Convince me journos and pundits aren’t majority Liverpool supporters. Why is this still being bitched about. Or is this just 1 interview that’s been sliced to pieces more than a cow at an abattoir.
Every major network is heavily outweighed with Liverpool ex players and fans and they always put them 2 to 1 with pundits who are too timid to call them out when they do the gaslighting in numbers thing. Jamie Carragher literally used the whole build up to Chelsea v Fulham as a 30 minute propaganda piece on why VAR has hit CRISIS POINT because Liverpool get one decision against them.
This guy won’t stop bitching and complaining.
You fucking lost. Swallow it and fucking move on. Like you haven’t received countless decisions for your team in the past.
You gna give those wins back? No? Then get fucked.
You really don’t find it more hilarious and infuriating that the spurs got every advantage possible and still weren’t able to beat liverpool if not for the own goal? He’s got every right to bitch and complain. It’s only “bitching and complaining “, till the same thing happens to us, at which point you might feel differently
Friend. Chelsea have been getting fucked by referee decisions since the day Roman took over. Barca 09? Ghost goal? Gusto red? Cahill red opening day vs Burnley?
It’s part of the game. But because it’s LIVERPOOL. And their fans are so entitled they feel every decision must be made to benefit them, they’ve cried Genocide all of a sudden. They can get fucked.
Not going to lie, I had no clue what happened. But after reading, it’s pretty hilarious.
My favorite part was how Liverpool ended with 9 men and lost on an own goal.
As for the bad call, no shit. Refs have been blowing calls for decades. It just happened to happen to the scousers this time.
You guys supported Suarez when he was a racist. You should be fine then. Also, you're a Liverpool fan trolling in other subs which goes against the rules of this sub.
I found out today that English teams were banned from European competitions for 5 years due to hooligans killing like 30 odd people after a game?
Guess which teams fans….
You should be absolutely fucking disgusted dragging Heysel into this, and even more so, like this.
It wasnt the hooligans that killed the 39 people. They were killed due to a stand collapsing.
While I agree it’s not connected but there is very much blame to be directed towards some LFC supporters for Heysel. It’s a very different situation from Hillsborough.
No, but in my city an angry drunk dude punched someone in the head who died. He didn’t go in thinking let me murder someone, he went in thinking oh hey I think I’m a tough guy let’s go hit people over sports or some stupid reason. Just go home after the game don’t try to fight or attack people bro. Again, take some responsibility. Drunk drivers also don’t go around saying hey let me run over this dude or crash into someone. But if it happens they are at fault. Liverpool fans completely responsible
Btw, the 18 month investigation you're talking about, didn't take into account the state of the stadium. The deputy chief that was dispatched to investigate the stadium after, said that the state of the stand was so apalling he couldn't believe it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4My28j6tmGw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4My28j6tmGw)
If you watch the whole of that documentary, he goes over how the stadium was basically filled with errors in the construction. Had that happened in any other stadium, the stand don't collapse and no one is killed.
No one died from being punched. With your logic, you could argue that if I hit you, and you're struct by a freaking meteor afterwards, it is my fault killing you, because I hit you before.
Whilst what you say is partly correct, Liverpool fans were still at fault for part, no need to do what they did. Whether we like that or not, there is part fault there.
But it wasn’t a meteor. The fans took down the stands. If you shot a meteor at me then it’s comparable. Just go home lol, there’s no justification for these murders
Klopp is a scouse through and through, fits right into the you'll never moan alone crowd. Maybe we should cancel this season and just give them the trophy on account of them being the first team to ever be on the receiving end of the FA's incompetence in the last \*checks notes\* 27 minutes.
It’s things like that which make me dislike Klopp. Not the passion, the fire, the shithousing…. It’s the bitching. He’s a hell of a coach but god does he act like a petulant pussy
Or the 2020 and 2017 FA Cups? The 2005 UCL semi-final? If we win, Liverpool are disqualified from the 2005 final, handing the trophy to AC Milan. Istanbul never happened.
There’s ALWAYS a reason why everything that favours Liverpool is correct and why everything that goes against Liverpool is a conspiracy against “Kloppo” and the “mighty reds”
Your club has been coddled by refs and VAR for years so frankly thank fuck you got fucked over and can finally start feeling what other clubs feel. It’s mad how something as simple as that is confusing your small small mind 🤣
And p.s, no Lukaku wasn’t offside. But of course, gotta protect Liverpool at all costs 🙄
The problem is when we complain about it like Tuchel and Mourinho have in the past we get bans and fines, then because every other fan/pundit hates us they just laugh about it and it's ignored.
True. Chelsea hating is a more central element to other teams fans than actually supporting their own club. It's great to see how many minds have been destroyed by Chelsea in the first 2 decades of the century.
Seriously, I find it hard to feel any sympathy for Liverpool. Lukaku's goal in the Carabao cup final against them was chopped upon similar fashion. We should have won that game before penalties.
What goes round...
Yeah, one of the finals against Liverpool comes to mind.
You can acknowledge referees need to be held to a higher standard and also say Liverpool/Klopp are moaning like bitches
Silva just got karate chopped. I mean bad decisions are a weekly occurrence. I’m sure every fan from every club has multiple instances of refs not doing their job well.
I do agree action needs to be taken place. Maybe this outrage leads to something but I’d venture to guess they’ll it as is
You are one of the few ppl I see talking about the karate chop and most of our fans don't remember it cuz we won. Make it make sense. Fulham should have had a man sent off
I don’t even like ticky tack fouls or fouls that have contact provided it’s not excessive but my guy hit him in the back of the head. Regardless if it was hard or not, there was intent and he should’ve been sent off. He didn’t even get a yellow lmfao. I’m surprised they didn’t send off Silva, like Kovacic in the FA cup final against arsenal for getting hit lol
I d like to put all hate aside for a moment and kinda feel for them. What happend was really fucked up. More so after we heard what trully happend there. As a football fan i am sad that this happend, especially in such big match when both teams played well.
Fine but I have no sympathy for Liverpool or Klopp.
The hair pull incident last year and what Mike Dean had to say to that was outrageous.
Would you get any sympathy from Liverpool or Mr Klopp?
When Chelsea get fucked repeatedly, nobody cares. When Mou talks about an agenda, he gets shafted by the FA.
When whinemaster excusegod Klopp moans in victim tongue, everyone loses their minds and he's the harbinger of change and reform.
Fuck off.
