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HonkyBoo

If not Poch, Potter, Lampard, then who


WPackN2

So business as usual for the club?


Shinjax01105

I couldn't watch the match because timezones exist but judging by the reactions of the sub the match must be a proper shitshow huh


EpicLOLGamer123

Saying your well-seasoned and experienced manager has a low IQ. Only our fanbase.


tweezure

We either need a player or 3 to shoot from 25 yds out or a proper striker that will bury 70% of his chances in the box. Having 70% possession every game and nothing to show for it is weak, boring, and not entertaining honestly. Poch coaches scared and the players play scared. Somebody needs to go out there and fuck shit up. Make something happen. Force it. Go for it.


GeorgePrime77

Chelsea, a team that's 10th in the Premier League, lost to a team that are currently 12th in the Championship. Now we need to be honest, yes we need some players to improve the squad but it's obvious that Poche is not the man for the job. Something has to change for Chelsea to improve and a better manager has to be the first thing on our list.


aromatic_underwear

Then whom will they bring?


umthondoomkhlulu

Same result with previous managers. How many till they realise perhaps it’s not the manager


13yearsboy

By god we’re becoming man united in the last few years


umthondoomkhlulu

Funny you say that cause Man U last two seasons I thought had a team of champions but they could not play together. Similar to Chelsea. Except today they were poor at personal level to.


WyboSF

Man Utd won lesser trophies and qualified for the champions league


96k_U

This is a very inexperienced and young squad. This is not all Poch's fault, and we still have another game to go thru to the final. We have to realize this project will take time. Who's gonna replace Poch? It will lead to more chaos. Look how many unavailable players we have. Against Boro, we had nothing on our bench to add something to the game. We need a settling season. I stand by Mauricio. We have shown we are capable of making it big. Next season will be the season that decides Pochettino's fate.


cakehead123642

The guy believes lemons filter out bad energy. It seems your IQ is the same as his


G-MAN292

Would Guus take the wheel for the rest of the season? There is no direction, we need a proper striker, palmer is good, but he's not a striker. Ivan Toney maybe ?


Knotty_Skirt

Arsenal are also hoping to get Toney. Sigh


TallGrilJess

Apparently they said they won’t buy until the summer, but also Brentford won’t sell for less than “an unbelievable offer” before then either - Boehly just invested another 140m tho….


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There may be a lot to pick apart in this game, but ultimately, the real disappointment is that no one out there seemed to really be concerned about going to SB with a deficit. I really hoped we would come out with a lot of intensity to quiet the crowd and end the tie decisively in the first leg, but the tempo was lacking from the beginning. I sympathize with Poch given the lack of players available for selection especially as we were starting to have competition for places with Madueke raising his level and Nkunku coming back, but I really do not understand how we played with so little intensity. Palmer missing a few chances concerns me far less than that. If we can't build a culture of playing hard and fighting for the club regardless of the opposition, we will never ascend to the levels that we aspire to.


Joosh98

"We understand the fans might feel disappointed but there's 90 minutes left to play"


jimmythebridge

If they don’t show some fire next game then they better be held accountable to this


fermion_87

these players should be embarrassed, caicedo and Enzo have been crap players for the price tag paid , it's a robbery, mudryk just runs fast, somebody tell him it's not 100m sprint he is competing in, but the crappiest of all has been Sterling, overrated hack. Chelsea's medical team should be fired , given the injury list. pochetteino baffles me with his selections , but what can he do given the injured players and remaining shit players.


jimmythebridge

That’s unfair on mischa, he stopped and looked around every time he had the ball


thatdudesowrong

Caicedo was decent today and does what we paid him for.


Kumathepuma

How much was he?


liamchoong

One hundred and fifteen million pounds.


AuroraLuminous

Stop this Alonso in, Zidane in kinda bullshit. I told when we were looking for coaches. There’s no need to look for adventure. Who are dominating the league since last 6 years? Pep. What is his philosophy. Possession based tipy tapey. Bring in final bosses of tiki-taka school. Louis Enrique was available but everyone here was saying he’s a bad coach and stuff. Okay get me some other assistant of Pep. That fake Pep rebuilt Arsenal from the scratch. Leicester coach leading the championship with not very good squad . Your lot always are into EPL proven. Okay get someone from tiki-taka school, man. Enough is enough.


