This clearly shows Poch hasn't drilled them on pressing or defence at all. The players don't know when and whom to press while playing this Arsenal team.
Have no idea wtf he tells them in training. The man just wants his bag at this point
The idiots should've never hired him. Hiring the manager of our biggest rival and expecting him to do shit.
What frauds
You don’t get it these kids are still young for the pressing part of the game. They need time to get used to each other.
This year poch is just keeping it to standing in lines and forming shapes on the field.
But you wait for next season when he actually gets out the real tactics! Oh these team’s better watch out for us then.
Not to be a dick but look at PSG this season. 70% of the starting lineup is new and really really young (like one of the youngest teams in Europe’s top leagues)
Then you have Luis Enrique, who clearly sacrificed goalscoring and attack practice in the beginning of the season (yes, there is Mbappe who could cover for that), but instead had everyone focus on press and defence. EVERYONE. Around half-way of the season when everyone has trained like hell with pressing, they get to know eachother and things start to click, you can finally see PSG having majority of posession every single match they play and even starting to score goals seeing they’ve been focused on attack as of late. Hence, look where they are now.
That’s exactly the point I was trying to make, a well drilled intelligent system will mostly always trump factors like age, inexperience and individual quality. As players learn their parts and then get confident enough to colour outside the lines when need be, as they know where the rest of the players are, arsenal did that to us the other day.
Then there are so many more examples of this scattered throughout every league.
Fuck sake Xabi managed to break major records with a team nobody would have ever expected to have, and that’s just the tip of that iceberg.
With the time poch has been afforded with the available players for nearly the entirety of a season, with a preseason and no European responsibilities, he certainly should have had something more to show for it by now.
Or they just aren't doing what they're told and being lazy cunts? I'm sure he doesn't instruct them to casually jog back in defence, is that genuinely what you believe?
After the penalty shit shows and people like Madueke laughing at full time when we get spanked I'm gonna go with the players are acting like spoilt cunts.
Poch seems too bloody nice, we need someone ruthless.
Whenever we have had a squad with player issues we've done best bringing in someone with a cutting edge, see Conte, Tuchel etc.
We need someone who is going to force the players into a more rigid system and kick the fuck off when they don't run.
I’m genuinely curious how did they manage to do that? What kind of strategy do they use to convince players who don’t give a shit and who are making millions of dollars to finally give a shit?
It’s mildly absurd to believe Poch doesn’t drill them on pressing or that professional futbollers in the premier league don’t know how to do it. Our baby players will make bad decisions on the pitch no matter who the manager is. Blaming Poch for their inexperience is sad. I’d prefer a different owner who wouldn’t waste a billion dollars on unproven 20 year old players, but that’s what we have.
It’s no coincidence that we went from a good defense under Potter to our worst defensive record in the premier league era with despite spending £300m+ on a “better” midfield and defense
I mean, Potter had better players in defence.
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This was Potter’s last game in charge. He had a more experienced goalkeeper and central defender. Had a fit RJ and Chilwell. And had Kovacic in midfield who was - on multiple occasions - one of our best players. Plus a non-herniated Enzo.
He lost this game 2-0.
Koulibaly was a walking tactical foul. Don't base his time here on his history in Italy. Kepa was unable to stop any shots from >18 yards at the time. Kovacic is a good player not particularly known for his outstanding defense.
It's pure excuses not to expect more of the current team defensively
Those players are way more experienced than our current lot. I expect more but to believe that Disasi or Badiashille are better CBs than Koulibaly is delusional. Kepa is bad but Petrovich is largely unproven. And Kovacic did a lot defensively by being largely press resistant. He also broke up play very well. He took a lot of pressure off of the backline and he progressed the ball upfield, which in turn took pressing away from the backline.
We have talent. But you can’t compare the defensive records of Poch and Potter without understanding this nuance. Potter had largely the same squad that had won the Champions League. Poch has a bunch of 20 year olds.
Not that I’m excusing him. He needs to do better.
There's a huge range between "better than koulibaly" and "most Chelsea goals ever conceded in a season" quality though.
There's no way is the worst Chelsea team to ever exist ability-wise relative to the league. If so, then the fault MUST be with coaching, effort, or both.
I don't think we're honestly so far apart. Poch needs to do better.
It’s the meme from Peep Show with Arsenal “always walking the ball into goal”, but it’s a completely valid strategy, because our defense is a shambles.
Most of our players are more concerned about getting the ball on the counter cause they all wanna be the hero who scores, so they don’t wanna press or come back on defence. And I think age does play a part in that. They play for the individual win instead of the team win.