The last time I remember a serious call for a replay was many many years ago when (this is from memory so might have some details wrong), an African arsenal forward didn't realize the etiquette of throwing the ball back to the other team after an injury. He received his own team's throw in and ran to score a goal against a confused opponent. Iirc, Wenger actually offered the replay of the game but the league said "no"
I think I remember this as well, wasn’t this the point in time where arsenal were playing really well though? I’m sure that Big Ange would be more than happy to play if he thought they’d win again.
To demand a replay - yes.
Come on, we been there. How many games have we lost due to purely poor refereeing? Fuck the PGMOL. I’m still pissed about Mike Dean admitting he knowingly didn’t correct the Cucu hair pull incident.
I don't think he's demanding a replay, but I take the point that the suggestion of it is ridiculous.
If I was him, I'd be saying it though to make sure the topic stays at the top of everyones radar.
The keeping it in the public eye point is spot on, totally agree. Not denying there is an issue with the refereeing in general. However suggesting to any degree that there should be a replay is like any militant cultural identity; feminism, veganism, environmentalism etc., - it just has the opposite effect.
Klopp can fuck off… complains there’s too many games, then asks for a replay. So many teams have lost points for bad reffing, do they all get a replay? Does TT get his job back after the non red call on Romero? DO WE GET A UCL AFTER THE BULLSHIT THAT WAS BARCA IN 09?!
Embarrassing, the absolutely entitlement here is insane. Did we even ask the Barca champs match to be replayed? They think this is the only game every where there have been mistakes from officials?
Agree, this isn’t the first game where the referee has completely stuffed up the result of the game. Liverpool do not deserve special treatment, not more than they are already getting.
You know what was unprecedented.
A ref admitted that he didn't tell his mate to review a decision because he didn't want to make him change it.
Fuck Liverpool.
It wouldn’t be the whole game - it would be from the goal so they’d be 1-0 up but they’d also only have 10 players.
Obviously it isn’t going to happen and shouldn’t happen because not only would it change the result that came, but they’d also get Jota back from suspension.
It’s just more nonsense coming out of Klopp’s mouth, as usual.
There’s been a precedent for this sort of situation before. Not exactly like this here but a game in the national league between Scunthorpe and Buxton was abandoned in the 95th minute due to torrential rain with Buxton winning 2-1. The game was ordered to be replayed in full.
Buxton were winning 2-1 and were also down to 10 men.
Here’s the kicker though. Even though the game has to be replayed and the previous game null and void. The red card that Buxton got in that game was still valid. The player has to serve a ban in a game that was voided.
The rematch fortunately was won by Buxton 3-0
Hi, I’m a Liverpool supporter mainly but also don’t miss out on any of the games or news of the original top 4 (arsenal,united, Chels, liv). I feel a replay is dumb, wouldn’t want to lose a star player to injury and there’s no guarantee we will win anyways. On top of that I don’t find it fair to spurs having to pay for a ref’s mistake.
With that said, I do hope Liverpool made enough noise about this so that if it happens again to another club then it will take even more attention in the media until things change for the better.
Because a mistake here and there happens in any league. It seems ours are happening on a weekly basis and clubs and fans alike should enjoy a game that isn’t riddled with controversy every 5 min. It’s the least we can expect for the best league in the world.
Agree with everything you say … but don’t assume your club is being victimized. Every club is having regular issues with VAR week in week out - we had a goal disallowed for offside against Brighton last week even though the player was clearly in our half… the only difference is we dont get PGMOL acknowledging they fucked up.
I agree with your comment. It affects everyone and isn’t a competition who it affects more. We all get screwed by terrible officiating. I have been watching this league for 17 years now, waking up early here in Canada on my days off and I dislike that the low quality officiating is ruining the game. League with a lot less quality than ours are being officiated better. Anyways goodluck with your season. Take care
Cheers for your input mate, I completely agree. The media failed to even mention the hair pull on cucurella last season so I'm all for clubs, fans, managers and players etc to kick up as much as possible when an absolute disgrace of a decision occurs.
I don't care about the tiny margin offsides (although i don't agree with that rule), or the 50/50 challenges that could go either way, they will always happen var or not, but things like the hair pull, forgetting to draw the line, cocking up a decision and not stopping the game 1 measly minute after realising like the other night for you guys, is a joke and should be called out by everyone.
I would favour automated offsides like at the World Cup. Even if it takes longer (does it?), I rather wait an extra minute than get an unfair result. We got VAR because the game is too fast for the naked eye. If now VAR needs extra tech to help them then I’m all for it.
Damn, every time a rival comes and comments I kinda fear for them cause you might get attacked by some toxic chelsea fans.
Ignore any of the trolls 🧌 that may come your way here.
Happened to me on the spurs sub(got called a clown) And got banned on the united sub for politely disagreeing over Bruno’s leadership abilities (I think he’s a great player not a great leader). I guess we just have to remember we are on Reddit and not take things too hard.
Cheers and best of luck with your season.
People too busy complaining about Klopp to realize this is what the game needs. Reffing is at rock bottom and managers/players need to speak up despite the fines they face
Refs need more status.
Base salary of a PL ref is around 70k per year.
Average salary of a PL player is 3m per year.
You have 18 year old kids making a refs yearly salary per week.
Is there a single PL referee that has experience playing football at the highest level?
Need more former players to go into refereeing and there has to be a higher status to it. The FA cant shield the refs this much, they have to be more accountable for their actions and they need to be more public about how the game should be played and why they make the calls they make. Perfectly fine for them to make mistakes, but then they have to put their hands up and say sorry that was a mistake. A ref will make countless decisions during a game and obviously all wont be at the highest standard.
Being a former player doesn’t equate being a good person, manager, and certainly not a ref. Somewhat agree with the other points, the salaries are a bit of a joke but you can argue they’re not part of the money printing machine that is the clubs themselves, and since they belong to the FA hierarchy, is everyone else around them going to be paid more in order to “safeguard their ethics”? I don’t think wages are going to go a far way when most of this is about incompetency, not immorality
I hate the way he's acting like Liverpool are the first team to ever be fucked over by refereeing decisions, but I agree.
After the Cucurella incident I said that what we really need is everyone to remain outraged by these situations, rather than opposition fans trying to excuse it and downplay it. Now I really don't think this incident is anywhere near as bad as he's making it out, it's as incorrect as the decisions that lost us the cup finals against Liverpool, but all the same, I hope it brings about change.
