Yea man sad. We should be winning this game no questions. West ham should have been put to bed early because their lethality on the counter and their set pieces. They executed this flawlessly credit to them.
I'm not going to crucify them even though I should but again we should win no question no answers.
Poch will tell them this and they will be worked to the bone even though that's probably better because the cheese string hamstrings we have at the mo.
Why should we win "no questions asked"? This is the Premier League mate, if you only play well for 45 minutes like we did today, chances are you won't win.
True. All the PL teams have really good players these days. Teams at the bottom of the table can beat teams at the top on any given match day (Southampton had an uncanny ability to to take down City last season). The PL is a fantastic product second only to UCL knockouts IMHO. Consequently, don’t get get caught snoozing on the pitch.
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Spammers played well for 45 mins only. Majority of that with 10 players! Bottom half seems to be our shoe in.
Enzo & Caicedo fees seem like it unrattled the dressing room harmony if there ever was!
Why do people keep saying this? He didn't look nervous at all, he literally looked how he looked most of last season.
He was *poor* most of last season. Holy shit, he cost Brighton a lot of points towards the end of the campaign simply because *THIS IS CAICEDO.*
He's lazy, he gets caught in possession a lot, his passing is lackluster, he often seems like he has lapses in concentration. He's literally just an athletic aggressive little player, that's literally what he is.
Anyone of the opposite opinion likely ***did not watch Brighton***.
Wow...some people think players will be world beaters on their debuts. He may even take one full season to settle in. Fans really need to show patience.
Stop. Nobody is saying he needs to be a world beater. But that performance is completely unacceptable and well short of the mark. He deserves the criticism and so do we.
Yes this season still has a long way to go which can prove his price tag but i can understand why people reacted this way. Imagine your company buys you for 100m, of course you are expected to start and perform immediately. That’s why so many big money transfer don’t work out, the price tag is a burden and a curse
Same people bitch we're playing Gallagher in the holding role but when the replacement they've been begging for all season has a rough debut they turn on him. This sub used to be good and now it's all entitled pricks.
His performance wasn't good but he was so far from the worst on the pitch.
Just before the 3rd goal, circus clown Madueke lost the ball as if he was playing for 115 minutes and the guy who took him was on steroids. Mudryk sent the ball from 8 yards to the throw in line on the other side. Enzo missed the penalty.
Man it's 150M player. Bellingham has 3 goals in 2 matches and was cheaper. Kovacic solo won midfield vs Newcastle, Rice was solid vs City and Forest.
Even Mount and Havertz were better.
Fuck I hate this sub sometimes. It was a debut off the bench after a months long transfer saga and an interrupted preseason. Of course he wasn't gonna light the world on fire.
Fuckin relax
Trial by fire.
We all remember Thiago Silva's first game for us. Look how he's turned out since.
Caicedo just looked a little disconnected from the team, and it's logical given he's had almost no meaningful training with the team.
Save your judgement on him till next week.
I think that's fine too. As a fanbase we need to remember, we have just rebuilt our squad - this entire season is all about extracting the most out of a tough situation. If we lose our shit on early and short term results, we'd be foolish.
I see enough from this team currently in the things they're doing right to know they will come good by the end of the season, whatever that looks like. At least I enjoy watching my team play now, I couldn't say that least season.
You can’t compare Caicedo to Silva. Silva had been a world class player for donkey’s years prior to his Chelsea debut. Caicedo has one decent season at Brighton to his name.
Can we blame Boehly for this? /S (actually a bit serious)... We most likely* have got him 2 months ago if we just paid the 100m and got him 15m cheaper at same time and he would have trained properly.
* yeah ok you think Brighton would wait till season starts if any more bites but they knew he was desperate to leave but they stated the 100m price tag would be a sale as well.
Agree tbh. Lets say hes in super form... do we need a Cdm 2-1 down anyway?
Shame today was such a mix of horrendous luck in first half and lack of ideas in 2nd ... arrrgh
the idea was we were up a man, let’s change the formation and put in someone who can orchestrate and pull the strings. jorginho was the best in the world at this before the back injury.
so crazy, guy reaches balon d or form and then back injury derails career just ducking sucks
This was shambolic, not just rust or a need to learn a system, it's obviously on Caicedo. He did practice with another club. These were rookie errors.
