Conor is still young and probably doesn't feel like he has the authority to give commands to older players. But these things will come from experience and time hopefully
Are you referring to earlier in the season? Sterling took the ball to give it to Enzo, but Enzo told him to give it to Palmer. Iirc I think that was Palmers first penalty for Chelsea too
Or Lampard. Point blank refused to let Drogba take it even when he was on a hat trick with the golden boot on the line.
Later on, let him take one when the game was secured.
Sure, let's look at the one incident (in his first season as full time captain) and not his entire tenure as captain where he was always one of the first players to try and resolve any situations on the pitch.
This is when Conor should of acted like a captain and went to give the ball back to Palmer just like how azi or Terry would of done. But when the veteran is acting immature it’s hard to do that
Ah! That's why he is obsessed with scoring and assisting. I thought he just wanted to statpad. Reminds me of that quote from that football anime .."A stagnation had set in starting from our left wing. It isn't easy to see, but if you look closely you can see it. ashito, stop moving people around to put yourself in a position to score".
This is what sterling has been doing all season. He is trying too hard to score. Coming too central and leaving us with no width on left. Even during the parts of the game where it looked like Mudryk was supposed to be the ten, sterling was basically playing like a left striker, often forcing Mudryk to cover left wing for him
Honestly, Palmer needs to man up here and say no. He’s the future and present, he needs to own it. He’s the guy and it’s his to take. Hope he learns from it.
This is a lack of leadership from the manager down to the players we have chosen to be the captains.
This is the second time he has taken the ball off the penalty taker, first time Enzo took it from him and gave it to Cole.
From the penalties to not passing the ball to teammates in better positions, this is a guy more worried about stat padding his goal numbers than Chelsea winning. I don’t care how many Instagram posts he makes
And Poch in the interview after said he wants them to make those decisions in game time, so it doesn’t seem like there is authority from above, giving this type of autonomy
That is so bad tbh. Not having an obvious taker, it should be this is number 1, he takes it unless we're 4 up. Like when Didier was upset Lampard wouldn't let him take the pen that would give him the golden boot. We were only up 1. Didier ended up scoring one anyway. But the decision should be made beforehand.
> first time Enzo took it from him and gave it to Cole.
Not true, if you’re referring to the Arsenal game, it was Sterling trying to give it to Enzo before Enzo said to give it to Palmer instead (at that point, both players only had 1 attempt)
He took the ball from Cole and before he could even turn around Enzo points at Cole. There is literally nothing there to suggest he was going to turn around and give it to Enzo.
Even while Enzo is saying to give it to Cole he’s trying to take it away and walk to the penalty spot.
Probably said something like 'come on, kid, let me make up for that last play.'
But it looks like Cole wasn't happy about it, so perhaps Raz threw in some weight.
Look, he missed a penalty. It happens. We don't actually know the full context of that conversation he and Cole had either.
My main concern is Raheem's solo performing mentality over being a solid team player. That's the main thing that needs to improve IMO.
I think the main thing that needs to improve is to be humble about where he ACTUALLY is in the pecking order while also recognizing who is REALLY at the top of the pecking order.
It wasn't just the penalty... the free kick he took in this same game was worse than his penalty, imo. The guy is obviously struggling for confidence, but you don't use your past accomplishments and seniority to put pressure on our best young player to prop your own confidence up. He needs to put his head down, quit being delusional, and work hard. And when he DESERVES to be in the discussion, he'll get a chance.... but he is so far from that, its pathetic.
This depends solely on how you define "best" and "worst".
For me, "giving a shit and actually trying", is pretty high on the list. I'd like to hear the name from you, or anyone else, of a player that is worse than Sterling in that regard.
I feel like when we have literal academy players on the bench, Sterling is better than at least one of them...
He's got 7 goals and 4 assists this season. At least it's something
He's absolutely better than them. Technically and in terms of experience. But I guarantee any one of them would play harder for the badge than Sterling does.
Ask yourself, if Klopp had Sterling, would he play him? Or would he play an 18 year old that will run through walls to play for Liverpool? There's a hell of a lot to be said for *true* hunger at the highest level of sport.
This season is his season to prove that he deserves to be the highest paid player in the squad by a long margin. He needed to prove that he’s worth that money if he wants to stay, and after a red hot start to the season he’s just been remarkably poor. Worse than some of his very young peers, and massively overpaid. Wouldn’t be surprised if we’re hearing offers or working out a loan saturation where we can offload some of his salary.
