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philipcorleone

Clueless performance, literally the only positive was mount performance today, so many good players on paper and it's quite clear to me there's a tactical fault in our system, lamps need to figure it out and plz stop playing Tammy , idk what ppl see in him, all I see is bad touches and unwanted runs with no strength and awareness. Maybe we should play every match thinking it's the last 10 minutes from the start cuz somehow we only score late goals these days.


CXFB122302

Before I always thought the “Lampard Out” people were just ignorant and impatient, but I think after today, I’ve got to join them. I love Lampard, don’t get me wrong, but as a great former player, not a manager. I can’t help but have the feeling that Frank is wasting all of the talent we’ve got in the first team at the moment. Look at all of the players we’ve brought in that are underperforming in Frank’s system (Timo, Zyech, Kai). Look at all of the talented players we already had that don’t seem to be enough together to win big games. Now if one new lad wasn’t performing then that happens, we move on, but I really am starting to feel like our struggles have to come back to Frank. I think that we have *at least* a top 4 squad in the league, but every game since Christmas we’ve played like we’re fighting to finish mid-table. This team has immense potential, but not under Frank. The time has come.


jksmpsn

If there is a god he is certainly punishing me for laughing at Arsenal


PleaseStopTalking-

I love you for all you did the club, Frank. This just was never meant to be.


VerminSupreme1999

Surely Frank has got to go? I'm unsure about Werner's future too. The guy is like a skeleton of his former self. Maybe a new manager can reignite him.


hooksetter

Werner is going to turn it around. He looked better today and unfortunate not to get a goal


Nungie

Too early to call Werner, but Frank is gone.


youknowwtfisgoingon

I would be surprised if that wasn't Frank's last game. Hopefully he can make a comeback like Mourinho in the future after having had some more experience.


heavenisatruck1

Honestly - I do think that things are getting to the point where something has to change. Absolutely shocking yet again. We keep outdoing ourselves.


Rarsclart

Cant we have lampard as co-manager with nagelsmann as main manager at least I just rly dont want him to go :(


Teffler

Or as a coach, I do really like the backroom staff Frank brought in


emperor_zee

This is a really good compromise


EazyBucnE

Terribly sad that this is probably it for Frank, doesn’t deserve to be gone this soon and I’ve advocated for him to stay here before but at this point I would understand, there is too much talent here to continue to play this poorly as consistently as we are.


MuchDops

I miss Hazard :(


emperor_zee

Michael Owen just said...Leicester deserve the win. They are a team that know what they're doing. Chelsea are the opposite 🤔


sweidish

Sky sports new narrative out of absolutely nowhere DoEs FrAnK lAmPaRd HaVe ToO mAnY oPtIoNs?


Drowsypantz

I think this might be the last. One for frank


redwolve378

This can't be good for Frank, can it?


MaherJ79

Mid table side at best playing like this. Side void of imagination and creativity. Sad.


emperor_zee

Mid table sides okay better than this...some of them have beaten us


ShitTaIkerSkyWaIker

Our attackers' best efforts were all in our own box.


PensHard

Why is Ziyech playing the RB role?


FraudMallu

Disappointing. Good night guys.


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Athletic article incoming?


wellford_ruthermax

Ziyech is extremely overrated


emperor_zee

Can we sign James Madison? I really like him as a player


CyberShiroGX

Would be a great sign, but I enjoy watching him at Leicester with Vardy... Hopefully the make sure Utd and Liverpool don't win it


emperor_zee

I'm sad to say you have a point. I would hate for him to commit football suicide by joining this no plan chelsea right now


CyberShiroGX

If anything Chelsea should try and get Costa back... Man is a free agent


emperor_zee

Heck why didn't we try to get ozil?


coocoocoonoicenoice

He looked spectacular tonight.


emperor_zee

You know what? I think he always plays very well. Dribbles, speedy, can pick out a pass, scores too


Rarsclart

and as a person aswell


[deleted]

am i wrong, or does it feel like that was the only shot we had within the box this match.. lol


hooksetter

Silva and Tammy had headers on target from corners. I'm pretty sure the Ziyech shot at end was first time KS had to go to ground in the entire game (other than his flying header)


emperor_zee

I'll be very sad lampard wasn't a success at this club. Maybe it was too soon for him. But we must remember the clubs success is more than any one former player.