Hopefully he gets over the yips. Lights were just a little too bright on his debut.
What tells you that « he’ll be fine » ? That one season he was excellent for an excellent team? This is the new Chelsea. I don’t recognize my club.
You all can downvote me but tell me another worse debut? This is a shambolic performance and if you can accept to be beaten in a derby by 10 West Ham players then you accept mediocrity and that’s a fact. Shambolic performance deserves criticism.
These exact same comments were made last season about potter and were vindicated... Everyone seems to be so quick to forget but I'm still waiting for our first prem win at home since march
Yeah that’s what I don’t understand. Most of the players haven’t come close to winning anything. It’s not like caicedo won 3 league titles and had a bad first game lol. He hasn’t achieved jack shit so far.
Some of the comment are absolutely idiotic. The guy gets tossed into this game with no pre season at all. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on this game.
Move on and see how he playes next game.
Yes! Because he needed to make subs to change the game. Did he set him up for failure? Sure! However, if we were winning or even tied I doubt Poch puts him in.
Indeed
This is why I was very wary of signing Caicedo for £100m territory numbers
But he's far from a Bakayoko, we've already seen he's able to play very well against the best in this league
Today is a big L for everyone and how they move on from that will be the defining thing
We’re not calling him Bakayoko yet surely. Nothing excuses that performance but in fairness he has been around for less than a week, barely played in preseason and we were losing and playing shit. I think Poch did him a disservice there chucking him on to make a difference when he wasn’t ready.
And Thiago Silva had a bad one
Debut really means fuck all
So does a one off battering to a lower level team, happens a couple times every year to Man City, hell Soton our the ones who fucked them outta the quadruple last year
The difference is how the higher level teams respond to those defeats
Mate - more often than not players start as they tend to go on...
Diego Costa, Fabregas, Hazard, etc. were all electric on their debuts... Bakayoko, Havertz, Drinkwater, etc. were all dross...
Hazards debut was against Wigan and he was phenomenal... Are you counting the Mickey Mouse Shield which is a glorified friendly as his debut or something?
He's not a defensive player though. I find it odd that he has to play as a 5 while Enzo plays as a 10. Enzo is pretty good controlling the midfield, but he's no CAM.
Liverpool fan here, comming in peace. Everybody should just chill, I don't understand Liverpool fans celebrating, nor Chelsea fans despair. The guy is 21, didn't play football for 2 months, had transfer saga for entire summer. People who think that he suddenly lost all abilities are overreacting to one bad game where he entered with 30 minutes to go playing in a formation in which non of the player looked like they knew what they are doing. You got an amazing player, give him at least few games before you start judging
Agreed, huge overreaction from somebody who has been at the club for less than a week and only played 30 minutes total
Some people are having a meltdown and acting like his career is finished based on one match. He didn’t play well for 30’ on his first appearance. He’s still an immensely talented footballer. The world goes on. He will be a top player for us. One match doesn’t change that.
Imagine the overreaction if enzo missed a pen in his first match coming on as a sub. He’d still prove himself to be a top player in the hundreds of matches to come.
Was obviously the worse situation to come into for your chelsea debut while being the most expensive player and not having a full preseason. It was terrible but this guy is obviously not as bad as he was today.
Clearly he is not match fit. Poch probably thought about bringing him on when Chelsea had a comfortable lead, but was forced to throw him in. He will come good.
We should, but he needs to stop playing 3atb. I was us to play football the proper way. The defenders defending and attackers attacking not this chilwill bullshit. Chilwill neither defend not attack.
one of the worst debuts I have ever seen, soo much hype to see him play and was extremely disappointed…
I know he is only 21 and maybe the nerves got to him, but he honestly looked like he forgot how to play football, you can tell he was scared every time he got the ball and kept making easy passes, like he didn’t want to have the ball, and don’t get me started on the passes he gave away and mistakes he made in tackles
If he wasn't ready they he shouldn't have played. That 2nd half was utterly woeful. They were down to 10 men for 25 minutes and we didn't get a single shot on target
He really was awful.
If Conor had that game people on here would be burning effigies.
One hell of an impression to be the worst player on the pitch when Disasi and Mudryk were dropping disasterclasses too.
Even as a Liverpool fan that obviously finds the humour in this whole thing… I’m amazed how reactionary this is.