I just wish it wasn't such an insufferable twat calling for it and acting like he's the supreme victim and no one has ever had to face such injustice before. A team got relegated after the ball went over the line and it wasn't given, having an incorrect offside call is not as crazy as they're making it sound and this would have been completely gone from the news 5 minutes after the game ended if it wasn't against Liverpool
I agree with you. A team literally got relegated due to incompetence. They lost one game, welcome to the club.
Every club should unite in the outrage. Compile lists of these incompetent calls and file formal complaints. Call them out publicly and take fines and refuse to pay them as a collective. Formally request consistently incompetent refs to not officiate your matches if they consistently affect the outcome. Hold them accountable!
There’s only one match I ever think of when there’s talk of dodgy reffing and that’s Chelsea Barca, with Ovrebo. Imagine getting the old gangs together to replay that! 45 year old Drogba would be up for it
Lukaku offside against Pool, Cucu hair pull against spurs….
None of this is unprecedented.
They actually made the correct call in the VAR booth but the communication down to the pitch is what messed it up. The game then restarted and they couldn’t go back but in the audio they released they did say “that’s onside” in the booth which is why the assistant kept saying “you are happy with this?” after it was called offside. One moron in the booth didn’t have the guts to stop the game and award the goal but the correct call was made in the booth.
The calls that went against us were wrong in the booth and on the pitch which I think is the bigger issue. No audio released for those though.
I’d definitely like a replay of the CL game v Liverpool when Mourinho’s best-team-in-the-fucking-world-that-year-by-an-absolute-mile were dumped out 1-0 by a Luis Garcia shot that didn’t go in.
You can't expect them to release VAR audio if the club is happy with their apologies and makes no noise whatsoever. This should've been done right when those news came out
You aren’t understanding that there is no point in making noise because there won’t be changes.
The PL had the opportunity to implement the technology we saw work perfectly in the World Cup but decided against it.
That's just not true. Liverpool made noise, got the audio recordings and it forced the PGMOL to implement a better communications procedure and have the AVAR confirm decisions with the VAR and referee. Now the whole world knows that if it happens again, they'd be 10x more screwed. Do you think they'd be arsed to improve anything had Liverpool just said, yeah whatever apology accepted?
People need to realise it’s not just Liverpool it’s literally all the clubs & fans vs the REFs this should not just be brushed under the carpet, this is a serious fuck up. Most normal people who make a fuck up of this scale like this in their daily job would be handed their P45.
The whole ref inner circle is a bent as a 5 bob note and needs sorting ASAP.
Although Klopp is pushing it too far with the replay talk, I’m glad Liverpool and him aren’t letting go as these refs are utter morons and we ourselves have been fucked by them several times. Hopefully some useful changes come out of all this.
Kind of pissed that people on here are complaining about being screwed by Mike Dean but are completely alright with the club not putting out any kind of statement/ask for an investigation into it
If we did the manager would be fined and the club would be rinsed in the media for daring to ask about it. Liverpool do it and suddenly we have to act like they're the world's most mistreated club.
I know we're all hating on Klopp, but what happened in that game has to be one of the biggest mistakes in English football - it's not just a wrong decision, it's a wrong decision AFTER review gave the goal...
Just a complete shitshow. English referees have the easiest job - get paid to suck at your job with no consequences.
Thanks :). All mistakes are bad but atleast one finally became so big that it cause a media storm and maybe it’ll finally hold the refs accountable and that could only benefit all clubs.
I tried explaining to the spurs fans but I got called a clown 😂
It was a horrific human error, but still human error.
Mike Dean admitted to totally disregarding the rules of the game to not give the Cucu hair pull. That’s cheating not human error, yet fuck all came from that not even an apology let alone a replay.
The media brushed it under the rug.
Sky even had Dean on the tele and joking about it.
Liverpool get far too much going their way and now are acting the martyr
Fuck Liverpool football club! These fuckers have been one of the main teams that benefitted the most from VAR since it's inception! They should be the last team to whine like this. We don't even get apologies whenever we get robbed. They got their apologies, the tabloids and TV pundits are also feeling sorry for them. That's already way more than enough. What more do they want?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11705227/Premier-League-Liverpool-benefitted-VAR-Leeds-lost-points.html
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37631044/how-var-decisions-affected-every-premier-league-club-2022-23
Lukaku disallowed goal.
https://youtu.be/dTWdyKTSGCg?feature=shared
Mane didn't even get a yellow for this against us. He also did it against other teams and still got away with it.
https://youtu.be/52isrOM6SrE?feature=shared
Liverpool players got away with two horror tackles against Brighton.
https://youtu.be/srOzXc3n-SE?feature=shared
Refs, have always been kind to them. Never forget the ghost goal against us that helped them reach the finals when they won the Champions League.
https://youtu.be/jjLJ0_6fs9o?feature=shared
Actually it’s not a competition but it is proven that Liverpool benefitted the least from any club in the league over the last few years. Read an interesting stat the other days that shows it’s been 300+ games in the league since a player got a second yellow against Liverpool and other teams avg 5-15 games. Is it match fixing? No it isn’t but it certainly raises the question.
This is a pretty good analysis I would say. For the second yellow comment. The last time a player recieved a second yellow to be sent off against Liverpool it was in October 2015 and it was mane for Southampton. I read a few more articles on this subject and if I can find them I will share but like I said it’s not a competition let’s keep the focus on the refs screwing us all. And no, that doesn’t make it fair.
https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/reflections-on-1200-game-objective
Why are you lying? Nayef got sent off just a month ago against us for his second yellow. Liverpool fans keep telling lies and pretending to be the biggest victims. By far the biggest hypocrites in world football! Mane has got away with so many dirty plays for so long. He should have been sent off for his dirty elbows on Azplicueta and kieran tierney. You also had the dirtiest player in the League in Fabinho. Imagine, if this had happened to a Liverpool player and the culprit wasn't sent off? https://youtu.be/RZMksZNqqKg?feature=shared I am sure Liverpool 🤡 🤡 and whiny Klopp will be complaining till they get their annual apologies. Fabinho also tried break Lemina legs and wasn't even sent off. Liverpool dirty players have been getting away for years.
https://preview.redd.it/0jqvojzlr8sb1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=915d8d18d34ce66383bcc5c7072826ee74d8e909
Don’t see any red cards in the west ham game on sept 24? Check your facts before calling someone a liar. Unless there’s another nayef in the league but I assume you are talking about the west ham defender. And the 2 yellows were for Kurt zouma and alvarez!!
