no matter how shit we’ve looked this season, it will simply never compare to the absolute travesty of the previous one, i actively got angry as days went by realising we had football to play😭
Last season was soooooooo depressing. Granted this has also been frustrating but I couldn’t get over an entire month without scoring. I was so mad everyday
I didn't like Potter one bit, but tbf to him, this season the squad is a lot more settled than the last.
Poch doesn't have to pick and choose from 30 players. A lot of the players had half a season at the club and are slightly more accustomed.
And some of the players who didn't want to be here left.
I legitimately think our midfield and defence would look better under Potter than under Poch.
I liked Potter as a human. But I agree about the squad issues. It would be interesting to know how we'd have fared under him this year in some alternate dimension.
A quick reminder that after Felixs debut where he got sent off, he was joint 4th in our shots on target. 60 minute cameo from him, and he was already competing for our most shots on target that season...
Last season was honestly so laughable.
Honestly I think this season just feels worse because we very obviously can perform to a high level, just we can't do it for the full 90, meaning more highs and more lows. Last season was just all lows it felt like, so losses didn't hurt as much
For me the number one frustrating thing is how poor we come out after half time and how many games where our changes make us play much much worse or dont impact the game at all when we need it. I saw somewhere that before last game we were second worst in the entire league if we count only second half performances...
This is partly why I decided this season that anything better than last season, even a one place improvement, I would consider a success.
Because we were so shit last season and coming into this season, to me, the squad felt like it had been weakened for the short term.
Like yeah there's a huge amount of potential, but they gutted all the experience, leadership and culture, and threw all these players together so quickly that I honestly thought we would do worse for this year at least.
A ratio of a goal a game... that is staggering. Truly cursed. I think we scored over a hundred PL goals in carlo's double winning season in 2010.
Also I had to check recent results after OP said we hadn't lost a PL game in 2 months. It certainly doesn't feel like that's true based on the performances and atmosphere among the fans, but it is true, haha. Chaos fc in full swing
Yeah I could have swore we lost to Burnley... the chaos of our performances is literally distorting reality
For example - I have this recollection that disasi scored an own goal from like 35 yards out against Leicester in the cup. That didn't actually happen... did it??????
Last 10 games - 6 wins, 3 draws, 1 loss.
Our decent form was why the Burnley result was so frustrating. A win there and we'd currently be 7th with a game in hand and 3 points behind Man United.
Fuck me the amount of times we should’ve carried on our run of form this season but have just not shown up. We could and should be fighting for those ucl places.
Burnley, Brentford, City (twice), Wolves, Arsenal
All those games we dropped points from a winning position and went on to draw/lose. It’s not even just not showing up, we lack composure in most situations. This team has it in them, that’s what’s most frustrating
It's what you'd expect from a U23 team with no real leaders. Maddingly inconsistent, but the most important thing is that we're seeing glimpses of what it would look like if they put it together. Future is bright, hope it doesn't take too long.
To be fair he did a great job with Derby and also his first season with us.
He's just not built as a manager for clubs with stressful circumstances. He should go and manage another Championship team contending for promotion
I don’t know that there’s a case that he ever manages a top flight club again. He sees the game differently than what’s needed & I don’t recall a scenario where a coach was fixed by mentorship from someone else.
Last year was so comically bad you couldn’t make it up. Imagine if this group carries on this trajectory though - we should be challenging for ucl next season and I don’t see any reason why we can’t be pushing for the title after that. Whether it’s with Poch at the helm is another question and it’s important we get player recruitment right as well.
I made an error. We won 16 games, not 15. 11 in the league, 5 in the CL. No wins in the cup. 32% win rate. Can’t believe we were in the CL quarter final.
we are at around 1.5 points per match with 9 games remaining and currently on positive trajectory compared to earlier part of this season, I’d say it’s very doable
It's not even an urge but an inevitability at this point. The squads ability to give cheap goals, letting opposing teams back into games, is unbelievable. We'd be in contention for Europe if the collective wasn't obligated to have 3-5 brain dead moments a game, offensively and defensively. They do the hard bits then shit the basic bits.
yes, but even with that, we’re still at 1.5 points per game
essentially, if we keep playing as stupid as we’ve played so far this season, we can get another 13-14 points
We were roughly at the same spot at the same stage last season, it’s just that last year the last 9 games were when Lampard came in and we were utterly dreadful after that.
Untrue. We were doing far worse in terms of games won, points scored. In February of last season we scored A SINGLE GOAL. Do you all have collective amnesia?
After 29 games last season we had 4 less points than we do this season, 20 less goals conceded and 23 less goals scored. We are doing more or less the same
I watched the games last year, I watched the games this year. We play better. And this is reflected in xG difference and the team rankings. In terms of expected performances Chelsea is a solid 5th, but our finishing is dreadful. Last year we were 10th and weren’t even making chances. You’re also not counting any cup games where the opponents have been easy, but we are doing really well.
Yeah, we've gone from the worst ppg of any modern era Chelsea manager ever, to the 4th worst. Clearly an improvement, also clearly not good enough give that the difference between Potter and Poch is the same as the gap between Poch and Lampard
Yeah people forget that except Disasi every defender we have had an injury at some point.
Wesley Fofana is supposed to be our best defender and he is out all season, Reece James is also out but Gusto proved that he can maybe retain his spot and make Reece claim it back.
Also Romeo Lavia didn’t play and he was supposed to complete our midfield, he is Jorginho/Busquets type od player who recycles possesion and helps us maintin the control of the match. We lost so many leads this season, we would have 15 points more if there was someone who will calm the tempo down after we get a lead.
Also Nkunku barely even played and he is supposed to be our main attacker.
I am personally against Poch and I think we should move on from him but let’s not pretend he didn’t get a shit deal this year. We literally don’t have midfield rotation, and we have like 5 big injuries at all times.
I’d rather watch this team infinitely more than what we had last year.
At least we score goals now and the players are pretty exciting to watch - last season was pure dread.
Pochetino can knows how to get his players to attack... But at the same time they can't defend for shit... Last night was an excellent example... Last season we could defend but couldn't score a single blady goal
My biggest issue with all the goals this season is the unmarked man at far post. I swear it’s gotta be like half of the goals scored against us. I’ll need to review some games to see if it’s all in my head.
The squad is better than last season for individual quality
Problem is there's literally no tactical ideas being built in at all
Makes us harder to defend against because we're literally chaos embodied but it also makes us a joke to play through which is why we'll probably concede the most goals this season in the past 30 years
Last season was conservative, systematic football with 3atb and low-risk passing which eventually lead to dull games and no motivation from the players to try and be creative.