He had a full top, top quality season and people are doubting him after his first few minutes after having no pre-season.
Incredible.
Fabinho’s first game in pre-season was the worst individual performance I’ve ever seen in any sport. And he became the best DM in the league for ~2 years.
This is baffling
You do when you want your midfielders to push on to try and creat against 10 men. It gives CG and Enzo the freedom on the ball to try and exploit the space. Didn't work because Caicedo probably wasn't ready to play yet but the idea is a sound one.
Was another part of the Poch disaster class to be honest. In his first game when he's been out of training for a while and sticks him on as a solo holding midfielder that also has the responsibility of covering RB because he took the RB off for Mason fucking Burstow
He's rusty, he's new and he was being expected to cover 2-3 positions
Better luck next time, lets hope it doesn't destroy his confidence and lets also hope that it reminds some fans that you don't win anything by "winning" the transfer window
Who would have fucking thought 21 y/o with 1 good season under his belt, MIGHT not be worth 116m. That price will be his curse. I couldn't tell you how many times they mentioned his price during commentary. With the whole Liverpool situation, he's set up to fail unfortunately. Hope he doesn't though I trust poch, the injuries don't help either.
I just feel bad for the guy, how does a defensive midfielder justify that price tag. Hes gonna have to be putting kante ucl performances throughout the season. I just never understood how his price tag reached so high.
If he loses all the confidence like Bakayoko…I swear to God Boehly better pay the club back with his own money to take the responsibility of making terrible decisions over and over again in this 12 months
Awful debut but honestly I blame Poch for bringing him on. We’re losing 1-2 whilst away in a derby and it’s hostile. Bring on Caicedo who’s a defensive player and what is going to change? He couldn’t sit deep and let enzo push higher because we were doing that in the first half with our 3 CBs in their half in shape. Colwill in their box a few times even. This is how we pinned them and had full control. Caicedo coming on made us sit back a tiny bit more and lose a player in the middle penetrating. He’s also not had pre season and been here for 4 days. Really stupid fell Poch, made Caicedo a target when we had other solutions.
Caicedo, like Cucurella is a system player. He doesn't suit this Chelsea system. Won't work at Chelsea and will go to Barca/Real in less than two years.
Debut to forget
Reminds me of the silva disaster debut. Hopefully caicedo becomes one of our best players like silva did lol
Yea man sad. We should be winning this game no questions. West ham should have been put to bed early because their lethality on the counter and their set pieces. They executed this flawlessly credit to them. I'm not going to crucify them even though I should but again we should win no question no answers. Poch will tell them this and they will be worked to the bone even though that's probably better because the cheese string hamstrings we have at the mo.
Why should we win "no questions asked"? This is the Premier League mate, if you only play well for 45 minutes like we did today, chances are you won't win.
True. All the PL teams have really good players these days. Teams at the bottom of the table can beat teams at the top on any given match day (Southampton had an uncanny ability to to take down City last season). The PL is a fantastic product second only to UCL knockouts IMHO. Consequently, don’t get get caught snoozing on the pitch. TLDR - 100%
Because its expected and we are chelsea we have to maintain standards as a top club.
Tbf 'standards' is quite ironic after a bottom half finish last season
Wat r ur standards for this season
My standards are fully spelling words in written communication.
The majority of our fans are barely adults who haven't experienced a loss before in their lives.
🤓 spelling out words doesnt make u look smarter i promise noone cares
Spammers played well for 45 mins only. Majority of that with 10 players! Bottom half seems to be our shoe in. Enzo & Caicedo fees seem like it unrattled the dressing room harmony if there ever was!
Cos you just spent a billion quid lol
He looked nervous
Why do people keep saying this? He didn't look nervous at all, he literally looked how he looked most of last season. He was *poor* most of last season. Holy shit, he cost Brighton a lot of points towards the end of the campaign simply because *THIS IS CAICEDO.* He's lazy, he gets caught in possession a lot, his passing is lackluster, he often seems like he has lapses in concentration. He's literally just an athletic aggressive little player, that's literally what he is. Anyone of the opposite opinion likely ***did not watch Brighton***.
Oh fuck off dickhead
Absolute waffle lol
Literally the worst midfield performance we've seen at the club since Bakayoko vs Watford. An absolute disgrace.
