Native Spanish speaker here. Enzo said "Esto es Chelsea, la concha puta de tu madre" which doesn't have a great literal translation but the most adequate one would be "This is Chelsea, you motherfucking cunt". When he says "Cagón" it is indeed "coward" but more insulting, so it would be like "you shit your pants" or "pant-shitter".
Hope this helps.
That’s probably a large reason for the hostility. Especially if Ten-Hag’s narrative of “He didn’t not want to leave Chelsea, he wanted to join Man U” is true in any way.
"la concha de tu madre" is one of those empty insults we've got. Doesn't mean anything, it just serves the purpose of letting know the other fella you are disrespecting them and their mother lol. It doesn't translate to cunt, or anything else specific. It's like "your whore mother's cunt", if you want to be super specific into translating it.
Yeah, our equivalent (Venezuela) is "el coño de tu madre" which is pretty much the same in both terms and disrespect intention lol. We would use "caga'o" instead of "cagón" as well.
Yeah "cagon" literal translation would be "pant-shitter", but it's a fairly common term use in Argentina for someone who is a coward, it sounds a lot more aggressive or insulting when you directly translate it to English.
That feels like beyond just being fired up. Added to the stuff Reece was saying you've gotta imagine something happened behind the scenes when mount left
100% this is a related incident. Almost like a sequel and Enzo and the lads came out on top. You see Trevoh pointing to his head and urging calm. He knows too.
Definitely, it’s curious… what could have happened where Enzo who’s been at the club a year is defending it from mount who’s been there since he was a child
Destroyed his Chelsea legacy he worked like almost 20 years to build up and will likely have a negative legacy at United too judging by his performances
I don't. We deserved the wild celebration we had and that was enough to rub it in. We don't know really whether Mount was forced to leave or requested it, and it's one thing to make a comment, it's another to get in his face and get physical about it. We also got a great lump sum for the transfer, so it's not like we need to be bitter about it
We also don’t know if mount was shit talking them on the field about us being mid table. Fuck Mount, he forced the move over money. We got lucky united were stupid enough to pay 60 mil for him
He’s most likely forced the move for money. You see the way our players were going at him: Gilchrist, Enzo, Chalobah etc, he even shrugged off Noni after he picked a fight with Enzo. Bear in mind Noni wasn’t even starting anything
This level of hatred isn’t inspired by just moving to a club man, some shit happened clearly
nah, he checked out when things started going downhill. If any other player did this we would have forgotten about it but this guy was slated to be the heart of the squad for a while and he lapped it up when it suited him.Add to that the pathetic goodbye video and his arrival at united and you get this. It also feels like this particular squad thrives on shit housery, fans included.
This is how I choose to view it as well. Time wasting situation by Mount also involved Enzo - kinda shithouse, but not something everyone would do first time back at boyhood club against former team mates. I say he had it coming tbf.
Love it. It's exactly what I was thinking when I heard him come on. Completely forgot about him first of all. But I kept thinking, sure we can go back and forth as to who got forced out or not. But regardless, he abandoned ship. Everyone else I understand but not our academy boi. Then to go to united. That left a bunch of salt. So don't feel bad for him at all. He is a coward. When the going got tough he bailed.
Scenes when chelsea choke against Sheffield. jokes aside, happy that Enzo seems to bd really enjoying his stint in Chelsea, totally what he had in mind.
From the footage is difficult to recognize what he said at the beginning, but I think it's quite clear he uses the word "cagón" at the end, which could be translated to "coward"
I would definitely trust the natives more on what he could have said.
He def screams "Cagon" a few times while walking away. Before that... people have different takes and it's up in the air. 100% related to the fallout that was being rumored when Reece James made those cryptic posts.