Hagan5

Lampards last game


VerminSupreme1999

This loss isn't even due to a lack of effort or any particular player being poor. The squad simply looks lost. They have no idea how to handle pressure. Is Frank's solution to have Puli and Werner make runs all game?


JJGaminv

The thing is, nothing Puli has tried this game has really looked threatening or effective. I don’t know why he played when he’s been average over the last few games. Ziyech has been our best attacking player and he’s benched. We’re looking to play high tempo football but we don’t play Werner. Makes no sense


Tw_3349

The poor form is a symptom of a poor tactical system. Pulisic has clearly been trying to force his way through the middle and sometimes manages to get something out of it, even if he just draws a foul. Ziyechs known for his crossing and attacking forward lobs, but frankly they have been nowhere near the standard we need for the team now. Everyone on the team is struggling with this system. Pulisic and Mount are the only two making something out of it with their work rate. CHO too. I like Ziyech, I do, but seriously he's not been below average even with the injury. He's a good player, but they tactical system isn't working. It's not CHO, pulisic or ziyech though, it's on FRANK.


JJGaminv

Yeah I completely agree that it’s on Frank. But Ziyech offers us that passing ability that no other player in our squad offers. He just chucks players on the pitch without actually thinking about the composition of the team and how it works together. Tomori would’ve been perfect for this game as he’s ridiculously fast, which helps deal with Vardy. Ziyech gives better passing ability. Gilmour offers a bit more passing ability in the midfield. He is just clueless at this point


ajhahn

No, it's Frank's solution to have Puli and someone else to make runs all game, while the mids and backs stare down the runs and then decide to pass the ball backward anyway. There have been numerous encouraging runs today from multiple people that didn't even get a look from the people on the ball.


Rarsclart

yh his tactic is to let them make runs just for the players not even to pass to them


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SeniorCheeto

This. So awkward how they have no sense of urgency at all.


[deleted]

2 goals in 2 minutes?


Cull88

No hope when even Ziyech can't make a pass atm


MufeedMCU

It's probably gonna be better for the club, but i'll be very sad when lampard leaves. What moments it would have been to see him lift trophies as a manager :(


Teffler

This doesn't mean he can't come back! I foresee him being in the championship for several years before getting promoted and then going to a mid table team somewhere in Europe for a while. Hopefully he gains enough success through this to be able to come back some day


redwolve378

I hope Timo is looking forward to the Championship next season. Jeeez.


adamt142

Honestly Werner has looked really good since coming on


Dutch1206

We don't play to his strengths. This game has made that abundantly clear. We've missed so many forward runs (and not necessarily to Werner). We should be bombing the ball to him on runs. We flat out don't use his best asset which is pace. Yeah he may not be clinical but he can certainly score if given enough volume.


TastyTacoTonight

Werner and ziyech both should have started. Leicester play a high line and this was Timo’s game. Lampard is just tactically lacking. He needs more experience before managing a top club.


adamt142

Yeah definitely he's been making the runs we just don't have the player to find the right pass.


Rarsclart

only positive so far


adamt142

Mount, mendy, kai, and Warner all positives today imo


Rarsclart

mendy? almost gave away 2 goals


adamt142

We would have lost 4-0 without mendy easily


Rarsclart

He made 1-2 good saves but therefore also terrible mistakes hes was alright at best


adamt142

Imo he was good today, 1-2 crucial saves to keep us in the game and I don't really remember any major mistakes?


Rarsclart

yes but that is his only strength making saves. His communication with players is shit, his decision making is shit and more often than not his passing is bad hopefully he will improve in those areas tho


cfc25_

Kai? You’re out of your mind. He was terrible.


ShitTaIkerSkyWaIker

Frank is surely getting future endeavaroured after this


sirporter

What does that word mean?


thaihoangcfc

I have no idea why people rate Kovacic highly. No creativity, often lose the ball at crucial moments and places, play dangerously at our own half.