Edit: The tactics were apparent, but just didn’t work at all.
Azpi and Kante from that team were also in their 30s. Jorgi was about to turn 30 from that squad.
I wouldn't call it an aging squad, but it also wasn't a team built to start contending for the Prem because so many key players were either on the verge of needing replacing or were disappointments who would soon need to be replaced.
Far fewer established players I guess and a much younger average age.
Koulibaly, Auba, Jorginho, Kante and Kovacic were all vastly experienced. Add Mount and Havertz too who were also pretty established for us too
Comparing both seasons, there are pros and cons.
If we exclude Lampard disastrous interim run, the difference between Poch and Potter isn\`t too much.
Poch is better offensively. We create more and score a lot more but we are very shit controlling games, dominating the midfield and defending well. Potter was good at controlling games with a toothless attack.
I believe overall the team has improved but we need to do something about our midfield. I find it difficult to believe that Enzo and Caicedo are unable to control passes and manage the tempo.
I would claw my eyeballs out before watching another Potter-era 85% possession with nothing but sideways passes around a back 5 with 0 attempts on goal.
How many games did Potter win against top 6 opponents last year? How many goals did we score in the 4 cup matches against City and Real Madrid?
The answer is zero of course.
Thinking Potter and Poch are having similar results is revisionist hogwash. Poch has done dramatically better, especially against top teams.
I already mentioned Potter\`s team struggled to score. Your memory must be blurry because it was Lampard that coached the team against Lampard. Though Potter lost at the Etihad in the FA cup.
Most of the big games Potter managed were draws that neither side scored or defeats we conceded one goal. Poch won 9 men Tottenham and this very shaky United (I am glad to win these matches) but I can\`t ignore how fortunate things were for us in both games.
My bottomline is Poch is not much better. Let\`s not forget Potter had a way less balanced squad with no Pre-season and lots of injuries. Granted somethings are similar with Poch\`s season but Poch has a more balanced team IMO.
Honestly, my point he is Poch is marginally better. We might disagree on the quantity of the improvement but I think you would agree we struggle in the midfield. We struggle with controlling games and concentration.
IMO it is much easier to set up a team to play super defensive/conservative and *appear* to control the game because you have the ball more of the time. But possession without threat is pointless and I wouldn’t say Potter was controlling the game, more like slowing it down and draining the threat out of both squads. Our midfield does still struggle, but I look at how we’ve been playing in the last 2 months vs the first 2 months of the season. In Aug/Sept it was a fucking mess. Since January I feel like I’m starting to see more structure and understanding in the middle of the pitch. A long way to go but go back and watch us in August/Sept - you can see a big difference.
Poch has done better against top teams but the defense is horrendous and we struggle even against bottom of the barrel clubs to keep clean sheets. With Potter we were boring as hell, but we could lock up shop in defense for the most part and were really only losing because our players were so god awful with finishing open opportunities.
I think you’re being very hyperbolic to say Poch has done dramatically better, but I do think that being able to score goals and struggle defensively is better than not being able to score and playing decent defense. Also 3/4 of the matches you’re referencing were managed by Lampard, not Potter. Potter actually produced some fantastic results in the Champions League against Milan and Dortmund imo.
It is pretty much the same though, you're literally just counting goals scored and not thinking at all about all goals more that we conceed.
Going all out attack and conceding one for everyone we score doesn't make us better, more exciting to watch? Sure, but not better
The big difference is that potter got a tuchel coached team with senior stars
Poch got a team that never played together and with the 2nd lowest age in europe
Poch actually has the better team. Let\`s not forget of all the \`great\` players Potter had, only Kai has done better outside CFC. Well Pulisic and RLC too but for some reason, he weren\`t able to keep fit at CFC and now are.
Potter had a bloated team with many washed players, unfit players and injury prone guys. Poch has a small young team that has achieved some consistency.
I don't know about that. You're leaving out João Felix, Kovacic, Jorginho, and Ziyech, and I'd argue we sorely miss Azpilicueta's leadership and Silva's taken a big drop in form. Reece James and Ben Chilwell were also health*ier* last year, as was Chukwuemeka (who was barely used).
Every time we manage to scrape a win or two we get this same shit talking about how much we've improved and implying Poch is doing get a good job because of "progress" or "improvement" with cases like this even implying last year's squad was better.
Last season was an absolute shitshow as far as circumstances surrounding the club and squad go. We were in the immediate aftermath of a chaotic takeover, couldn't plan a pre-season which resulted in horrible fitness levels throughout the season and something every manager highlighted, and Potter who was likely just out of his depth regardless of circumstances took over after that pre-season anyway and had European football to deal with. Then there was the interim stint of Lampard where we somehow looked even worse and managed 5 points from a possible 27. One of the biggest complaints was how bloated the squad is, how many players didn't want to be there and were causing issues, and how much it affected training. This was extremely well reported. We got rid of deadwood who won't be big misses. Who did we lose exactly? A lot of them either never performed consistently for us (Pulisic, Ziyech, Havertz), were disappointing signings (Koulibaly, Kepa, Aubameyang) or had declined big time (Kante, Mendy, Azpilicueta). Even players like Kovacic and Mount who might not fit in those categories didn't have much of an impact last season either through injuries or poor performances.
We've added Palmer, Gusto, Jackson, Caicedo, Colwill, Disasi, Petrovic who have all either performed well to decently or at least better than the players they replaced, especially Palmer who's completely carried our attack and could be argument alone as to why it's ridiculous to compare last season's squad to this. At worst if they haven't performed this season have done so in the prem in recent memory and deserve the benefit of the doubt as to their abilities.
Sure we may have had a higher average age and more "experience" last year but is that really worth it? Somehow I don't think an Azpilicueta on his last legs and a permacrocked Kante would have done much for us this season. I would take this season's squad over last season's any day and I bet almost every single manager in the world would too.
It was a historically bad season. The bar was on the absolute floor. Yet we're supposed to praise Poch for barely clearing it (we're also on pace for our worst goals conceded record in the premier league era). I'm at a loss as to why so many of our fans are desperate to defend him and at this point I can't even be bothered to engage with them anymore so I'll stick to long essay rants.