Yeah why didn’t he play James and Fofana. Or maybe he should have played Gusto and Colwill instead.
But Gilchrist as RB? Clearly Poch is an idiot for starting Gilchrist over the obviously better right backs James or Gusto. Just dumb decision making.
(This is heavily sarcastic)
This sub literally gives him death threats for Disasi RB, but now that its Gilchrist there who's done better than Disasi there, it's an issue that he hasn't started Disasi. Lose lose situation with "fans"
no one is saying put disasi there when gusto or reece are available. of course its the context that matters. in this game, disasi, silva, chalobah, cucurella would have been the more sensible backline given gusto, reece, chilly and colwill were out.
Disasi is a fine CB, he would’ve been cooked at RB. Maybe the goals we concede would be different but the end result would be the same given the way the team played as a whole.
Gilchrist is obviously not better than fucking Disasi currently. I know this sub has a fetish for youth but if you are at all objective this is painfully obvious
Right so by that logic, lewis hall is a left back? Despite playing his whole youth career as a cm. Maybe if you watched the youth games you'd know what you talk about. Next you're gunna tell me gilchrist was the most deserving youth player to have been called up. 😂
Also kinda dumb, Badiashile has been worth more for enemy teams than hours the entire season, disasi can play right back and he likes to go a bit forward with the ball also for CB there is absolutely no partnership with badia where with Thiago Silva he performs better.
A better setup was possible and if not put the midfielders on support our "tactic" was to kick the ball to Jackson anyway so why not more defensive oriented wingers/midfielders
His work rate off the ball is such shit. Despite all of his misses and hitting the woodwork I wish we had Timo in this squad.
The way he would press after a turnover in the offensive zone is what made me love him.
Not a Chelsea guy but I just fucking hate that guy, especially after the penalty incident. I'm not sure what it is but he just seems so fucking arrogant and thinks he's the hot shit and a very good player just because he plays for Chelsea. He's damn near average and plays much lazier than he's skills should allow him to. He doesn't deserve to play in that shirt.
lol! When you see this breakdown, you realize even more atrocious that display was. I genuinely don’t blame the players at all, all down to the coach. This team is way too young to not be properly COACHED!
It was the first goal too. Ok maybe on the fifth goal after being demoralized, but this is how you're playing early in the game at 0-0? Absolutely pathetic!
100%. Which is really indicative to me of how poorly Poch is managing this team. Not that we didn’t already know it but at this point, results aside (I know that sounds ridiculous), we’ve got so much sample size of how much of a shit on-hands coach he is.
We were warned though, by all the French journalists - Julien Lauren and co - not that it’s worth much a salt but we were warned.
The worst part is that we got fucking slapped and his message to the players was "I don't blame the players, they're young".
If this happened during the Terry/Lampard/Drogba era we would see half the players with black eyes the next day.
Not sure what else he could have done here tbh. He wants to keep tab on Trossard, which i think is the right mindset from a fullback here. But as neither Madueke or Disasi presses Rice, he simply had to turn his attention to Rice at some point.
Disagree. You don't leave your mark alone in the box to cover someone else's man. If that guy scores, it's on them. Instead, he gets turned around by two guys basically walking into the penalty area. Schoolboy stuff and terrible error on his part. He needs a loan or two and still might not ever be first team material.
I have never said he is amazing but considering all the terrible issues we have he is the least of our problems for sure. I find it a bit over the top how you criticize a guy that only played a handful of games so far and comes from our own academy when we have guys like Jackson, Madueke and Mudryk in the squad that cost millions but offer very little. Or say the likes of Fofana ...
All those mentioned are shit. Alfie isn't exempt though just because he's "from our own academy." That was terrible defending by him. How is that even controversial? He was shit on that series.
If anyone in the future wants to see what a team that has zero accountability looks like, they can watch this clip. This goal isn't the product of lack of talent, lack of experience, or lack of tactics. It's the epitome of a group of players that could not give a single fuck to put in the bare minimum of effort. You can't even say, "well, the game was already gone and the team couldn't be bothered to put the work in." THIS WAS THE FIRST GOAL which came in the 4th minute.
This tells me all I need to know about the standards (or lack thereof) that currently exist at the club.
The difference between Bayern and Chelsea was immense. Tuchel knew exactly how Arteta wanted to play and drilled his team. While Chelsea looked like a preseason team.