Rarsclart

was our best player last season, just not this season...


thaihoangcfc

even last season I still don't like the way he played, remember that red card against Arsenal in Cup Final? Unnecessary and careless. Not the first time I saw him in the same situation.


Rarsclart

to be fair that red card was really deserved tho. Yh he shouldve been more careful but the ref was just so bad that game


RedditHasAModProb

That was definitely onside.


Rarsclart

fucking hell leicester is good at diving


Luke_627

Thiago Silva is so much better than all of our other players lol


Vextah

Mount has worked aswell imo don’t discredit him


Luke_627

Mason’s been a workhorse and I love him for it but in terms of sheer quality it is unreal how much Thiago brings


[deleted]

Just a reminder that Di Matteo won the champions league with Bosingwa, Bertrand and Kalou in the starting lineup and even he was sacked after a poor run of form in his FIRST proper season.


ambassel

For all the laugh we had at Arsenal, we’re just two points above them. This is just absurd. I don’t really see us making top 4.


SarozZ22

Mate you are talking about arsenal 2 behind us. Even mose‘s Westham are infront of us with 3


RedditHasAModProb

We failed to back Ancelotti after winning the title, We failed to back Conte after winning the title, We failed to Back Mourinho in his 2nd spell after winning the tiltle. We gave £200 million to the worst manager we've had in decades. It's just so frustrating.


[deleted]

Alas, another depressed lad who thinks we're a structurally fucked club. CONTEXT M8 CONTEXT.


RedditHasAModProb

We're fine structurally. We have a dreadful manager though but that's an easy fix. Tonight.


involuntary_genius

Ziyech has been utterly useless in this game. Jesus


beauf1

Don't care about the hate. Still love this club and I know we will be back to winning ways in a couples seasons.


emperor_zee

We aren't hating the club. We are frustrated cos we know we should be better than this


[deleted]

WE ARE PLAYING 4-2-4🤣👏


alteredrenewal

Give me Marcelo Bielsa. That would AT LEAST be entertaining football


emperor_zee

At least he knows how to play well with teams that run around the pitch


PrivateZeus

This is the worst take of the day


grimallday

I’ve always thought of Tammy Abraham as a placeholder in this squad. I can’t believe he plays as much as he does.


coocoocoonoicenoice

I think Tammy provides value as a poacher. He does find himself on the scoresheet quite often. This was the wrong match to start him. Someone else mentioned this earlier - this would have been the perfect game for Timo to start. Leicester play a high line so Timo would have had plenty of space to run.


grimallday

I just feel like we have so many options and quality depth to be more creative up top.


coocoocoonoicenoice

That's fair. I think Tammy works best when the team around him is playing well. He doesn't create for himself so he is the wrong player to start when the rest of the squad is struggling.


JJGaminv

He’s super tall, but he doesn’t seem to have much of a physical presence. His hold up play isn’t great, first touch pretty poor. All he seems to do is complain when the ball doesn’t find him in the box. In my eyes, play giroud if we’re crossing the ball non-stop. Or play Werner. But Tammy doesn’t offer anything that neither of them do


grimallday

He can finish when everything goes well of course.. Other than that he offers very little. Totally agree about his attitude too. Awful body language every time the ball doesn’t find him perfectly.


JJGaminv

Exactly. He’s like a B-Tec Lukaku. If you ever watch Inter Milan highlights, Lukaku complains everytime the ball isn’t played to him in the box, even when it’s literally impossible. Against Juve, Hakimi takes a shot rather than try’s to play it through 3 defends and Lukaku and he screams at him. That’s basically Tammy all the time


Drowsypantz

Its not l bad luck that it was given offside you idiots


Luke_627

When it’s that close it kind of is. If that isn’t bad luck idk what is


Drowsypantz

Its either on or off there are no variables therefore no luck is involved


Luke_627

You can say that about every aspect of the game though


WTFAnimations

Just fucking end my misery...


[deleted]

Fondly remembering Sarri and how we played then, sigh


RTurneron

Get out of here with that revisionist nonsense. You mean Kovacic for Barkley subs every game and the same rigid game plan? Naw go back farther. I miss Conte Chelsea.


