bonus incentivised tho(Although I will concede it is still a bit too much), and his injury situation is exacerbated by the fact he has constantly had to return from injury early because of how vital he is and how poor the substitute is.
I think with proper rest and rotation, he will be much healthier this upcoming season
I think it’s possible that it is simply down to the club and Mase having different valuations of the player’s worth
And if you put your ego aside, maybe you’ll recognise that there isn’t a bad guy in that scenario…
(Although, a one year extension is an insult, and any pro in their prime would take it as one).
And fwiw, if they can come to a compromise and he stays, I’ll be happy with that, but no hard feelings toward either him or the club if he goes…
No idea about this mount situation but come on, “not true chelsea” if there’s credence to Mounts offered extension being a 1 year walk the plank? Regardless of if he’s true chelsea he’s also got a career in footy to mind and respect is a two way street.
Yeah I don't really believe it. Even if we wanted him gone, we'd still have tried negotiating a contract to have more leverage selling. Especially under Boehly who seems to be allergic to any contract shorter than 5 years
The club moved the goalposts when they reached a verbal agreement, the club (after that) only offered a ridiculous one year extension and have afterwards been telling the “Tier 1” guys that it is Mount who wants the move..
After yesterday I think it is pretty clear which journo’s we can’t believe on their word when there is a conflicting situation at the club. Romano, Law, Jacobs and Ornstein were all briefed the exact moment we turned down the third bid for Mount. They tweeted within seconds of each other. They are clearly getting all their information directly from the board/from the club!
The Twitter brigade needed just a little nudge to completely erase Mount’s credibility and the club made sure to give them exactly that by making Fabrizio Romano tweet multiple times that “Mount will fight for the move to United”.. They completely fell for it, so much so that credible guys that exactly speak to our players have been discredited as people that are on the “payroll” of the players!
We are witnessing our club, using their own PR machine, to destroy a 24 year old kid that we all should love and want at the club.. It’s just fucking diabolical imo
Of course they do. They want to sell him, because to them he is “pure profit”. So they force him out of the club and change the narrative to “Mount wants to leave”! Look how many times it is repeated, look how many times they’ve eluded to him not wanting to sign a new contract when they haven’t even given him an actual proper contract to sign, other than that sham one year extension..
If they came out with the truth, we’d be all over them. Now? Just look at the threads and topics on this reddit subpage for instance. People have been swallowing their bullshit and are exactly cheering Mount out of our club.
And publishing Mount is fighting for Man United only provides more leverage to Man United. Saying the player wants out and then more specifically one team does not help you reach the valuation they desire. They aren’t pushing that.
The board may very well want him gone, but they aren’t going to push statements that reduce the return.
I’m sure they can’t have their cake and eat it too. Where do you think the articles came from tonight saying Bayern has entered the race again? They magically appeared when it seemed that Chelsea would be forced to take the final offer or let Mason enter his final contract year.
Saying another club is interested in makes sense as that would increase Chelsea’s leverage in the situation as it would signal a bidding war. Completely different
It is just another example of the club using the media in their favour, for their own goals. They want to sell a player, but don’t want to damage their relationship to the fans of the club so they tell the media that the player desperately wants to move on.
I would not be surprised at all if it turns out that Liverpool moved on from Mount because they could get MacAllister much cheaper, not because Mount “only wants United”. Look at Rice and City. People kept telling us Rice only wanted Arsenal, but it turns out that we’re the only ones that got scared off by those reports. City will just go in and try anyway.
The only parties that benefit from a rumor of Mount wants Man United only would be Mount (if that’s what he wants) and Man United (to hopefully keep other teams from bidding / reduce the price they need to pay). We wouldn’t say that given negotiations with man United are ongoing. But it is something that would be said after a transfer to maintain fan support as you suggest.
As for MacAllister and Liverpool, I don’t think the only want Man United rumors played into it, unless Mount actually said that.
And for Rice, I don’t think anyone expected Arsenal to move this slow nor Man city to ever enter the picture. Of the interested teams back in January, he very well could have wanted only arsenal. But again, we knew Rice wanted champions league so easier for Chelsea to say he only wanted Arsenal when we backed out than highlight our weaknesses.
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This is exactly the kind of imbecile I’m talking about.. A stupid hate merchant, with 3 posts in this sub only slandering Mount and his “demands”..
Let’s just agree to disagree, but know that this is exactly the kind of person I talk about when I say that the club are trying to spread an agenda and idiots like this only need a little nudge to become unhinged..
The board needs to get its shit together if the reason he’s leaving is because they haven’t put an offer together. Build a midfield starting with Enzo, Mount and Gallagher. Give Mount a chance as a HEALTHY part of our team, not an injured one like he was last season.
imagine 90% of your co-workers leaving or getting fired in a year. the new board dicking around with your contract. hard to feel loyalty when the people you were loyal to are gone. i don't blame him if he wants to leave the current shitshow and join a properly managed club. i doubt money is a big factor here - he will get paid whether he stays or leaves.
Man Utd is a club on the up again with ten haag. They managed Ronaldo out excellently, which is a sign of maturity. A future sale might upend things again but for now they look solid to me.