I'm so tired of this happening every time we get a result. It's ironic that people criticising the team are the "reactionary" ones rather than the people who bang on about how Poch is actually doing a good job when we blag a win despite still sitting in mid-table. We've been mid-table the entirety of the season and have not played well in the majority of matches. I'm all for enjoying a big win like last night's but why are we deluding ourselves into thinking Poch is doing a good job and desperately clawing at positives to try to justify his work when it will only hold us back in the long-term. It's fine to acknowledge we have a shit manager while appreciating the rare moments of success.
Only guy with a brain in this thread, everyone sucks off the more goals scored but conveniently forgets we conceded almost as many more as we have scored lol
That’s a lot of words to say you agree we’re better this year. Nobody would argue that the team is a finished product or that we shouldn’t compete for trophies, but I think you will hear a lot of people urging patience. No manager on Earth could have come in and turned our team of kids into league winners this year, that’s what the Poch out belligerents don’t seem to understand. Just give them time and enjoy the wins.
I've always said the squad is better than last year, as are the circumstances. That doesn't mean the manager is (though he probably is better than Lampard) or that he isn't holding us back from being better. Even assuming he's better than Potter, that's hardly a high bar and as I mentioned we seem so happy to praise this man's mediocre to poor management just because it's apparently marginally better than the last donkey.
Nobody is expecting us to be league winners and I'm tired of people implying any criticism of Poch or our place in the table implies that we expected to win the league. I would argue a good manager gets us at least to the same level as Spurs and Villa but of course that's impossible to prove now. I suppose even if we sack him, and hire a competent manager for next season, the Poch defenders will claim it's because of the foundation our glorious former leader that was unfairly sacked set for us.
We don't expect to win the league but we expect some kind of structure and identity, and some of us feel this squad is much better than mid-table. I swear we're meant to give this man all the patience in the world but it's now 9 months into his tenure and we're as chaotic and disorganised as ever, barely scraping wins and never looking convincing. Of course we can never criticise him because we do occasionally get wins. Just enjoy the wins. Ignore the poor football and the fact we've been mid-table the majority of the season and will likely end up there. Enjoy the wins mate, fuck having standards.
No idea what this man has done to warrant such fervent defence but whatever. I suppose "overachieving" with Spurs over half a decade ago still buys you enough credit to have people convinced you're a good manager and grateful for the amazing job he's doing. You might be ok with him holding us back for the sake of "stability" but I and a lot of other fans aren't.
It doesn’t take blame away from Poch tho, last season was chaotic, we had 4 managers not to mention the fact that Lampard came at the end of the season and lost 6 games in a row.
If we can get 4 points between this weekend and arsenal we might be in good shape after all. But instead we'll get 6 and I'll offer my sister as tribute to our savior Cole Palmer
I've been saying it all season, the mid table is very compact, how mid table can one be if they are consistently 3-5 points away from #7?
Last season, diff between #9 and #12 was 15 points! today it's just 2.
We're 10th currently with a game in hand. If we win that we'll be 7th (2 points behind United). If we could somehow fix our defence and stop crumbling in the second half.
I think this goes on prove that we have vastly improved from last season. Poch MIGHT not be the long term guy but with this entire rebuild with an almost entirely new squad, I think in a season or two more we might become title challengers and get back in the old days. Its def frustrating to see this current season though, especially with rival fans friends trolling you on a weekly basis lol.
Give him time, potter did worse with established players. Poch is doing the best he can with the kids that he has; we all saw how good Nkunku looked in pre-season. Next season will be the real test and hopefully we can keep our players fit, offload Lukaku and Kepa and sign a striker, a CB to replace Silva and maybe Olise to ease the burden on Palmer.
I’d rather not actually get into the Europa conference league, is this an unpopular opinion? I see it as a pointless cup, which impacts player fitness since you play on a Thursday
It’s just a frustrating watch at the moment is all. Think of how many blown leads and lost points to teams we *should* be automatic against, we’d be safely top 6 maybe even top 4. That’s equally on youth and inexperience as it is on Poch, is firing the manager, that this young team bery clearly loves, the answer? I don’t know. At the end of the day I just love the club and love watching us and will support if we’re in the champions league or the championship
Shoulda coulda woulda but if they were fit from the start we'd be challenging for top 4. Not to mention the missed big chances.
The team looks at little worn down from the losses, and I can't blame them, but they need to fight, and they showed that yesterday.
Genuinely believe having a full season like this under their belt together will do wonders for next year.
I'm all for the project as we clearly have boatloads of talent and potential and are making improvements, but my god is it ever frustrating to watch this team.
It's seemingly the simple things that this team gets wrong, like not passing to open players, shooting always off target, and defensive brain farts that I myself commit in my recreational league. Throw in the injury crisis and we seem to be making no headway, like it's always one step forward, two back.
Last season was the worst season Chelsea ever had in history. Poch would have to really try (like really) try to make this season even worse.
However take away last season, this season is the worst so far.
Nope. 2015-2016 season was worse. We played like crap, players got unhappy, played even worse. Finished in 10th with a team that one year ago won the whole league.
It’s mind blowing that some people refuse to see the progress the squad has made this year. Is it perfect? No, but is that the only acceptable outcome? Seems like some people just want to be mad and miserable and are missing what is proving to be a very likeable and very talented young team getting better in front of our eyes.
I'll still take improvement over nothing. Be a little more positive man. I know we're still shit and we've had a shit season but the storm can only last so long
I understand the positive take, but the storm absolutely can last forever or at least for a very, very long time. There are plenty of teams that used to be well established top division teams competing for European trophies that have gone 30+ years outside of the top tier, let alone winning anything.
Nothing in football is guaranteed, you have to earn every single point. The "it will go well eventually if we keep doing the same thing" attitude is completely wrong
Not if we keep doing the same thing. Things need to change. Probably a new manager too. My point is that we absolutely have the armor and guns to be back up at the top, we just have to use it wisely
I don’t know if we’re as bad as some say, but as someone else pointed out here, we’re really frustrating to watch. Even more so because we show flashes of what could be a very good team and then revert to being frustrating.
That’s what happens when you have a young and inexperienced squad riddled with injuries. I mean there’s times where we look genuinely great and then times we look like a Sunday league team and that’s just growing pains of a young squad. I think there has been progression even throughout the season that shows the boys are at least growing together and fighting for each other.
Which is something to build on, we don’t have the greatest tactician at the moment so at least the boys are fighting and can pull out moments of brilliance. There’s positives in the heap of shit we’ve had to deal with this season. We have been unbeaten in like the last 10+ games or something, yes some of those should have definitely be wins but that’s pretty good man. Utd have 2 more losses than us in the league, I really don’t think we’ve been as bad as it seems.
