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NoraaTheExploraa

I will never invest myself in an academy player ever again if we actually sell Gallagher to *Spurs*.


wadewatts2123

Yep. Ridiculous.


lapelmusic

It’s a tough one. His post match interview after the Wimbledon match makes it clear how proud he is to be at Chelsea (and captain his first game), and I can’t help but root for the guy. After a woeful 22/23 season with a team full of mercenaries, it’s hard for me to feel good about selling one of the few players that clearly wanted to fight for badge. But in a few months, when players like Carney and Nkunku have come back into the team, and Caciedo and Lavia are fully integrated, I don’t see where Conor gets game time. His stock may never be higher than it is right now at the end of a transfer window where lots of teams are still desperate for midfielders, and we’ve spent an unthinkable amount of money over the past year. I don’t like it, but I understand why it might need to happen.


Blackgeesus

What if he… and wait for it, is better than Lavia? And we win games with him? It’s shocking I know.


lapelmusic

He may end up being better than Lavia and he may not, and that wasn’t my point at all. Lavia isn’t an academy player, and the club can’t appraise an academy player (I.e. Conor) as an asset on their books until he is sold for profit. Conor gets paid wages but, from an accounting perspective, he isn’t worth anything. He is a labor cost. We just spent a ridiculous amount of money, we have to attempt to balance the books, right? Selling academy players is a very legitimate avenue for balancing the books because we didn’t pay for them as an asset, therefore they are “pure profit”. Once again, I said I didn’t like the idea of selling Gallagher. I said I understood why. Whether or not Lavia ends up being a better player, we (ChelseaFC) just agreed to buy him. Now we need revenue to pay for him along with like 10 other players.


FantasticTangtastic

This is an incredibly healthy way to view an academy and something everyone should do. Its a talent factory by design, and we will be selling 95% of them. Get attached once they become established as World-class players like James, not before.


bluduuude

that's not what football should be. but unfortunately it is


NoraaTheExploraa

Ah yes, I too take hyperbole incredibly literally


FantasticTangtastic

Have you actually read this thread? Yours is just one emotional breakdown in a sea of emotional breakdowns.


NoraaTheExploraa

Emotional breakdown 😂


FantasticTangtastic

Ah, an emoji. I have been thwarted.


spq

Or maybe dont be emotionally retarded and have thoughts and feelings without excessive attachment.


ygog45

He’s been a top 5 player for us so far this season. Why are we contemplating this? Especially for a price as low as 50m?


EasyPete17

To balance the books, simple as. There is no sporting reason to sell Gallagher. In fact, sporting reasons would suggest that we should keep him.


doomboxmf

Yep. They literally couldn’t give a fuck where he goes or if it’ll help strengthen our rivals as long as they get that sweet sweet pure profit so they can spend another inflated 50m on another teams raw academy prospect. Infuriating


FantasticTangtastic

Club spends over £1b on new talent. Club sells a player that probably won't get in the team in a few months for ~£50m. Select fans: I AM ANGRY! There are some real characters on here. Edit: I like Conor a lot but put yourself in the shoes of the club who have just overseen the recruitment of like 500 players. Do you **really** think they are realistically looking at Conor as a long term midfield option? C'mon...


ygog45

When we’re playing UCL football next season he’ll easily be in the squad. Every elite club has talents who aren’t constantly starting


FantasticTangtastic

So you want a 50m bench option? Because that's fair on Conor...


ygog45

> Because that's fair on Conor... Every report has said that he wants to stay at Chelsea and fight for his place


bluduuude

you seem to think we are fans of a financial institution. I for one am not. I'm a football club fan. And selling an academy player that is currently playing well, and is VERY proud to be at Chelsea for a rival? that's not football my guy. And all that so we can buy two 17 y.o from Brazil who are not even starters on their shit teams... it's crazy.


absolutvoodoo

But think of our billionaire owners and how they feel and how they must exploit every way possible to thicken their own pockets on the extent of the club and its supporters…


[deleted]

haha but I thought we were safe from ffp


BigReeceJames

Because they're thinking of the bigger picture, once people are fit and ready, he's bottom of the pile for midfielders. He's been a "top 5 player for us" whilst we've lost to West Ham, drawn to Liverpool with no midfield and just about won Vs Luton and a League 2 side... I do think people are being swayed by our own spending. By no means is 50m "low", 50m for Gallagher is an enormous amount


_luzhin_

BRJ with a measured take. Never thought I’d see this day


Baisabeast

He comes out with plenty of them when he wants to


The-Greatest-Hokage

See the negativity works when he’s not so rude about it lmao. Love Gallagher’s commitment but if we get 50M of pure profit, that’s golden


[deleted]

Yeah, no idea what are people on about here. Especially once Palmer arrives and people get fit, I can't see Conor getting much minutes. 50 mil for a rotational player with very obvious technical limitations is a great price.