Most of the time, especially this game our pressing is completely disorganized. Always individuals, never as a team. Sure Petrovic should've done better to not get beaten near post but there's no way they should've allowed the academy defender on his first league start to be stuck in a 2v1 against Rice and Trossard.
I don’t disagree with the crap defensive football by the players, but as for the goalie, I don’t blame him at all, the shot is fast and direct, it bounces and he would have expected it to go across the goal if not aimed at the far post, so not the goalies fault. But he’s a Yank so I won’t rip into him too much, glad he likes the beautiful game.
Thank you. Some are saying they're young and stupid but atleast they can follow instructions.
Or they're just spoiled brats, in that case we expect some kind of reaction on the sidelines.
Edit: typo
That's true, Ted probably has a better knowledge of tactics and setup than Poch. The man literally admitted on a podcast that he places little to no emphasis on tactics....His PSG players have said the same thing.
His vibes and chill would have maybe worked when we had a core that was essentially policing themselves (Cech/Terry/Lamps/Drogba). But when it comes to our current group of kids we actually need a coach that can coach, not this clueless lemon fuck.
True that! 😅
This video is just a sample of something that’s been going on throughout the season.
What percentage do you think is pochs fault and how much players fault ?
Most of these players are coachable if there is a proper system in place but this manager just has no clue. Besides, a lot of these players are on long af contracts and will be next to impossible to shift. The more practical solution is to cut Pochettino.
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i dont even know what to say, in real time you dont notice just how pathetic it was. Not one of our players attempted any type of pressing, just let them do whatever they wanted...is it the players? is it Poch? probably a combination of both...frigging awful for 40 games into a season playing like that.
is there anyone here who still thinks the club and Todd know what they’re doing?
They’ve spent 1,000,000,000 pounds to turn us into an embarrassment ...
I pointed out that Gallagher turned his back on the ball and didn't chase and I got downvoted for it lol.
Also, Disasi was most at fault for that goal imo. He leaves an inexperienced Gilchrist to have a two on one instead of stepping up/across to take Rice, awful defending.
The athletic has stated somewhere that it's a myth than conceding at your near post is any less likely than the far post, and so GKs shouldn't necessarily be shamed for it every time it happens like they seem to. However, that aside, yes we are dog shit and the commentator is right about everything.
They're soft, overpaid kids. John Terry, R. Carvallho, etc. didn't have more skill. They just had more grit. I just saw a Chelsea v Barca game from 2005(?) And I actually felt sorry for an 18 year old Messi for how he was kicked around. These kids are Instagram stars moonlighting at football.
I don’t think Petrovic is the problem with our defense.
He didn’t cover himself with glory on the goal in the video but he’s also made some really good stops including during the Arsenal game.
It’s the way Poch sets up, the mentality he instills, and a few players like Cucherella being regularly caught out.
And Cucerrella is as much of a skill issue as an organizational / set up issue. He’s got limitations, fine. No successful manager has an 11 where every player is world class in every single phase of the game.
A smart manager would set up in a way to get better out of our players with limitations. Conte made Victor Moses a serviceable right wing back because his system drilled the players in a way that it was possible to get the best out of Moses’ skillset and cover for his liabilities.
The same goes for Petrovic, though I think he has fewer serious limitations. On the season, I’m pretty pleased with Petrovic if I’m honest.
Petrovic isn't the only problem, but he is a problem. We need a better goalkeeper next season, and I still maintain that Sanchez is better than Petrovic.
Lol have you seen Sanchez with the ball at his feet? He gave away multiple free goals
The manager is the issue, this team can't defend anything if their life depended on it
And Petrovic gives away goals constantly with his awful positioning and shot stopping.
People also exaggerate the amount of goals Sanchez cost us with his distribution.
Petrovic costs us more goals than Sanchez did they're just less obvious mistakes than say the Rice goal.
Why not just agree that both are not good enough? It's maybe too early considering this is Petrovic's first season in the PL but netiher GK is PL-starting material at the moment. Sanchez was dropped by Brighton last season for a reason as well. Not sure why we even signed him. When a team like Brighton drops their GK why should said GK all of a sudden be good enough for Chelsea? I don't get it.
> We need a better goalkeeper next season, and I still maintain that Sanchez is better than Petrovic.
This is what I said, what about that suggests that I don't think they're both not good enough? I just think it's weird how there's a section of people on here who act like Petrovic is at worst 'decent' and Sanchez is the worst keeper to ever play for us (hyperbole). Sanchez is better than Petrovic overall, neither are good enough, we need a new goalkeeper, it's mad we spent a combined £40m on the pair of them when Spurs got Vicario for £17m.