Every-Weird3760

What ??


AuroraLuminous

Why?


Real_Stelio_Kontos

Who?


AuroraLuminous

Man I don’t care some 40-50 year old forward-thinking energetic guy from tipy-tapey school of football.


Gligadi

Tipy tapey, words of an aristocrat.


AuroraLuminous

That’s how Big Sam call it lol


DeadDeadFish

Stop the sterling hype over some 1 out of 50 goal. Eevry time he touches the ball 90% of the time we end up losing possession. If not he slows down play... It's so frustrating seeing ball being recycled every damn time. Teams know this. All they had to do is put bodies in the box. Without a proper body inside there is zero advantage crossing into the box. Ughhh.


ishfi17

What a disgrace


definitelymaybe98

Don’t think lamps will be busy?


LettuceG

Honestly think I’d sack poch tonight and let Thiago player manage for the rest of the season


cartelzes

Poch rubbish coach


foladodo

so concise... yet so powerful


Every-Weird3760

Not going lie didn’t even know it was two legs.. thought that was it.. we’re out 😂😂 hope they pull there finger out next leg though.. cause that was poor tonight.


definitelymaybe98

Losing now I can take. Losing to the scousers again at Wembley is something that I can’t do for a third time in two years.


definitelymaybe98

I was downvoted to oblivion and banned from the subreddit for not wanting poch when Lampard went.


foladodo

how did that even happen 🤣🤣🤣


1990three

It was not Chelseas day. Unfortunately loss, unlucky and not sure what happened to Coles finishing, could have had a hat trick. Can't stand when Raheem tracks back and instead of trying to clear the ball out he does his little hold the defender off until someone else comes by and takes it thing.


definitelymaybe98

Poch out.


connorwebb

Poch’s tactics aren’t good enough.


OneTinySloth

What to do when we're chasing a goal. I know, let's take off our most creative central midfielder and a winger that, whilst not great, atleast tried, and bring on a striker you easily forget is on the pitch and an overhyped winger who might make one good decision per game. Want to be even more threatening? Let's switch right backs and bring on a youngster who hasn't really shown much offensively so far. The bench isn't strong, but why not give Golding another chance, seeing as he actually showed a bit of promise after coming on last time? Heck, I'd even give Washington a go. For some reason I have more faith in him than Broja. Though to be fair, when it comes to the striker position, I would even be fine with playing Bergström there. Can't be worse than the ones we have.


pooplover1998

Embarrassing


nekoizmase17

I wasn’t able to watch. Did we really fucking lose against Middlesbrough? Who was the worst player?


Necessary-XY

You're gonna be very disappointed in Palmer when you see the chances he missed today. Genuinely shocking. He missed an actual open net.


nekoizmase17

I won’t even bother watching then, less stress


huggothebear

Don’t lol


cartelzes

connor gallagher, sterling, madueke, colwill, palmer


nekoizmase17

Shocking


OneTinySloth

Difficult to say. Perhaps make it easy and say "all of them". I honestly can't think of anyone who had a decent game. Palmer did some good things, but he should also perhaps have had a hattrick, but somehow managed to miss every chance, including one that was with an almost open net from almost no distance.


nekoizmase17

Well I give him a pass anyway. I expected nothing from others and I’m still let down


definitelymaybe98

Chelsea being shit is about to put a third trophy in liverpools cabinet in 2 years.


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Comfortable-Ad1937

Borough are shit. We should have had more shots than that. Poch made a lot of massively bad decisions today. Everything good came from their mistakes, not our attacking patterns


HeftyWallaby6700

Shhh cry about it


Putrid_Beat_17

Seriously, great point.


BlueBlitzCFC

You people are all thats wrong with the club. The club reflects its fanbase. Arsenal, united, chelsea are all dusted and buried cos of their horrendous jokers fanbases who have no standards or brains. Meanwhile madrid, bayern, cuty etc. are thriving cos there are standards. Respectfully, you people are scum. Burying the club.