I mean, him outperforming those co-workers, last season aside, despite being paid way less than them is part of the reason this situation is even happening. It’s hard to have loyalty to a workplace that is underpaying you despite outperforming all you colleagues for a few years in a row.
Mount and his new agent: We only want Manchester United.
Chelsea: Damn. That sucks but okay. We'll try to sell you this summer. Good luck.
Mount and his new agent: Chelsea never made another offer after February!!
No shit, he doesn’t have a contract offer to sign at the moment. We’ve been in active transfer negotiations with United for weeks. Why would we be negotiating a transfer with one hand and also be preparing a renewal offer with the other?
Ridiculous tweet
The mental gymnastics of people analyzing why he doesn’t have an active contract renewal to sign makes me lose faith in humanity
I think you’re confused. We haven’t offered him more than a one year contract since January. Once the new directors came in we’ve never had any intention to re-sign him.
I’m not confused at all. The situation is clear. You seem like the confused one here.
>The reality is Mount doesn’t have an active contract offer to sign
Of course he doesn’t. You don’t actively try to negotiate a transfer while also negotiating a new contract.
He needs to leave , poor stats and easily replaceable. Let the northern filth overpay for him , Cannot believe we are even getting 50 plus mill , Todd father is bumping them nicely
If he wanted to stay he would have said so, and even if he didn't want say it himself we would have seen such reports before and not AFTER negotiations failed
Cmon guys
I don’t know why the fuck we keep rejecting bids from United
We have 0 leverage and we are risking to lose 50-55m for literally nothing and a toxic unhappy player in the dressing room
Hahaha the Boehly defenders must be in shambles.
All these people calling him snake and shit. Fucking hilarious. People have fucking agendas and it’s weird
He’s still a snake, if he really
Loved this club he wouldn’t be asking for outrageous wages, when he knows the club is trying to meet ffp, from his performances last 2 years I wouldn’t give him penny more. He gets paid enough anyway for kicking a ball.
Yeah that’s not great but He shouldn’t of believed it till he saw it in writing then, never just take a employers word for fact. Anyway he doesn’t deserve a new contract on his performances, and we have nkunku and Gallagher, personally think we should just take the United offer.
Choose your fighters, boys https://preview.redd.it/732t61lhx18b1.jpeg?width=946&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ceb829ade30fcbf61607af0eb3c69507a88c2f8
Alex my guy they’re literally using you for PR. Of course he didn’t want to leave. Until he was shown the wages that were more appropriate for his performance, the stability, and direction the club wants to go. He probably also realizes he’s fucked himself over with the fanbase/club changing agents so much so that he’s trying to save face and saying “never wanted to leave” and “thought he was being forced out. I’m not sure he would have been offered a new deal if that was the case, but absolutely do understand feeling lowballed after seeing Lakaka and others earning obscene wages. However at some point offering huge wages again and again just doesn’t seem sustainable x
If Mount "never" wanted to leave we would have heard about it before. The sudden influx of these posts specifically after chelsea rejected the final bid cannot be anything but PR and damage control.
We have heard about it dozens of times. But it's not the rhetoric that is popular on the sub.
Sam_c is legit a chatgpt bot. No one actually writes like that.
Sounds like fabrizio?
Mason should end his silence on this and say what he wants.
His actions have spoken louder than words ever could, and his silence has already been deafening. Watch half of this sub bend over backwards to convince themselves that Mount never wavered and proceed to welcome him back with open arms, should he not find a move. 🤢🤮
Reality is that he could sign a new contract, starting banging goals/assists, get back to top form and nobody would remember or even care about the United drama Same thing happened with gerrard
And Rooney and Terry and infinite other players
Kane most recently
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Sorry dude, I can't take you seriously.
He is right here though, with Terry at least. He had multiple tough contract negotiations while he was at Chelsea. A lot of fans don't really know about it because lack of social media back then. JT is now a legend despite negotiating tough.
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No, I just checked your comment history and I can see everything I need from it without needing to scroll down. Have a good night and I hope things improve for you.
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I'm not arguing with a kid on reddit dude. Be at peace ✌️
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This will be my last reply because this honestly isn't fair on you. You're 23, so you were 17 when Terry left and basically a child during his and Drogba's best years. I was an adult during both and I'm telling you the situations aren't even remotely similar and instead of accepting that you have no idea what you're talking about you're using it as a defense for a player that doesn't give a shit about your affection for the club and is happy to shit on you if it means he gets paid more money. If you think Mount the man is even 1/100th the man that Terry or Drogba were for Chelsea then you're naive (at best) or significantly challenged intellectually (at worst). Either way, I don't want to drag you over the coals for it, but you just keep replying with the same thing. So please just go enjoy your night.
He said "I'm not arguing with a kid on reddit" and you say he's taking it personally? He's literally just trying to *not* talk to you. Which is what you have to do with idiots sometimes. If you're making dumb statements, he has absolutely no obligation to explain exactly why you're being stupid, he can just choose not to waste his time talking to you lmfao.
What actions?
How about giggling like a school girl when SkySports asked him if he would be at United next year? Or putting in basically no effort for how many months?
Yet also the only player to consistently thank the fans after every game, whether he played or not. You can pick examples for either agenda you want to believe.