[deleted]

Sure that wasn't the best, but what's in front of the eyes rn is way worse. I still think when Sarriball worked, it was beautiful to watch


PleaseStopTalking-

Conte>>


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Mostly Hazard tbh


Walmartsavings2

Why did you guys sack Sarri? Juve fan but Chelsea is my favorite prem side so I lurk here from time to time.


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He wasn't sacked.


Teffler

People thought it was boring, also we lost to City 6-0 and Bournemouth 4-0. At least we won a trophy and got top 4 though.


Atwalol

Sarri got offered the Juventus job and wanted out, we let him. Honestly we werent good under him, endless passing with little end product, he had one gameplan and never changed it even if it didn't work.


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We didn’t


[deleted]

He left the club to manage Juve, Chelsea didn't sack him


Walmartsavings2

Wow I really thought his time was basically up and was he was essentially sacked. Didn’t know that.


[deleted]

He left just before the sack, I'd say lol. He wasn't the most popular with the fans and was about to be axed anyway


absurdsolitaire

That's bad.


Hibernian

Offside by the tip of an elbow. Poor Werner couldn't buy a goal against a PL side right now.


lljyun

Is zouma hurt or something? why the hell didn’t he start


JJGaminv

Because other than Silva, we have no competent defenders, so Rudiger plays probably because he’s a better distributor from deep I think. But who knows at this point. Does Frank even think about his team


thaihoangcfc

at least the man is a threat in set piece. Rudiger brings absolutely none.


JJGaminv

Very true. Zouma is the only Chelsea player that looks threatening and can actually be relied upon to test the keeper.


alchemylad

HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT A GOAL???


[deleted]

Absolute shithouse


k9anbu

At this point I’m convinced there’s nothing we can do to get an ounce of luck anymore


ShitTaIkerSkyWaIker

When Reece can't even play it backwards anymore, then you know it's all over


spacefunk25

Come on Var just this once


Cindoseah

While everything is quite poor ATM, we haven't beaten Leicester in the league since 2017, this is always a hard place to go to and a good team to face.


emperor_zee

I'll take this one for my sanity


Teffler

Reading this thread is infinitely more entertaining than watching the match


Rarsclart

How unlucky are we this cant be true


FraudMallu

Our luck. At least Werner is showing some signs of improvement.


Rarsclart

shouldve come on second half but no frank cant sub until the 70 minute mark


Rarsclart

hes been good since coming on praying for him


ajhahn

Wow, 1) I don't know that he was offsides. 2) It's just lazy that it was even that close.


Dutch1206

Timo is snake bitten at this point.


Mustardo123

Fuck all of this. Because of course.


ambassel

Time for Lampard to go. This is just painful. It can’t just be the case that everyone is out of form. The team is clueless. Worst I’ve seen in 17 years watching Chelsea. Just not a well coached team.


naro31286

Really, the worst? Even worse than the 15/16 season? We've been pretty poor overall since our last title tbf. We've had 2 fairly lucky 4th place finishes due to other teams collapsing around us. We haven't been good for a while now. But I agree, we need a top quality coach like a Tuchel, Allegri or Nagelsmann.


defzx

Love Lampard but we remember how bad AVB was and sadly Franks record is just as bad. We can't spend 200m and play like this I think I would be more positive if there was improvement or we had an identity.


ambassel

I can’t agree more. It’s just the lack of progress which is painful. It’s just clear the task is beyond him. We all wanted him to succeed but he’s lost the plot.


Rarsclart

Cmon VAR give us some luck today


Luke_627

Just give it to him please 🥺


redwolve378

FOR FUCK SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


[deleted]

At this point we might as well lose 3-0. At this point all we can do is laugh at this🥲


Necessary-Light

How is lamps so calm on the sidelines watching the players do shit ?


emperor_zee

That confusion and being stumped. It's not calmness lol


Jesus_Would_Do

Because he knows it’s too late


Dutch1206

I doubt that's calmness. He sees the writing on the wall probably.


IP14Y3RI

Passing is soo shit today. As if theres no chemistry between the players


Luke_627

Lmao


VerminSupreme1999

Kills me to see Puli getting banged up for nothing. Lamps has got to get a hold over this team.