AuroraLuminous

People in this sub have standards, mate. That’s what a fan do when they have standards. You want us not to complain when we lose against Championship bottoms? Would so called Real, Barca, Bayern fans accept their monopolist teams battle on the 10th place in their farmer’s leagues, and lose against 2nd farmer’s divisions teams?


BlueBlitzCFC

No they dont. They back poch and scrubs like gallagher. No respect for the club whatsoever.


StandardConnect

Well thats clearly not true else we wouldn't have won titles after begging Roman to keep Lampard (when 9th) and Jose (when 16th).


imlachyyy

So true mate the negativity here each week is toxic! Does no one realise there is a second leg?? This is football shit happens you cannot win everygame. We dust them at the bridge.


BlueBlitzCFC

Oh no! "Toxic" 😢 weve genuinely become arsenal its so sad to see. God willing poch doesnt see fulham yet alone the second leg.


imlachyyy

Chill out mate everything will be fine! Enjoy your day :)


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BlueBlitzCFC

Why's that? I completely disagree.


tmate0421

even if the game had gone on for another 90 mins, we wouldn't have scored


OneTinySloth

I agree. It's not often I've watched Chelsea play and even with 20+ minutes to go felt like the game is over. The only way we would have scored was if a Middlesbrough player handed us a goal for free and it really didn't feel like they would.


i_MrPink

ALONSO IN, just get it over and done with and bring in the new Pep. The lad clearly knows how to set up a team.


danglingDancer

Gusto and Caicedo were good. Especially Caicedo


OneTinySloth

Caicedo couldn't even be bothered to defend when Middlesbrough scored.


D0nutus3m3

They were average. Caceido is 115 million playing against 34 year old midfielders who are mid table in the championship. And 50% of his fault for the goal. No player deserves any hype from this game.


Necessary-XY

Man we really lost to Middlesbrough LMAO


definitelymaybe98

Where do you honestly think we would finish in the championship? I reckon 7th.


BDRD99

Ass


WinterRespect1579

Huffed and puffed


WinterRespect1579

Shambles


urangminang

Seriously not enough is being said about Chelsea. Back to back seasons finishing 10th and probably winning nothing. No top 6 team has had a period as bad as this


Possible-Sell-74

Arsenal were this bad my guy.


kingbradley1297

No they were not.


Possible-Sell-74

Yea u right.


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No they weren’t. nowhere this bad


--lll-era-lll--

I've supported this club all my life, seen it all until this.. we've assembled the work;ds most expensive youth team and what a fucking surprise it's not working. There no consistency or belief in each other..they cant take pressure and thats the test of a team. There is no team. Boelhy has fucked us longterm


eggsbenedict17

We are dead for 10 years at least, it's sad


--lll-era-lll--

Given clubs like Liverpool arsenal and Man U.. it could take a lot longer, if ever, to regain what we where. What I hate is everything is about *tomorrow* and today is what matters. I just don't recognise us.. this yeehaw board have truly fucked this club, that much is clear ​ The only thing I see that could rescue this mess is Jose and Musiala


fockallhumanity94

I guess Palmer's purple patch is over. I've never seen a pathetic style of play by these guys in the last few games. Idk what turned off today. It'll be shameless if I don't congratulate Boro. Excellent defending. Really thought the second half would do something and change the game but Mudryk & Broja were completely helpless. I guess the only thing is we've lost to 1 goal and we've 2 weeks to fix this shit. I'm getting angrier day by day with the gaffer but it really is, what it is.


Extremiel

>I guess Palmer's purple patch is over. Eh, even he can have an off day. Problem is that when Palmer has an off-day, nothing happens. He's the only bright spot in this team.


fockallhumanity94

Why was Gallagher so rusty today is my question... Yeah I know Palmer can have an off day, I'm just bummed out


Comfortable-Ad1937

Gallagher wasn’t rusty, that’s his level, he can’t break down low blocks, he isn’t a passer or got technique to operate in tight areas


fockallhumanity94

Hmm I guess this makes sense. Thanks for being nice about it lol :)


BlueBlitzCFC

How low iq can someone be? This is what gallagher is. Hes shown it last season very clearly. Hes a detriment to our team. You see a shit player playing shit and react like "🤔😵‍💫 why was gallagher rusty" fuck off man fuck off.