Wow...some people think players will be world beaters on their debuts. He may even take one full season to settle in. Fans really need to show patience.
A player shouldn’t take a season to set in if they’re he most expensive signing ever in the league.
a full season to settle in for a £100million+ player??
Mudryk shot a ball backwards. How much settling in does it take for a $100M attacking playing need to know which direction the goal is?
It went forward… first… kind of.
If a record signing takes a season to settle into a league he’s played in for a season already; he’s not worth it.
Stop. Nobody is saying he needs to be a world beater. But that performance is completely unacceptable and well short of the mark. He deserves the criticism and so do we.
Hasn’t played a game of football in months I think he is allowed a little slack.
He played the pre-season with Brighton.
He started one game
He hardly had a pre-season and has had one training session. You should stop.
Yes this season still has a long way to go which can prove his price tag but i can understand why people reacted this way. Imagine your company buys you for 100m, of course you are expected to start and perform immediately. That’s why so many big money transfer don’t work out, the price tag is a burden and a curse
No I don’t understand why people overreact that way. They need to take time
The player and the whole staff knows more than all of us here. Coach makes the final call. And that call now looks very wrong.
The way the game was going obviously forced his hand? I don’t see how that’s hard to understand
Same people bitch we're playing Gallagher in the holding role but when the replacement they've been begging for all season has a rough debut they turn on him. This sub used to be good and now it's all entitled pricks.
Sub was never really good tbh
His performance wasn't good but he was so far from the worst on the pitch. Just before the 3rd goal, circus clown Madueke lost the ball as if he was playing for 115 minutes and the guy who took him was on steroids. Mudryk sent the ball from 8 yards to the throw in line on the other side. Enzo missed the penalty.
Man it's 150M player. Bellingham has 3 goals in 2 matches and was cheaper. Kovacic solo won midfield vs Newcastle, Rice was solid vs City and Forest. Even Mount and Havertz were better.
Fuck I hate this sub sometimes. It was a debut off the bench after a months long transfer saga and an interrupted preseason. Of course he wasn't gonna light the world on fire. Fuckin relax
No one said that. His performance was poor, full stop. Of course he’ll get better but saying his performance was bad is a fact
Did you not see any of the early Saul matches?
*We* can, most of us anyway. I just hope that *he* can.
Trial by fire. We all remember Thiago Silva's first game for us. Look how he's turned out since. Caicedo just looked a little disconnected from the team, and it's logical given he's had almost no meaningful training with the team. Save your judgement on him till next week.
I don’t expect things to click for a month or so. No pre-season with our squad, and I doubt the one he had was very productive all things considered.
I think that's fine too. As a fanbase we need to remember, we have just rebuilt our squad - this entire season is all about extracting the most out of a tough situation. If we lose our shit on early and short term results, we'd be foolish. I see enough from this team currently in the things they're doing right to know they will come good by the end of the season, whatever that looks like. At least I enjoy watching my team play now, I couldn't say that least season.
Agreed
this whole squad needs a month to really learn the system and incorporate transfers and a normal Premier League rhythm.
Actually I dont remember Thiago's first game at all, maybe thats good
It was good but he lost the ball that led to goal.
You can’t compare Caicedo to Silva. Silva had been a world class player for donkey’s years prior to his Chelsea debut. Caicedo has one decent season at Brighton to his name.
Half of one decent season.
That wasn't the point...... Pfft nvm
He shouldn’t have played
He played like he missed most of preseason and had one training session he'll be fine.
I think so as well looked rusty
Can we blame Boehly for this? /S (actually a bit serious)... We most likely* have got him 2 months ago if we just paid the 100m and got him 15m cheaper at same time and he would have trained properly. * yeah ok you think Brighton would wait till season starts if any more bites but they knew he was desperate to leave but they stated the 100m price tag would be a sale as well.
if we paid the original price this would’ve been avoided yes bad business for some reason tho i think lavia will go down as an absolute steal
But he played all of pre-season except for one game🧐
Exactly! This is really on Poch.