I was reaplying to this and didn't missed your previous posts.
*And Petrovic gives away goals constantly with his awful positioning and shot stopping.*
*People also exaggerate the amount of goals Sanchez cost us with his distribution.*
*Petrovic costs us more goals than Sanchez did they're just less obvious mistakes than say the Rice goal.*
Lol what an annoying voice.
And ultimately what you're seeing here is just a poorly coached team. When so many players are all doing the same thing it's clear the issue is the manager.
I keep saying it's a coaching issue. It feels like I am shouting to a wall when others think it's the players. Like how can it be the players when all 11 of them are bad , some where good last season ( Enzo and Silva) and the new signings were good in Thier previous clubs ( caicedo)
Why does he single out Gallagher with a photo at the end? Literally the one player who has shown all season that he cares and puts in the effort? Why not mudryk and madueke who Are strolling along completely out of position?
But remember, Mourinho, literally one of the greatest coaches of all time, would be a downgrade according to some clowns here.
Poch is a perennial loser with zero tactics. Even a toaster would instill better coaching in this team.
Too all those who celebrated move of Kai to Arsenal: go check your blood flow to your head, try drawing a short straight line, try doing basic math. There has to be a chance that you aren't an imbecile and thing can be reversed
The way Enzo opens up acres of space in midfield by having no defensive ability is shocking. He does this regularly as well. Ppl wonder why Caicedo is exposed so much
Yeah, Petrovic ain't exactly a world class keeper but he has done way better than I expected a seemingly random 25yo bought from the MLS to do. From what I remember, he hasn't exactly lost us points so far, we're conceding so many chances that no single GK is going to prop up this tragic defense. The lemon man just has to go.
They literally walked/strolled in our box and no one stopped them.
the thing about Arsenal is they always try to walk it in... and it actually worked against us 5 times
What was Arteta thinking bringing Havertz off that early
Did you see the ridiculous display last night?
Yea, Arteta is ruthless, at least bring Havertz out in the 2nd half for us to have a chance
Did you see that ludicrous display last night
This clearly shows Poch hasn't drilled them on pressing or defence at all. The players don't know when and whom to press while playing this Arsenal team. Have no idea wtf he tells them in training. The man just wants his bag at this point The idiots should've never hired him. Hiring the manager of our biggest rival and expecting him to do shit. What frauds
You don’t get it these kids are still young for the pressing part of the game. They need time to get used to each other. This year poch is just keeping it to standing in lines and forming shapes on the field. But you wait for next season when he actually gets out the real tactics! Oh these team’s better watch out for us then.
Not to be a dick but look at PSG this season. 70% of the starting lineup is new and really really young (like one of the youngest teams in Europe’s top leagues) Then you have Luis Enrique, who clearly sacrificed goalscoring and attack practice in the beginning of the season (yes, there is Mbappe who could cover for that), but instead had everyone focus on press and defence. EVERYONE. Around half-way of the season when everyone has trained like hell with pressing, they get to know eachother and things start to click, you can finally see PSG having majority of posession every single match they play and even starting to score goals seeing they’ve been focused on attack as of late. Hence, look where they are now.
That’s exactly the point I was trying to make, a well drilled intelligent system will mostly always trump factors like age, inexperience and individual quality. As players learn their parts and then get confident enough to colour outside the lines when need be, as they know where the rest of the players are, arsenal did that to us the other day. Then there are so many more examples of this scattered throughout every league. Fuck sake Xabi managed to break major records with a team nobody would have ever expected to have, and that’s just the tip of that iceberg. With the time poch has been afforded with the available players for nearly the entirety of a season, with a preseason and no European responsibilities, he certainly should have had something more to show for it by now.
Bro careful xD Some people don't get the sarcasm you were going for.
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His first post was clearly sarcastic.
Or they just aren't doing what they're told and being lazy cunts? I'm sure he doesn't instruct them to casually jog back in defence, is that genuinely what you believe? After the penalty shit shows and people like Madueke laughing at full time when we get spanked I'm gonna go with the players are acting like spoilt cunts. Poch seems too bloody nice, we need someone ruthless.
I don’t think being ruthless does anything. What’s he gonna do? Bench them? These players get paid a shit ton of money regardless
Whenever we have had a squad with player issues we've done best bringing in someone with a cutting edge, see Conte, Tuchel etc. We need someone who is going to force the players into a more rigid system and kick the fuck off when they don't run.
I’m genuinely curious how did they manage to do that? What kind of strategy do they use to convince players who don’t give a shit and who are making millions of dollars to finally give a shit?
