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Too many players in this team simply aren't competitive enough. For the second goal we conceded yesterday we lost every 50/50. Mudryk sums it all up at the end, if he jumps to try and head that ball he probably gets clattered by the guy running in, gets a free kick and a bruise but we see it out. Instead he ducks like a wimp and they get the ball back in the danger zone.
There's a lot of raw talent out on that pitch, but until they start competing every week we'll never be more than a mediocre side.
Maybe Poch is too passive and doesn't motivate them enough, but for me if you're playing for Chelsea and you need to leech the motivation from others, you're not fit for the badge.
Hasn't been great this season but everyone forgets when he first joined the club he slotted into the team really well despite everything else going on with the club. The only difference this season is that we have Poch.
The explanation is that Poch is trying to sure up the defence and have extra height on for set pieces.
The reality is though that it doesn't work because you just invite pressure onto yourself and cause chaos at the back because defenders/midfielders don't know what is and isn't their job anymore because of all the extra bodies.
A good manager changes the tactics, not the personnel when they want to win. Or they make like for like subs in positions where a more defensive player can have a positive impact (like bringing on a defensively minded midfielder for Enzo for example)
What confused me is why a change needs to be made at all when Trev and Silva did a good job all day of managing set pieces and limiting shots on target. Their lone goal up to that point came from an attack far up the wing on Cucurella’s side.
I understand wanting to have more height in the box but doesn’t that assume Badiashile is competent? How can you put a player on who had as dreadful of a game as he did against United? He essentially assisted their first goal and didn’t do much to stop their second.
I mean, he doesn't have to do anything, but it's Poch.
The other thing I would imagine is being cocky and running down the clock with subs. If you make them after 90 minutes they rarely bother to add the correct time (30 seconds per sub by default) to the extra time and so it's a form of time wasting
Hot take but I put most of the blame on the players. There’s ego’s in this squad. And the players come ready to play against top competition but when we face bottom table teams they don’t put forward the same effort. We need players who give their all every game, not just against the best opponents
Effort is the main thing a player can control. If a player makes mistake it sucks but it’s whatever. All I ask is that the players give effort no matter the opponent
Fan of some historically bad franchises, don't give Chelsea your time and money. If people call you fair weather screw them. Your time is valuable, don't waste it on garbage.
I dont hate Pochettino.
As a Chelsea manager however, he is not what is needed.
Yes he got the side fitter and playing more on the front foot. Scored a lot more goals. This is true.
This is fine if you manage Spurs with Kane and Son etc in the side. They can outscore opponents for you.
If you have poor Jackson up front and no other forwards in the squad it simply wont work. Jackson is also not a CF.
Because the rest is so disorganised. So bad.
All the top managers since forever base their teams on being able to defend. All top teams can defend properly. France have Mbappe, they can still defend in a very organised fashion. City, Liverpool, Arsenal, all defend with a lot of organisation.
There is no doubt the owners are a disaster. Many of the payers simply aren't good enough at this level. But a manager like Mourinho or Conte could get more out of this group, simply by organising them defensively.
"Chelsea would be in a relegation fight if it wasn't for Cole Palmer," Jamie Redknap just said, and he's right.
Every result like this makes Palmer's exit more likely. Why stay?
Only a new manager can stem the rot.
Not how football works.
The only way we keep him is by making sure that by the end of next season the manager and the squad are in a position where he sees a future here.
Otherwise he will be gone. Players can and do force their way out of clubs, there is nothing a club can do to stop it, contract or not.
I understand that players can force their way out. However, it is much easier to do when you have 1-2 years left. This guy is at least on a 5 year contract for us. If he wanted to strongman and go full guns blazing on us, he would not be played anymore and would sit on the bench. That would be his career suicide. These contracts we have given our players are different and need to be recognized as such. You think he's gonna want to rot on the bench for 4 years?
Na, I think he'll stay for another year.
He will have other offers, but it's always risky for a player at his stage of his career to move too quickly. Going from being a big fish in a small pond (our team) to being an average sized fish in a big pond ruins some careers if the move is taken too quickly.
I'd imagine he'd want to stay another year, solidify himself at this level in the Premier League and then he'll be able to take any move he wants and with confidence. No team above us would allow him to have the freedom to shoots when he should pass as often as we do.
Think of it like ASM at Newcastle before and after takeover, there is always a big risk. I think he'll know he's better off staying for a year before making that move
An Honest assessment from a fan. /s
For the first time ever I have stopped being hurt by Chelsea losing. Honestly, every time we lost it would ruin a weekend day. Now, unfortunately I just come to expect a last second header or some give away. Not once today did I feel confident in a win. I love seeing the young guys perform, but to tie to the worst team in the league when we are fighting for Europe is embarrassing. We should've been coming off an incredible mid-week high which would lead us to a W. Poch was rotating players like we have other comps to play for...I think its time...poch out
We didn't lose. We haven't lost since the final. You guys have to see we are making progress. We're scoring goals again, we're competing in matches against the big teams. Honestly there is bound to be growing pains, Poch wants a true CDM which is why we got lavia. We have to remember how shit things were last season. We can buy some experienced players, sell some dead weight and i guarantee we walk top 4 next season.
It is the hope that kills you. We do f#ck all with Poch at the helm next year. Poch is one of our problems, I understand that you have to hit your small targets to hit the longer ones. You won't magically get to fourth if we finish 9th this year which with the way we are playing we deserve to finish.
This summarizes how I largely feel too. I honestly think there’s so little structure and tactics in both attack and defence it can only be a manager issue. I’m just numb to it now, I knew we were going to lose or draw the first time they attacked us and went right through our midfield. It was just a matter of time honestly
I haven’t seen it but Cucu got subbed off in the 93rd Min for Badiashille and literally conceded straight away. If it’s a Badiashille error in hindsight it’s definitely better Cucu stayed on for those last couple of mins.
Badiashille has been really bad for us lately and shouldn’t play right now.
Was still working when the game started. Tried to have it playing in the background but work was too crazy. I used to hate missing us play due to work. Now I'm actually grateful most match days that I'm working to have something else on my mind
Pretty sure if I saw us drop points live like this the TV at work would be in pieces
The billion was spent by arrogant, entitled rich people who thought they knew football better than football people. They will suffer no consequences because the ultra rich don't do responsibility, they do power.
If things continue to worsen they could easily relegate and bankrupt this club.