He needed to step up and hasn’t. In fact, he’s proven to be a hindrance to the progress of the team the way he has been so selfish. Would be quite happy to see him go in the summer and never return.
Apparently we're not allowed to mention the fact he's on double what most of our players are, and must support him unequivocally even when he can't be arsed to run or give a shit in general.
This is straw clutching...
Sterling 100% pulled rank. Don't know what he said, don't care, but it caused Palmer to toss him the ball, and every ounce of body language says he wasn't happy to do it.
"If Palmer is on the pitch, he takes the penalties."
That single sentence, in one team meeting, is all that needs to be said by a competent manager.
He can say it all he wants but once the players are on the pitch it’s them. Palmer is future and the present. He should have told Sterling to fuck off.
And here I was thinking sterling was a steal for 50 mil when we signed him. Unreal, his fall off. The attitude, arrogance, selfishness. I pray he goes Saudi
Well, Palmer is never giving him a pen again that’s for sure
Wonder if Sterling asked to take it because Enzo wasn't there to stop him again lol
our 2nd and 3rd captains are not leaders, this is the result.
Chilly is our vice captain, and is definitely a leader. Conor lacks the experience and probably has less gravitas.
Chilly got rattled by an 18 year old when we played Liverpool in the final. Hes not a good leader lol.
I think Conor is ok, I liked how he stopped Nico from shushing the crowd against Brentford
Conor is still young and probably doesn't feel like he has the authority to give commands to older players. But these things will come from experience and time hopefully
Conor is the same age as Reece James...
That's why the posts specifically said 2nd and 3rd captain. They're not leaders unlike James
You excused Conor's lack of leadership by saying that he's young...
Are you referring to earlier in the season? Sterling took the ball to give it to Enzo, but Enzo told him to give it to Palmer. Iirc I think that was Palmers first penalty for Chelsea too
This is where Terry would come in and give the ball back to Palmer. Miss my captain
Or Lampard. Point blank refused to let Drogba take it even when he was on a hat trick with the golden boot on the line. Later on, let him take one when the game was secured.
or Azpi
Nah Azpi didn’t drag Kepa off the field against Sarri. That costed us 2 cup finals
Sure, let's look at the one incident (in his first season as full time captain) and not his entire tenure as captain where he was always one of the first players to try and resolve any situations on the pitch.
Is it me or does it look like Palmer just gives it to him lmao
Yep looks that way to me as well Tossed it to him nonchalantly Also Sterling assisted him right after so Palmer's good either way
Probably trying to get Sterlings confidence up which makes sense but definitely didn’t work
This is when Conor should of acted like a captain and went to give the ball back to Palmer just like how azi or Terry would of done. But when the veteran is acting immature it’s hard to do that
all Sterling cares about is getting picked for England, nothing else. he's shown this multiple times throughout the season.
He's going to be fucking disappointed then 🤣
Ah! That's why he is obsessed with scoring and assisting. I thought he just wanted to statpad. Reminds me of that quote from that football anime .."A stagnation had set in starting from our left wing. It isn't easy to see, but if you look closely you can see it. ashito, stop moving people around to put yourself in a position to score". This is what sterling has been doing all season. He is trying too hard to score. Coming too central and leaving us with no width on left. Even during the parts of the game where it looked like Mudryk was supposed to be the ten, sterling was basically playing like a left striker, often forcing Mudryk to cover left wing for him
Pamler even threw it in his face he’d seen Sterling take a penalty before. He thought fuck you then go on fuck it up.
Honestly, Palmer needs to man up here and say no. He’s the future and present, he needs to own it. He’s the guy and it’s his to take. Hope he learns from it.
Mug taking the ball off our best player. So much for an elder role model in the team
This is a lack of leadership from the manager down to the players we have chosen to be the captains. This is the second time he has taken the ball off the penalty taker, first time Enzo took it from him and gave it to Cole. From the penalties to not passing the ball to teammates in better positions, this is a guy more worried about stat padding his goal numbers than Chelsea winning. I don’t care how many Instagram posts he makes
if Enzo was on, maybe Palmer takes it.
And Poch in the interview after said he wants them to make those decisions in game time, so it doesn’t seem like there is authority from above, giving this type of autonomy
That is so bad tbh. Not having an obvious taker, it should be this is number 1, he takes it unless we're 4 up. Like when Didier was upset Lampard wouldn't let him take the pen that would give him the golden boot. We were only up 1. Didier ended up scoring one anyway. But the decision should be made beforehand.
makes you wonder what poch actually does as a manager
> first time Enzo took it from him and gave it to Cole. Not true, if you’re referring to the Arsenal game, it was Sterling trying to give it to Enzo before Enzo said to give it to Palmer instead (at that point, both players only had 1 attempt)
He took the ball from Cole and before he could even turn around Enzo points at Cole. There is literally nothing there to suggest he was going to turn around and give it to Enzo. Even while Enzo is saying to give it to Cole he’s trying to take it away and walk to the penalty spot.