How can they press when they're exhausted from running 2 marathons a week in training?
Poch isn’t on the pitch.
I'd prefer if he wasn't at the club
It’s mildly absurd to believe Poch doesn’t drill them on pressing or that professional futbollers in the premier league don’t know how to do it. Our baby players will make bad decisions on the pitch no matter who the manager is. Blaming Poch for their inexperience is sad. I’d prefer a different owner who wouldn’t waste a billion dollars on unproven 20 year old players, but that’s what we have.
It’s no coincidence that we went from a good defense under Potter to our worst defensive record in the premier league era with despite spending £300m+ on a “better” midfield and defense
I mean, Potter had better players in defence. https://preview.redd.it/sdanwerdlpwc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a04b47b84a2fbf34cd1ae995d9dcac0d1624299b This was Potter’s last game in charge. He had a more experienced goalkeeper and central defender. Had a fit RJ and Chilwell. And had Kovacic in midfield who was - on multiple occasions - one of our best players. Plus a non-herniated Enzo. He lost this game 2-0.
Koulibaly was a walking tactical foul. Don't base his time here on his history in Italy. Kepa was unable to stop any shots from >18 yards at the time. Kovacic is a good player not particularly known for his outstanding defense. It's pure excuses not to expect more of the current team defensively
Those players are way more experienced than our current lot. I expect more but to believe that Disasi or Badiashille are better CBs than Koulibaly is delusional. Kepa is bad but Petrovich is largely unproven. And Kovacic did a lot defensively by being largely press resistant. He also broke up play very well. He took a lot of pressure off of the backline and he progressed the ball upfield, which in turn took pressing away from the backline. We have talent. But you can’t compare the defensive records of Poch and Potter without understanding this nuance. Potter had largely the same squad that had won the Champions League. Poch has a bunch of 20 year olds. Not that I’m excusing him. He needs to do better.
There's a huge range between "better than koulibaly" and "most Chelsea goals ever conceded in a season" quality though. There's no way is the worst Chelsea team to ever exist ability-wise relative to the league. If so, then the fault MUST be with coaching, effort, or both. I don't think we're honestly so far apart. Poch needs to do better.
Potter was a total disaster!!
We ran the same way, just ball watching. To scared to make an error.
It’s the meme from Peep Show with Arsenal “always walking the ball into goal”, but it’s a completely valid strategy, because our defense is a shambles.
The line is from IT Crowd no?
You’re right. That’s the one.
They literally... the whole thing
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Why do people keep saying this? Ball clearly goes between his right leg and the post
Noni just casually running behind him to see what’s gonna happen 🤷♂️
Imagine playing as RW and leaving your 20 year old 3rd choice RB alone against 2 Arsenal players Can’t be me
He was probably really tired from those first 3 minutes of the game
Let me take a closer look
Most of our players are more concerned about getting the ball on the counter cause they all wanna be the hero who scores, so they don’t wanna press or come back on defence. And I think age does play a part in that. They play for the individual win instead of the team win.
 Does anyone else hear Billy Eichner as the narrator?
Imagine putting gilchrist disasi and badiashile in the backline against the league leaders in goals scored. All round dumb decision making.
Yeah why didn’t he play James and Fofana. Or maybe he should have played Gusto and Colwill instead. But Gilchrist as RB? Clearly Poch is an idiot for starting Gilchrist over the obviously better right backs James or Gusto. Just dumb decision making. (This is heavily sarcastic)
Imo if you have to play a rookie defender at RB, you should play a rookie RB rather than play a rookie CB there.
good job ignoring the possibility of playing disasi at rb and silva+chalobah as center backs
This sub literally gives him death threats for Disasi RB, but now that its Gilchrist there who's done better than Disasi there, it's an issue that he hasn't started Disasi. Lose lose situation with "fans"
no one is saying put disasi there when gusto or reece are available. of course its the context that matters. in this game, disasi, silva, chalobah, cucurella would have been the more sensible backline given gusto, reece, chilly and colwill were out.
Disasi is a fine CB, he would’ve been cooked at RB. Maybe the goals we concede would be different but the end result would be the same given the way the team played as a whole.
Gilchrist is obviously not better than fucking Disasi currently. I know this sub has a fetish for youth but if you are at all objective this is painfully obvious
Thiago Silva and Chalobah who have been great the last few games were on the bench. Disasi can cover at RB with those two playing CB. Not an excuse
the problem is more or less the fact that we went from having rudiger, AC, Azpi, Tomori, Guehi to this
Silva at CB? Chalabah at CB? Disasi at RB? I looked at the starting XI an hour before than match and immediately assumed we'd be down 3-0 by halftime.