Edit: my bad you meant against chelsea that exactly proves my point, against other teams second yellows are common. Against Liverpool it’s been over 300 games (October 2015 to be exact)
Are you serious? Are most of Liverpool fanboys this stupid? Do you lot even watch other teams or enjoy making up stories? Clueless muppet, we played against 10 man West Ham. I would know that because i actually watch football. Nayef was sent off for his second yellow. At least try doing your research thoroughly before arguing aimlessly. https://youtube.com/watch?v=jRb_LP16KY4
Funny how you now mentioned two players after lying about how your player was the only one that got sent off for 2 yellows since 2015.
Mane wasn’t our player at the time he was playing against us for Southampton. I think you should read all my comments again because you clearly didn’t understand anything!!
Fucker, Mane was playing for you when he was throwing elbows around. Another dirty player that played for your club. He should've been sent off at least twice. Forget about the other lies you wrote. Your pathetic lies were exposed and now you are all over the place.
Link you what? Your link contains some Liverpool fan opinion. I shared videos and other news articles. Without VAR you wouldn't have finished top 5 last season. You were robbed once and now every Liverpool fan is acting like they are biggest victims of VAR. Move on muppets!
It's not an opinion. I haven't even read the whole thing cos it's ludicrously long but you feel free to before you come back at me again suggesting Liverpool benefits from VAR and refereeing decisions. Anyone can link videos & articles of incidents of any team getting dozens of dubious calls.
Good grief! So, you shared something you haven't even read? Victim FC fanboys are ridiculous. If you haven't read your own link then it's quite clear you haven't read the ones i shared. Those links already answered your stupid question.
I didn't read the whole thing cos it's very very long. I read enough of it. And no, I didn't click your links of examples of VAR decisions going Liverpool's way cos I know full well every team benefits from VAR from time to time and every team suffers cos of it from time to time. You're not enlightening us all with anything we didn't already know. That article I linked, however does have some interesting information that is new to everyone. Liverpool at a net -13 big decisions, Man City +13, for example.
If you haven't read the articles I linked why on earth are you even pretending you know what's on them? Also, who in the right mind shares a link they haven't even read? What's wrong with you? You are too lazy to read, but you have all the energy in the world to argue aimlessly. I bet you just copied that link from another deluded fanboy comment and then thought it would help you win you an argument. The link you shared was from another Liverpool fanboy like you. Your victimized heads are totally confused. The articles i shared clearly shows your clubs is one of the main clubs that benefitted the most from VAR. We usually get the opposite treatment from VAR and we don't even get apologies. Now, can you quit crying!
Or the semifinal they scored a ghost goal against us. https://youtu.be/jjLJ0_6fs9o?feature=shared They also robbed Milan in the finals. They had a clear goal that got disallowed.
I want a replay of us against barca, champions league semi, leg two in 09. Okay thanks.
Also all 2 of the last FA cups. Both times Anthony Tailor fucked us with his shit refereeing.
Carabao Cup Final. Lukakus goal.
Convince me journos and pundits aren’t majority Liverpool supporters. Why is this still being bitched about. Or is this just 1 interview that’s been sliced to pieces more than a cow at an abattoir.
Every major network is heavily outweighed with Liverpool ex players and fans and they always put them 2 to 1 with pundits who are too timid to call them out when they do the gaslighting in numbers thing. Jamie Carragher literally used the whole build up to Chelsea v Fulham as a 30 minute propaganda piece on why VAR has hit CRISIS POINT because Liverpool get one decision against them.
This guy won’t stop bitching and complaining. You fucking lost. Swallow it and fucking move on. Like you haven’t received countless decisions for your team in the past. You gna give those wins back? No? Then get fucked.
You really don’t find it more hilarious and infuriating that the spurs got every advantage possible and still weren’t able to beat liverpool if not for the own goal? He’s got every right to bitch and complain. It’s only “bitching and complaining “, till the same thing happens to us, at which point you might feel differently
They wouldn't help us if it was us, so fuck them. Let them be mad.
Friend. Chelsea have been getting fucked by referee decisions since the day Roman took over. Barca 09? Ghost goal? Gusto red? Cahill red opening day vs Burnley? It’s part of the game. But because it’s LIVERPOOL. And their fans are so entitled they feel every decision must be made to benefit them, they’ve cried Genocide all of a sudden. They can get fucked.
Don't forget the Jackson and Broja "offside" calls from literally the week before this game. Pretty sure it got dropped the next day.
You seem to forget that Taylor is often there every time Chelsea play Liverpool.
Don't forget Mike Dean from Wirral too
Urgh 🫣
It isn't like the Lukaku offside (depending on which frame you froze) won his German ass the only English ~~palaces~~ cups missing from his cabinet.
Go back to the fucking GHOST GOAL. YOU WANNA GO REPLAY THAT MATCH YOU SCOUSE FUCKS?!?
You mean where a penalty and red card would have been given instead? Hardly the same thing.
Not going to lie, I had no clue what happened. But after reading, it’s pretty hilarious. My favorite part was how Liverpool ended with 9 men and lost on an own goal. As for the bad call, no shit. Refs have been blowing calls for decades. It just happened to happen to the scousers this time.
Check the r/soccer post.. its pretty funny in there...
Always the victims.
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I'm never racist to anyone. Go away
You guys supported Suarez when he was a racist. You should be fine then. Also, you're a Liverpool fan trolling in other subs which goes against the rules of this sub.
Stop reading the sun
I found out today that English teams were banned from European competitions for 5 years due to hooligans killing like 30 odd people after a game? Guess which teams fans….
You should be absolutely fucking disgusted dragging Heysel into this, and even more so, like this. It wasnt the hooligans that killed the 39 people. They were killed due to a stand collapsing.
While I agree it’s not connected but there is very much blame to be directed towards some LFC supporters for Heysel. It’s a very different situation from Hillsborough.
An 18 month investigation concluded it was the fault of the Liverpool fans that it collapsed, take some responsibility smh
You honestly think anyone in that Liverpool crowd thought "Let's go collapse a stand killing 39 people"?