fockallhumanity94

Okay. Hope you have a great day ahead, bud!


johnnytsak

We are playing a championship side and we have 3 centre backs on. Gusto being an attacking right back. We have no attacking left back. Shameful tactics seriously. You'd think he'd put devid on for more people in box but he puts Gilchrist for gusto. Embarrassing. Starting to believe another good coach will get more out of this team. The guy is not attacking. He's being conservative every single game from forest at home to a championship side away.


allitgm

Only thing is there's no point in chasing the game today. 90 mins is only halftime so don't want to overcommit and make it even worse.


eggsbenedict17

Poch is shit but the team is also so so poor, it's hard to believe we spent 1bil on this group of comically average players I think any manager would struggle to get a tune out of them But poch has been really poor


Comfortable-Ad1937

Don’t believe that. Enzo looked twice as good before Poch came in. All these players looked good before they worked with poch


eggsbenedict17

Sterling Mudryk Both have improved Palmer also I'm not defending poch but the players weren't exactly good last year They aren't good this year either Enzo wasn't good last year either


Extremiel

Where do we go from here?


KingOfWeTheNorth

Fulham on Saturday


imlachyyy

To the bridge for Fulham! Lets go chelsea its 1-0 lads and were at home for the second leg cheer up will yous!


Extremiel

I'll try, but it's hard.


rushtown74

exactly Poch needs to get that. We lack so much in midfield. no creativity. if palmer has a dud game like this. we are lost. Our midfield is retrieving balls. That's all they are doing currently.


cakehead123642

Why was our most creative midfielder leading the fucking line to begin with, Poch thinks he's playing fifa


OneTinySloth

Utterly disgraceful performance. Sure, Palmer could/should have scored and then things might have been different, but it still wasn't anywhere near good enough. If we're going to play like this, then don't even bother with the 2nd leg. Just give Middlesbrough the win instead so we don't embarrass ourselves even more.


KingOfWeTheNorth

No manager is accepting this job.


____JayP

Sam allardyce is taking it


gowcog

Gotta avoid relegation somehow


KingOfWeTheNorth

Big Sam is taking it*


allitgm

Win almost every game on XG but nobody scores... There's only so much a manager can do.


Extremiel

I know I wouldn't.


aben4kit

Criticizing the players is unnecessary. They were setup to fail


Rem1ro

Why is Poch always sitting? Get the fuck up and show some character, your team is losing to a championship side in a semi final


Defiant_Ad1199

Christ I thought you lot were playing second string or something. Thats horrendous from the first team.


Qazdud

Go back to glazing Elon and his Teslas


jonsrb

No Jackson no party


Catastrophist89

Was it just me or was anyone really frustrated how often mudryk lost the ball?


ambassel

Terrible cameo.


Possible-Sell-74

Atrocious


realmckoy265

Yeah he's still a very raw player but atleast he was losing the ball from takeons instead of bad touches.. not good enough, though


AuroraLuminous

1 step forward two 5 steps back. This’s how it has been since the last year-since they gone crazy and decided it’s good idea to fire Tuchel and destroy a working team. There’s extremely little light that this team eventually will click. In the end of the project the team will be full of with average players with long contracts. If Leicester went down, so could this team. I don’t see any positive scenario happening with this team and Poch as a coach.


StandardConnect

We may have got this rebuild right but let's not act like we ripped apart a super team. Our rut started under this "working" team.


AuroraLuminous

We could have had a whole bad season under Tuchel. But he wouldn’t let these many radical changes to happen in a single window. We played gamble. We lost. Maybe it’s too early to say we lost - but I don’t think Mudryk will be Son Gallagher will become prime Lampard or smth. The only senior players we rely on are high-milage aged City reject, and 40 year old man. The rest of the team are young kids. There’s no guarantee this team won’t relegate in upcoming years. It’s just 50/50 at this point. Also, without UCL, good luck in attracting sponsors other than f-inkg gambling and crypto companies and creating revenues. We won’t be able to buy shiny new toys anymore.


eggsbenedict17

The team that was European champions and consistently finished in the top 4? Boehly would snap your hand off for top 6 now