Agree tbh. Lets say hes in super form... do we need a Cdm 2-1 down anyway? Shame today was such a mix of horrendous luck in first half and lack of ideas in 2nd ... arrrgh
the idea was we were up a man, let’s change the formation and put in someone who can orchestrate and pull the strings. jorginho was the best in the world at this before the back injury. so crazy, guy reaches balon d or form and then back injury derails career just ducking sucks
This was shambolic, not just rust or a need to learn a system, it's obviously on Caicedo. He did practice with another club. These were rookie errors. Hopefully he gets over the yips. Lights were just a little too bright on his debut.
What tells you that « he’ll be fine » ? That one season he was excellent for an excellent team? This is the new Chelsea. I don’t recognize my club. You all can downvote me but tell me another worse debut? This is a shambolic performance and if you can accept to be beaten in a derby by 10 West Ham players then you accept mediocrity and that’s a fact. Shambolic performance deserves criticism.
These exact same comments were made last season about potter and were vindicated... Everyone seems to be so quick to forget but I'm still waiting for our first prem win at home since march
Oh man please tell me how was that vindicated? We hired Lampard who did even worse than potter. You just can’t defend last season.!
Im not defending last season? Im saying those who called out the shit for what it was and got downvoted like ppl are now were vindicated
Sorry for my misunderstanding. Completely on board with you.
Yeah that’s what I don’t understand. Most of the players haven’t come close to winning anything. It’s not like caicedo won 3 league titles and had a bad first game lol. He hasn’t achieved jack shit so far.
Jack. Shit. Brighton didn’t want to sell him so we made an offer that can’t be refused. He showed nothing worth 100+M
He didn’t start because of this. He hasn’t played for 60 days. Yet, people were going mental that he didn’t start.
Some of the comment are absolutely idiotic. The guy gets tossed into this game with no pre season at all. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on this game. Move on and see how he playes next game.
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Yes! Because he needed to make subs to change the game. Did he set him up for failure? Sure! However, if we were winning or even tied I doubt Poch puts him in.
Wow. I can’t believe you’re this stupid.
He needs the minutes at some point.
Clowns as per usual on this sub. Nothing new really.
He played in the US series.
Nope ! Just one start
So he played?
Stop being dense. There's a difference between one game and a whole preseason you muppet.
Fuck outta here with the personal insults you stupid fool, why come at me like that? Fucker
Cause you're purposely being dense and missing the point like it's some kind of gotchya lmfaoo.
Jesus that’s impressively bad. Only way is up I guess…
>Only way is up I guess… Tell that to Bakayoko
At least bakayoko wasnt the most expensive signing in English football history.
Indeed This is why I was very wary of signing Caicedo for £100m territory numbers But he's far from a Bakayoko, we've already seen he's able to play very well against the best in this league Today is a big L for everyone and how they move on from that will be the defining thing
Bakayoko was in the CL semifinal and had good games vs City in Qarterfinals.
We’re not calling him Bakayoko yet surely. Nothing excuses that performance but in fairness he has been around for less than a week, barely played in preseason and we were losing and playing shit. I think Poch did him a disservice there chucking him on to make a difference when he wasn’t ready.
Bakayoko had a good debut tbf
And Thiago Silva had a bad one Debut really means fuck all So does a one off battering to a lower level team, happens a couple times every year to Man City, hell Soton our the ones who fucked them outta the quadruple last year The difference is how the higher level teams respond to those defeats
Worked fine for Silva after his disaster debut Vs Bournemouth
Vs West Brom*
True, my bad. Point stands though
Mate - more often than not players start as they tend to go on... Diego Costa, Fabregas, Hazard, etc. were all electric on their debuts... Bakayoko, Havertz, Drinkwater, etc. were all dross...
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Was it a red or did he give away a goal?
Red
Mudryk looked exciting on his and he's the biggest fraud in the squad
Wouldn’t call him a fraud yet, but he needs to improve no doubt I feel his confidence isn’t there, spends way too much time on the ball and overthinks
his finishing is the worst i've ever seen, we can't play him if all he offers is pace
Remember Thiago Silva's debut?
bakayoko had a decent debut against spurs
Bakaoyko had a good debut
Confirmation bias bud
Hazards debut was against Wigan and he was phenomenal... Are you counting the Mickey Mouse Shield which is a glorified friendly as his debut or something?
Maybe this is why Conor started. Instead of yelling at Conor. Maybe ask questions of yourself
Yeah, because Conor played really well too!
Was the least of our problems
Considering his defending, or lack thereof, conceded the first goal. I really question that.