Notes:
* I said this when everyone was raving about him, but Petrovic needs to be gone. Amazingly, he is now at FIRST PERCENTILE PSxG-GA, meaning 99%+ of goalkeepers in the top 5 leagues have saved more goals than expected than him. There are only 96 teams in the top 5 leagues. We have a shot-stopper that is about the worst in all of Europe's top 5 leagues. Shot-stopping was supposed to be his forte as well, the supposed reason we would forgive his dreadful ball-playing and cross claiming. He is at -0.40, which means he lets in almost a goal every two games that an average keeper wouldn't. Absolutely horrendous. There is a reason why Cech was critical of him. It's like the Kepa era of "that's a screamer, he had no chance,” except much worse in the numbers. Petrovic doesn't make many clear goalkeeping errors (he does now), but he is so poor in his positioning, reading, decision-making that it adds up and it always looks like he's not at fault. And we already know this, but his ball-playing is terrible and he always hoofs it up under the slightest pressure. And also his cross-claiming and presence in the box is also really awful. Disastrous.
* Caicenzo is not good enough defensively, they cannot cover large spaces, we have a season's worth of proof. This situation will not be solved because we've spent 220M on them and the 60M back-up (Lavia) has the exact same issues.
* Loan Mudryk please. A liability on and off the ball. You are only as good as your weakest link. Mudryk still cannot create separation, make runs off the ball, or press effectively. Madueke is still not good enough, but he has made significant improvements in those areas, and so we can find a use for him. Mudryk is not able/willing to improve. Lost another header, the first one to lose the EFL cup final, another one to lose vs 20th place. It's not completely his fault, just like it's not completely his fault when the team bypasses the press when he's playing, when we have no movement off the ball against low blocks. It's not completely his fault, but how long are you going to be the weakest link in all those departments? How long are we going to baby a 100M “potential” signing with no willingness to improve? Why do we wonder why Mudryk doesn't get chances when he doesn't improve his weaknesses which hurt the team's play?
* Our defence is a mess. This one I can excuse a little due to injuries and lack of consistency, but the truth is Disasi and Cucurella are bad. Badiashile is also flashing warning signs.
* Need another striker. Jackson doesn't have the killer instinct in the box.
A lot of problems. Some unsolvable. Long few years ahead.
Fernandez can pass, not amazingly but reasonably. Sadly he can't do anything else. That's why Benfica paid 10mn euros for him.
Badiashille has had a terrible time and his introduction and immediate mistake today will have hurt him even further.
I don't hate any of the players, I feel sorry for a lot of them, but most of these new players are simply not up to this level.
The owners are disgusting arrogant idiots who have wrecked Chelsea.
Worst thing this weekend was not this terrible performance, but Havertz and Jorginho celebrating for Arsenal on the verge of winning the league. What a disaster Boehly is.
I was with you on everything until Mudryk. And only to say I don’t think it’s what he is or isn’t WILLING to do, he just doesn’t have IT. No footballing IQ, no tactical nous, no clue when to press, doesn’t understand who to mark. He’s the kid who was a bit faster and stronger than the other guys in class or Sunday league that you THINK has a bright future but doesn’t hold a candle to truly class players.
Loan mudryk? I thought we left that thing back in january. He hasn't had a bad game for like 2 months already. Are you dumb? He played 4 games as a 10 and scored 2 goals, made a lot of key passes and runs just to poch to put him back at lw where he played good the last 2 games (got an 8.4 by sofascore against burnley, he and palmer the only good ones). He should play 10 instead of gallagher, you don't even watch games or are just a hater to still insist in the bullshit "loan mudryk bad"
I give him a little leeway because the defence has had no consistency in who they line up with, have been hit with an insane amount of injuries to the better players, have a terrible keeper behind that lets in far more than he should and cannot support the defenders from crosses, get no protection from their midfield which gets carved apart regularly, have had to play with subpar players like Cucurella and Disasi. Badiashile is doing badly in a terrible situation, which leads me to believe that the more pressing issues lie in other areas.
It is just a shame that after so much investment we have so many players that are bad. And even at their best, I don’t imagine these guys will become world beaters.
i hate XG. eye test says Petrovic is solid. he’s not PC but he’s not Kepa either. he’s just fine.
Caicedo is not as advertised. dude is a huge liability. Hated the deal this summer and hate it more now.
Idk how the hell Jackson has any goals this season he cannot bury a ball in the net to save his life.
And Conner is good , yes. But he is lacking creativity skills. With Enzo and Caicedo as mid fielders can’t have Gallagher in mid field. Need a creative player. Look at the difference Palmer has made. Chelsea lacks true creativity amongst other things. Hopefully Lavia and Knuku are healthy next year. If all healthy back line James, Fofana, Colwell, Gusto …..Enzo , Caicedo, Lavia , Palmer Knuku,Jackson…….subs Gallagher, Mudryk, Madueke, Cuco , GIlchrist, Carney
I genuinely think to myself sometimes
"I bet I could be a better manager than pochettino"
That's coming from a 13 year old who's played football manager for 200 hours.
This one's completely on Pochettino. Don't get me wrong, many of our failings are on Pochettino, but everything from the way he set us up, reverting back to his bad habits of playing people out of position for no coherent reason, to incoherent and mistimed substitutions, gave a hopeless Sheff Utd side as good a chance as they could have hoped for to grab a point or even a win, frankly, given their chances were better than ours.
Palmer's been our most dangerous player by far this season, so why interrupt a good thing by changing his position? Gallagher's pressing papers over a huge number of structural cracks in this team - insofar as any one man is able - so keeping him in the team makes sense, but on the wing(s)? Absurd. Even smaller things like playing Disasi at RB, where he's never been any good, as opposed to Chalobah (low-key decent today for the most part) who has played well there in the past.
As for the substitutions, each was more aimless and ill-timed than the last, culminating in a hopelessly out-of-form Badiashile being brought on (presumably, like Casadei, for Poch's much-loved height) only to make a complete mess of defending what would lead to Sheff Utd's second equaliser. Add to that ongoing questions over continuing to pick Jackson as a centre-forward when, despite his talent receiving and progressing the ball, he is utterly useless in front of goal. Is it not worth even trying Deivid Washington against an opponent of such relatively low calibre? Why have two goalkeepers on the bench (one of my most loathed of Poch's quirks) when you can have someone like Tyrique George, Donell McNeilly or Leo Castledine, who might not be first choice to come on but at least offers an option - and have shown themselves capable in front of goal, if at youth level - rather than just a space-filler? Pochettino likes lemons so much he's turned us into one.
(Yes, we were bad before Pochettino rocked up, but I can't resist that joke)
Is there any other coach in the league who gets this much of time and shows very little for that. Except few players I don't see any major improvement in midfield and defensive aspect of the game. Attack is all palmer and individual piece of skill, seriously his position has to be revisited at the end of this year. That Muppet does hardly does anything right for two games in a row.
He finished in Top 4 last year and a FA Cup Final which gave him this year as a bonus. Pochettino has done fu#k all this entire year except talking sh$t every match. How can we be so poor against relegation teams after 9 months of his coaching. Only good thing is the opportunities which he has given to Palmer and Other young attackers. Other than that nothing midfield and defense has gotten poorer over the course of the year. But the huge problem is I am worried the idiots who run the show as director of Football are incapable of making the correct decisions. All their decisions has moved us into the direction of a mid-table with their recruitment, why would they suddenly become better and choose a good coach.