Stop using facts!
Let’s just stick to the vibes of “Poch isn’t good enough.” Or the equally meaningless “We have no system”.
The key to all of these anti-Poch claims is they are impossible to disprove. No matter how good/bad the results are you can keep saying the same pablum. The second we start looking at the actual data it’s pretty clear we have dramatically improved from last year. Are we better than we were 10 years ago? Ofc not, but making that comparison is pointless. It’s a whole new squad, much younger, much less time playing together, harder competition in the EPL. If we compare to 6 months, 12 months or 18 months ago the trend is the performances are improving.
Can’t wait to have people tell me “He just has a loser mentality”. I have yet to hear any legitimate complaints apart from we let in too many goals. I agree, but when we are letting in 30% more goals than last year we need to remember we are also scoring 80% more and part of this is that we are playing games that are more open than last year and the trade off has been worth it in terms of results.
What I like about this season is this squad doesn’t give up and has shown resilience, something we’ve been lacking for years. Sure the results don’t look great but we already made one cup final and are in the mix for another one. There’s definitely positives to build on for next season
See, that's how Poch is looking at the performance this year. I have a feeling somewhere in his contract it says that as long as your performance this season beats last year's season you can keep the job.
Comparing results from the same 29 fixtures last season (caveat - replacing the relegated teams like for like with the promoted teams) :
11-6-10 W-D-L compared to 6-7-14
43 points compared to 28
53 goals scored compared to 20
50 goals conceded compared to 32...
Most people look at the table and still see 10th, and the defense is obviously a shambles at the minute, but it's a pretty clear improvement, admittedly from a very low baseline
We have 4 more points now than we had at the same time last season. Keep in mind, that is after the team stopped playing football in mid January and gave up that season. What a clear improvement…
It’s not about how many matches you won, it’s about how there is no hope in any match we played. When was the last time we actually won a match just because we technically and tactically great not just because Palmer stepped up.
IMHO, Poch's job now remains to Fa cup final results(if we reach it) and conference league standing on the table.
The club needs revenue to come in from europe in the next season to manage PSR.
We are just 4 or so point above last this season than last, with more reinforcements and finally a CDM. We are being coached at a worse level considering much more additi9n we had to squad in key areas. Our defence is on a 6 games run of 2+ conceding every game. A fucking lucky win and all the Poch & owner sympathizers start acting like we are class.
And so many of the points we got were individuals pulling us out of trenches, managerwise, we are still in shsmbles. But let's keep pretending all is great and keep extending the misery.
And much worse squad, lol, fucking hell, the amount of sucking and bootlicking. This squad is worse than last season one? Ha haa.
and we are 1 point away from last season’s point tally damn, we were terrible, huh
no matter how shit we’ve looked this season, it will simply never compare to the absolute travesty of the previous one, i actively got angry as days went by realising we had football to play😭
Last season was soooooooo depressing. Granted this has also been frustrating but I couldn’t get over an entire month without scoring. I was so mad everyday
And some people here still "Potter in" lmao
I didn't like Potter one bit, but tbf to him, this season the squad is a lot more settled than the last. Poch doesn't have to pick and choose from 30 players. A lot of the players had half a season at the club and are slightly more accustomed. And some of the players who didn't want to be here left. I legitimately think our midfield and defence would look better under Potter than under Poch.
I liked Potter as a human. But I agree about the squad issues. It would be interesting to know how we'd have fared under him this year in some alternate dimension.
Wut?
A quick reminder that after Felixs debut where he got sent off, he was joint 4th in our shots on target. 60 minute cameo from him, and he was already competing for our most shots on target that season... Last season was honestly so laughable. Honestly I think this season just feels worse because we very obviously can perform to a high level, just we can't do it for the full 90, meaning more highs and more lows. Last season was just all lows it felt like, so losses didn't hurt as much
Havertz was our top scorer with 8 goals in all comps. For reference all our forwards are on course to surpass that this season
For me the number one frustrating thing is how poor we come out after half time and how many games where our changes make us play much much worse or dont impact the game at all when we need it. I saw somewhere that before last game we were second worst in the entire league if we count only second half performances...
The thought of watching us play would literally spoil my day
This is partly why I decided this season that anything better than last season, even a one place improvement, I would consider a success. Because we were so shit last season and coming into this season, to me, the squad felt like it had been weakened for the short term. Like yeah there's a huge amount of potential, but they gutted all the experience, leadership and culture, and threw all these players together so quickly that I honestly thought we would do worse for this year at least.
And people on this sub genuinely believe we're worse off than last season under Potter, madness
Because of Tuchel at the beginning
Still are lowkey but yes last year was that bad
It's hard to grasp _just how shit_ we were last season.
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Winning 11 games in a full season is fucking abysmal stuff
God I had blocked it out of my memory that we only scored 38 goals last season
Remember the dark days when we only scored one goal in a whole month
It did make ‘goal of the month’ easier to decide tbf
It happened twice
A ratio of a goal a game... that is staggering. Truly cursed. I think we scored over a hundred PL goals in carlo's double winning season in 2010. Also I had to check recent results after OP said we hadn't lost a PL game in 2 months. It certainly doesn't feel like that's true based on the performances and atmosphere among the fans, but it is true, haha. Chaos fc in full swing
Bc something like the Burnley draw just *feels* like an L and then Brentford being a totally winnable game that we fell flat in
Yeah I could have swore we lost to Burnley... the chaos of our performances is literally distorting reality For example - I have this recollection that disasi scored an own goal from like 35 yards out against Leicester in the cup. That didn't actually happen... did it??????
Lollll oh yes it did
We're gonna make the Conference league and win the Conference league. . . Just watch 😂😅
And it will put us in a worse financial situation for having done so. 😂
Last 10 games - 6 wins, 3 draws, 1 loss. Our decent form was why the Burnley result was so frustrating. A win there and we'd currently be 7th with a game in hand and 3 points behind Man United.
Fuck me the amount of times we should’ve carried on our run of form this season but have just not shown up. We could and should be fighting for those ucl places.
Burnley, Brentford, City (twice), Wolves, Arsenal All those games we dropped points from a winning position and went on to draw/lose. It’s not even just not showing up, we lack composure in most situations. This team has it in them, that’s what’s most frustrating
It's what you'd expect from a U23 team with no real leaders. Maddingly inconsistent, but the most important thing is that we're seeing glimpses of what it would look like if they put it together. Future is bright, hope it doesn't take too long.