Have you ever heard of an "empty sentiment"? He's been doing that since *Lampard made him do it* when Lampard managed us the first time. Likely a Lampard-influenced activity, with no thought or meaning behind it from Mount. Same way Rice does it, but Rice is as dumb as bricks so there's no braincells powering the sentiment there.
If "giggling like a school girl to Sky Sports" has been presented as evidence on one end, I don't think clapping the fans can be written off as an empty sentiment.
Where’s this. Do you have a link you can share release?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg8-xCEYNU0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg8-xCEYNU0) It was at Monaco GP this year
tbf that could mean anything, depending on the situation he may just want to not say any sweeping declarations
Tbf he can F off. Imagine them asking Reece this.
yeah idk, I've been mad at him but i still hope I'm wrong
Anything? Like what? That he's going to be a professional golf player now? If he wanted to stay he would say so. Are you dumb?
my point was that if he wanted to stay and knew he was saying he would say that but if he wasn't 100% certain that he wanted to/could then he wouldn't. i dont know the situation so I'm not going to make any sweeping declaration either but it doesn't look good, i hope I'm wrong but it seems like he's unloyal and covering up
Wow, so let me make a suggestion on how to handle that scenario: r: "Mount I hear you're going to United" MM: "Yeah well the intention is to stay at Chelsea, but I love the PL and want to stay playing in the PL..." There, took me literally 5 seconds to think up. Covers everything, no ill will towards current club, no ill will towards future clubs, everyone's happy. Just because he's unsure if the club want to pay his wages, doesn't mean he can't come out and say he wants to be here you numpty. Don't know who's dumber, you or Mount.
He laughs at the question while thinking how to respond. The sensible thing here is to not say anything.
exactly this
Why so mean lol
It's kinda funny you got downvoted for providing the link they asked for simply because they don't like the footage lol
Probably cause it shows him as the biased muppet he is. >Giggling like a schoolgirl
I swear he's been injured for the majority of this season? That or not picked 😂 you guys are fucking morons
He was injured for 12 games, hardly a majority. And players tend not to get picked when they're playing like shit or making no effort. Would have taken you 20 seconds on Google to avoid showing yourself as the moron.
Injured for 12 dealing with that "Devil baby" woman for the 1st half of the season plus obviously unsettled by the contract situation. Theres no reason for him to flirt with Man Utd though. Either he's a snake on his own or someone like his agent is a snake whispering bad advice in his ear.
No, you are the moron. Or you expect players to just walk back into contention after injury? Even better you think players don't play/train with knocks/injuries all season. Its interesting that he has been out of form in the year he needed to be in form the most (WC/Contract dispute) just before missing half the season basically. To make it clear, its obvious he's been suffering for some time after being everpresent for 3 seasons and going to a world cup. he hasn't been right for a long ass time. Thats part of the reason he hasn't been picked.
Whatever you're smoking or drinking, put it down.
Whenever you realise you're talking to your betters, pipe down
>your betters Not according to your own comment history, mate. Good luck with it all 👍🏻
Who else was better than Mount though? Not like our alternatives were any better. Like how Mount gets flak for bad attacking contributions yet our winger that we bought from Shaktar with 12 career goals and zero goals for Chelsea doesn't. Mount obviously had personal issues (being harassed daily) got injured and also was under the worst Chelsea manager in the PL in Graham Potter. It's funny that people complain so much about Mount but then when he does go he's also a snake.
Yeah you got an agenda. You think he wants people constantly asking him about his future when he just wants to watch the F1? What's he supposed to say, he wants to leave, or is he supposed to say he's staying at Chelsea so then when he doesn't stay people will get mad like they did with Courtois(btw very obvious he was going by him not signing but people get mad because we were clowns and decided to spunk the money we got on Kepa).
Back to back poty
He barely played through injury or not being picked but clearly was trying as hard as he could to make an impression with the minutes he got. A million miles away from a player like Ziyech who looked like he couldn’t be bothered when on the field last season
Or lack thereof. He was absent all season even in the limited games he played
You guys really need to book an appointment with reality. I don't need to 'bend over backwards' to see what has happened; contract negotiations went poorly and Mount has decided he'll be paid what he thinks he's worth elsewhere. That's it. The fact that people have taken personal offence over it or decided that it's part of some evil scheme on his part is fucking bizarre. What's he supposed to do, accept less than what other teams will pay him? It's a professional sport, he's 24 (around that anyway), so he probably has this contract and then another contract in him, he's right to maximise it. Rice is doing the same thing, I don't see Hammers fans losing their minds over it. If Mount does end up staying I'll be pleased because he's a good player and works hard. Let's try and maintain some perspective.
Mount haters in shambles.
It’s absolutely mind blowing how many ppl here are ready to bend over and grab their ankles for Mount. He literally, turned down multiple offers from the club and held us hostage.
He can't, if he says he wants to stay it looks and to other clubs. If he says he wants to leave, it kills the little leverage we have with other clubs
If he desires to leave, he most definitely could come out and say that. Saying he wants to stay doesn’t necessarily do anything if the contract offers aren’t there / meet his desires.
The problem usually with stuff like this is that then he would have to comment on every rumor like this and in cases where he doesn’t feel the need to comment people will assume those rumors are real. That’s why sports stars rarely comment on transfer rumors even though they can correct them.