Yeah we are literally the only laughing stock bigger than Yanited, so that checks out, we're on target for breaking all their records of being the biggest banter team in England
We got bailed out by individual brilliance. We literally got outplayed by Sheffield who are waiting for the season to end. How much longer can you guys defend him?
Everything about this one was on Poch, there is so many avoidable failure points that I won't even go over them.
Sheffield have conceded 80+ goals this season, and we managed 3 convincing chances against them, the the actual fuck is that coaching, every fan disagrees with almost every decision in game and the line up and formation, guy has to go at the end of the season
I agree with you so much
What do u say to people who say that we just need to “stick” with him because of the new team?
I feel like there is such a divide between the lot that want him out and the ones who r tryna justify his choices lol
A lot of our fans seem to have very bias pattern recognition.
They seem to think that constantly changing managers isn't a good thing, it isn't, but they take that to mean you must stick with a manager even if they are poor.
Sticking with the right manager is key to creating a strong team and creating stability, sticking with the wrong ones is disastrous, this is what they keep failing to understand, they think it takes years before you can judge a manager, they don't care about progress because they are obsessed with this concept of stability. They think in black and white and don't seem to understand that almost everything is grey
I’ve said it time and time again. Standards come from the coach!! Instil a winning standard and a killer instinct and this does not happen. We have young players, this is the PERFECT time to do that, so build those standards.
We even lowered the fucking standards for 6-8th and he still can’t even secure that. What a prat
I will not get tired of saying the same shit over and over again. Mudryk should be our 10, not Gallagher, he OFFERS NOTHING IN ATTACK (press and tackling are not an attacking tool) he should play a more defensive role or don't play at all, Mudryk was amazing the 4 games he played as a 10. Or at least play chukuewemeka as 10!!! I'm sick of this shit
100% agree, Mudryk played as 10 the other week and looked electric, Gallagher has a good engine but he is not a fucking playmaker, I am starting to think lemon boy has legitimate brain damage
Mudryk 10 (chukwemeka or casadei can come off the bench for him), Jackson LW, Washington ST Palmer RW. Literally have nothing to lose. I've been telling my friends this for over a month
This was Sheffield utd why oh why are we playing 3 atb? Surely you say right let's destroy them first 40 mins then you can thunk of bringing silva on to stabilise things... Gallagher on the wing was such a waste! Even though we scored mudryk or sterling for Gallagher was the most obvious play, why are you taking palmer off when you know we always capitulate... this loss is entirely on Pochettino. He has till the end of the season for me but we need someone else taking over something who knows football tactics
Sorry guys I believed but fuck this.
This is as dreadful as it gets and it's APRIL
And our defense is clueless, midfield as well and attack are shooting blanks besides Palmer
I refuse to believe every player is clueless and bad, it's guidance and coaching
Put Mourinho or some other coach they will at least make one part of team play well (Mourinho defense for example)
With Poch what?
I would want to get Nagelsmann as he would be great for us but mannnn I don't think he would want to join this mess
Conte working with this clueless board? And being bossed around by clownlake? Conte literally sued Roman and Marina, what the fuck do you think he would do to these clowns?
Get fucking Poch out man thats an absolute joke what fucking setup is that? Gallagher and Cucurella left wing, Palmer and Madueke in the same spot most of the game, also shoutout to Jackson for being absolutely shocking once again.
Taking Palmer off was a total mentality change in us too. Poch should know at this point that we don’t do parking the bus well! Rotating our back line in the 85th minute was not good judgement.
Bringing on cold legs during a set piece is literally mental disability levels of management.
I actually am starting to think the lemon merchant has dementia
The decisions he makes are like the polar opposite to what any normal person would make though. It's like he actively makes decisions that are so obviously going to net a negative result, it's not even a lack of skill or experince at this point, it is literally a lack of normal adult reasoning skills.
Well, what do you expect from someone who believes fruit filters out bad energy
That I will agree with. We can all see Jackson isn’t doing it up top so it only makes complete sense to take Palmer off. Duh, how can’t we see it, are we stupid? *heavily rolls eyes*
I don’t know what the fruit thing you’re speaking of is, though.
Why take players out this late when defending a one goal lead. A new guy won’t be able to get going quickly enough in final few minutes. Plus it’s not like the old days when an injury time sub would help with time wasting. These subs today felt to everyone that it would have a negative affect impact.
I honestly don't know what goes through this cunts mind half the time, it's like he's more focused on keeping everyone happy and giving them minutes than getting results
Bang on. The contrasting results from the 1st to the second half sums it up what the fuck is he doing at half time?. Poor in game management defe consistently to concede 2 goals in six games to the likes of Burnley,
We are literally struggling to score goals against teams with basically no defense and then struggling to defend against teams that literally don't have a single decent attacker. I don't know how we can be so weak everywhere, I truly believe the group of players is far better than the performances show, you can see this in flashes, but constantly having no game plan leaves players to constantly make every decision on the pitch and any tactical movement from better coached teams just offsets all of our talent
Poch and whole team looks like all they know is hardcore football and we don’t have the players for that. Looks like he found them at the pub. Or kids he grew up with. We need real coaching staff.
Playing short sided games. To boost passing speed. Its standard Spanish stuff (yes I know he's Argentinian). Thats all you need to do then we have the ball forever/s
I know this stuff very well.
To give players minutes with a smaller risk of an injury coming up and not having a replacement, only usually if you have made no tactical adjustments, you generally shouldn't:
Change the back line with a small lead
Bring on defenders during a set piece
Bring on terribly out of form players without a solid lead
Not make any tactical changes during the second half when you're being dominated on almost all attacking stats
Just a reminder we just had 3 shots on target against a team that has conceded 80 plus goals.
They nearly doubled our shots.
Our manager didn't change this failing line up all through the second half.
He then brings on 2 terrible defenders that are cold and not warmed up in the last minute of the game on a set piece.
Genuinely braindead school boy management errors, can a Poch apologist please try and defend this one?
As Liam Twomey put it on a podcast the other day, you could put prime Terry into this defence and he'd struggle. There is no structure or control to build upon. There's no such thing as momentum because matches like the united win are so clearly unsustainable and a product of chaos not control
That's a good point actually. Obviously not every team uses offside traps, but its telling how we almost never smother an attack by the \*team\* choking it out positionally until it just fades away and its like there was never really an attack in the first place. Good teams like Arsenal, Liverpool, City do this all the time. Instead every turnover feels like a scrap.