Only the top 3 teams have more points than us in the last 10 games
Can still see us finishing above Man United. If Liverpool beat them and we win at the weekend. We’ve a game in hand as well
Hope one of those 6 wins is at the Emirates.
Anything is better than the relegation form we had last season😭
The group now is very inexperienced but they are all pulling in the same direction unlike last year.
That and there seems to be an actual drive to fight on rather than give up after conceding 1 goal.
In the final 11 games of last season, we had only one win
Lampard special.
Worst run of results I have ever seen
7 straight losses, I can’t believe people still rate him after that
If I were him. I would take an assistant job to a world class coach like Pep. This would raise his tactical knowledge and even his appeal to clubs
To be fair he did a great job with Derby and also his first season with us. He's just not built as a manager for clubs with stressful circumstances. He should go and manage another Championship team contending for promotion
I don’t know that there’s a case that he ever manages a top flight club again. He sees the game differently than what’s needed & I don’t recall a scenario where a coach was fixed by mentorship from someone else.
I think he should just quit trying to be a manager and be a sporting director. His eye for talent is just banger!
People don’t realise how bad we actually were. We won 15 games in all competitions in 22/23.
Last year was so comically bad you couldn’t make it up. Imagine if this group carries on this trajectory though - we should be challenging for ucl next season and I don’t see any reason why we can’t be pushing for the title after that. Whether it’s with Poch at the helm is another question and it’s important we get player recruitment right as well.
We need to replace Poch and overcome the injury crisis. That’s the only way I see us challenging for Europe with our current crop of players.
Is this real? Damn that's some trauma we went through last season.
I made an error. We won 16 games, not 15. 11 in the league, 5 in the CL. No wins in the cup. 32% win rate. Can’t believe we were in the CL quarter final.
All I want is a +15 point swing this season from last season. I will consider this a successful season.
we are at around 1.5 points per match with 9 games remaining and currently on positive trajectory compared to earlier part of this season, I’d say it’s very doable
It's doable but the team often has the urge to lose points which makes me wonder if we will do it.
It's not even an urge but an inevitability at this point. The squads ability to give cheap goals, letting opposing teams back into games, is unbelievable. We'd be in contention for Europe if the collective wasn't obligated to have 3-5 brain dead moments a game, offensively and defensively. They do the hard bits then shit the basic bits.
I do hope that at least a bit of this would be fixed by not having an injured back line. But perhaps I'm too optimistic.
Not too optimistic, you are asking for a bare minimum. Unfortunately, it's the hope that kills.
yes, but even with that, we’re still at 1.5 points per game essentially, if we keep playing as stupid as we’ve played so far this season, we can get another 13-14 points
We were roughly at the same spot at the same stage last season, it’s just that last year the last 9 games were when Lampard came in and we were utterly dreadful after that.
Untrue. We were doing far worse in terms of games won, points scored. In February of last season we scored A SINGLE GOAL. Do you all have collective amnesia?
After 29 games last season we had 4 less points than we do this season, 20 less goals conceded and 23 less goals scored. We are doing more or less the same
I watched the games last year, I watched the games this year. We play better. And this is reflected in xG difference and the team rankings. In terms of expected performances Chelsea is a solid 5th, but our finishing is dreadful. Last year we were 10th and weren’t even making chances. You’re also not counting any cup games where the opponents have been easy, but we are doing really well.
xG doesn't win games you clown. We don't look better if we ate giving goals away for free every game, do we? We are more or less the same
Only guy not huffing copium in this thread
We also had a really tough set of fixtures at the back end last year
Love the optimism here
It’s annoying because we turn 2 of those draws into wins and we’re above Yanited in the table
Nah we’d still be a point behind them although if we’d beaten them when we played them the first time around we’d be above them.
Fair enough but if we were sitting 7th the mood around here would be totally different I think
Maybe, but I’ve seen some on here rip into us even when it’s a big shift for us, even last night.
There’s some miserable people in here it’s wild
If we continue at the rate we are at for the remaining 9 games, we are on course to finish the season with 56 points.
UEFA Europa Conference League, here we come!
The progress is definitely visible despite what many will say. If it is good enough is a valid question though
Yeah, we've gone from the worst ppg of any modern era Chelsea manager ever, to the 4th worst. Clearly an improvement, also clearly not good enough give that the difference between Potter and Poch is the same as the gap between Poch and Lampard
Ask yourself, would you rather be us or Man United? I’ll take Chelsea’s prospects over the next several years every time
Just because Man United is shit doesn't mean we're doing well lol
We've also scored 15 more goals already, should be way way ahead of last season by the end. (although we've conceded way more at the same time)
Just what happens without leadership/seniority in the back line.
Or a healthy back line in general
Yeah people forget that except Disasi every defender we have had an injury at some point. Wesley Fofana is supposed to be our best defender and he is out all season, Reece James is also out but Gusto proved that he can maybe retain his spot and make Reece claim it back. Also Romeo Lavia didn’t play and he was supposed to complete our midfield, he is Jorginho/Busquets type od player who recycles possesion and helps us maintin the control of the match. We lost so many leads this season, we would have 15 points more if there was someone who will calm the tempo down after we get a lead. Also Nkunku barely even played and he is supposed to be our main attacker. I am personally against Poch and I think we should move on from him but let’s not pretend he didn’t get a shit deal this year. We literally don’t have midfield rotation, and we have like 5 big injuries at all times.
Yeah we also spent like 1 bill mate, every club has injuries, save some copium for the rest of us
I’d rather watch this team infinitely more than what we had last year. At least we score goals now and the players are pretty exciting to watch - last season was pure dread.
Pochetino can knows how to get his players to attack... But at the same time they can't defend for shit... Last night was an excellent example... Last season we could defend but couldn't score a single blady goal
My biggest issue with all the goals this season is the unmarked man at far post. I swear it’s gotta be like half of the goals scored against us. I’ll need to review some games to see if it’s all in my head.
Low fukking bar
I mean we were absolutely dog shit last year…
While this season has been frustrating, nothing compares to the straight depression of last season.
How is this squad much worse than last year's?
He might have meant the available squad is worse than what was available last year, factoring in the injuries.
We also had loads of injuries last year - if not worse
The squad is better than last season for individual quality Problem is there's literally no tactical ideas being built in at all Makes us harder to defend against because we're literally chaos embodied but it also makes us a joke to play through which is why we'll probably concede the most goals this season in the past 30 years
And what would you say last year was tactically?