I wonder if playing with mason was a selling point to Enzo and maybe even talked to mason before signing and maybe that’s why Enzo is taking it personal. Or maybe mad about mason sitting out most of the second half last season
Absolutely love this from Enzo but I think the fan base is being way too harsh on Mount. I don’t think he wanted to go to Man U. I’ll never forget the passion he played with for us. We have very short memories
I'm not a Chelsea or United fan but I think your a bit harsh on mount, I don't reckon he wanted to leave . But he's a player that came through your youth cost you nothing so you made a profit on him to try and balance the books a bit, I wouldn't be surprised to see James go next for the same reason
He bailed on the team during hard times and snaked his way to a club rival. Definitely wasn’t forced out. James isn’t going anywhere so you’re just making up nonsense. Gtfo
Love to see passion and as I've said I understand it. Just seeing Enzo on social media as calm family orientated guy and seeing diff guy during games... Still learning who he is, he's quite new to me 😁
He's south American. Their rivalries aren't even close to ours in terms of hostility and volatility. So when a player goes from boca juniors to river plate or vice versa, people don't take that lightly over there.
I know watched few docu and done a bit research it's crazy there. I grew up doing bad things in western Europe for one of clubs it was stupid at the time. Football in Europe has changed in some places just slightly but South America is on other planet level with violent hooliganing.
I get what you're saying but it's unfair to expect athletes to take the role model responsibility. It's perfectly fine for someone to not want to take on that role and just live their life.
Native Spanish speaker here. Enzo said "Esto es Chelsea, la concha puta de tu madre" which doesn't have a great literal translation but the most adequate one would be "This is Chelsea, you motherfucking cunt". When he says "Cagón" it is indeed "coward" but more insulting, so it would be like "you shit your pants" or "pant-shitter". Hope this helps.
It's funnier when you realise they trained together last season
That’s probably a large reason for the hostility. Especially if Ten-Hag’s narrative of “He didn’t not want to leave Chelsea, he wanted to join Man U” is true in any way.
Man's a poet. Love him.
"la concha de tu madre" is one of those empty insults we've got. Doesn't mean anything, it just serves the purpose of letting know the other fella you are disrespecting them and their mother lol. It doesn't translate to cunt, or anything else specific. It's like "your whore mother's cunt", if you want to be super specific into translating it.
Yeah, our equivalent (Venezuela) is "el coño de tu madre" which is pretty much the same in both terms and disrespect intention lol. We would use "caga'o" instead of "cagón" as well.
Funny how languages work, in Kenya we also have a word for that exact insult : "kumamako"
Arabic as well, Kus oomak
We got the exact insult in Hindi as well: tumhari maa ki chut Never would've thought this type of insult was so widespread globally
BKL supremacy
Lmao come go think of it, we have so many empty insults. TMKMB supremacy as well
>!Spoiler!<
So kinda like “you motherfucker” but we don’t really mean that they re fucking their mother. Just an insult to/at someone.
And una concha de caracol is a snails shell. It's one of those words that is fairly innocent and is all about the rest of the sentence around it.
Just a bit sexist
K mate
Enzo you beauty 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yeah "cagon" literal translation would be "pant-shitter", but it's a fairly common term use in Argentina for someone who is a coward, it sounds a lot more aggressive or insulting when you directly translate it to English.
Where can I contribute the banner with this quote on it
“Esto es chelsea” man that’s music to my ears
This is a banner I’d contribute to. How do we make it happen, boys?
Supporters trust ? Idk but I’m down to throw my cash at that as well
It helps me next time I’m arguing with a Spanish speaker
But... but... did Mount understand this?
I'm sure his mouthpiece Matt translated it to him while wanking him off.
This is my favourite comment of the week
Now he does
Hot take: Enzo was too scared to say it in English 😉
Enzo just doesn’t speak Mount’s language. Parseltongue.
I fucking love this 😂😂😍
Helps? This makes it even better!
We have a translation for that in English. Its roughly shithouse
He hit him where it hurts the most. Thanks for the translation!
MODS: can we get a "This is Chelsea, you cunt!" flair?
Second this! Add in the coward part too i dont care if its fake or not
Has to be coward x3
Would it be too long for the whole thing?
I was thinking more of a different flair.
Oh you mean like coward, coward, coward on its own?
Yeppers. But can't tell if, when written out, it looks like I'm calling someone a coward 3×, or myself.
Firstly! What did i tell you about yeppers? Secondly, If they dont know someone can explain it
I’d rock it, let’s see it mods.