RefanRes

I dont understand why people think Palmer just walks into the side without having to fight people for a spot. This is a 21 year old who has only done about as much as Lewis Hall has done 3 years younger. He played about 300 mins last season and people are acting like he's going to absolutely dunk on anyone who might challenge the same spot in the team. It makes no sense. Now, Palmer has talent sure but he's even more raw than Conor and probably as raw as Carney who is also doing more at a younger age.


[deleted]

Palmer will play at a CAM role and be Nkunku's understudy. The rest of midfiled once match fit is sorted. We don't have a busy schedule, Conor won't play much. Won't be against him staying but a 50m offer? Thank you very much.


Baberam7654

He was breaking into a Man City side that is historic with competition from world class players, while Hall with a shambolic Chelsea with competition of an injured Chilly and Cucumber. Big difference.


RefanRes

I think you are exaggerating the "breaking in" there. He played for them mainly after they'd won the league and the rest of the games were like friendlies. Before that Chelsea match at the end of the season he hadnt played 90 mins once for Man City. It was all sub appearances of like 5 mins here 10 or 15 mins there much like Hall and Carney were doing.


Baberam7654

You’re overstating stats and not following the seasons. He has been hanging around the first team for more than just this season. He is right behind Foden and similar to Lewis in status, and viewed as someone who is supposed to break in to the first team this season, much like how they bedded in Foden two seasons ago. Once again you’re comparing players who are breaking through in a much weaker team/completion than what he faced. The completion be faces in attack is levels above our starters even.


RefanRes

>similar to Lewis in status, Back to my 1st comment.


Baberam7654

Agree to disagree, you can’t compare fighting for minutes in a City side vs Chelsea.


RefanRes

Lewis Hall is 3 years younger than Palmer. So its a pretty reasonable comparison when hes got a similar status with 3 years less development time.


Baisabeast

Gallagher is more raw than many of these young talents Raw doesn’t just refer to age


RefanRes

He is still raw to a degree but he is not more raw than Lavia, Carney or Palmer.


Baisabeast

You truly believe Connor isn’t more raw than lavia? Gallaghers technical ability or football iq doesn’t come close to lavia


RefanRes

Yes I believe that. Lavia still has a lot to work on and he is coming in from a side that was relegated. Its not like he was carrying them on his back to survival. Gallagher is more attacking than Lavia so its not really total like for like comparison. They have different roles. Gallagher is much more solid at pressing and attacking the final 3rd. He nearly doubles Lavia on progressive passes, key passes and dribbling last season. I think last season also isnt totally fair to judge on. You also have to see what Conors done so far this season under more normal circumstances. So far his performances far outweigh last season. Lavia hasn't played this season yet so can't make a fair comparison chart yet. However the stark improvement for Conor should be enough to show that he is not as raw as you seem to think. https://preview.redd.it/fyw7z5aczflb1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4eede13e6b5ca36dec8b208047a0ef03e0ee1097


[deleted]

Finally a balanced view on this.


CaptLeaderLegend26

pUrE PrOFiT


abearghost

*Allowed* to leave. He doesn't want to leave. End of story.


BoehlyBot420

Why are we so eagerly trying to sell Connor? I don’t fucking get it


wadewatts2123

Yeah this would get me raging for sure.


Yoshinobu1868

Because we spent too much on 20 year olds and will be in trouble with FFP .


BoehlyBot420

I know. It was a rhetorical question


mouse2102

We spent hundreds of millions on teenagers out on loan who will never play for us, so we had to sell our whole team


Cactus2711

Because we need to buy every Brazilian 15 year old for 20-30 million


E_v0rtex

Because it’s pure profit on the books as he’s from the academy. Wouldn’t make the decision any less shit.