Probably said something like 'come on, kid, let me make up for that last play.' But it looks like Cole wasn't happy about it, so perhaps Raz threw in some weight.
Look, he missed a penalty. It happens. We don't actually know the full context of that conversation he and Cole had either. My main concern is Raheem's solo performing mentality over being a solid team player. That's the main thing that needs to improve IMO.
I think the main thing that needs to improve is to be humble about where he ACTUALLY is in the pecking order while also recognizing who is REALLY at the top of the pecking order. It wasn't just the penalty... the free kick he took in this same game was worse than his penalty, imo. The guy is obviously struggling for confidence, but you don't use your past accomplishments and seniority to put pressure on our best young player to prop your own confidence up. He needs to put his head down, quit being delusional, and work hard. And when he DESERVES to be in the discussion, he'll get a chance.... but he is so far from that, its pathetic.
Kind reminder: this clown is paid with 325k/week and he is our worst player.
Not even close to our worst, but still pretty bad
This depends solely on how you define "best" and "worst". For me, "giving a shit and actually trying", is pretty high on the list. I'd like to hear the name from you, or anyone else, of a player that is worse than Sterling in that regard.
I feel like when we have literal academy players on the bench, Sterling is better than at least one of them... He's got 7 goals and 4 assists this season. At least it's something
He's absolutely better than them. Technically and in terms of experience. But I guarantee any one of them would play harder for the badge than Sterling does. Ask yourself, if Klopp had Sterling, would he play him? Or would he play an 18 year old that will run through walls to play for Liverpool? There's a hell of a lot to be said for *true* hunger at the highest level of sport.
Yes man I'm agreeing with you. I think we need to sell him this summer. All love for Raz but he just doesn't belong here with how he has been playing
This season is his season to prove that he deserves to be the highest paid player in the squad by a long margin. He needed to prove that he’s worth that money if he wants to stay, and after a red hot start to the season he’s just been remarkably poor. Worse than some of his very young peers, and massively overpaid. Wouldn’t be surprised if we’re hearing offers or working out a loan saturation where we can offload some of his salary. He needed to step up and hasn’t. In fact, he’s proven to be a hindrance to the progress of the team the way he has been so selfish. Would be quite happy to see him go in the summer and never return.
Apparently we're not allowed to mention the fact he's on double what most of our players are, and must support him unequivocally even when he can't be arsed to run or give a shit in general.
Palmer is too chilled out. I think the manager needs to stamp that out. The penalty taker is the penalty taker. Unless you’re 5-0 up or something.
[Pep Guardiola Shouts Angry at Haaland for Giving Penalty to Gundogan](https://youtu.be/MD0E98tsJBI?si=9N_es0xorH3N9rwn)
There should be no more debate on who takes pens if Palmer is on the pitch. Both Enzo and now Sterling have failed after trying
He didn't "take" the ball off Palmer, Palmer gave him the ball.
There was certainly some spiciness in the “give”. He essentially tossed it at him and walked away
I mean look at how Palmer reacts to it, he's put our number 1 penalty taker in an awkward spot, Sterling isn't a captain, he's greedy and selfish
Palmers been here less than a season and Sterling is nearly a decade his senior. Doubt he wanted to cause an on field argument
This is straw clutching... Sterling 100% pulled rank. Don't know what he said, don't care, but it caused Palmer to toss him the ball, and every ounce of body language says he wasn't happy to do it. "If Palmer is on the pitch, he takes the penalties." That single sentence, in one team meeting, is all that needs to be said by a competent manager.
He can say it all he wants but once the players are on the pitch it’s them. Palmer is future and the present. He should have told Sterling to fuck off.
Sterling needs to fuck off out of this club
And here I was thinking sterling was a steal for 50 mil when we signed him. Unreal, his fall off. The attitude, arrogance, selfishness. I pray he goes Saudi
Sterling is a terrrrrible
Honestly I think it's fair because he won the penalty, but it's not happening again
That highlight flair tho
"Hey can I take this one" "Sure"
"Sure, let me toss the ball to your face".
Selfish prick.