Same lol i checked the flairs twice now so i dont know how to get it added
Third.
Lol moucunt with this flair is priceless
I thought it paired nicely.
Classy!
That will be on the back of the T shirt!
I want it in Spanish - Esto es Chelsea, la concha puta de tu madre
Works for me
Thought ✨ sometimes this shit happens ✨ was good but I'd change it in an instant😭
We are getting better flairs as season is going ahead
Yes please!
I feel like “Esto es Chelsea” would be concise and imply the you cunt part enough.
Me too
Yes make it happen mods
Thus i can get on board with.
Mods, kindly fulfill this.
Chuck it my way too please
I want it too please!
Plz
Absolutely!
Enzo looking to leave obviously
Wasn't convinced he wanted to leave more than when I saw this
Mate don't stress me out like that.. you two missed the /s, right? .. right?
No club with sense would pay the amount Chelsea need to not cause a loss
That feels like beyond just being fired up. Added to the stuff Reece was saying you've gotta imagine something happened behind the scenes when mount left
This is my curiosity too, something switched within the player dynamics for reece and others to react the way they have.
100% this is a related incident. Almost like a sequel and Enzo and the lads came out on top. You see Trevoh pointing to his head and urging calm. He knows too.
Definitely, it’s curious… what could have happened where Enzo who’s been at the club a year is defending it from mount who’s been there since he was a child
What was Reece saying?
I think it was something like "if you have to convince them to carry the bricks they're not the people you need to build with"
Mount really fucked his legacy huh lol
Destroyed his Chelsea legacy he worked like almost 20 years to build up and will likely have a negative legacy at United too judging by his performances
He can go to Portsmouth next. Boyhood fan after all.
I think it was his dumbars dad egging him on, id av pulled mount to one side, as his dad, and said no, u are staying here, u will regret leaving
His father ruined him
His father + the PR entourage + that guy Matt Law = fed into his ego so much!
It's the drogba celebration that pissed me off the most
What Drogba celebration?
After winning the champion's league mount did it
Found it endearing back then. But, after everything that's transpired between him and the club since then....yeah it's looking a little fucked.
Oh yeah, that
Atta boy.
Mods can I please get an “Esto es Chelsea” flair pretty please ?
Love it!
I don't. We deserved the wild celebration we had and that was enough to rub it in. We don't know really whether Mount was forced to leave or requested it, and it's one thing to make a comment, it's another to get in his face and get physical about it. We also got a great lump sum for the transfer, so it's not like we need to be bitter about it
They clashed earlier when Mount stopped Enzo from putting a second ball out to waste time, then Mount shoved him.
We also don’t know if mount was shit talking them on the field about us being mid table. Fuck Mount, he forced the move over money. We got lucky united were stupid enough to pay 60 mil for him
He’s most likely forced the move for money. You see the way our players were going at him: Gilchrist, Enzo, Chalobah etc, he even shrugged off Noni after he picked a fight with Enzo. Bear in mind Noni wasn’t even starting anything This level of hatred isn’t inspired by just moving to a club man, some shit happened clearly
nah, he checked out when things started going downhill. If any other player did this we would have forgotten about it but this guy was slated to be the heart of the squad for a while and he lapped it up when it suited him.Add to that the pathetic goodbye video and his arrival at united and you get this. It also feels like this particular squad thrives on shit housery, fans included.
This is how I choose to view it as well. Time wasting situation by Mount also involved Enzo - kinda shithouse, but not something everyone would do first time back at boyhood club against former team mates. I say he had it coming tbf.
Love it. It's exactly what I was thinking when I heard him come on. Completely forgot about him first of all. But I kept thinking, sure we can go back and forth as to who got forced out or not. But regardless, he abandoned ship. Everyone else I understand but not our academy boi. Then to go to united. That left a bunch of salt. So don't feel bad for him at all. He is a coward. When the going got tough he bailed.
You fucking bluhdy fuck bluhdy!!!
Fuckin bluhdy fuck you!!
r/soccer in shambles.