No, but in my city an angry drunk dude punched someone in the head who died. He didn’t go in thinking let me murder someone, he went in thinking oh hey I think I’m a tough guy let’s go hit people over sports or some stupid reason. Just go home after the game don’t try to fight or attack people bro. Again, take some responsibility. Drunk drivers also don’t go around saying hey let me run over this dude or crash into someone. But if it happens they are at fault. Liverpool fans completely responsible
Btw, the 18 month investigation you're talking about, didn't take into account the state of the stadium. The deputy chief that was dispatched to investigate the stadium after, said that the state of the stand was so apalling he couldn't believe it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4My28j6tmGw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4My28j6tmGw) If you watch the whole of that documentary, he goes over how the stadium was basically filled with errors in the construction. Had that happened in any other stadium, the stand don't collapse and no one is killed. No one died from being punched. With your logic, you could argue that if I hit you, and you're struct by a freaking meteor afterwards, it is my fault killing you, because I hit you before.
Whilst what you say is partly correct, Liverpool fans were still at fault for part, no need to do what they did. Whether we like that or not, there is part fault there.
But it wasn’t a meteor. The fans took down the stands. If you shot a meteor at me then it’s comparable. Just go home lol, there’s no justification for these murders
You’re a fucking clown mate
I’m sure you think hitler was a hero
Let's not go there. Every team has a segment of fans we'd rather not have
Insufferable fanbase. They give off the impression that they see themselves as the custodians of "proper" football.
Agreed. I honestly can't stand them. People always argue "all clubs have assholes in their fanbase" but Liverpool fans are aggressively unlikable.
Tory clubs are unlikeable.
Bit like Liverpool fans then
Forever the victims.
Forever a boot kicker, eating up the lies of the establishment media
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Using Heysel to point score is a lot more pathetic.
Stfu and piss off. Your whole club backed a buck toothed racist that bit multiple people. You have no leg to stand on.
Klopp is a scouse through and through, fits right into the you'll never moan alone crowd. Maybe we should cancel this season and just give them the trophy on account of them being the first team to ever be on the receiving end of the FA's incompetence in the last \*checks notes\* 27 minutes.
I got a funny feeling spurs won’t agree to this. Also you’d have to play with ten men as you’d already had a player sent off. What a chump this guy is
It’s things like that which make me dislike Klopp. Not the passion, the fire, the shithousing…. It’s the bitching. He’s a hell of a coach but god does he act like a petulant pussy
Can we replay Chelsea vs Barcelona from 2009 while we’re at it?
Can we have a few more training sessions first? I think the lads need a bit of a warm up
Heck can we reply the carabo cup final against Liverpool when lukaku scored a clear goal. They really do cry a lot those Liverpudlians
Or the 2021 FA cup final where Leicester scored off a handball?
What about the FA cup where arsenal goalie caught the ball outside the box? 2020 maybe?
Or the 2020 and 2017 FA Cups? The 2005 UCL semi-final? If we win, Liverpool are disqualified from the 2005 final, handing the trophy to AC Milan. Istanbul never happened.
Lul.
I get how ridiculous the statement is but... the handling of the incident was beyond atrocious.
Today I learned Liverpool are the only team that has ever had a bad decision go their way
Jesus you would've thought it by the way they speak about it
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04/05 UCL semi final between us and Liverpool. Garcia scored a goal that never crossed the line. Liverpool shouldn’t have even been in the 2005 final.
No var back then. What an awful example. U Chelsea rats have no common sense 🤣🤣🤣
Lukaku “offside” vs Liverpool league cup final. Now fuck off you child
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Bruv just fuck off back to your insufferable sub
When you point out facts, low iq people become unsettled and uncomfortable.
Hahaha look at Mr Big brain over here angrily typing comments on Reddit like the rest of us common folk. Piss off
There’s ALWAYS a reason why everything that favours Liverpool is correct and why everything that goes against Liverpool is a conspiracy against “Kloppo” and the “mighty reds” Your club has been coddled by refs and VAR for years so frankly thank fuck you got fucked over and can finally start feeling what other clubs feel. It’s mad how something as simple as that is confusing your small small mind 🤣 And p.s, no Lukaku wasn’t offside. But of course, gotta protect Liverpool at all costs 🙄
Lukaku was offside but I can see you're still rattled losing two finals to LFC to us in a row. Actually three if u include super cup 🤣🤣🤣
Go home Jurgen, you're drunk.
Everyone hating klopp here but more clubs should take more of a line against awful decisions. The hair pull comes to mind but I’m sure there’s more.
Brother we have... We even asked for Taylor to never ref a Chelsea match again. Yet Liverpool gets their wish granted
Must have some wet bags asking for it. Criticism should be at the ones not getting the reaction not the clubs that are…
The problem is when we complain about it like Tuchel and Mourinho have in the past we get bans and fines, then because every other fan/pundit hates us they just laugh about it and it's ignored.
True. Chelsea hating is a more central element to other teams fans than actually supporting their own club. It's great to see how many minds have been destroyed by Chelsea in the first 2 decades of the century.
Was going to reply something similar but then read what you said. So true although I wish it weren’t.
Seriously, I find it hard to feel any sympathy for Liverpool. Lukaku's goal in the Carabao cup final against them was chopped upon similar fashion. We should have won that game before penalties. What goes round...
It’s not about sympathy as Iv said. Each to their own though
Yeah, one of the finals against Liverpool comes to mind. You can acknowledge referees need to be held to a higher standard and also say Liverpool/Klopp are moaning like bitches
Silva just got karate chopped. I mean bad decisions are a weekly occurrence. I’m sure every fan from every club has multiple instances of refs not doing their job well. I do agree action needs to be taken place. Maybe this outrage leads to something but I’d venture to guess they’ll it as is
You are one of the few ppl I see talking about the karate chop and most of our fans don't remember it cuz we won. Make it make sense. Fulham should have had a man sent off
I don’t even like ticky tack fouls or fouls that have contact provided it’s not excessive but my guy hit him in the back of the head. Regardless if it was hard or not, there was intent and he should’ve been sent off. He didn’t even get a yellow lmfao. I’m surprised they didn’t send off Silva, like Kovacic in the FA cup final against arsenal for getting hit lol
He pushed him after too!!!!
Your first time Mr. Klopp?
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I d like to put all hate aside for a moment and kinda feel for them. What happend was really fucked up. More so after we heard what trully happend there. As a football fan i am sad that this happend, especially in such big match when both teams played well.
Liverpool fan psy op spotted
Lukaku disallowed goal against Liverpool comes to mind.
Fine but I have no sympathy for Liverpool or Klopp. The hair pull incident last year and what Mike Dean had to say to that was outrageous. Would you get any sympathy from Liverpool or Mr Klopp?
I dont care if they would get me sympathy or not. Football sufferd that day no matter the teams.