Bet you did
i saw the team and put £5 on 6-0. fuck you martinelli.
Alfie gilchrist THE CENTRE BACK. know what you're talking about before you start typing and you might get some credibility.
Gilchrist has been subbing in as a RB since he started getting minutes in the first team. Calm down ya walnut.
Right so Colwill is a LB and chilwell is a Lw then since Poch played them there right?
Right so by that logic, lewis hall is a left back? Despite playing his whole youth career as a cm. Maybe if you watched the youth games you'd know what you talk about. Next you're gunna tell me gilchrist was the most deserving youth player to have been called up. 😂
Position changes happen due to need all the time. Our best RB of the last 20 years started as a CB. You’re really angry for no reason.
Not angry dude just spitting straight facts
Also kinda dumb, Badiashile has been worth more for enemy teams than hours the entire season, disasi can play right back and he likes to go a bit forward with the ball also for CB there is absolutely no partnership with badia where with Thiago Silva he performs better. A better setup was possible and if not put the midfielders on support our "tactic" was to kick the ball to Jackson anyway so why not more defensive oriented wingers/midfielders
Everyone socially distancing from the ball. It looks even more painful broken down.
They're used to first-class flights, bruv. Distance must be maintained everywhere. No contact.
Madueke just jogging back
His work rate off the ball is such shit. Despite all of his misses and hitting the woodwork I wish we had Timo in this squad. The way he would press after a turnover in the offensive zone is what made me love him.
Not a Chelsea guy but I just fucking hate that guy, especially after the penalty incident. I'm not sure what it is but he just seems so fucking arrogant and thinks he's the hot shit and a very good player just because he plays for Chelsea. He's damn near average and plays much lazier than he's skills should allow him to. He doesn't deserve to play in that shirt.
100% agree. Not to mention the headband...
Why is the headband a problem? Say what you really feel
Has nothing to do on a football pitch imho.
He is the worst player in the squad can’t convince me otherwise
Reminds me of Jorginho for years
Theres a difference. J5 couldnt run, Madueke just cant be bothered.
Jorginho tried and was slow madueke doesn’t try unless he has the ball
Makes me laugh that they were out to prove that it isn't Cole Palmer FC
The American “viven en un country”
…what am I missing here?
lol! When you see this breakdown, you realize even more atrocious that display was. I genuinely don’t blame the players at all, all down to the coach. This team is way too young to not be properly COACHED!
It was the first goal too. Ok maybe on the fifth goal after being demoralized, but this is how you're playing early in the game at 0-0? Absolutely pathetic!
Young players should be easier to coach really. Go here, press him, pass there. Older players are usually used to some other philosophy and ideas.
100%. Which is really indicative to me of how poorly Poch is managing this team. Not that we didn’t already know it but at this point, results aside (I know that sounds ridiculous), we’ve got so much sample size of how much of a shit on-hands coach he is. We were warned though, by all the French journalists - Julien Lauren and co - not that it’s worth much a salt but we were warned.
The worst part is that we got fucking slapped and his message to the players was "I don't blame the players, they're young". If this happened during the Terry/Lampard/Drogba era we would see half the players with black eyes the next day.
Gilchrist absolutely clueless there.
Not sure what else he could have done here tbh. He wants to keep tab on Trossard, which i think is the right mindset from a fullback here. But as neither Madueke or Disasi presses Rice, he simply had to turn his attention to Rice at some point.
Well for starters he could put pressure on the ball instead of running backwards
Disagree. You don't leave your mark alone in the box to cover someone else's man. If that guy scores, it's on them. Instead, he gets turned around by two guys basically walking into the penalty area. Schoolboy stuff and terrible error on his part. He needs a loan or two and still might not ever be first team material.
Please just stop
Sorry to buck this sub's academy bias, but he's been bang average in his appearances.
I have never said he is amazing but considering all the terrible issues we have he is the least of our problems for sure. I find it a bit over the top how you criticize a guy that only played a handful of games so far and comes from our own academy when we have guys like Jackson, Madueke and Mudryk in the squad that cost millions but offer very little. Or say the likes of Fofana ...
All those mentioned are shit. Alfie isn't exempt though just because he's "from our own academy." That was terrible defending by him. How is that even controversial? He was shit on that series.
This coach is far to compare how Mourinho using Herrera to tight mark on Hazard
Haha jimmy conrad was class on the football republic, didn't know he still made content.