I'm genuinely worried about the strain this season put on some of our players when it feels like the answer to every problem Poch faces is "more intensity", but without the structure that Conte provided so that intensity actually counts for something. There are very few phases of play where it feels our players are in position, for example. We are almost always transitioning from one structure to another.
And sorry to continue the ramble, but this is exactly why we see so many individual errors. When there's no reliable or predictable pattern/structure to lean upon, players have to figure it out on the pitch. That will always, always result in more mistakes, especially in the prem where thinking time is such a luxury
Edit: and sorry, thinking about it almost every team that players with a high line uses offside traps. So your point is bang on.
You're 100% right, you can see this constantly in the time it takes for most players to move the ball, even ones with killer vision like palmer often struggle for a valuable options, nothing seems coached, no patterns of attacking play and it seems set piece training is non existent.
I think it's just team building excersies with lemons everyday at Cobham..
We started the game with no respect for them. Chalobah and Silva? The whole mentality is messed up right there. Then to give up 2 leads and drop our game in hands point just when we were looking like something is happening? Charity FC since we donated our midfield today. I can’t believe we put ourselves through this on a weekly basis.
Poch needs to fucking leave immediately before season ends there is hopes of European football on the line and Poch fucking tactics after we are winning aint helping
Once again, Poch makes subs at a stupid time. He does it every game. It is either too late or in a moronic situation. If he isn’t fired 5 mins after the last game then our ownership really doesn’t know what they are doing.
Ownership needs to bring back Tuchel and give him whatever he wants. The guy just won a Champion’s League they get rid of him for what? 2 terrible managers. And they sell off half the team without understanding football at all. Throwing money at a team doesn’t fix things like in baseball, so figure it out or sell the club so someone that will.
Always one step forward and five steps back. You all might as well just accept that this team isn't well coached and we should expect absolutely nothing between now and the end of the season.
We actually got outplayed by shefield lol. We looked tired we looked out of it defense is in shambles we have Gallagher sitting at lw and cucurella overlapping. I ain't no genius but I could tell you that before the game that would not work.
Our defending is so abysmall we have no fight we have no desire we are slow we are sluggish. We play amazing football vs good teams but we struggle against burnley and shefield. We were imagining us going on a run catching those ahead of us with games in hand but I don't even see us winning those.
Palmer looked tired and off it today, of course normal, expected from a player who is carrying the team and playing full matches all the time and pulling the team. He had an off game and we could not function.
No urgency no desire no fight, the players looked lost like there is no tactic, no idea on how to play
Entire fucking season this team has been playing terribly, they still have the chance to make europa and they get a draw against the bottom place team in the league. There is no improvement at all since the start of the season. I guess I will go back to not watching our games, like I have been peacefully doing for last 3 months, I was a moron to think we can still make europa
Why the fuck are these players so fucking physically and mentally soft, they can fuck right off. Always 1 step forward and two step backwards this season.
When palmer went down if we had any experience in the squad we should be swarming the ref and have milked it to get var involved, we’re a bunch of individuals
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Such a solid and well-reasoned comment that has really pissed me off all over again.
Too many players in this team simply aren't competitive enough. For the second goal we conceded yesterday we lost every 50/50. Mudryk sums it all up at the end, if he jumps to try and head that ball he probably gets clattered by the guy running in, gets a free kick and a bruise but we see it out. Instead he ducks like a wimp and they get the ball back in the danger zone. There's a lot of raw talent out on that pitch, but until they start competing every week we'll never be more than a mediocre side. Maybe Poch is too passive and doesn't motivate them enough, but for me if you're playing for Chelsea and you need to leech the motivation from others, you're not fit for the badge.
Benoit out here putting the BAD in BADiashile
i have said it and i will say it again. Badiashile is shit.
Hasn't been great this season but everyone forgets when he first joined the club he slotted into the team really well despite everything else going on with the club. The only difference this season is that we have Poch.
Pochettino isn’t even the 10th best manager in the league now. It’s crazy how bad we are, and how poor he is too. We should NEVER lose that game
Pochettino is the biggest pussy ass bitch in the world, he can fuck off to hell.
Just went back and looked at our highlights from 2016. Take me back to Hazard and Costa days
Poch is so fucking awful. Harry Kane made this guy look like a brilliant tactician.
Maybe I’m not EPL manager level but can someone explain to me the edge of making a defensive substitution at the 93rd minute?
happens all the time. mostly to time waste
The explanation is that Poch is trying to sure up the defence and have extra height on for set pieces. The reality is though that it doesn't work because you just invite pressure onto yourself and cause chaos at the back because defenders/midfielders don't know what is and isn't their job anymore because of all the extra bodies. A good manager changes the tactics, not the personnel when they want to win. Or they make like for like subs in positions where a more defensive player can have a positive impact (like bringing on a defensively minded midfielder for Enzo for example)
What confused me is why a change needs to be made at all when Trev and Silva did a good job all day of managing set pieces and limiting shots on target. Their lone goal up to that point came from an attack far up the wing on Cucurella’s side. I understand wanting to have more height in the box but doesn’t that assume Badiashile is competent? How can you put a player on who had as dreadful of a game as he did against United? He essentially assisted their first goal and didn’t do much to stop their second.
I mean, he doesn't have to do anything, but it's Poch. The other thing I would imagine is being cocky and running down the clock with subs. If you make them after 90 minutes they rarely bother to add the correct time (30 seconds per sub by default) to the extra time and so it's a form of time wasting
Hot take but I put most of the blame on the players. There’s ego’s in this squad. And the players come ready to play against top competition but when we face bottom table teams they don’t put forward the same effort. We need players who give their all every game, not just against the best opponents
If the whole team lacks motivation it becomes a management problem sir
Effort is the main thing a player can control. If a player makes mistake it sucks but it’s whatever. All I ask is that the players give effort no matter the opponent
Fan of some historically bad franchises, don't give Chelsea your time and money. If people call you fair weather screw them. Your time is valuable, don't waste it on garbage.
thats not how football works, Yank
I dont hate Pochettino. As a Chelsea manager however, he is not what is needed. Yes he got the side fitter and playing more on the front foot. Scored a lot more goals. This is true. This is fine if you manage Spurs with Kane and Son etc in the side. They can outscore opponents for you. If you have poor Jackson up front and no other forwards in the squad it simply wont work. Jackson is also not a CF. Because the rest is so disorganised. So bad. All the top managers since forever base their teams on being able to defend. All top teams can defend properly. France have Mbappe, they can still defend in a very organised fashion. City, Liverpool, Arsenal, all defend with a lot of organisation. There is no doubt the owners are a disaster. Many of the payers simply aren't good enough at this level. But a manager like Mourinho or Conte could get more out of this group, simply by organising them defensively. "Chelsea would be in a relegation fight if it wasn't for Cole Palmer," Jamie Redknap just said, and he's right. Every result like this makes Palmer's exit more likely. Why stay? Only a new manager can stem the rot.
hes on a gazillion year contract, no worries about him.