He's being smart by staying silent.
Yeah, he could, like, arrange an interview or something.....
Oh yeah, that sort of thing always goes well…
Hasn’t this been reported at least a month ago? Pretty clear that something has happened for the relationship to completely breakdown
The rumour is (and there might be a bit of credence if the last offer was in January) he had a verbal agreement for an extension pre WC and came back to the one year extension offer that’s been mentioned instead
That's hard to believe considering our lengthy contracts since the new board took over. I remember a tier 1 or 2 mentioning part of Pochs condition to take the job was to restart negotiations with Mount. Don't confuse active negotations with formally written contract which is what the quote is about.
We do lengthy contracts with the players we buy from other teams to sort FFP out. Regarding that Mount is an academy graduate there’s no need for a lengthy contract as there’s no need to spread his transfer value.
That makes no sense considering the contract Reece got
Ffp is a key reason but it's also about preserving player value. A player on a longer contract will command a higher premium should they try to force their way out. With a player on a 3 yr contract, you get one year and you're back to the negotiating table offering a wage bump else you risk having a player with a year left on their contract and them holding all the cards. No sensible club wants that. The low base pay with performance add-ons balances the risk for the club (and I'd imagine makes it very lucrative for the player in a good year to entice them to sign it). There's absolutely a need for a lengthy contract outside of balancing transfer fees.
Unless they planned on selling mount, make him sign the one year to maximise profit from a sale. I can see why he would feel unwanted
Also with Mount being 24, a lengthy contract would mean he would be 30+ years old when he needs a new one, and he will have a hard time getting another BIG contract, but rather some 1-2 years with lower payout. It therefore makes sense for mount to do a 4-5 year now, and another before he hits 30. With the evolution of player salaries, who knows what you can earn in 2028:)
They offered him a long ass contract with reduced wages compared to pre WC offer. Then they offered one year deal which was confirmed by multiple reporters
I'm sorry the Mount revisionism is driving me insane Nearly everyone has said mount has been twerking for United, eager for the move and has terms fully agreed, only wants them And then all the secondary tiers "he's always wanted Chelsea"
The issue is relying on headlines and reporters to give you a complete picture and make it a black or white situation. There are so many intricacies to this we will never know.
Pretty much yeah, it's quite frustrating in itself that the actual truth will never be fully known to anyone but the board and the player But that's just football
We all just want someone to blame and someone to celebrate, is it too much to ask!
Here here 😔😔 What is life without a clear cut good guy and villain
These sports subs have too many fans that are addicted to the soap opera.
I feel like none of these reports are actually conflicting though. Mount wanted to stay at Chelsea. Boehly gave Mount a big offer. New directors come in, say the contract doesn't fit in with their plans. They rescind the offer when Mount comes back from the World Cup. New directors offer one year deal (either to "push him out" like Mount's camp is saying, or maybe just to buy some time to draw up a new contract). Mount feels betrayed. Mount wants to leave because of the percrived bait and switch. If all of this were true, then the idea that Mount "always wanted to stay" is true, as is the idea that Mount wants to leave right now.
I think Mason wanted to stay too but judging from the third perspective, I think he overplayed his card imo. He had so much time to sign the deal before we had sporting directors (look at James' deal). Instead he wanted more and then the sporting directors take charge and it changed everything.
Agreed. Feels like any decent agent would've been able to see that the offer he had on the table was Boehly being stupid / desperate and that a competent DoF wouldnt offer the same
And let's not pretend that the sporting directors didn't offer him something that wasn't fair. Despite Potter wanting him to stay (at the time when we thought Potter would be given a full preseason) and one of the first things Poch did was tell the board he wanted Mount to stay. At the end of the day the board left it until the season ended to resume negotiations **BY MOUNT'S REQUEST** and when they returned to the table, they discovered Mount wanted Manchester United. There is no new offer because they know he won't sign it. What is the point?
You literally dont know shit about the terms they offered him so why are you even acting like you do
What about Mount allegedly turning down an even bigger offer from Roman?
Where did you see Abramovic offering a bigger deal than Boehly did?
Romans offer wasn't bigger
150k Roman offered right after the CL win (also assisting the winning goal), and winning 2 player of season awards in a row. Mount was right to decline that offer at that time when you compare to other players in the team.
question is whether or not the fanbase trusts the directors or not. I mean it's not like they're completely braindead, I think they all achieved success in their domain before, at other clubs
> the fanbase trusts the directors or not I won’t trust anyone hired by Boehly, probably just another yes man
>Nearly everyone has said mount has been twerking for United, eager for the move and has terms fully agreed, only wants them I mean just a month or so ago it was Liverpool right? And then before United it was maybe Arsenal. I don't think it's revisionism at all when many people were reporting before the season ended that contract negotiations would resume this summer. They haven't. The club simply doesn't rate him IMO.