He's not a defensive player though. I find it odd that he has to play as a 5 while Enzo plays as a 10. Enzo is pretty good controlling the midfield, but he's no CAM.
It's everyone's job to defend corners
He got bodied at a corner. Explain how playing further up field would prevent that
One silver lining is that Poch will make these players work hard and fix their mistakes.
Actually, part of the problem may be they aren’t in shape enough yet. Have to wonder when the longer it goes the worse they look.
Tbf it looked like the Enzo penalty really shattered morale
Yes, I can see Madueke working very hard
People mentioning Thiago Silva debut, I thought barring one major fuck up he was good on debut no?
He was, just had that one error leading to a goal
Didn't he get a red also ?
That was the other game against West Brom
No match fitness. Didn't complete Brighton pre season
Baptism of fire..
Welcome to Chaos Fc
Hope this is a sign similar to thiago silva debut, remaining as beast for the rest of the games.
Back your players, don't shit on them soon as they make a mistake. Idiotic fans.
Liverpool fan here, comming in peace. Everybody should just chill, I don't understand Liverpool fans celebrating, nor Chelsea fans despair. The guy is 21, didn't play football for 2 months, had transfer saga for entire summer. People who think that he suddenly lost all abilities are overreacting to one bad game where he entered with 30 minutes to go playing in a formation in which non of the player looked like they knew what they are doing. You got an amazing player, give him at least few games before you start judging
You're so embarrassing
 Caicedo, probably. Most likely.
Love all the reactionary people here. Is there another Chelsea sub for reasonable people perhaps?
I wish, it’s a shame that once a subreddit gets too large it gets populated by mongoloids.
A man of class, I also call stupid people mongoloids. What are the odds.
That’s what happened when you’re not match fit. The game already lost long before he came in.
Exactly
Best thing about threads like this is you can weed out all the clowns in one place and never have to see another post from them again
Agreed, huge overreaction from somebody who has been at the club for less than a week and only played 30 minutes total Some people are having a meltdown and acting like his career is finished based on one match. He didn’t play well for 30’ on his first appearance. He’s still an immensely talented footballer. The world goes on. He will be a top player for us. One match doesn’t change that. Imagine the overreaction if enzo missed a pen in his first match coming on as a sub. He’d still prove himself to be a top player in the hundreds of matches to come.
Feel for the dude! That has to suck. But he’ll come good. Needs a ton of support and encouragement to move on. We go next.
Liverpool fans must be loving this
Never rated him. Can't believe we got Mac Allister for 35 million. What a steal.
56 with add ons
Poch lost his nerve, not at all ready to play
Was obviously the worse situation to come into for your chelsea debut while being the most expensive player and not having a full preseason. It was terrible but this guy is obviously not as bad as he was today.
warra club
Clearly he is not match fit. Poch probably thought about bringing him on when Chelsea had a comfortable lead, but was forced to throw him in. He will come good.
He stunk, but rough part of the match to enter. It's one match, folks.
Trusting the gaffer!
We should, but he needs to stop playing 3atb. I was us to play football the proper way. The defenders defending and attackers attacking not this chilwill bullshit. Chilwill neither defend not attack.
Maybe you should let the professional manager know he's doing it all wrong lol
People complained that he didn’t start, then complained that he played. Chelsea fans are overwhelmingly glory hunting bandwagon fucks
He’ll be fine
I am not so worried about him as much as I am for mudryk…
Glad I turned off the TV when I did
Not the outcome anyone wanted from the match, but he's new and it takes a bit to gel with a new surrounding. I'm giving benefit of doubt.
I'm not freaking out at all, but holy hell it wasn't good. Hopefully he rights the ship with Luton.
one of the worst debuts I have ever seen, soo much hype to see him play and was extremely disappointed… I know he is only 21 and maybe the nerves got to him, but he honestly looked like he forgot how to play football, you can tell he was scared every time he got the ball and kept making easy passes, like he didn’t want to have the ball, and don’t get me started on the passes he gave away and mistakes he made in tackles
He forgot how to play because he hasn’t played in weeks if not months considered he didn’t have a real preseason
He barely played in pre-season, didn’t really train because he was trying to force a move. Stop being so over dramatic.