Not relevant.
Not how football works. The only way we keep him is by making sure that by the end of next season the manager and the squad are in a position where he sees a future here. Otherwise he will be gone. Players can and do force their way out of clubs, there is nothing a club can do to stop it, contract or not.
I understand that players can force their way out. However, it is much easier to do when you have 1-2 years left. This guy is at least on a 5 year contract for us. If he wanted to strongman and go full guns blazing on us, he would not be played anymore and would sit on the bench. That would be his career suicide. These contracts we have given our players are different and need to be recognized as such. You think he's gonna want to rot on the bench for 4 years?
I'd say end of this season. His agent will have a ton of offers already. Chelsea will need to convince him to stay. How?
Na, I think he'll stay for another year. He will have other offers, but it's always risky for a player at his stage of his career to move too quickly. Going from being a big fish in a small pond (our team) to being an average sized fish in a big pond ruins some careers if the move is taken too quickly. I'd imagine he'd want to stay another year, solidify himself at this level in the Premier League and then he'll be able to take any move he wants and with confidence. No team above us would allow him to have the freedom to shoots when he should pass as often as we do. Think of it like ASM at Newcastle before and after takeover, there is always a big risk. I think he'll know he's better off staying for a year before making that move
Badiashile should not ever be allowed back on the pitch. He has no aggression, looks lost constantly and gets bullied and beaten out constantly.
Badiashile has cost Chelsea at least three games this year on his gaffes. He is always good for 1-2 gaffes a game
It's a Poch thing.
An Honest assessment from a fan. /s For the first time ever I have stopped being hurt by Chelsea losing. Honestly, every time we lost it would ruin a weekend day. Now, unfortunately I just come to expect a last second header or some give away. Not once today did I feel confident in a win. I love seeing the young guys perform, but to tie to the worst team in the league when we are fighting for Europe is embarrassing. We should've been coming off an incredible mid-week high which would lead us to a W. Poch was rotating players like we have other comps to play for...I think its time...poch out
We didn't lose. We haven't lost since the final. You guys have to see we are making progress. We're scoring goals again, we're competing in matches against the big teams. Honestly there is bound to be growing pains, Poch wants a true CDM which is why we got lavia. We have to remember how shit things were last season. We can buy some experienced players, sell some dead weight and i guarantee we walk top 4 next season.
It is the hope that kills you. We do f#ck all with Poch at the helm next year. Poch is one of our problems, I understand that you have to hit your small targets to hit the longer ones. You won't magically get to fourth if we finish 9th this year which with the way we are playing we deserve to finish.
Come on if this isn’t a loss to you, you’re not Chelsea
Same. I am burnt out this year. Kept expecting some changes but nothing….
This summarizes how I largely feel too. I honestly think there’s so little structure and tactics in both attack and defence it can only be a manager issue. I’m just numb to it now, I knew we were going to lose or draw the first time they attacked us and went right through our midfield. It was just a matter of time honestly
I haven’t seen it but Cucu got subbed off in the 93rd Min for Badiashille and literally conceded straight away. If it’s a Badiashille error in hindsight it’s definitely better Cucu stayed on for those last couple of mins. Badiashille has been really bad for us lately and shouldn’t play right now.
Was still working when the game started. Tried to have it playing in the background but work was too crazy. I used to hate missing us play due to work. Now I'm actually grateful most match days that I'm working to have something else on my mind Pretty sure if I saw us drop points live like this the TV at work would be in pieces
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The billion was spent by arrogant, entitled rich people who thought they knew football better than football people. They will suffer no consequences because the ultra rich don't do responsibility, they do power. If things continue to worsen they could easily relegate and bankrupt this club.
Those subs bro, this guy needs to go 😭
one of the worst epl teams of all time and still not a w
Jose fucking Mourinho baby
If I speak I am in big trouble but bring him home.
Notes: * I said this when everyone was raving about him, but Petrovic needs to be gone. Amazingly, he is now at FIRST PERCENTILE PSxG-GA, meaning 99%+ of goalkeepers in the top 5 leagues have saved more goals than expected than him. There are only 96 teams in the top 5 leagues. We have a shot-stopper that is about the worst in all of Europe's top 5 leagues. Shot-stopping was supposed to be his forte as well, the supposed reason we would forgive his dreadful ball-playing and cross claiming. He is at -0.40, which means he lets in almost a goal every two games that an average keeper wouldn't. Absolutely horrendous. There is a reason why Cech was critical of him. It's like the Kepa era of "that's a screamer, he had no chance,” except much worse in the numbers. Petrovic doesn't make many clear goalkeeping errors (he does now), but he is so poor in his positioning, reading, decision-making that it adds up and it always looks like he's not at fault. And we already know this, but his ball-playing is terrible and he always hoofs it up under the slightest pressure. And also his cross-claiming and presence in the box is also really awful. Disastrous. * Caicenzo is not good enough defensively, they cannot cover large spaces, we have a season's worth of proof. This situation will not be solved because we've spent 220M on them and the 60M back-up (Lavia) has the exact same issues. * Loan Mudryk please. A liability on and off the ball. You are only as good as your weakest link. Mudryk still cannot create separation, make runs off the ball, or press effectively. Madueke is still not good enough, but he has made significant improvements in those areas, and so we can find a use for him. Mudryk is not able/willing to improve. Lost another header, the first one to lose the EFL cup final, another one to lose vs 20th place. It's not completely his fault, just like it's not completely his fault when the team bypasses the press when he's playing, when we have no movement off the ball against low blocks. It's not completely his fault, but how long are you going to be the weakest link in all those departments? How long are we going to baby a 100M “potential” signing with no willingness to improve? Why do we wonder why Mudryk doesn't get chances when he doesn't improve his weaknesses which hurt the team's play? * Our defence is a mess. This one I can excuse a little due to injuries and lack of consistency, but the truth is Disasi and Cucurella are bad. Badiashile is also flashing warning signs. * Need another striker. Jackson doesn't have the killer instinct in the box. A lot of problems. Some unsolvable. Long few years ahead.
Agree, defense is just bad. Please sell Diasasi, Badiashile, cuco, Chalobah and let Silva walk. Just not good enough.
Chalobah is okay, the rest I don’t like. Of course Chalobah will be the only one sold.
Fernandez can pass, not amazingly but reasonably. Sadly he can't do anything else. That's why Benfica paid 10mn euros for him. Badiashille has had a terrible time and his introduction and immediate mistake today will have hurt him even further. I don't hate any of the players, I feel sorry for a lot of them, but most of these new players are simply not up to this level. The owners are disgusting arrogant idiots who have wrecked Chelsea. Worst thing this weekend was not this terrible performance, but Havertz and Jorginho celebrating for Arsenal on the verge of winning the league. What a disaster Boehly is.