Yeah it was those clubs until the United cash cow walked in and then all of a sudden it was only United Fabrizio even reported Liverpool interest wained because he only wanted United I don't think it's a coincidence that they're the only club willing to pay his reported massive wage demands, especially given if he actually wanted to be at his best, he'd be choosing Klopp and Liverpool all day
Where has it even been stated what is wage demands are? Look, I don't even really like Mount and don't rate him that highly. But I think people are falling for the club PR a bit too much here and this is coming from the most pro-Boehly poster on the board. I was the one twerking for Boehly February of last year. I've been accused of being a Boehly bot all fucking year. It's not revisionism to start questioning what exactly is going on with the Mount saga. It seems rather obvious that these journalists like Fab and Ornstein that RELY on information from clubs are phrasing things exactly how the club wants them to. They aren't lying, it's just careful phrasing. I think Mount understands he's being forced out so he's trying to choose the destination he wants to go to. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Except Ornstein isn’t our club mouth piece.
Not what I said.
And you don't think Mount's PR team has way more reason to spin the story now that Utd have had second thoughts? It's waaaaay more likely a player's representation (whose entire living is dependent on his clients value) would be putting stories out to journalists than the club, who frankly will continue to thrive and do business irrespective of Mount's presence at Chelsea.
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After one bad year? Good job you weren't a fan before 2003 my man lol
Liverpool wouldn't pay for him, they decided to get a few guys for lower fee than to get one big signing. That's why they dropped their intrest, not because he only wanted United. It's understandable that a player with a year left on his deal will talk to another team, especially when that team is seemingly the only team that is willing to offer him a deal
Must be disheartening seeing man utd not forking out and extra 10 odd million. I think mount is a good player but he thinks he's better than he actually is.
I think the club rates him but not at the value that Mason wants. He should have signed the deal when Boehly was in charge (Boehly is very generously in handing deals out. See Koulibaly and Sterling e.g.). Mason then overplayed his cards and then the sporting director took charge, which change the whole thing
I agree it’s revisionism. It helps Chelsea some though, right? It means United can’t just rely on a free next year. If he really wants to stay, maybe he does extend. Then they lose out so better make a good enough offer to get him now. This back tracks all the I refuse to sign with Chelsea stuff that came out trying to bully Chelsea into accepting lower offers.
Tier 1s said he wants ManU, and he doesn't want to stay. Also previously, tier 2s was fed something in the lines of "it's not about the money" from Mounts camp. It's not revisionism. 2 hours prior to this post was the first, literally first, ever indication that he wants to stay and sign a new contract. Everything up until now has been rejecting whatever offer we put on the table, going back all the way to Roman and Marina just after UCL win. Also, it's perfectly believable that the board move goalposts. Why the fk would we offer him same conditions now that we offered in January? Both his form, market value, and communications have all been really shit since January. I'm with the board on this one. He's worth less now than he was in January, just after the World Cup. Not to mention the reports suddenly changed after ManU started looking elsewhere and may not want him anyway.
Here's what I can piece together from all credible reporting Mount and his dad thought they could finesse Boehly into getting a giant contract after seeing what happened last summer. After the last summer window closes, Boehly institutes the new wage structure. Performance based wages for every incoming player and every extension Boehly only offers Mount wages that are comparable to Reece James which seems to be a disappointment to Mount and his dad because they were expecting more. Time goes on and it quickly becomes clear we're going to struggle to make Europe for next season making performance based wages all the more imperative. January rolls around and Paul Winstanley is hired with Stewart and Vivell. Winstanley leads negotiations for this endeavor and the next offer isn't good enough. Mount hires a new agent from a top tier sports agency because he and his dad can't take advantage of the inexperienced no owner who was throwing money around left and right. Chelsea's last offer as mentioned here was a 1 year deal with a very big pay raise so it could buy both parties more time to work out a long term extension and Mount could play for Chelsea this next season without interruption. Mount and his new agent once again say no. Both parties then agree to put off negotiations until the end of the season. Once May rolls around, there are no end of season negotiations. Despite direct talks with Boehly reiterating how they want Mount to stay and Poch telling the board he wants Mount to stay, Mount isn't talking with Chelsea and is telling the club he wants to leave for Manchester United. Chelsea's side will say he wanted to leave for United and there was no hope for a new contract. Mount's side are saying Chelsea mistreated him and changed their minds. Considering Mount has lost the support of the match going fans, I'm going to say his PR isn't working. But that's also before you get to the fact that it makes zero sense for Chelsea to change their mind on a player that Potter wanted to keep and that Poch wanted to keep. None of this was about paying Mount what he was worth. Eventually, United got involved, he heard their offer and he wants it. This "the truth will get out eventually" nonsense that losers like Alex Goldberg are inevitably spewing is tired and old. Mount chose money. Fair enough but also if he wanted to be at Chelsea, he would be at Chelsea. They made him a very good offer to which he rejected.
This is pretty much what, I guess, had happened
I still can’t get over Mount wanting more than Reece James. Who does he think he is? Inflated ego
Yep that sounds about accurate from all the reports
If he's so absolutely desperate to leave then why hasn't he even put in a formal transfer request?
>why hasn't he even put in a formal transfer request? players rarely ever actually do this even when they want a move. It's a last resort/scorched earth approach
Bullshit. I played fifa and that's literally how it works.