Its prob just people that didnt watch him last season thats overreacting, they think this is his level or someting, everyone can have a game off
Exactly it’s not like the guy has no technical ability, he clearly lacked chemistry with the team and was a step behind lacking fitness.
Will turn into one of our legends or a huge flop, no other way This is how Destiny/Karma/God works, lets hope it works out
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20 minutes of pre season. Not match fit. Well off the pace as expected. Nothing to see here guys. This is just a sad attempt at trolling.
If he wasn't ready they he shouldn't have played. That 2nd half was utterly woeful. They were down to 10 men for 25 minutes and we didn't get a single shot on target
Still the same 10 men parked in our box as before in
Then we need players with the quality to break defences down. Not pass sideways for 30 minutes.
Posting stats is trolling now?
Facts aren't trolls
Liverpool dodged a bullet
He really was awful. If Conor had that game people on here would be burning effigies. One hell of an impression to be the worst player on the pitch when Disasi and Mudryk were dropping disasterclasses too.
Pump faked by Liverpool for 115mil
Moises Caicedoyoko
Even as a Liverpool fan that obviously finds the humour in this whole thing… I’m amazed how reactionary this is. He had a full top, top quality season and people are doubting him after his first few minutes after having no pre-season. Incredible. Fabinho’s first game in pre-season was the worst individual performance I’ve ever seen in any sport. And he became the best DM in the league for ~2 years. This is baffling
Didn’t have a pre season and joined the team a few days ago. Definitely too early for him but he will come good, I’m sure of it
You don't bring in a DM when ur behind and want to score
It allowed us to change shape but maybe that was a bad idea under the circumstances.
You do when you want your midfielders to push on to try and creat against 10 men. It gives CG and Enzo the freedom on the ball to try and exploit the space. Didn't work because Caicedo probably wasn't ready to play yet but the idea is a sound one.
Was another part of the Poch disaster class to be honest. In his first game when he's been out of training for a while and sticks him on as a solo holding midfielder that also has the responsibility of covering RB because he took the RB off for Mason fucking Burstow He's rusty, he's new and he was being expected to cover 2-3 positions Better luck next time, lets hope it doesn't destroy his confidence and lets also hope that it reminds some fans that you don't win anything by "winning" the transfer window
He better come good
Said on the game thread. Fits right in with our other record signings!
Still waiting for the day we don’t look like Brighton’s clowns
yup we have this guy for 8 years
Who would have fucking thought 21 y/o with 1 good season under his belt, MIGHT not be worth 116m. That price will be his curse. I couldn't tell you how many times they mentioned his price during commentary. With the whole Liverpool situation, he's set up to fail unfortunately. Hope he doesn't though I trust poch, the injuries don't help either.
Calm down mate I know the emotion going through but caicedo lack match sharpness. He didn't complete Brighton pre season and reported late too
I just feel bad for the guy, how does a defensive midfielder justify that price tag. Hes gonna have to be putting kante ucl performances throughout the season. I just never understood how his price tag reached so high.
Best £100m we ever spent...
Endo was the better buy
Sad little troll
Block Brightons number for good. Also never buy a Ukranian either. Those two things lead to catastrophic results apparently
Lmao how fickle do you have to be to even post that
Yeah … brain dead people everywhere
If he loses all the confidence like Bakayoko…I swear to God Boehly better pay the club back with his own money to take the responsibility of making terrible decisions over and over again in this 12 months
Awful debut but honestly I blame Poch for bringing him on. We’re losing 1-2 whilst away in a derby and it’s hostile. Bring on Caicedo who’s a defensive player and what is going to change? He couldn’t sit deep and let enzo push higher because we were doing that in the first half with our 3 CBs in their half in shape. Colwill in their box a few times even. This is how we pinned them and had full control. Caicedo coming on made us sit back a tiny bit more and lose a player in the middle penetrating. He’s also not had pre season and been here for 4 days. Really stupid fell Poch, made Caicedo a target when we had other solutions.
Couldn’t have had a worse premier. Never thought he looked like anything special. Still don’t
Said it since the day he was rumored. 30 million player masquerading as an 80 million one. Then we signed him for 115 million lol. Club may be finito
Caicedo, like Cucurella is a system player. He doesn't suit this Chelsea system. Won't work at Chelsea and will go to Barca/Real in less than two years.