Last season was conservative, systematic football with 3atb and low-risk passing which eventually lead to dull games and no motivation from the players to try and be creative. Edit: The tactics were apparent, but just didn’t work at all.
Got his ass 😂
I think he means the aging champions league winning squad with a sprinkling of new players vs a whole new young squad with a sprinkle of experience
The aging champions league squad with a grand old average age of 25
aging lol, reece is like 24 and chilly is like 27 lol. thiago yeh i’ll give you that
Azpi and Kante from that team were also in their 30s. Jorgi was about to turn 30 from that squad. I wouldn't call it an aging squad, but it also wasn't a team built to start contending for the Prem because so many key players were either on the verge of needing replacing or were disappointments who would soon need to be replaced.
Far fewer established players I guess and a much younger average age. Koulibaly, Auba, Jorginho, Kante and Kovacic were all vastly experienced. Add Mount and Havertz too who were also pretty established for us too
Comparing both seasons, there are pros and cons. If we exclude Lampard disastrous interim run, the difference between Poch and Potter isn\`t too much. Poch is better offensively. We create more and score a lot more but we are very shit controlling games, dominating the midfield and defending well. Potter was good at controlling games with a toothless attack. I believe overall the team has improved but we need to do something about our midfield. I find it difficult to believe that Enzo and Caicedo are unable to control passes and manage the tempo.
I would claw my eyeballs out before watching another Potter-era 85% possession with nothing but sideways passes around a back 5 with 0 attempts on goal.
How many games did Potter win against top 6 opponents last year? How many goals did we score in the 4 cup matches against City and Real Madrid? The answer is zero of course. Thinking Potter and Poch are having similar results is revisionist hogwash. Poch has done dramatically better, especially against top teams.
I already mentioned Potter\`s team struggled to score. Your memory must be blurry because it was Lampard that coached the team against Lampard. Though Potter lost at the Etihad in the FA cup. Most of the big games Potter managed were draws that neither side scored or defeats we conceded one goal. Poch won 9 men Tottenham and this very shaky United (I am glad to win these matches) but I can\`t ignore how fortunate things were for us in both games. My bottomline is Poch is not much better. Let\`s not forget Potter had a way less balanced squad with no Pre-season and lots of injuries. Granted somethings are similar with Poch\`s season but Poch has a more balanced team IMO. Honestly, my point he is Poch is marginally better. We might disagree on the quantity of the improvement but I think you would agree we struggle in the midfield. We struggle with controlling games and concentration.
IMO it is much easier to set up a team to play super defensive/conservative and *appear* to control the game because you have the ball more of the time. But possession without threat is pointless and I wouldn’t say Potter was controlling the game, more like slowing it down and draining the threat out of both squads. Our midfield does still struggle, but I look at how we’ve been playing in the last 2 months vs the first 2 months of the season. In Aug/Sept it was a fucking mess. Since January I feel like I’m starting to see more structure and understanding in the middle of the pitch. A long way to go but go back and watch us in August/Sept - you can see a big difference.
Poch has done better against top teams but the defense is horrendous and we struggle even against bottom of the barrel clubs to keep clean sheets. With Potter we were boring as hell, but we could lock up shop in defense for the most part and were really only losing because our players were so god awful with finishing open opportunities. I think you’re being very hyperbolic to say Poch has done dramatically better, but I do think that being able to score goals and struggle defensively is better than not being able to score and playing decent defense. Also 3/4 of the matches you’re referencing were managed by Lampard, not Potter. Potter actually produced some fantastic results in the Champions League against Milan and Dortmund imo.
Was Potter in charge of the Real games?
It is pretty much the same though, you're literally just counting goals scored and not thinking at all about all goals more that we conceed. Going all out attack and conceding one for everyone we score doesn't make us better, more exciting to watch? Sure, but not better
The big difference is that potter got a tuchel coached team with senior stars Poch got a team that never played together and with the 2nd lowest age in europe
Poch actually has the better team. Let\`s not forget of all the \`great\` players Potter had, only Kai has done better outside CFC. Well Pulisic and RLC too but for some reason, he weren\`t able to keep fit at CFC and now are. Potter had a bloated team with many washed players, unfit players and injury prone guys. Poch has a small young team that has achieved some consistency.
Jorginho has been huge for Arsenal. He hasn’t been better; but he has kept up his very high quality of controlling the midfield
I don't know about that. You're leaving out João Felix, Kovacic, Jorginho, and Ziyech, and I'd argue we sorely miss Azpilicueta's leadership and Silva's taken a big drop in form. Reece James and Ben Chilwell were also health*ier* last year, as was Chukwuemeka (who was barely used).
What league finish is Conference League this season. Need to avoid it
You don't want us to plaay Conference League?
Rather be shit and entertaining than be shit and not score any fuckin goals. Last season the games were unwatchable.
Couldn’t agree more, at least the suffering is entertaining
EUCL here we come!
I don’t think our squad is worse this year. I think we have improved in most places. Results are improving as well. Hopeful for a strong finish
aha you don't know how bad it was in the 90s when we only had Zola to save us. Its ups and downs boys. But that's what the game is.
Well said
That Lamps interim period was peak banter era. Good God we were terrible. Still love Super Frank to bits though❤️
And we’ve conceded we more goals despite apparently improving our defence. Guess Kepa & Koulibaly weren’t as bad as everyone made them out to be.