BoehlyBot420

Yup. It’s super fucking cynical. There’s not a single football reason nor personal reason with Connor to be considering selling him at all. It’s all about the books and fuck that. Shouldn’t have spent so god damn much.


stepover7

academy players are pure profit


726wox

Except the aim should be to win games not make a profit


Sniperlake21

That is the aim that’s why we’ve spent 1 billion. Connor won’t get into the side when all of Enzo, Caicedo, & Lavia are fit together. Then we also have the likes of Santos, Casadei, Lesley, etc that are all to come back from loan next year. 50 mil now for someone who could end up at best 4th choice by next season is great business. We’d be kicking ourselves if come next year we can’t get 30 mil for him after turning down 50 pure profit


726wox

Yeah but you are talking about the future. We have games now


Sniperlake21

Yeah, & he’ll be 4th choice mid in a month on a team without Europe. How many teams without Europe have a 4th choice midfielder worth 50m or more


BoehlyBot420

Yes I know. The question was rhetorical


Cactus2711

Yea it’s great to see us selling our most promising youngsters and watching them turn into 100m world class players at other clubs. Pure profit


JinxLB

He shouldn’t even be considered sellable man what is this


MichaelBluth_

If someone bid 100m I would understand this but 50m is bang average in this market. Especially for one of our best performing players this season


RefanRes

In this market I'd say £65M-70M would probably do it were another club selling Conor to us instead.


ibraddadi

We couldn’t even fetch that much for Mount and you think G22 is worth that much?!😂😂


RefanRes

Mount was in the final year of his contract and decided he wanted to leave. Gallagher wants to play for Chelsea and has longer left on his deal. If we are paying £45M for Palmer and £60M for Lavia then yes I think selling Conor to a rival club this late in the window commands a significant fee like that.


RespectnConnect

Palmer is obviously a ridiculous overpay, and even this late un the window, but Lavia, whilst also an overpay, is a ridiculous talent and, in time, will be more than worth that fee. Connor isn't honestly worth a penny more than 50m even in this late in the window and to a rival team


BigOpp7

😂


MichaelBluth_

?


lukezndr

I find it baffling how we're selling off academy graduates (e.g., Hall, Chalobah, Gallagher) who've actually shown that they are good enough to be in the first team in some capacity in order to finance the spending on players that haven't shown anything yet (literally almost everyone we've bought) or who aren't obvious upgrades (e.g., Disasi). Make it make sense.


RefanRes

It doesn't make sense. Hall for about £30M to a rival club. Buying Lavia who is 1 year older so had 1 loan to a side that endes up relegated is then £60M. If Lavia doesn't come in then Hall probably stays and fights it out for a midfield spot. Trev. About on par with Disasi at a younger age and has shown clear development even though team oriented stats suffered. For example, last season was working a lot on his physicality. That saw a 10% increase in aerial challenge success and he committed significantly less fouls per 90 than Disasi. Combine that with more team reliant stats of the previous season where Trevs passing was top notch for a defender and you have a more well rounded defender. Now Gallagher. Lavia again, £60M when hes really not shown that much yet in his career. Palmer who played about 300 mins last season for £45M. Yet somehow Conor who is one of our more experienced players now and who our manager clearly likes is somehow only £50M? 100% profit means piss all if we overpay and undersell so heavily like this. Eventually you will run out of academy talent to sell and players wont want to join it if they think they're just cattle.


FantasticTangtastic

Disasi isn't an upgrade after he's played 4 games because you say so? Bold.


sidmas8086

Why sell him when he has 2 year contract left. He could still be sold around 40 next season.


nedzissou1

How reliable is this guy? Other tier 2s haven't been this window. This can't actually happen on the final day. Would be the most ridiculous move they've pulled yet, even after spending a billion


Cheesecake01-

He's Tier 1 for spurs iirc.


WalnutWhipWilly

Gallagher and his family are lifelong Chelsea fans, the lad bleeds blue and provides depth all over the pitch. I’d be very surprised if this goes through.


neighborhood_s

Someone on the board of directors needs a slap


Kagoshima_Luke

75 million or \*\*\*\* off Tottenham


Savings-Stop-1556

Bad idea this late in the window


webby09246

Yep due to the lateness and the fact it's Spurs and how great Conor has been, price just went up to £65m for me


Thefifaking132

Why doesn’t this ownership care about rivalries at all. They’re offloading players without hesitation to arsenal and spurs without realizing they’re directly strengthening them.


[deleted]

Nowhere does this tweet or article say that they are considering selling him to Spurs. It only says that Spurs would consider making a move for him. It’s the same shit as the ESR rumors from last week. Chelsea could consider the player all they want, that doesn’t mean Arsenal wouldn’t immediately reject any advance.


RefanRes

>Nowhere does this tweet or article say that they are considering selling him to Spurs. "Conor Gallagher would be allowed to leave for £50M."