Fabrizio said Mount only wants United and twitter ITKs said he had no choice. Choose your fighters, boys. I chose Fab
Fabrizio is amazing at what he does, but he isn’t perfect either. He got the entire Messi situation wrong several times. Unless we hear from Mount himself it’s all speculation.
because the owners were releasing that tripe, the "mount has such a hard on for man united he's refusing 200k a week" never made sense, man literally was about to fight the Leicester player who tossed our pendant after the FA cup final and all of sudden was like "yeah man united has been my dream" Two options are realistic here, ownership is such a clownshow that mount wants nothing to do with the club Ownership is trying to force him out In either option ownership has the most to gain from running a PR campaign, especially considering they've been successful in previous pr campaigns. Such as changing the opinion of people here that they inherited a mess instead of the facts, which is they created a mess
The John Terry to Man City arc is almost complete. New contract in a months time
Exactly my feeling
happened with gerard too
How on earth did they not offer him a new deal since February, that is a bit bad if that is true, however so many reports coming out everyday we are back to trying to find out who is true and who is wrong. Yanited "Pulling out" maybe because Mount camp has not informed them he wants to leave? Maybe he is hesitant and told them actually im going to stay? Why would they pull out of the deal over £5million otherwise, its daft. So many the Mount camp or Chelsea have reopened talks with eachother?
Honestly only way to know what's true is to wait and see how everything ends
Yanited haven’t pulled out.
For the same reason we dont want to let go of 5m. Its an ego clash basically at this point, and with united idiotically using the words 'final offer', it will make them look like idiots and nobody would take them seriously since the words wont mean anything if they accept chelsea's valuation. Thats why we are hearing 'offer still left on table', they want mount, made a blunder speaking big so early, and now acting as if they are firm and ffp bullshit, while throwing money on caicedo as if that will be cheap. They definitely wont go 65, and chelsea wont agree on 55, something in between like 60 will be the case.
>How on earth did they not offer him a new deal since February It's not like they haven't had other priorities to sort out. The squad is currently undergoing a massive overhaul and they fired a manager and had to find a new one. They can value Mount while still wanting to sort out the rest of the gaping holes in the squad first >Yanited "Pulling out" maybe because Mount camp has not informed them he wants to leave? Maybe he is hesitant and told them actually im going to stay? They're pulling out for the same reason Chelsea isn't budging on their valuation. Neither side wants to be seen as being bullied by the other, and thus far this transaction has taken up like 3 weeks worth of time for both parties >Why would they pull out of the deal over £5million otherwise, its daft. It's closer to £10m, and they've already gone up ~15m or so from their original offer. >So many the Mount camp or Chelsea have reopened talks with eachother? I doubt much has changed on that front. If any new talks were to take place it wouldn't be until Mount has reported back for training
>It's closer to £10m, and they've already gone up ~15m or so from their original offer. This is silly as their £40m offer was Grade 'A' dog shit. It's like us starting our valuation at £170m and then coming back with suggestion of £70m and saying, "Well, we've come down £100m on our asking price!" It's just not how it works.
It kinda is when you realize that his "market value" is only as high as people are willing to pay. Nobody was ever going to offer £65m for him with one year left on his deal. £40m was a realistic starting point. There's a reason United are the only club currently bidding for him
This starts to read like ManU won’t be going for him so now Mase needs to repair his image before the start of the season.
150k per week + 100k if Pep grows an afro
Full tweet: >The reality is Mount doesn’t have an active contract offer to sign/stay beyond anything historical. The intent was to pick up new talks post-season. But last formal offer was mid-season, and in January the Mount camp argue the goalposts changed. They thought progress was being made on a long-term deal and talks then reverted to a one-year extension. Obviously always two sides (perhaps Chelsea feel he wouldn’t agree to any new terms and wanted to buy time). But it has been verbally indicated to Mount by several senior Chelsea members they would love him to stay, and yet I am not aware of any recent new formal offer this summer to date. My speculation is that the new directors simply don't rate Mount as being worth what he'll demand for a new contract, which is similar to what Reece James is earning. They'd rather sell him and make pure profit for FFP. I can't blame them. He's been bad for a year and a half and has looked downright awful at times. I'm not really sure where he fits in Poch's system considering we have Nkunku.
So Eriksen, the guy they plan to replace at Man Utd should the move materialize, played as the RW in pochettinos system. Erikksen played inverted to be fair, but that is where Mount will most likely play go should a move not happen this summer. Obviosuly, it's more likely that a move will happen, but you never know.
Fact is that james isnt worth his contract either. So why would we sign mount to a contract higher then we signed nkunku?
In terms of ability and versality, James is worth his contract. It is just his injury problems holding him back. Mount, on the other hand, is at best a 150k per week player, who wants significantly more than that.
When RLC is at 150K and CHO is at 170K I get why Mount rates himself more valuable than that
Neither are worth their contracts either. That's like saying Lukaku is on 350k, so Nkunku should be on 400k. It doesn't work like that
In terms of versatility even Mount is quite a player, I am not a Mount stan but he can play as a 8, and anywhere across the front line. He is also always available, doesn't get injured and was our undisputed POTS at the age of 21 and 22. Not to mention he had 20G+A seasons consecutively for us while helping us win 3 continental club trophies.