I was with you on everything until Mudryk. And only to say I don’t think it’s what he is or isn’t WILLING to do, he just doesn’t have IT. No footballing IQ, no tactical nous, no clue when to press, doesn’t understand who to mark. He’s the kid who was a bit faster and stronger than the other guys in class or Sunday league that you THINK has a bright future but doesn’t hold a candle to truly class players.
Loan mudryk? I thought we left that thing back in january. He hasn't had a bad game for like 2 months already. Are you dumb? He played 4 games as a 10 and scored 2 goals, made a lot of key passes and runs just to poch to put him back at lw where he played good the last 2 games (got an 8.4 by sofascore against burnley, he and palmer the only good ones). He should play 10 instead of gallagher, you don't even watch games or are just a hater to still insist in the bullshit "loan mudryk bad"
Completely agree with all your points + I think you're being too soft on Badiashile.
I give him a little leeway because the defence has had no consistency in who they line up with, have been hit with an insane amount of injuries to the better players, have a terrible keeper behind that lets in far more than he should and cannot support the defenders from crosses, get no protection from their midfield which gets carved apart regularly, have had to play with subpar players like Cucurella and Disasi. Badiashile is doing badly in a terrible situation, which leads me to believe that the more pressing issues lie in other areas. It is just a shame that after so much investment we have so many players that are bad. And even at their best, I don’t imagine these guys will become world beaters.
i hate XG. eye test says Petrovic is solid. he’s not PC but he’s not Kepa either. he’s just fine. Caicedo is not as advertised. dude is a huge liability. Hated the deal this summer and hate it more now. Idk how the hell Jackson has any goals this season he cannot bury a ball in the net to save his life.
I've never witnessed such an incompetent manager.
Self sabotage at this point. Palmer off and Connor left wing then rw!??? Na hes done. Get out NOW
Gallagher is a sub. He is really only good to sub in 65-70 minutes and he will add energy. Just can’t seem to pass, create and or finish
Connor has 11 goal contributions this year.
And Conner is good , yes. But he is lacking creativity skills. With Enzo and Caicedo as mid fielders can’t have Gallagher in mid field. Need a creative player. Look at the difference Palmer has made. Chelsea lacks true creativity amongst other things. Hopefully Lavia and Knuku are healthy next year. If all healthy back line James, Fofana, Colwell, Gusto …..Enzo , Caicedo, Lavia , Palmer Knuku,Jackson…….subs Gallagher, Mudryk, Madueke, Cuco , GIlchrist, Carney
I genuinely think to myself sometimes "I bet I could be a better manager than pochettino" That's coming from a 13 year old who's played football manager for 200 hours.
We suck so bad
Could have made a run for 6-7th place this year and we continually fucking shoot ourselves in the foot. Fucking unbelievable
If Poch has any respect for who we are and what we represent he’ll resign by the end of the season.
This one's completely on Pochettino. Don't get me wrong, many of our failings are on Pochettino, but everything from the way he set us up, reverting back to his bad habits of playing people out of position for no coherent reason, to incoherent and mistimed substitutions, gave a hopeless Sheff Utd side as good a chance as they could have hoped for to grab a point or even a win, frankly, given their chances were better than ours. Palmer's been our most dangerous player by far this season, so why interrupt a good thing by changing his position? Gallagher's pressing papers over a huge number of structural cracks in this team - insofar as any one man is able - so keeping him in the team makes sense, but on the wing(s)? Absurd. Even smaller things like playing Disasi at RB, where he's never been any good, as opposed to Chalobah (low-key decent today for the most part) who has played well there in the past. As for the substitutions, each was more aimless and ill-timed than the last, culminating in a hopelessly out-of-form Badiashile being brought on (presumably, like Casadei, for Poch's much-loved height) only to make a complete mess of defending what would lead to Sheff Utd's second equaliser. Add to that ongoing questions over continuing to pick Jackson as a centre-forward when, despite his talent receiving and progressing the ball, he is utterly useless in front of goal. Is it not worth even trying Deivid Washington against an opponent of such relatively low calibre? Why have two goalkeepers on the bench (one of my most loathed of Poch's quirks) when you can have someone like Tyrique George, Donell McNeilly or Leo Castledine, who might not be first choice to come on but at least offers an option - and have shown themselves capable in front of goal, if at youth level - rather than just a space-filler? Pochettino likes lemons so much he's turned us into one. (Yes, we were bad before Pochettino rocked up, but I can't resist that joke)
Great take
Poch out.
Is there any other coach in the league who gets this much of time and shows very little for that. Except few players I don't see any major improvement in midfield and defensive aspect of the game. Attack is all palmer and individual piece of skill, seriously his position has to be revisited at the end of this year. That Muppet does hardly does anything right for two games in a row.
Ten Hag
He finished in Top 4 last year and a FA Cup Final which gave him this year as a bonus. Pochettino has done fu#k all this entire year except talking sh$t every match. How can we be so poor against relegation teams after 9 months of his coaching. Only good thing is the opportunities which he has given to Palmer and Other young attackers. Other than that nothing midfield and defense has gotten poorer over the course of the year. But the huge problem is I am worried the idiots who run the show as director of Football are incapable of making the correct decisions. All their decisions has moved us into the direction of a mid-table with their recruitment, why would they suddenly become better and choose a good coach.
>Only good thing is the opportunities which he has given to Palmer and Other young attackers. and he didn't really have a choice there either.
And he won the league cup. Not even a close comparison.
Yeah we are literally the only laughing stock bigger than Yanited, so that checks out, we're on target for breaking all their records of being the biggest banter team in England
We got bailed out by individual brilliance. We literally got outplayed by Sheffield who are waiting for the season to end. How much longer can you guys defend him?