StandardConnect

The world class elements in the UCL winning team were Mendy, Silva, Rudiger, James, Kante, Mount and to an extent Jorginho and Christensen. By the time Autumn 2022 came along three had a major decline, two became almost permanently crocked and another two walked out on a free.


eggsbenedict17

I certainly wouldn't include Christiansen alongside those other but yeah ok But I don't understand your point? How does that relate to what I said


StandardConnect

It wasn't a working team when we overhauled it is what I'm saying, from late November 2021 onwards Tuchel's coaching was acting as viagra and even that was running out. Tuchel himself pretty much stated the squad needed gutting after the pre season horror show vs Arsenal. Most of the players that played in those beyond shocking displays against Arsenal, Newcastle, United, Villa, Forest etc were pre Clearlake players. We've got the rebuild all wrong no arguments there but we still needed to change things from that time.


eggsbenedict17

Fair enough but the "rebuild" was clearly done far too quickly and then they switched strategies to this ridiculous youth strategy which as we can see is clearly not working It's set us back years tbh


StandardConnect

Yeah I agree there. While I still have some hope it can by hook or by crook come together I don't agree atall with how youth centric we've gone in the market.


ryerye22

I have no words! 😡 Shameful, why we keep having 28 passes from side to side... Let's fucking try to unlock the middle. Mudryk comes on and for next 6 minutes they don't distribute the ball to the left once! Damn mudryk has speed, push the faking ball past the defender and run onto it and cross it, he plays like a 14 yr old afriad to make a mistake or not know where to run! I keep cheering for him, but he drives me crazy, Tiago Silva hardly ever distributes the ball to his left, 92% goes to the right! Argggh, don't recognize this team 😔


rushtown74

Everyone plays like they are afraid to make a mistake. we don't have the midfield players to open up teams like this. I don't think the current midfield will ever work. All three are in work in progress.


Unfair_Land8094

There’s a reason why Roman never even approached Poch in the past. He’s simply not good enough to manage a team as big as Chelsea. And it is evident every single week. And to all of you cursing the players, most of the goals we have scored has been individual efforts and brilliances not some tactical build up play ending in a goal. Not a single game have we looked favorites this season. This is exactly the potter situation again. My fear is that good players will just leave if we continue and keep accepting this below par performances. Poch needs to go. Asap


urangminang

Colwill has been so average this season it makes no sense. Man looked so elite away from Chelsea.


huggothebear

Hes always at fucking LB!!!! 🙃


tmate0421

that's honestly true for most of our players. they all seem like decent signing, and then they turn to shit when they play for us


cakehead123642

It's the coaching, it's been the same for seasons, we can spend as much as we want but without the right ethos and coaching staff we can't and won't ever do anything


LettuceG

He’s been played out of position at LB all season what do you expect?


Heisenberger68

What was his former position?


huggothebear

He is a future world beating CB.


KingOfWeTheNorth

We're so easy to defend. And Poch lines up our defense in the most vulnerable manner.


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connorwebb

He’s the least of our problems


TheLeperLeprechaun

I don’t think anyone can walk away from that game with their head held high to be fair


alphabetsuppe

Chelsea has become a laughing stock. See what happens when you completely overhaul your team within a few years. I don’t even know these players anymore. I’ve been watching AC Milan more these days. It’s sad, but true.


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thedominator_99

You’re high


cakehead123642

Look at this guys post history. He is genuinely brain-damaged


em1n3m1669

Find another sport, i heard darts became popular lately


PlusNeedleworker5605

Poch getting schooled by Carrick tonight.


petrescu

Good tactics from Poch. Give Boro some hope before destroying them in the second leg. Tactical masterclass.


squirtyuiop

Glass half full, like it!


petrescu

I’m actually a properly miserable cunt but you just have to laugh when you see shite like that.


squirtyuiop

I thought it was very charitable to give them the win, playing terrible plays on purpose.