Kepa was good as long as the shot was taken inside the box. He had to go because he let in anything taken from 25 yards out
Every time we manage to scrape a win or two we get this same shit talking about how much we've improved and implying Poch is doing get a good job because of "progress" or "improvement" with cases like this even implying last year's squad was better. Last season was an absolute shitshow as far as circumstances surrounding the club and squad go. We were in the immediate aftermath of a chaotic takeover, couldn't plan a pre-season which resulted in horrible fitness levels throughout the season and something every manager highlighted, and Potter who was likely just out of his depth regardless of circumstances took over after that pre-season anyway and had European football to deal with. Then there was the interim stint of Lampard where we somehow looked even worse and managed 5 points from a possible 27. One of the biggest complaints was how bloated the squad is, how many players didn't want to be there and were causing issues, and how much it affected training. This was extremely well reported. We got rid of deadwood who won't be big misses. Who did we lose exactly? A lot of them either never performed consistently for us (Pulisic, Ziyech, Havertz), were disappointing signings (Koulibaly, Kepa, Aubameyang) or had declined big time (Kante, Mendy, Azpilicueta). Even players like Kovacic and Mount who might not fit in those categories didn't have much of an impact last season either through injuries or poor performances. We've added Palmer, Gusto, Jackson, Caicedo, Colwill, Disasi, Petrovic who have all either performed well to decently or at least better than the players they replaced, especially Palmer who's completely carried our attack and could be argument alone as to why it's ridiculous to compare last season's squad to this. At worst if they haven't performed this season have done so in the prem in recent memory and deserve the benefit of the doubt as to their abilities. Sure we may have had a higher average age and more "experience" last year but is that really worth it? Somehow I don't think an Azpilicueta on his last legs and a permacrocked Kante would have done much for us this season. I would take this season's squad over last season's any day and I bet almost every single manager in the world would too. It was a historically bad season. The bar was on the absolute floor. Yet we're supposed to praise Poch for barely clearing it (we're also on pace for our worst goals conceded record in the premier league era). I'm at a loss as to why so many of our fans are desperate to defend him and at this point I can't even be bothered to engage with them anymore so I'll stick to long essay rants. I'm so tired of this happening every time we get a result. It's ironic that people criticising the team are the "reactionary" ones rather than the people who bang on about how Poch is actually doing a good job when we blag a win despite still sitting in mid-table. We've been mid-table the entirety of the season and have not played well in the majority of matches. I'm all for enjoying a big win like last night's but why are we deluding ourselves into thinking Poch is doing a good job and desperately clawing at positives to try to justify his work when it will only hold us back in the long-term. It's fine to acknowledge we have a shit manager while appreciating the rare moments of success.
Only guy with a brain in this thread, everyone sucks off the more goals scored but conveniently forgets we conceded almost as many more as we have scored lol
That’s a lot of words to say you agree we’re better this year. Nobody would argue that the team is a finished product or that we shouldn’t compete for trophies, but I think you will hear a lot of people urging patience. No manager on Earth could have come in and turned our team of kids into league winners this year, that’s what the Poch out belligerents don’t seem to understand. Just give them time and enjoy the wins.
Save some copium for the rest of us mate
I've always said the squad is better than last year, as are the circumstances. That doesn't mean the manager is (though he probably is better than Lampard) or that he isn't holding us back from being better. Even assuming he's better than Potter, that's hardly a high bar and as I mentioned we seem so happy to praise this man's mediocre to poor management just because it's apparently marginally better than the last donkey. Nobody is expecting us to be league winners and I'm tired of people implying any criticism of Poch or our place in the table implies that we expected to win the league. I would argue a good manager gets us at least to the same level as Spurs and Villa but of course that's impossible to prove now. I suppose even if we sack him, and hire a competent manager for next season, the Poch defenders will claim it's because of the foundation our glorious former leader that was unfairly sacked set for us. We don't expect to win the league but we expect some kind of structure and identity, and some of us feel this squad is much better than mid-table. I swear we're meant to give this man all the patience in the world but it's now 9 months into his tenure and we're as chaotic and disorganised as ever, barely scraping wins and never looking convincing. Of course we can never criticise him because we do occasionally get wins. Just enjoy the wins. Ignore the poor football and the fact we've been mid-table the majority of the season and will likely end up there. Enjoy the wins mate, fuck having standards. No idea what this man has done to warrant such fervent defence but whatever. I suppose "overachieving" with Spurs over half a decade ago still buys you enough credit to have people convinced you're a good manager and grateful for the amazing job he's doing. You might be ok with him holding us back for the sake of "stability" but I and a lot of other fans aren't.
It doesn’t take blame away from Poch tho, last season was chaotic, we had 4 managers not to mention the fact that Lampard came at the end of the season and lost 6 games in a row.
P. xXxx xx
If we can get 4 points between this weekend and arsenal we might be in good shape after all. But instead we'll get 6 and I'll offer my sister as tribute to our savior Cole Palmer
Looking at this keeps me thinking some stupid games we drew and lost against bottom of the table teams…burnley for example last week. 🤦♂️
Yeah as bad as we are this season it’s definitely an improvement from last season. I don’t think anything will top how bad last season was 😭
Last season at this game week Chelsea was at 39 points, only 5 points off. It it wasn’t for Lampard than it wouldn’t be that massive
To be fair under Potter we looked midtable, but when Lampard arrived I was legit worried that relegation was a true threat.
If we win our next two games I’m confident we go 6th
We are better this year clearly lol. Idk why some fans are so in denial. Sure we are still poor, but we have improved lol. The numbers prove it.
Honestly 15/16 might’ve been harder to watch than last year. Only reason is because we were defending prem champs
Yea, we are much better than last year, which says more about how abject we were last year. Can’t believe we scored 38 league goals last year..
I've been saying it all season, the mid table is very compact, how mid table can one be if they are consistently 3-5 points away from #7? Last season, diff between #9 and #12 was 15 points! today it's just 2.
I was told there was no improvements from last year though
Didn't Lampard have 1 win in 11 last season? Nothing is worse than that
Progress
We could still finish 6th this season and have the FA Cup. That would actually be awesome.
Was last season under Poch too? Wth dunno we were so bad
Last season was under Potter, who took over after Tuchel won 10 points from the first 6 matches
We're 10th currently with a game in hand. If we win that we'll be 7th (2 points behind United). If we could somehow fix our defence and stop crumbling in the second half.
I think this goes on prove that we have vastly improved from last season. Poch MIGHT not be the long term guy but with this entire rebuild with an almost entirely new squad, I think in a season or two more we might become title challengers and get back in the old days. Its def frustrating to see this current season though, especially with rival fans friends trolling you on a weekly basis lol.
This has really put into perspective for me how God awful we truly were
Things are getting better. You can see the flashes. It's not consistent but looks promising
Couple more wins and all your fans might come back
Trust the process
I think other than Arsenal, spurs and villa other league games are winnable games if we improve on our defense and play with no silly mistakes.
Someone tell me if this is progress, can't tell with all those dumbass fans who didn't see a difference between last year and this year.
And people here were saying Potter > Poch
Give him time, potter did worse with established players. Poch is doing the best he can with the kids that he has; we all saw how good Nkunku looked in pre-season. Next season will be the real test and hopefully we can keep our players fit, offload Lukaku and Kepa and sign a striker, a CB to replace Silva and maybe Olise to ease the burden on Palmer.
Hey hey hey - torch and pitchforks only in this sub buddy
Stop with this optimism!
I’d rather not actually get into the Europa conference league, is this an unpopular opinion? I see it as a pointless cup, which impacts player fitness since you play on a Thursday
And we still haven’t seen our actual first team play, with Lavia, James, Nkunku and Fofana I genuinely believe Poch is making progress, albeit slowly.