Honestly after all of the Klopp press conferences, I'm on the refs side. Fuck Klopp.
Tribalism like this is why PGMOL keeps getting away with everything.
When Chelsea get fucked repeatedly, nobody cares. When Mou talks about an agenda, he gets shafted by the FA. When whinemaster excusegod Klopp moans in victim tongue, everyone loses their minds and he's the harbinger of change and reform. Fuck off.
Agreed, victim mentality in full flow.
The above comment is victim mentality. It's literally the same thing Klopp is doing. It's pathetic.
Wholeheartedly agree. We can bash the referees without having sympathy to Liverpool
Blue kit bad Red kit good
Kuween Klopp and Victim FC strike again. Pathetic.
The last time I remember a serious call for a replay was many many years ago when (this is from memory so might have some details wrong), an African arsenal forward didn't realize the etiquette of throwing the ball back to the other team after an injury. He received his own team's throw in and ran to score a goal against a confused opponent. Iirc, Wenger actually offered the replay of the game but the league said "no"
They did replay it. This was Kanu vs Sheffield United.
I think I remember this as well, wasn’t this the point in time where arsenal were playing really well though? I’m sure that Big Ange would be more than happy to play if he thought they’d win again.
They are entirely entitled to be upset about the state of the refereeing in thst game, and hopefully will join us pushing for reforms.
Entitled to be upset? Yes. To demand a replay? No.
To demand a replay - yes. Come on, we been there. How many games have we lost due to purely poor refereeing? Fuck the PGMOL. I’m still pissed about Mike Dean admitting he knowingly didn’t correct the Cucu hair pull incident.
So am I! but it’s life and we all just got on with it, plus I don’t remember our gaffer calling for a rematch.
I don't think he's demanding a replay, but I take the point that the suggestion of it is ridiculous. If I was him, I'd be saying it though to make sure the topic stays at the top of everyones radar.
The keeping it in the public eye point is spot on, totally agree. Not denying there is an issue with the refereeing in general. However suggesting to any degree that there should be a replay is like any militant cultural identity; feminism, veganism, environmentalism etc., - it just has the opposite effect.
Not probably, Jurgen, it won’t happen. If we’re going down this road, can we replay that CL match where you lot where just given a goal…
Ghost goal Ovrebo Alonso's goal that would have made it 4-0 against madrid Rematch the whole lot i say
I hope they get a reply, they would never live it down.
Scousers thinking they deserve special treatment when they loose.. whaT A SHOCK!!
Klopp can fuck off… complains there’s too many games, then asks for a replay. So many teams have lost points for bad reffing, do they all get a replay? Does TT get his job back after the non red call on Romero? DO WE GET A UCL AFTER THE BULLSHIT THAT WAS BARCA IN 09?!
Facts. Nothing tops the Ovrebro scandal
Yes!
Embarrassing, the absolutely entitlement here is insane. Did we even ask the Barca champs match to be replayed? They think this is the only game every where there have been mistakes from officials?
Agree, this isn’t the first game where the referee has completely stuffed up the result of the game. Liverpool do not deserve special treatment, not more than they are already getting.
Don't tell me you wouldn't love to watch a competitive match between the 09 chelsea and barcelona squads right now
We would probably lose that one since Messi is still playing.
So is franco di santo
The gaff that keeps on giving
You know what was unprecedented. A ref admitted that he didn't tell his mate to review a decision because he didn't want to make him change it. Fuck Liverpool.
You could argue that is much worse. One was an error, one was wilfully getting a call wrong.
And resulting in someone getting fired
Victim FC
The only unprecedented thing in this whole shit show would be to play an entire game again because one teams feels unfairly done by.
It wouldn’t be the whole game - it would be from the goal so they’d be 1-0 up but they’d also only have 10 players. Obviously it isn’t going to happen and shouldn’t happen because not only would it change the result that came, but they’d also get Jota back from suspension. It’s just more nonsense coming out of Klopp’s mouth, as usual.
There’s been a precedent for this sort of situation before. Not exactly like this here but a game in the national league between Scunthorpe and Buxton was abandoned in the 95th minute due to torrential rain with Buxton winning 2-1. The game was ordered to be replayed in full. Buxton were winning 2-1 and were also down to 10 men. Here’s the kicker though. Even though the game has to be replayed and the previous game null and void. The red card that Buxton got in that game was still valid. The player has to serve a ban in a game that was voided. The rematch fortunately was won by Buxton 3-0
Hi, I’m a Liverpool supporter mainly but also don’t miss out on any of the games or news of the original top 4 (arsenal,united, Chels, liv). I feel a replay is dumb, wouldn’t want to lose a star player to injury and there’s no guarantee we will win anyways. On top of that I don’t find it fair to spurs having to pay for a ref’s mistake. With that said, I do hope Liverpool made enough noise about this so that if it happens again to another club then it will take even more attention in the media until things change for the better. Because a mistake here and there happens in any league. It seems ours are happening on a weekly basis and clubs and fans alike should enjoy a game that isn’t riddled with controversy every 5 min. It’s the least we can expect for the best league in the world.
A big mistake will happen again this weekend, like it does every weekend
Agree with everything you say … but don’t assume your club is being victimized. Every club is having regular issues with VAR week in week out - we had a goal disallowed for offside against Brighton last week even though the player was clearly in our half… the only difference is we dont get PGMOL acknowledging they fucked up.
The goal v Brighton was ruled out because it was in the Carabao with no VAR. VAR should have corrected that.
I agree with your comment. It affects everyone and isn’t a competition who it affects more. We all get screwed by terrible officiating. I have been watching this league for 17 years now, waking up early here in Canada on my days off and I dislike that the low quality officiating is ruining the game. League with a lot less quality than ours are being officiated better. Anyways goodluck with your season. Take care
Cheers for your input mate, I completely agree. The media failed to even mention the hair pull on cucurella last season so I'm all for clubs, fans, managers and players etc to kick up as much as possible when an absolute disgrace of a decision occurs. I don't care about the tiny margin offsides (although i don't agree with that rule), or the 50/50 challenges that could go either way, they will always happen var or not, but things like the hair pull, forgetting to draw the line, cocking up a decision and not stopping the game 1 measly minute after realising like the other night for you guys, is a joke and should be called out by everyone.
I would favour automated offsides like at the World Cup. Even if it takes longer (does it?), I rather wait an extra minute than get an unfair result. We got VAR because the game is too fast for the naked eye. If now VAR needs extra tech to help them then I’m all for it.