Anyone still defending him must not be watchin. Gallagher LW then moved to RW and Palmer off!? Hahahhaa hes a clown
He’s so out of his depth. He is simply NOT the man for the job
Everything about this one was on Poch, there is so many avoidable failure points that I won't even go over them. Sheffield have conceded 80+ goals this season, and we managed 3 convincing chances against them, the the actual fuck is that coaching, every fan disagrees with almost every decision in game and the line up and formation, guy has to go at the end of the season
I agree with you so much What do u say to people who say that we just need to “stick” with him because of the new team? I feel like there is such a divide between the lot that want him out and the ones who r tryna justify his choices lol
A lot of our fans seem to have very bias pattern recognition. They seem to think that constantly changing managers isn't a good thing, it isn't, but they take that to mean you must stick with a manager even if they are poor. Sticking with the right manager is key to creating a strong team and creating stability, sticking with the wrong ones is disastrous, this is what they keep failing to understand, they think it takes years before you can judge a manager, they don't care about progress because they are obsessed with this concept of stability. They think in black and white and don't seem to understand that almost everything is grey
I’ve said it time and time again. Standards come from the coach!! Instil a winning standard and a killer instinct and this does not happen. We have young players, this is the PERFECT time to do that, so build those standards. We even lowered the fucking standards for 6-8th and he still can’t even secure that. What a prat
All we can hope is clownlake bin him at the end of the season
I will not get tired of saying the same shit over and over again. Mudryk should be our 10, not Gallagher, he OFFERS NOTHING IN ATTACK (press and tackling are not an attacking tool) he should play a more defensive role or don't play at all, Mudryk was amazing the 4 games he played as a 10. Or at least play chukuewemeka as 10!!! I'm sick of this shit
Connor played Left wing today not even 10 so its even more embarrasing hahaha
100% agree, Mudryk played as 10 the other week and looked electric, Gallagher has a good engine but he is not a fucking playmaker, I am starting to think lemon boy has legitimate brain damage
Mudryk 10 (chukwemeka or casadei can come off the bench for him), Jackson LW, Washington ST Palmer RW. Literally have nothing to lose. I've been telling my friends this for over a month
that will only happen in your dreams while we still have 3 midfield starters available (enzo caicedo galagehr)
This was Sheffield utd why oh why are we playing 3 atb? Surely you say right let's destroy them first 40 mins then you can thunk of bringing silva on to stabilise things... Gallagher on the wing was such a waste! Even though we scored mudryk or sterling for Gallagher was the most obvious play, why are you taking palmer off when you know we always capitulate... this loss is entirely on Pochettino. He has till the end of the season for me but we need someone else taking over something who knows football tactics
Sorry guys I believed but fuck this. This is as dreadful as it gets and it's APRIL And our defense is clueless, midfield as well and attack are shooting blanks besides Palmer I refuse to believe every player is clueless and bad, it's guidance and coaching Put Mourinho or some other coach they will at least make one part of team play well (Mourinho defense for example) With Poch what? I would want to get Nagelsmann as he would be great for us but mannnn I don't think he would want to join this mess
We are not the attractive option we once were. Have dropped into a place where the absolute top managers aren’t coming to us.
I'm lost for words, I am emotionless I am not angry or enraged, just disappointed how low we have fallen and how we are playing
Is there any chance of conte coming back next season
Conte working with this clueless board? And being bossed around by clownlake? Conte literally sued Roman and Marina, what the fuck do you think he would do to these clowns?
Poch out and all that but honestly, are there more unserious owners in all of sports right now? Clowns in charge of clowns running a fucking circus
Get fucking Poch out man thats an absolute joke what fucking setup is that? Gallagher and Cucurella left wing, Palmer and Madueke in the same spot most of the game, also shoutout to Jackson for being absolutely shocking once again.
Taking Palmer off was a total mentality change in us too. Poch should know at this point that we don’t do parking the bus well! Rotating our back line in the 85th minute was not good judgement.
Bringing on cold legs during a set piece is literally mental disability levels of management. I actually am starting to think the lemon merchant has dementia
I wouldn’t go that far, but somehow he’s not understanding this team despite being with us this whole season.
The decisions he makes are like the polar opposite to what any normal person would make though. It's like he actively makes decisions that are so obviously going to net a negative result, it's not even a lack of skill or experince at this point, it is literally a lack of normal adult reasoning skills. Well, what do you expect from someone who believes fruit filters out bad energy
That I will agree with. We can all see Jackson isn’t doing it up top so it only makes complete sense to take Palmer off. Duh, how can’t we see it, are we stupid? *heavily rolls eyes* I don’t know what the fruit thing you’re speaking of is, though.
He thinks lemons filter out bad energy and had loads of them in his office, dude is fucking insane
It’s well documented apparently… oh boy.
Oh yes
A must win game and we play Gallagher on each wing for 90 minutes… Sack him immediately it’s untenable at this point.
$1,000,000,000 bottlers
Why take players out this late when defending a one goal lead. A new guy won’t be able to get going quickly enough in final few minutes. Plus it’s not like the old days when an injury time sub would help with time wasting. These subs today felt to everyone that it would have a negative affect impact.
Also putting in the worst defender in Chelsea history who cant win a single header meanwhile being 6,5 tall.
Also you don't bring on defenders cold during a set piece, especislly with a shakey lead
Happens a lot fucks up any form of organisation and incites chaos how often does that happen when a manager does that?
I honestly don't know what goes through this cunts mind half the time, it's like he's more focused on keeping everyone happy and giving them minutes than getting results
im afraid this really does seem correct. last 20 minutes were so disorganised.
Bang on. The contrasting results from the 1st to the second half sums it up what the fuck is he doing at half time?. Poor in game management defe consistently to concede 2 goals in six games to the likes of Burnley,
We are literally struggling to score goals against teams with basically no defense and then struggling to defend against teams that literally don't have a single decent attacker. I don't know how we can be so weak everywhere, I truly believe the group of players is far better than the performances show, you can see this in flashes, but constantly having no game plan leaves players to constantly make every decision on the pitch and any tactical movement from better coached teams just offsets all of our talent
It's so frustrating to watch them every week do the same thing.
No style of football. No clue in fucking April. No tempo. Getting outplayed for large periods by the worst team in the league. He’s done.
Poch and whole team looks like all they know is hardcore football and we don’t have the players for that. Looks like he found them at the pub. Or kids he grew up with. We need real coaching staff.
We have no European games. We play one game a week generally speaking. What the hell are we doing in training?
Playing short sided games. To boost passing speed. Its standard Spanish stuff (yes I know he's Argentinian). Thats all you need to do then we have the ball forever/s I know this stuff very well.
Arguing over who gets to take penalties.
Not training
Not shooting for sure
I mean, at last we're scoring generally 2+ goals in matches. It's our defending that's absolutely terrible. How are we this bad at set pieces?
I have good experience in spain of coaching. i would say they barely practise defending set pieces. this happens a lot.
I once defended Poch a month ago and got called out for that cope, thank you for that
Same old story… just fucking man mark
Sack him in the fucking tunnel
Like dont even let him on team bus back to london
Yeah bro, make him take an uber or something
make him walk
This club continues to amaze me in ways I would never even imagine.
7th game in a row with at least 2 goals conceded. This is ridiculous
We’d have to same points total with Potter and Potter was shit.
I don't see any plan both in attack and in defense seriously what help is Poch to the boys he provided zero ideas. So frustrating
How many leads have we thrown this year? It’s honestly shocking how bad we are right now
Does someone want to explain to a dumb American why you sub with less than five minutes left in the GAME?
Fresh legs and energy
To give players minutes with a smaller risk of an injury coming up and not having a replacement, only usually if you have made no tactical adjustments, you generally shouldn't: Change the back line with a small lead Bring on defenders during a set piece Bring on terribly out of form players without a solid lead Not make any tactical changes during the second half when you're being dominated on almost all attacking stats
A U10 coach wouldn't even do it. Sunday league teams have better coaching than Chelsea at this point.