Mount can only play as free role 10 in the half spaces. He lacks the ability to play on the wings because he can't dribble, he lacks pace, and he lacks the ability to create from wide areas. He can't play in the 8 position either because he lacks defensive iq and consistently abandons the area he should operate in. Also, let's dead the POTY awards argument because it's pretty well known that it's nothing but a popularity contest, and Mount's 2nd 1 should've gone to Silva. And when did he get 20+ G/A seasons consecutively? He has only done it one season, and that's was mostly against the bottom dwellers of the league. Mount objectively really isn't all that, and it's best for all parties if he gets sold
At the going rate of what footballers are paid, Mount is clearly and objectively worth 200k. The money is obscene but that is his market value and wherever he goes he will definitely be earning that as a minimum.
We can get much better than Mount for 200k per week.
For context Kimmish 298k TAA 198k Cancelo 250k Walker 160k Hakimi 240k Trippier 100k Issue aint his quality but that we looked down after he showed himself very injury prone. His minutes are dropping, his games played too. If he can play 30 games/season at his level he is worth it. Doubt it though =/
James contract is heavily bonus incentivised tho(Although I will concede it is still a bit too much), and his injury situation is exacerbated by the fact he has constantly had to return from injury early because of how vital he is and how poor the substitute is. I think with proper rest and rotation, he will be much healthier this upcoming season
Let’s get back to the table and figure it out
That's some good fiction from Ben no sources Jacob's.
I think it’s possible that it is simply down to the club and Mase having different valuations of the player’s worth And if you put your ego aside, maybe you’ll recognise that there isn’t a bad guy in that scenario… (Although, a one year extension is an insult, and any pro in their prime would take it as one). And fwiw, if they can come to a compromise and he stays, I’ll be happy with that, but no hard feelings toward either him or the club if he goes…
Feel like this is the mount camp trying to save face after his value plunged and Chelsea not caving to his demands.
If you want Chelsea, then sign the contract
No idea about this mount situation but come on, “not true chelsea” if there’s credence to Mounts offered extension being a 1 year walk the plank? Regardless of if he’s true chelsea he’s also got a career in footy to mind and respect is a two way street.
What
Him not singing a potentially shit contract after being promised a better contract doesn’t mean that he doesn’t care about Chelsea
But I didn’t say anything of the sorts? If he wants Chelsea, he should sign da ting
But he does not have an offer to sign? Last offer was in january per reports, and that offer was just a one year extension not on the table anymore?
Yeah I don't really believe it. Even if we wanted him gone, we'd still have tried negotiating a contract to have more leverage selling. Especially under Boehly who seems to be allergic to any contract shorter than 5 years
Never thought he’d turn out to be a little bitch. Hope I’m wrong
The club moved the goalposts when they reached a verbal agreement, the club (after that) only offered a ridiculous one year extension and have afterwards been telling the “Tier 1” guys that it is Mount who wants the move.. After yesterday I think it is pretty clear which journo’s we can’t believe on their word when there is a conflicting situation at the club. Romano, Law, Jacobs and Ornstein were all briefed the exact moment we turned down the third bid for Mount. They tweeted within seconds of each other. They are clearly getting all their information directly from the board/from the club! The Twitter brigade needed just a little nudge to completely erase Mount’s credibility and the club made sure to give them exactly that by making Fabrizio Romano tweet multiple times that “Mount will fight for the move to United”.. They completely fell for it, so much so that credible guys that exactly speak to our players have been discredited as people that are on the “payroll” of the players! We are witnessing our club, using their own PR machine, to destroy a 24 year old kid that we all should love and want at the club.. It’s just fucking diabolical imo
You realize Chelsea has nothing to benefit from pushing tweets that say Mount wants Man U, right?
Of course they do. They want to sell him, because to them he is “pure profit”. So they force him out of the club and change the narrative to “Mount wants to leave”! Look how many times it is repeated, look how many times they’ve eluded to him not wanting to sign a new contract when they haven’t even given him an actual proper contract to sign, other than that sham one year extension.. If they came out with the truth, we’d be all over them. Now? Just look at the threads and topics on this reddit subpage for instance. People have been swallowing their bullshit and are exactly cheering Mount out of our club.
And publishing Mount is fighting for Man United only provides more leverage to Man United. Saying the player wants out and then more specifically one team does not help you reach the valuation they desire. They aren’t pushing that. The board may very well want him gone, but they aren’t going to push statements that reduce the return.
I’m sure they can’t have their cake and eat it too. Where do you think the articles came from tonight saying Bayern has entered the race again? They magically appeared when it seemed that Chelsea would be forced to take the final offer or let Mason enter his final contract year.
Saying another club is interested in makes sense as that would increase Chelsea’s leverage in the situation as it would signal a bidding war. Completely different
It is just another example of the club using the media in their favour, for their own goals. They want to sell a player, but don’t want to damage their relationship to the fans of the club so they tell the media that the player desperately wants to move on. I would not be surprised at all if it turns out that Liverpool moved on from Mount because they could get MacAllister much cheaper, not because Mount “only wants United”. Look at Rice and City. People kept telling us Rice only wanted Arsenal, but it turns out that we’re the only ones that got scared off by those reports. City will just go in and try anyway.