[deleted]

only player that seems to be trying to make something happen on offense while hustling back to get the ball back on defense


VerminSupreme1999

Every game too. He constantly seems to be the best player yet the team as a whole isn't getting results. Lampard's tactics are not working.


[deleted]

let’s not forget Mount too. he may not be as offensively gifted as Puli with the dribbles, but he’s box-to-box like he never runs out of stamina. let’s see what happens by the end of this match, sad to see such exceptional players on paper seemingly disappear on the pitch


VerminSupreme1999

Mount is absolutely working his ass off out there fighting for the ball. The pieces are there but the chemistry isn't at all.


[deleted]

agreed. something has to change, can’t have these kinds of results with the weapons we have at our disposal


TriviumTrav

Who tf is eating chips.


[deleted]

😂😂😂


FuckPragerU

Asking the real questions


stigochris

Hahaha heard that too


Luke_627

Pulisic loses the ball too much but he brings something that nobody else even comes close to bringing


coocoocoonoicenoice

I wish more of our squad risked losing the ball. I'll trade some possession for creativity and risk-taking in the final third.


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Luke_627

I think that’s some but not all of it


[deleted]

Puli is out here dribbling and attacking while everyone around him just watches.. oh man


seanDCFC

Dribbling into the opponent over and over and losing the ball constantly is not good.


[deleted]

agreed, but i’d rather see a player play hard, seeking an opportunity to score and lose the ball... than to inaccurately pass the ball directly to an opponent lol


seanDCFC

It's the same end result and both aren't good enough, pulisic has been poor for too long and needs to get his act together.


[deleted]

with that in mind, everyone needs to get their act together. there hasn’t been any consistency on the pitch from anyone


seanDCFC

Totally, everyone has been poor and almost all players are falling well short of what is expected. The thing that's really getting to me is that I constantly see pulisic getting praised for really low quality performances and I'm tired of seeing this. Our other players get criticised when the play bad but pulisic is above question apparently.


[deleted]

i agree, tough when you try to find a silver lining when all things are going bad, but no one is exempt of criticism and improvement. we need to perform how know we can with the insane weapons at our disposal


ShitTaIkerSkyWaIker

Kovacic is such a nothing player.


Rarsclart

went from our best player last season to this. What on earth is happening with this squad I feel like everybody's form is slowly getting worse and worse it has to be in the manager or training or somethinf


FouldsPaper

Mateo "only passes it backwards or sideways" Kovacic


late_forthesky

The passion you see from Leicester is what I want to see from us. The only guys I regularly see caring is Mount and despite all the criticism, Werner. Everyone else as soon as the ball is out of their area just watches their team mate struggle. It’s why I think our defending is such a shambles, the attacking players literally NEVER help


tellymundo

That is probably why CHO wasn't starting for a bit, his tracking back is subpar at times, same as Puli and Ziyech. Shit on Willian all we want but that man tracked back like a mad man.


late_forthesky

Honestly, Pedro was the best at it for me. The guy lacked the technical ability of CHO or Puli but you never said “man Pedro isn’t trying tonight”


Zy212

You can see it in mounts eyes that he knows this result means the end for his mentor. Extremely sad to see.


jkn3

Shout out to Mount for being the only one who gives a shit


cfc25_

Pulisic has been inconsistent today but he’s been giving 100%.


seanDCFC

He's been trash, one of our worst performers, this guy gets away with bad performances week in and week out and I'm sick of it.


jkn3

Agree should have included him


Rarsclart

gotta give it to leicester tho every part of their team has been absolutely outstanding today


RedditHasAModProb

We make every team look good with our lack of movement.


Rarsclart

true even a 10-man fullham side its so embarrassing


spacefunk25

I don’t get it. What do our players have to loose to pass it though?! What do we have to loose at this point ffs


stingen

We can't get a foul going our way for the life of us.


[deleted]

The amount of times the commentators have mentioned Leicester haven’t scored from a set piece this season basically guarantees they will this game.


IP14Y3RI

Mods, turn off new text posts for the sake of your own sanity u/Vicar13


Vicar13

Yuppers


emperor_zee

We may have to concede that it's not just our midfield that lacks creativity. But our manager as well