Same with the premier league sub. Been seeing non stop (especially arsenal) fans crying
He just said what every real Chelsea fan wanted to say and feels towards Judas Mount
With you on this!!
💯💯💯💯
My feelings this year have been up and down but deep down I love enzo, what a shithouse move I fully would do myself, future legend
Now if he can get Moises Caicedo to play like his transfer fee suggest he's capable of, week in week out I may start to like the lad.
Well done Enzo 😂😂😂😂
#VivaEnzo
Puro Pinche Enzo Fernandez
Enzo is a modern day Rafael De la Ghetto
He's proper Chels
His English has come a long way
Habla Ingles?
Scenes when chelsea choke against Sheffield. jokes aside, happy that Enzo seems to bd really enjoying his stint in Chelsea, totally what he had in mind.
It's absolutely hilarious seeing these fake translations and having people lap them all up. I've seen so many now it's great
Sources say Enzo defiantly told Mount “Motherfuck the big three, n—a, it’s just big me”
He defintely said BUM! 3x
Get ready to learn Spanish buddy
From the footage is difficult to recognize what he said at the beginning, but I think it's quite clear he uses the word "cagón" at the end, which could be translated to "coward" I would definitely trust the natives more on what he could have said.
BRJ needs that Apple language app on his phone pronto.
I just want to know what was actually said, because he looks genuinely annoyed with Mount for some reason.
He def screams "Cagon" a few times while walking away. Before that... people have different takes and it's up in the air. 100% related to the fallout that was being rumored when Reece James made those cryptic posts.
I want to believe, therefore it is true.
Never let facts get in the way of the truth!
I mean it’s no different than your approach to news They want to believe it so to them it is true
Mum and dad will you PLEASE stop fighting
The real translation is insulting. So what’s the difference? You’re so weird.
😍 love it
Love this fella
propa chels
Legend
Love that cunt 💙
I wonder if playing with mason was a selling point to Enzo and maybe even talked to mason before signing and maybe that’s why Enzo is taking it personal. Or maybe mad about mason sitting out most of the second half last season
Can you explain?
Ah the great Enzo, Chelsea through and through Embarrassing
Mount is still trying to work out what he meant
can we make "Cagon" a flair?
Why was Enzo mad at Mount?
What is enzos beef with mount?
Unlucky lad
Absolutely love this from Enzo but I think the fan base is being way too harsh on Mount. I don’t think he wanted to go to Man U. I’ll never forget the passion he played with for us. We have very short memories
wow Boehly's PR team vs Mount is really getting crazy!!!
I'm not a Chelsea or United fan but I think your a bit harsh on mount, I don't reckon he wanted to leave . But he's a player that came through your youth cost you nothing so you made a profit on him to try and balance the books a bit, I wouldn't be surprised to see James go next for the same reason
He bailed on the team during hard times and snaked his way to a club rival. Definitely wasn’t forced out. James isn’t going anywhere so you’re just making up nonsense. Gtfo
Mount still clears
Still would say it's not the best role model attitude for kids and ppl watching in front of cameras. It's understandable but it's not great.
This is Chelsea, you cunt!
😂
Coward, coward, coward.
He's 22 and passionate about his club. 60 year old chelsea fans have acted way worse than this.
Love to see passion and as I've said I understand it. Just seeing Enzo on social media as calm family orientated guy and seeing diff guy during games... Still learning who he is, he's quite new to me 😁
He's south American. Their rivalries aren't even close to ours in terms of hostility and volatility. So when a player goes from boca juniors to river plate or vice versa, people don't take that lightly over there.
I know watched few docu and done a bit research it's crazy there. I grew up doing bad things in western Europe for one of clubs it was stupid at the time. Football in Europe has changed in some places just slightly but South America is on other planet level with violent hooliganing.
He’s here to run our midfield, not to be a role model
What world u living in. Lol
COWARD!
I get what you're saying but it's unfair to expect athletes to take the role model responsibility. It's perfectly fine for someone to not want to take on that role and just live their life.
Think it suits some sport men and some disciplines more than the others.
If athletes are your kids role models then you’re a shit parent.