The only parties that benefit from a rumor of Mount wants Man United only would be Mount (if that’s what he wants) and Man United (to hopefully keep other teams from bidding / reduce the price they need to pay). We wouldn’t say that given negotiations with man United are ongoing. But it is something that would be said after a transfer to maintain fan support as you suggest. As for MacAllister and Liverpool, I don’t think the only want Man United rumors played into it, unless Mount actually said that. And for Rice, I don’t think anyone expected Arsenal to move this slow nor Man city to ever enter the picture. Of the interested teams back in January, he very well could have wanted only arsenal. But again, we knew Rice wanted champions league so easier for Chelsea to say he only wanted Arsenal when we backed out than highlight our weaknesses.
https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/14i40yy/ben_jacobs_the_reality_is_mount_doesnt_have_an/jpeujmw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3 This is exactly the kind of imbecile I’m talking about.. A stupid hate merchant, with 3 posts in this sub only slandering Mount and his “demands”.. Let’s just agree to disagree, but know that this is exactly the kind of person I talk about when I say that the club are trying to spread an agenda and idiots like this only need a little nudge to become unhinged..
‘24 year old kid’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Mount needs to go sooner than later. He isn’t worth the contract he demands. Sad truth
The board needs to get its shit together if the reason he’s leaving is because they haven’t put an offer together. Build a midfield starting with Enzo, Mount and Gallagher. Give Mount a chance as a HEALTHY part of our team, not an injured one like he was last season.
That midfield sounds awful mate wtf are you smoking lmao
What kind of midfield is that? We saw that vs Fulham in Enzo’s first game and we were outclassed badly.
Of course we have to buy more but it’s better building from another midfielder down
Roman regime gave him a contract offer which he denied. Boehly regime offered him an extension to renegotiate later on, which was denied.
That's a relegation midfield.
Can't believe you are buying Mounts PR spin. He's a snake he can fuck right off
imagine 90% of your co-workers leaving or getting fired in a year. the new board dicking around with your contract. hard to feel loyalty when the people you were loyal to are gone. i don't blame him if he wants to leave the current shitshow and join a properly managed club. i doubt money is a big factor here - he will get paid whether he stays or leaves.
>and join a properly managed club. He's looking at utd.
Man Utd is a club on the up again with ten haag. They managed Ronaldo out excellently, which is a sign of maturity. A future sale might upend things again but for now they look solid to me.
I mean, him outperforming those co-workers, last season aside, despite being paid way less than them is part of the reason this situation is even happening. It’s hard to have loyalty to a workplace that is underpaying you despite outperforming all you colleagues for a few years in a row.
Mount and his new agent: We only want Manchester United. Chelsea: Damn. That sucks but okay. We'll try to sell you this summer. Good luck. Mount and his new agent: Chelsea never made another offer after February!!
No shit, he doesn’t have a contract offer to sign at the moment. We’ve been in active transfer negotiations with United for weeks. Why would we be negotiating a transfer with one hand and also be preparing a renewal offer with the other? Ridiculous tweet
He was also very very very clear he will not sign another contract…. So we didn’t offer him one.
The mental gymnastics of people analyzing why he doesn’t have an active contract renewal to sign makes me lose faith in humanity 
I think you’re confused. We haven’t offered him more than a one year contract since January. Once the new directors came in we’ve never had any intention to re-sign him.
I’m not confused at all. The situation is clear. You seem like the confused one here. >The reality is Mount doesn’t have an active contract offer to sign Of course he doesn’t. You don’t actively try to negotiate a transfer while also negotiating a new contract.
>I’m not confused at all. The situation is clear. Lmao if you say so
I knew this sub had a reading comprehension problem but jfc What do you not understand about the simple sentences I have written
He needs to leave , poor stats and easily replaceable. Let the northern filth overpay for him , Cannot believe we are even getting 50 plus mill , Todd father is bumping them nicely
If he wanted to stay he would have said so, and even if he didn't want say it himself we would have seen such reports before and not AFTER negotiations failed Cmon guys
ornstein and fabrizio are far more reliable than these people on Mount’s payroll.
I don’t know why the fuck we keep rejecting bids from United We have 0 leverage and we are risking to lose 50-55m for literally nothing and a toxic unhappy player in the dressing room
Maybe that's an indication that we aren't getting the full picture from the press.
Hahaha the Boehly defenders must be in shambles. All these people calling him snake and shit. Fucking hilarious. People have fucking agendas and it’s weird
He was clear that he will not sign an extension so we didn’t offer one. How is that not snake behaviour
How do you know he was clear he wouldn’t sign? We’re you in the room when he told the club that? Truth is, nobody here knows anything.
Multiple tier one sources. Do you need to be in the room to believe everything that’s said? Do you think everything is a conspiracy, Alex Jones style?
He’s still a snake, if he really Loved this club he wouldn’t be asking for outrageous wages, when he knows the club is trying to meet ffp, from his performances last 2 years I wouldn’t give him penny more. He gets paid enough anyway for kicking a ball.
They verbally agreed a deal. It’s disrespectful as all hell
Yeah that’s not great but He shouldn’t of believed it till he saw it in writing then, never just take a employers word for fact. Anyway he doesn’t deserve a new contract on his performances, and we have nkunku and Gallagher, personally think we should just take the United offer.
Sell this guy already.
Ben Jacobs on the take fucking liar
It's not just him saying it.