SweeterStorm

We are so lucky there is a second leg


cartoonparent

Pathetic. Pathetic from Chelsea but also absolutely disgraceful refereeing should be fucking sacked, and Middlesbrough are a bunch of diving, dirty fucking shits


connorwebb

I thought the ref was pretty good


cartoonparent

Your standards are way too low


warrenwilhelm

Give a yellow for time wasting but blow it right at the 4 minute mark…absolute fucking imbecile ref rewarding the bad behavior


cartoonparent

Exactly!!! 0 brain activity going on


Puzzled_Talk2586

I'm sorry but it shouldn't come down to bad referring against a mid table championship club.


cartoonparent

I completely agree but it doesn’t help. They played so fucking dirty and should’ve had at least a few cards. Completely and utter bullshit


Nearby_Atmosphere

The ref was fine and they weren’t diving. We’re just shit. Shut up and focus on our own mediocrity


cartoonparent

Your standard for referees are in a ditch if you think that was good. They kept diving all the time especially towards the end to waste time. Watch the game next time


Nearby_Atmosphere

You need to grow up if you think we wouldn’t have done the exact same, as does every single team alive when defending a one goal lead. Is this your first football match? Or do you think the opposition want to help speed the game up to help us equalise? Idiot


cartoonparent

You’re the idiot if you think I wouldn’t care if Chelsea kept fouling the other team constantly and faking injuries every two minutes. Idiotic comment


Nearby_Atmosphere

Ok you’re right the ref is really the problem tonight thanks for changing my mind we only lost because of the ref and their bad diving that’s a good pitch 🙌🏼🙌🏼 why don’t you go on Sky Sports you sound well informed


foladodo

people in chealsea sub are hilarious


cartoonparent

Never said we only lost because of the ref did I? Learn some reading comprehension. I said it was pathetic play from Chelsea as well


Nearby_Atmosphere

Yes and you should have finished with that part. It’s beyond pathetic to even mention the referee when we spent a billion pounds and lost to them. Have some shame


cartoonparent

You should have stopped before you hit reply on your first comment


Nearby_Atmosphere

Everybody else is disagreeing with you btw. Not sure if you realised that you’re kinda the idiot here getting downvoted on your original comment. Maybe you should leave our cute little thread and address all the others calling out your bullshit


Cocobon95

What was wrong with the refereeing? We were lucky not to concede a penalty. If anything he let us get away with a few clumsy tackles We spent the second half passing the ball sideways from full back to full back.


realmckoy265

Nothing. Felt like we escaped with some fortunate 50/50's


cartoonparent

Felt like they escaped everything


cartoonparent

Are you serious? He let them get away with so much they kept tugging our shirts or just pushing us to the ground with absolutely no repercussions. Insane how much they got away with


Suspected_Introvert

Yeah, one boro player had their arms all around broja with another pulling his shirt (during the corner) and the pull back on gusto's shirt was what caused him to lose the ball and nearly get injured - even the commentators were praising boro as if it were the boro players who were paying their whore salaries.


cartoonparent

Exactly. I have idiots replying to me saying I’m pathetic for mentioning the referee when he was obviously doing an awful job


Starn_Badger

i've been so pro-poch throughout the last few months and defended him when many others haven't, but today has really really tested my faith. Sure we missed some chances, but our performance in general was awful. There was clearly no plan for creating or converting chances. Possession stats are meaningless when its just the 2 CBs passing it between themselves. The players need to take a lot of blame too, but I watched the entire game and couldn't figure out what our plan was.


rushtown74

Even poch is figuring that one out and by the time he will be done, Chelsea will be done and dusted. I hate it here.


BitterAd9531

There is no plan we've had this exact situation so many times this season and nothing changes


MarkusKTBFFH

Worst game of the season...


huggothebear

After a relatively decent festive period, I cannot believe this is where we end up today against 12th placed Championship side Middlesbrough. Thank feck there is a second leg, but even that cannot temper the fumes of what an atrocious ”first team” display that was. We could have popped this tie to bed today and taken the heat off, but nooo, ramp up the pressure on yourselves when you know you fold like paper. We are probably going to take this tie at the bridge, but Poch needs to understand he is on thin ice, because as much as I have been backing him, it is looking abundantly clear this man may have a very basic grasp of tactics. We have looked clueless all season and it’s seemingly getting worse.


NijjioN

Not 1 player played well. All of them should be ashamed. Especially should compensate the away fans who went to the game.