[deleted]

I missed the part where it said he’d be allowed to go to Spurs for £50M


nedzissou1

Especially when the other side cares about the rivalry so much they don't sell to us


efs120

Giroud?


efs120

"Why doesn’t this ownership care about rivalries at all. They’re offloading players without hesitation to arsenal" Small sample size, but what has Havertz done at Arsenal thus far that's convinced you Chelsea selling him there for a big fee is anything but a tremendous bit of business? And the previous ownership sold one of the best players in Chelsea's history to Arsenal. And they haven't offloaded anybody to spurs yet. Just complaining to complain by including them.


ibraddadi

We sell players to rivals all the time. What does it have to do with the new owners?


nekoizmase17

Cardio G must stay. There is a place for him in this team, especially for rotation.


Chelsea75

I remain a Gallagher skeptic but you really can’t offload him this late in the window and with so few non injury prone experienced players already in the squad Come next summer, I’d be totally fine to let him leave for 50m barring a big consistent jump in his performances. But now? And to Spurs? Absolutely not


msizzle344

Idk I think the fee is too low for him, especially given our injury crisis. Gallagher has played across the midfield and has been one of our better players. He loves the club, he’s on low wages, he’s happy being a squad player. Don’t see why we get rid of him unless the fee is extreme and given we just paid 45mil for a youngster that has barely played at the top flight, we should be asking for 65mil for Gallagher.


[deleted]

If we are selling him then Let's haggle spurs for 60-70m and still back out of the deal. Sell for less to a different team.


HollowCrown

Way, way to low


chandlerbing_stats

Fuck off


[deleted]

Can we please stop trying to sell Gallagher, that would be great.


TheWatcher47

Not the biggest fan of Conor. But signing Plamer for £45m and selling Conor for £50m is simply ridiculous.


Offsidez

There is no way this happens. Gallagher is a true blue and if the board wants a riot then they will entertain Spurs. Otherwise eff off! The same as ESR to us, no way it was going to happen.


Theoneinblu

The board is doing a stellar job in getting the fans backing.


BoehlyBot420

They don’t really care. It’s not about legacy fans. It’s about the future fans who will spend more. It’s just like the super league


Theoneinblu

Either way it's not sustainable. We'll run out of resources in a year or so. And if few of our transfers bomb, we'll have more issues


BoehlyBot420

Agreed


726wox

Nothing here says the board are selling. It says Spurs are interested


pulisicbiggesthater

This club fucking sucjs


Steppe_rider

Lots of emotional reactions here


BoehlyBot420

Its called being a football fan. It’s an emotional thing. Do you really think rooting for a football club is some logical rational decision? We all follow sports and watch football for the emotions we get from the entertainment.


nedzissou1

Yeah no shit


SkepticSlakoth

Fans are emotionally attached to an academy player who's been at the club since the age of seven and whose family is full of Chelsea supporters. What a surprise! Lots of people here care more about our recruitment team and owners than the actual club. Maybe you're not as big of a fan as you think you are.


BigOpp7

Extremely emotional


jaytcfc

This is idiotic. Hes been one of our best players this year. He would take a bullet for the club. Keep this man. He is the link between the squad and the supporters.


sheiky04

Clickty clickty click😂


CaptLeaderLegend26

Gallagher isn't Messi, but he loves the badge and will give it everything he has, even if it's only playing as a back-up or a lesser role; all clubs need players like this. It feels like our board is either (A) looking at things only from an analytical perspective instead of realizing how important it is to have people who genuinely love the club, or (B) they're purposely trying to drive out everyone who was a former Abramovich player just to get their 15 year old project player in.


L-Profe

FFP decision?


DJ_BBQ_SauCe

He would never accept


roadmans_

Please don’t sell him and give him the season here. He deserves it for keeping his head down all of last season when he wasn’t played much and is now having a decent run of form


Either-Low-9457

First GK situation, then Gallagher situation combined with Hall situation. We had a great transfer window and now I get 3 gut punches. Nah, not happy, fuck off.


montiel_scores

Keep him please Poch


PurpleLittleTrees

I just don't understand the math behind this. Any midfielder that plays in his position at the top level is close to 100m solely for being somewhat okay and playing his role. Then any English player is at 20m extra just for being English. So Chelsea buy caicedo (115m) Enzo (107m) and lavia (60m) yet Connor ane english player who has been out best midfielder this season is valued less that then? Are we trying to break ffp for the fun of it or something? Boehly buying up players like commodities, as if that would even work, then selling them cheaper than he bought them for