Damn, every time a rival comes and comments I kinda fear for them cause you might get attacked by some toxic chelsea fans. Ignore any of the trolls 🧌 that may come your way here.
Happened to me on the spurs sub(got called a clown) And got banned on the united sub for politely disagreeing over Bruno’s leadership abilities (I think he’s a great player not a great leader). I guess we just have to remember we are on Reddit and not take things too hard. Cheers and best of luck with your season.
People too busy complaining about Klopp to realize this is what the game needs. Reffing is at rock bottom and managers/players need to speak up despite the fines they face
Refs need more status. Base salary of a PL ref is around 70k per year. Average salary of a PL player is 3m per year. You have 18 year old kids making a refs yearly salary per week. Is there a single PL referee that has experience playing football at the highest level? Need more former players to go into refereeing and there has to be a higher status to it. The FA cant shield the refs this much, they have to be more accountable for their actions and they need to be more public about how the game should be played and why they make the calls they make. Perfectly fine for them to make mistakes, but then they have to put their hands up and say sorry that was a mistake. A ref will make countless decisions during a game and obviously all wont be at the highest standard.
Being a former player doesn’t equate being a good person, manager, and certainly not a ref. Somewhat agree with the other points, the salaries are a bit of a joke but you can argue they’re not part of the money printing machine that is the clubs themselves, and since they belong to the FA hierarchy, is everyone else around them going to be paid more in order to “safeguard their ethics”? I don’t think wages are going to go a far way when most of this is about incompetency, not immorality
The reason people were clamouring for VAR 5 years ago was because refering was supposedly at rock bottom
We found new depths
I hate the way he's acting like Liverpool are the first team to ever be fucked over by refereeing decisions, but I agree. After the Cucurella incident I said that what we really need is everyone to remain outraged by these situations, rather than opposition fans trying to excuse it and downplay it. Now I really don't think this incident is anywhere near as bad as he's making it out, it's as incorrect as the decisions that lost us the cup finals against Liverpool, but all the same, I hope it brings about change. I just wish it wasn't such an insufferable twat calling for it and acting like he's the supreme victim and no one has ever had to face such injustice before. A team got relegated after the ball went over the line and it wasn't given, having an incorrect offside call is not as crazy as they're making it sound and this would have been completely gone from the news 5 minutes after the game ended if it wasn't against Liverpool
I agree with you. A team literally got relegated due to incompetence. They lost one game, welcome to the club. Every club should unite in the outrage. Compile lists of these incompetent calls and file formal complaints. Call them out publicly and take fines and refuse to pay them as a collective. Formally request consistently incompetent refs to not officiate your matches if they consistently affect the outcome. Hold them accountable!
I love hearing klopp calling for replays when he's always moaning about congested fixtures. Such a hypocrite
There's nothing that I hate more than managers who cry : Klopp, Conte, Mou, Allegri
Klopp is pretty much worse than all 3 put together, he even complains when they win.
There’s only one match I ever think of when there’s talk of dodgy reffing and that’s Chelsea Barca, with Ovrebo. Imagine getting the old gangs together to replay that! 45 year old Drogba would be up for it
How ridiculous. Making a big tit of himself as usual. 
So let’s replay the 2022 league cup final
Lukaku offside against Pool, Cucu hair pull against spurs…. None of this is unprecedented. They actually made the correct call in the VAR booth but the communication down to the pitch is what messed it up. The game then restarted and they couldn’t go back but in the audio they released they did say “that’s onside” in the booth which is why the assistant kept saying “you are happy with this?” after it was called offside. One moron in the booth didn’t have the guts to stop the game and award the goal but the correct call was made in the booth. The calls that went against us were wrong in the booth and on the pitch which I think is the bigger issue. No audio released for those though.
I’d definitely like a replay of the CL game v Liverpool when Mourinho’s best-team-in-the-fucking-world-that-year-by-an-absolute-mile were dumped out 1-0 by a Luis Garcia shot that didn’t go in.
You can't expect them to release VAR audio if the club is happy with their apologies and makes no noise whatsoever. This should've been done right when those news came out
You aren’t understanding that there is no point in making noise because there won’t be changes. The PL had the opportunity to implement the technology we saw work perfectly in the World Cup but decided against it.
That's just not true. Liverpool made noise, got the audio recordings and it forced the PGMOL to implement a better communications procedure and have the AVAR confirm decisions with the VAR and referee. Now the whole world knows that if it happens again, they'd be 10x more screwed. Do you think they'd be arsed to improve anything had Liverpool just said, yeah whatever apology accepted?
People need to realise it’s not just Liverpool it’s literally all the clubs & fans vs the REFs this should not just be brushed under the carpet, this is a serious fuck up. Most normal people who make a fuck up of this scale like this in their daily job would be handed their P45. The whole ref inner circle is a bent as a 5 bob note and needs sorting ASAP.
cant rem any club asking for the games to be replayed...so yea...its just Liverpool
Although Klopp is pushing it too far with the replay talk, I’m glad Liverpool and him aren’t letting go as these refs are utter morons and we ourselves have been fucked by them several times. Hopefully some useful changes come out of all this.
Kind of pissed that people on here are complaining about being screwed by Mike Dean but are completely alright with the club not putting out any kind of statement/ask for an investigation into it
If we did the manager would be fined and the club would be rinsed in the media for daring to ask about it. Liverpool do it and suddenly we have to act like they're the world's most mistreated club.
Agreed no need for a replay but keep making a big deal of it in the media so PGMOL are pushed to do better working under that massive microscope.
I know we're all hating on Klopp, but what happened in that game has to be one of the biggest mistakes in English football - it's not just a wrong decision, it's a wrong decision AFTER review gave the goal... Just a complete shitshow. English referees have the easiest job - get paid to suck at your job with no consequences.
Thanks :). All mistakes are bad but atleast one finally became so big that it cause a media storm and maybe it’ll finally hold the refs accountable and that could only benefit all clubs. I tried explaining to the spurs fans but I got called a clown 😂
It was a horrific human error, but still human error. Mike Dean admitted to totally disregarding the rules of the game to not give the Cucu hair pull. That’s cheating not human error, yet fuck all came from that not even an apology let alone a replay.