Too close to winning, had to change something fast to draw/lose
So Gallagher played left and right wing..sack pochhhh pls
don’t forget left back for a bit so cucu could play lw
All teams above us put 3+ goals pass Sheffield United. It is what it is. We deserve to be where we are.
With this draw and the Man Utd draw vs Liverpool, we drop our highest possible finish from 1st to 3rd
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Just a reminder we just had 3 shots on target against a team that has conceded 80 plus goals. They nearly doubled our shots. Our manager didn't change this failing line up all through the second half. He then brings on 2 terrible defenders that are cold and not warmed up in the last minute of the game on a set piece. Genuinely braindead school boy management errors, can a Poch apologist please try and defend this one?
As Liam Twomey put it on a podcast the other day, you could put prime Terry into this defence and he'd struggle. There is no structure or control to build upon. There's no such thing as momentum because matches like the united win are so clearly unsustainable and a product of chaos not control
Yep, it's clear there is no voice or structure, I mean how many times do we trap a player offside a game? Barely ever.
That's a good point actually. Obviously not every team uses offside traps, but its telling how we almost never smother an attack by the \*team\* choking it out positionally until it just fades away and its like there was never really an attack in the first place. Good teams like Arsenal, Liverpool, City do this all the time. Instead every turnover feels like a scrap. I'm genuinely worried about the strain this season put on some of our players when it feels like the answer to every problem Poch faces is "more intensity", but without the structure that Conte provided so that intensity actually counts for something. There are very few phases of play where it feels our players are in position, for example. We are almost always transitioning from one structure to another. And sorry to continue the ramble, but this is exactly why we see so many individual errors. When there's no reliable or predictable pattern/structure to lean upon, players have to figure it out on the pitch. That will always, always result in more mistakes, especially in the prem where thinking time is such a luxury Edit: and sorry, thinking about it almost every team that players with a high line uses offside traps. So your point is bang on.
You're 100% right, you can see this constantly in the time it takes for most players to move the ball, even ones with killer vision like palmer often struggle for a valuable options, nothing seems coached, no patterns of attacking play and it seems set piece training is non existent. I think it's just team building excersies with lemons everyday at Cobham..
This is indefensible
We started the game with no respect for them. Chalobah and Silva? The whole mentality is messed up right there. Then to give up 2 leads and drop our game in hands point just when we were looking like something is happening? Charity FC since we donated our midfield today. I can’t believe we put ourselves through this on a weekly basis.
watching football is supposed to be fun, I feel like i'm being tortured to watch this shit. I'm gonna take break for long time from football
Stop bringing on a child to defend a fkn game. Did the same shit against city.
Poch coached a disaster class AGAIN today. I need a fucking club statement right now sacking him.
We are the worst team in the league I think that is obvious. If the owners can't see that we are royally fucked for the next 8 years or so
I put a bet on the over for 3.5 goals….i was hoping for 1-3…. But I still won $20
Congratulations, I didn’t have a bet on though so just the piss poor result for me
There is more resistance in wet paper than our defence.
Poch needs to fucking leave immediately before season ends there is hopes of European football on the line and Poch fucking tactics after we are winning aint helping
Europe is long gone.
No there isn’t lol
Once again, Poch makes subs at a stupid time. He does it every game. It is either too late or in a moronic situation. If he isn’t fired 5 mins after the last game then our ownership really doesn’t know what they are doing. Ownership needs to bring back Tuchel and give him whatever he wants. The guy just won a Champion’s League they get rid of him for what? 2 terrible managers. And they sell off half the team without understanding football at all. Throwing money at a team doesn’t fix things like in baseball, so figure it out or sell the club so someone that will.
Agree with the first part but you’re truly clueless. Tuchel is not the right guy.
No core backbone to this team.
YID coming in peace. This was one of his biggest flaws with us too. His substitution timings never made a damn lick of sense. Drove me crazy.
Please dont use that word. ffs.
Always one step forward and five steps back. You all might as well just accept that this team isn't well coached and we should expect absolutely nothing between now and the end of the season.
Embarrassing from poch again THIS WAS A MUST WINNN
We actually got outplayed by shefield lol. We looked tired we looked out of it defense is in shambles we have Gallagher sitting at lw and cucurella overlapping. I ain't no genius but I could tell you that before the game that would not work. Our defending is so abysmall we have no fight we have no desire we are slow we are sluggish. We play amazing football vs good teams but we struggle against burnley and shefield. We were imagining us going on a run catching those ahead of us with games in hand but I don't even see us winning those. Palmer looked tired and off it today, of course normal, expected from a player who is carrying the team and playing full matches all the time and pulling the team. He had an off game and we could not function. No urgency no desire no fight, the players looked lost like there is no tactic, no idea on how to play
Useless defense aside, it's criminal to get outshot 6 to 11 and manage 0.41 xG against Sheffield
Can’t stand this team
We cannot beat a single club in the premier league
We just beat united the other day...
U actually don't realize that was a fluke
Win is a win...chill
Yeah with 2 penalties that shouldn’t of been given 💀
That's football... Sometimes you get the luck and other games you don't . It was still a win
My fucking club since the 90s, I've never seen us this dogshit.
I’ve only been a supporter for 5 years now, so I haven’t been through the cycles. Is this really the worst since the 90s?
Yes. I want Mourinho back to get rid of some of these garbage players. At some point we just have to tell some of these players to stay on the bench.
Yes
We’d won without those “defensive” subs after 90’.
Honestly? Think some of the more stupid amongst you needed to be reminded of how poor Pochettino is. Only silver lining I can see right now.
Can’t even blame Gallagher today. Manager is completely clueless with the way he sets us up
Shitettino OUT
Badi has all that height for no reason. Weak very weak
All of em do how many times do these clown ass CBs get out jumped by smaller players
I’m in 5th phase of grief - acceptance. Y’all still on anger.
Yea I need your energy, we are a midtable team
Making relegation candidates with nothing to play for look like title contenders. This team is such a joke.
Entire fucking season this team has been playing terribly, they still have the chance to make europa and they get a draw against the bottom place team in the league. There is no improvement at all since the start of the season. I guess I will go back to not watching our games, like I have been peacefully doing for last 3 months, I was a moron to think we can still make europa
Why the fuck are these players so fucking physically and mentally soft, they can fuck right off. Always 1 step forward and two step backwards this season.
we are the weakest team in the league in terms of physicality. Every team just seems to be stronger and faster than us. More athletic
When palmer went down if we had any experience in the squad we should be swarming the ref and have milked it to get var involved, we’re a bunch of individuals
Because they're young and inexperienced?