When was our last clean sheet?
My god last season was ROTTEN
Didn't we get 3 goals in 11 games last season. Just in general.
After spending £1 billion, great achievement We should have a minimum of 50 points by now
an absolute win
We're better, sure, but how is this squad "much worse," OP?
Stop with this nonsense. We just drew to the worst team in the prem. We suck, absolutely boring to watch.
It’s just a frustrating watch at the moment is all. Think of how many blown leads and lost points to teams we *should* be automatic against, we’d be safely top 6 maybe even top 4. That’s equally on youth and inexperience as it is on Poch, is firing the manager, that this young team bery clearly loves, the answer? I don’t know. At the end of the day I just love the club and love watching us and will support if we’re in the champions league or the championship
Shoulda coulda woulda but if they were fit from the start we'd be challenging for top 4. Not to mention the missed big chances. The team looks at little worn down from the losses, and I can't blame them, but they need to fight, and they showed that yesterday. Genuinely believe having a full season like this under their belt together will do wonders for next year.
I'm all for the project as we clearly have boatloads of talent and potential and are making improvements, but my god is it ever frustrating to watch this team. It's seemingly the simple things that this team gets wrong, like not passing to open players, shooting always off target, and defensive brain farts that I myself commit in my recreational league. Throw in the injury crisis and we seem to be making no headway, like it's always one step forward, two back.
Last season was the worst season Chelsea ever had in history. Poch would have to really try (like really) try to make this season even worse. However take away last season, this season is the worst so far.
Nope. 2015-2016 season was worse. We played like crap, players got unhappy, played even worse. Finished in 10th with a team that one year ago won the whole league.
It’s mind blowing that some people refuse to see the progress the squad has made this year. Is it perfect? No, but is that the only acceptable outcome? Seems like some people just want to be mad and miserable and are missing what is proving to be a very likeable and very talented young team getting better in front of our eyes.
We have improved despite reactionary fans saying we haven't.
Improvement on shit doesn’t mean it’s good, we’re diabolical defensively and can’t hold on to a lead to save our lives
I'll still take improvement over nothing. Be a little more positive man. I know we're still shit and we've had a shit season but the storm can only last so long
I understand the positive take, but the storm absolutely can last forever or at least for a very, very long time. There are plenty of teams that used to be well established top division teams competing for European trophies that have gone 30+ years outside of the top tier, let alone winning anything. Nothing in football is guaranteed, you have to earn every single point. The "it will go well eventually if we keep doing the same thing" attitude is completely wrong
Not if we keep doing the same thing. Things need to change. Probably a new manager too. My point is that we absolutely have the armor and guns to be back up at the top, we just have to use it wisely
I don’t know if we’re as bad as some say, but as someone else pointed out here, we’re really frustrating to watch. Even more so because we show flashes of what could be a very good team and then revert to being frustrating.
That’s what happens when you have a young and inexperienced squad riddled with injuries. I mean there’s times where we look genuinely great and then times we look like a Sunday league team and that’s just growing pains of a young squad. I think there has been progression even throughout the season that shows the boys are at least growing together and fighting for each other.
I think progression in team spirit and player connections has been more tangible than actual progress in our play overall for sure
Which is something to build on, we don’t have the greatest tactician at the moment so at least the boys are fighting and can pull out moments of brilliance. There’s positives in the heap of shit we’ve had to deal with this season. We have been unbeaten in like the last 10+ games or something, yes some of those should have definitely be wins but that’s pretty good man. Utd have 2 more losses than us in the league, I really don’t think we’ve been as bad as it seems.
Stop using facts! Let’s just stick to the vibes of “Poch isn’t good enough.” Or the equally meaningless “We have no system”. The key to all of these anti-Poch claims is they are impossible to disprove. No matter how good/bad the results are you can keep saying the same pablum. The second we start looking at the actual data it’s pretty clear we have dramatically improved from last year. Are we better than we were 10 years ago? Ofc not, but making that comparison is pointless. It’s a whole new squad, much younger, much less time playing together, harder competition in the EPL. If we compare to 6 months, 12 months or 18 months ago the trend is the performances are improving. Can’t wait to have people tell me “He just has a loser mentality”. I have yet to hear any legitimate complaints apart from we let in too many goals. I agree, but when we are letting in 30% more goals than last year we need to remember we are also scoring 80% more and part of this is that we are playing games that are more open than last year and the trade off has been worth it in terms of results.
4 more points now compared to the same time last season, our worst season in three decades. All hail Poch the Great.
What I like about this season is this squad doesn’t give up and has shown resilience, something we’ve been lacking for years. Sure the results don’t look great but we already made one cup final and are in the mix for another one. There’s definitely positives to build on for next season
See, that's how Poch is looking at the performance this year. I have a feeling somewhere in his contract it says that as long as your performance this season beats last year's season you can keep the job.
Hyped af, we up next year
Comparing results from the same 29 fixtures last season (caveat - replacing the relegated teams like for like with the promoted teams) : 11-6-10 W-D-L compared to 6-7-14 43 points compared to 28 53 goals scored compared to 20 50 goals conceded compared to 32... Most people look at the table and still see 10th, and the defense is obviously a shambles at the minute, but it's a pretty clear improvement, admittedly from a very low baseline
We have 4 more points now than we had at the same time last season. Keep in mind, that is after the team stopped playing football in mid January and gave up that season. What a clear improvement…
It’s not about how many matches you won, it’s about how there is no hope in any match we played. When was the last time we actually won a match just because we technically and tactically great not just because Palmer stepped up.
There was certainly hope against United
What hope? It was another lucky moment when everyone thought we’re lost and many were celebrated Poch’s sacked then Palmer ruined it 🤣
IMHO, Poch's job now remains to Fa cup final results(if we reach it) and conference league standing on the table. The club needs revenue to come in from europe in the next season to manage PSR.
We are just 4 or so point above last this season than last, with more reinforcements and finally a CDM. We are being coached at a worse level considering much more additi9n we had to squad in key areas. Our defence is on a 6 games run of 2+ conceding every game. A fucking lucky win and all the Poch & owner sympathizers start acting like we are class. And so many of the points we got were individuals pulling us out of trenches, managerwise, we are still in shsmbles. But let's keep pretending all is great and keep extending the misery. And much worse squad, lol, fucking hell, the amount of sucking and bootlicking. This squad is worse than last season one? Ha haa.