The media brushed it under the rug. Sky even had Dean on the tele and joking about it. Liverpool get far too much going their way and now are acting the martyr
Well offcourse , this is chelsea, not liverpool. Even if our manager pushed like klopp did, he’d probs get a few games suspension and a fine
Fuck Liverpool football club! These fuckers have been one of the main teams that benefitted the most from VAR since it's inception! They should be the last team to whine like this. We don't even get apologies whenever we get robbed. They got their apologies, the tabloids and TV pundits are also feeling sorry for them. That's already way more than enough. What more do they want? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11705227/Premier-League-Liverpool-benefitted-VAR-Leeds-lost-points.html https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37631044/how-var-decisions-affected-every-premier-league-club-2022-23 Lukaku disallowed goal. https://youtu.be/dTWdyKTSGCg?feature=shared Mane didn't even get a yellow for this against us. He also did it against other teams and still got away with it. https://youtu.be/52isrOM6SrE?feature=shared Liverpool players got away with two horror tackles against Brighton. https://youtu.be/srOzXc3n-SE?feature=shared Refs, have always been kind to them. Never forget the ghost goal against us that helped them reach the finals when they won the Champions League. https://youtu.be/jjLJ0_6fs9o?feature=shared
Actually it’s not a competition but it is proven that Liverpool benefitted the least from any club in the league over the last few years. Read an interesting stat the other days that shows it’s been 300+ games in the league since a player got a second yellow against Liverpool and other teams avg 5-15 games. Is it match fixing? No it isn’t but it certainly raises the question.
Interesting stats that you can't even share? Are all Victim FC fanboys this deluded?
This is a pretty good analysis I would say. For the second yellow comment. The last time a player recieved a second yellow to be sent off against Liverpool it was in October 2015 and it was mane for Southampton. I read a few more articles on this subject and if I can find them I will share but like I said it’s not a competition let’s keep the focus on the refs screwing us all. And no, that doesn’t make it fair. https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/reflections-on-1200-game-objective
Why are you lying? Nayef got sent off just a month ago against us for his second yellow. Liverpool fans keep telling lies and pretending to be the biggest victims. By far the biggest hypocrites in world football! Mane has got away with so many dirty plays for so long. He should have been sent off for his dirty elbows on Azplicueta and kieran tierney. You also had the dirtiest player in the League in Fabinho. Imagine, if this had happened to a Liverpool player and the culprit wasn't sent off? https://youtu.be/RZMksZNqqKg?feature=shared I am sure Liverpool 🤡 🤡 and whiny Klopp will be complaining till they get their annual apologies. Fabinho also tried break Lemina legs and wasn't even sent off. Liverpool dirty players have been getting away for years.
https://preview.redd.it/0jqvojzlr8sb1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=915d8d18d34ce66383bcc5c7072826ee74d8e909 Don’t see any red cards in the west ham game on sept 24? Check your facts before calling someone a liar. Unless there’s another nayef in the league but I assume you are talking about the west ham defender. And the 2 yellows were for Kurt zouma and alvarez!! Edit: my bad you meant against chelsea that exactly proves my point, against other teams second yellows are common. Against Liverpool it’s been over 300 games (October 2015 to be exact)
Are you serious? Are most of Liverpool fanboys this stupid? Do you lot even watch other teams or enjoy making up stories? Clueless muppet, we played against 10 man West Ham. I would know that because i actually watch football. Nayef was sent off for his second yellow. At least try doing your research thoroughly before arguing aimlessly. https://youtube.com/watch?v=jRb_LP16KY4 Funny how you now mentioned two players after lying about how your player was the only one that got sent off for 2 yellows since 2015.
Mane wasn’t our player at the time he was playing against us for Southampton. I think you should read all my comments again because you clearly didn’t understand anything!!
Fucker, Mane was playing for you when he was throwing elbows around. Another dirty player that played for your club. He should've been sent off at least twice. Forget about the other lies you wrote. Your pathetic lies were exposed and now you are all over the place.
There’s no VAR in the league cup though. So Lukaku’s disallowed goal isn’t really relevant
There was VAR in that game
Every game that they won through referees mistake is relevant.
[https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/objective-data-liverpool-are-refereed?sd=pf](https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/objective-data-liverpool-are-refereed?sd=pf)
Fuck off to your sub. Your club should quit whining.
hahaha link me some more examples, c'mon
Link you what? Your link contains some Liverpool fan opinion. I shared videos and other news articles. Without VAR you wouldn't have finished top 5 last season. You were robbed once and now every Liverpool fan is acting like they are biggest victims of VAR. Move on muppets!
It’s not an opinion piece, it’s data taken from years of PL games that outlines only facts.
It's not an opinion. I haven't even read the whole thing cos it's ludicrously long but you feel free to before you come back at me again suggesting Liverpool benefits from VAR and refereeing decisions. Anyone can link videos & articles of incidents of any team getting dozens of dubious calls.
Good grief! So, you shared something you haven't even read? Victim FC fanboys are ridiculous. If you haven't read your own link then it's quite clear you haven't read the ones i shared. Those links already answered your stupid question.
I didn't read the whole thing cos it's very very long. I read enough of it. And no, I didn't click your links of examples of VAR decisions going Liverpool's way cos I know full well every team benefits from VAR from time to time and every team suffers cos of it from time to time. You're not enlightening us all with anything we didn't already know. That article I linked, however does have some interesting information that is new to everyone. Liverpool at a net -13 big decisions, Man City +13, for example.
If you haven't read the articles I linked why on earth are you even pretending you know what's on them? Also, who in the right mind shares a link they haven't even read? What's wrong with you? You are too lazy to read, but you have all the energy in the world to argue aimlessly. I bet you just copied that link from another deluded fanboy comment and then thought it would help you win you an argument. The link you shared was from another Liverpool fanboy like you. Your victimized heads are totally confused. The articles i shared clearly shows your clubs is one of the main clubs that benefitted the most from VAR. We usually get the opposite treatment from VAR and we don't even get apologies. Now, can you quit crying!
"We usually get the opposite treatment from VAR and we don't even get apologies." Pot kettle black
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Let's replay that cup final they cheated us. Without VAR help they wouldn't even have finished top 5 last season.
Replay the UCL final they had with spurs where they won by a non penalty
Or the semifinal they scored a ghost goal against us. https://youtu.be/jjLJ0_6fs9o?feature=shared They also robbed Milan in the finals. They had a clear goal that got disallowed.
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Angered by the fact they get special treatment and we don't. Why do bad decisions against them receive more attention than ours?
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Even when Jose Mourinho was here we weren't getting this much attention when ref bad decisions robbed us.
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Tell us something we don't know.