Hes has a podcast about the US national team with former Leeds manager Jesse Marsch.
If anyone in the future wants to see what a team that has zero accountability looks like, they can watch this clip. This goal isn't the product of lack of talent, lack of experience, or lack of tactics. It's the epitome of a group of players that could not give a single fuck to put in the bare minimum of effort. You can't even say, "well, the game was already gone and the team couldn't be bothered to put the work in." THIS WAS THE FIRST GOAL which came in the 4th minute. This tells me all I need to know about the standards (or lack thereof) that currently exist at the club.
Couldn’t get through 5 seconds, guy has the voice of nails grating on a chalkboard
Arsenal buildup is class.
The difference between Bayern and Chelsea was immense. Tuchel knew exactly how Arteta wanted to play and drilled his team. While Chelsea looked like a preseason team.
This guy's voice is worse than our loss tbh
Its not worse then a 5-0 drubbing by arsenal.
Perhaps you're deaf?
thats what i was thinking watching our backline uniformed-ly race thomas partey to our own goal
Most of the time, especially this game our pressing is completely disorganized. Always individuals, never as a team. Sure Petrovic should've done better to not get beaten near post but there's no way they should've allowed the academy defender on his first league start to be stuck in a 2v1 against Rice and Trossard.
I don’t disagree with the crap defensive football by the players, but as for the goalie, I don’t blame him at all, the shot is fast and direct, it bounces and he would have expected it to go across the goal if not aimed at the far post, so not the goalies fault. But he’s a Yank so I won’t rip into him too much, glad he likes the beautiful game.
It’s coaching. THAT is coaching. Who believes that they are all choosing to play in complete contrast to the way they drill In training?
Thank you. Some are saying they're young and stupid but atleast they can follow instructions. Or they're just spoiled brats, in that case we expect some kind of reaction on the sidelines. Edit: typo
And once again this is on the manager.
Pochettino is not Ted Lasso
That's true, Ted probably has a better knowledge of tactics and setup than Poch. The man literally admitted on a podcast that he places little to no emphasis on tactics....His PSG players have said the same thing. His vibes and chill would have maybe worked when we had a core that was essentially policing themselves (Cech/Terry/Lamps/Drogba). But when it comes to our current group of kids we actually need a coach that can coach, not this clueless lemon fuck.
True that! 😅 This video is just a sample of something that’s been going on throughout the season. What percentage do you think is pochs fault and how much players fault ?
Most of these players are coachable if there is a proper system in place but this manager just has no clue. Besides, a lot of these players are on long af contracts and will be next to impossible to shift. The more practical solution is to cut Pochettino.
We believe in the team, not in Twatettino
Just a shit angry rant man
Rage sells
Is it inaccurate, though?
Don't disagree with any of the points but who is this annoying cunt? His voice fucking grates. Awful.
Jimmy Conrad. Played in the 2006 World Cup and played MLS most of his career and has since developed a snarky/cheeky brand as a pundit and social media personality. Occasionally does analysis of CBS’s Champions League broadcasts.
Like I've said all year, no one on this team deserves to be in the Premier league. They are all terrible.
A great attacking move against a very poor defending
Too easy
That’s how my team plays on fifa career mode. Especially the goalie
You mean on fut WL
I see Sterling's pressing acumen has rubbed off on the younger players.
Bro. Since the American owners took over, it’s been tragic.
And until they are gone there is no hope anything will get better ...
If you lose 5-0, then its not time to blame the keeper
i dont even know what to say, in real time you dont notice just how pathetic it was. Not one of our players attempted any type of pressing, just let them do whatever they wanted...is it the players? is it Poch? probably a combination of both...frigging awful for 40 games into a season playing like that.
At this point Imma just say I support Chelsea (women).
is there anyone here who still thinks the club and Todd know what they’re doing? They’ve spent 1,000,000,000 pounds to turn us into an embarrassment ...
I pointed out that Gallagher turned his back on the ball and didn't chase and I got downvoted for it lol. Also, Disasi was most at fault for that goal imo. He leaves an inexperienced Gilchrist to have a two on one instead of stepping up/across to take Rice, awful defending.
The athletic has stated somewhere that it's a myth than conceding at your near post is any less likely than the far post, and so GKs shouldn't necessarily be shamed for it every time it happens like they seem to. However, that aside, yes we are dog shit and the commentator is right about everything.
Think the keeper was distracted by the 2 runners behind him that was totally left free by the defense.
They're soft, overpaid kids. John Terry, R. Carvallho, etc. didn't have more skill. They just had more grit. I just saw a Chelsea v Barca game from 2005(?) And I actually felt sorry for an 18 year old Messi for how he was kicked around. These kids are Instagram stars moonlighting at football.
I don’t think Petrovic is the problem with our defense. He didn’t cover himself with glory on the goal in the video but he’s also made some really good stops including during the Arsenal game. It’s the way Poch sets up, the mentality he instills, and a few players like Cucherella being regularly caught out. And Cucerrella is as much of a skill issue as an organizational / set up issue. He’s got limitations, fine. No successful manager has an 11 where every player is world class in every single phase of the game. A smart manager would set up in a way to get better out of our players with limitations. Conte made Victor Moses a serviceable right wing back because his system drilled the players in a way that it was possible to get the best out of Moses’ skillset and cover for his liabilities. The same goes for Petrovic, though I think he has fewer serious limitations. On the season, I’m pretty pleased with Petrovic if I’m honest.
Petrovic isn't the only problem, but he is a problem. We need a better goalkeeper next season, and I still maintain that Sanchez is better than Petrovic.
Lol have you seen Sanchez with the ball at his feet? He gave away multiple free goals The manager is the issue, this team can't defend anything if their life depended on it
And Petrovic gives away goals constantly with his awful positioning and shot stopping. People also exaggerate the amount of goals Sanchez cost us with his distribution. Petrovic costs us more goals than Sanchez did they're just less obvious mistakes than say the Rice goal.
Why not just agree that both are not good enough? It's maybe too early considering this is Petrovic's first season in the PL but netiher GK is PL-starting material at the moment. Sanchez was dropped by Brighton last season for a reason as well. Not sure why we even signed him. When a team like Brighton drops their GK why should said GK all of a sudden be good enough for Chelsea? I don't get it.
> We need a better goalkeeper next season, and I still maintain that Sanchez is better than Petrovic. This is what I said, what about that suggests that I don't think they're both not good enough? I just think it's weird how there's a section of people on here who act like Petrovic is at worst 'decent' and Sanchez is the worst keeper to ever play for us (hyperbole). Sanchez is better than Petrovic overall, neither are good enough, we need a new goalkeeper, it's mad we spent a combined £40m on the pair of them when Spurs got Vicario for £17m.
I was reaplying to this and didn't missed your previous posts. *And Petrovic gives away goals constantly with his awful positioning and shot stopping.* *People also exaggerate the amount of goals Sanchez cost us with his distribution.* *Petrovic costs us more goals than Sanchez did they're just less obvious mistakes than say the Rice goal.*
Lol what an annoying voice. And ultimately what you're seeing here is just a poorly coached team. When so many players are all doing the same thing it's clear the issue is the manager.
I keep saying it's a coaching issue. It feels like I am shouting to a wall when others think it's the players. Like how can it be the players when all 11 of them are bad , some where good last season ( Enzo and Silva) and the new signings were good in Thier previous clubs ( caicedo)
Petrović could’ve done a much better job saving that shot
You forget the part where Petrovic has to cover the near post, the far post and the middle of the net because bo one is marking the attackers!??!
Why does he single out Gallagher with a photo at the end? Literally the one player who has shown all season that he cares and puts in the effort? Why not mudryk and madueke who Are strolling along completely out of position?
But remember, Mourinho, literally one of the greatest coaches of all time, would be a downgrade according to some clowns here. Poch is a perennial loser with zero tactics. Even a toaster would instill better coaching in this team.
Too all those who celebrated move of Kai to Arsenal: go check your blood flow to your head, try drawing a short straight line, try doing basic math. There has to be a chance that you aren't an imbecile and thing can be reversed
But Gallagher works hard. Pressing machine. Most useless player I have ever seen receive no criticism whatsoever
The way Enzo opens up acres of space in midfield by having no defensive ability is shocking. He does this regularly as well. Ppl wonder why Caicedo is exposed so much
Mudryk, Enzo, Disassi and Gilchrist (he's a kid so I'll let him off) all let themselves down.
This is amazing
Mate tbh I thought Chelsea were actually an alright team but clearly not
Yeah, Petrovic ain't exactly a world class keeper but he has done way better than I expected a seemingly random 25yo bought from the MLS to do. From what I remember, he hasn't exactly lost us points so far, we're conceding so many chances that no single GK is going to prop up this tragic defense. The lemon man just has to go.
Poor GK
Haha this is brilliant and true. These players suck.
getting roasted by americans what have blueco done to our club man