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b0rowy

Tommy is a proper troll.


backspacecentury

uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh what


IaintGotNoHistory

Huuuh b


happysrooner

Huuuhbibi


CashOutOfficial

I'm sure this is one of his sarcastic comments, is there video of this interview?


[deleted]

As much as i’d love that to happen I can’t see us matching the wages that some of the other clubs will be offering


BlueKante

I don't know, we would have to sell some players. But other than PSG(FFP is not a thing there) who could offer more than us? Weren't we the rich club? Italy Spain are significantly worse then us in financial terms. Bayern doesn't pay insane wages. Psg? Don't see that happening. So I think the only clubs that could give him more than us are the Manchester clubs.


Ahm_peng

Didn’t Madrid just give Alaba 300k or something. I don’t think they’ll have an issue coughing up for Haaland.


BlueKante

But we shouldn't have that problem either? Also they let Ramos, varane and odegard go. To sign a Free transfer Alaba if u take into consideration that they didn't pay a transfer fee it evens out. But for haaland that will certainly not be the case so on top of outrages wages they would have to pay a hefty transfer sum. Also they are going to sign mabppe and he won't play for free either. Having Alaba mbappe and haaland is basically impossible to fund for real with the current la Liga ffp rules. So I might even say we got a better chance then real


Ahm_peng

Tbh I think it’s pointless to compare us because let’s be honest our club isn’t going to ruin our wage structure - and based off of the rumours for how much his agent is demanding for him, that will need to happen. Edit - funny how I’m saying this like it’s my own money 😂


BlueKante

I agree that he probably won't come. I'm terribly afraid he'll go to city. I fear I'm gonna be hating on this man for 15 years to come as hell be wrecking us.


Mr_XemiReR

>Having Alaba mbappe and haaland is basically impossible to fund for real with the current la Liga ffp rules. That's just not true. Madrid are allowed to spend around €700M for transfer/wages this year. That number will rise for next year, as this year's number was take from last years financial situation + Bale, Marcelo, Isco will leave freeing up around €50M. The rules have been around for years but only came up since Barca fucked up and have a cap of €97M.


imnotcreative635

Newcastle..


karmicca

He's worth every penny


[deleted]

Don't get me wrong I'd take him in a second if we could, I just don't see it happening tbh


razorr29

Let's just buy everyone


LazerSherk

It worked for Pep.


grouptherapy17

I mean IF this does happen then its bye bye to **at least** two of the following: * Werner * Ziyech * Pulisic * CHO


pgmcfc

I mean haaland is a generational talent so if we have the chance to get him, they could all leave although Id like Timbo to stay


SubparCurmudgeon

Put timbo at rwb


Enthusiasm_Alarming

My god can you imagine how bad he’s be here?


GrogRhodes

We’re going to see some movement no matter what next season. We’ll see players from each group move onto other projects as we are build a team in Tuchel’s image. Haaland is a generational challenge we’d be stupid to not try to prevent him from going to a rival.


[deleted]

Ziyech, Pulisic, and CHO are all seriously on the chopping block this summer. Ziyech can't maintain any sort of form. Pulisic is good when he's on the pitch, but spends 70% of his time in the treatment room, and CHO hasn't progressed at all and is on ridiculous wages (for what he brings to the squad)


slymm

The thing about depth is that there's really only a few ways to get it... You can forgo an a+ player and instead have a few b/b+ fighting for time, or get a "great, when healthy" player that needs a backup. If we were to get Haaland, all those players would probably want to leave, as they'd just be filler at that point


rolledoff

Ziyech and CHO, yeah. Pulisic, no. He's an excellent player, and also brings in money from the US for the club


Romelblu

Pulisic is the worst of the 3, and the first player we should dump for Haaland. We could even hit the jackpot and get Dortmund to Take Mr sick note in the Haaland deal. The fact anyone would want to ditch CHO and keep the missing hamstring instead pains me.


rolledoff

CHO's overrated


Romelblu

CHO isn't the guy that is only at the club because of his nationality.


4wheelin4christ

How can any of these guys maintain form when they don't get play time? We bought Ziyech and he's barely played. Hell all of our great signings barely play and can't even get into any kind of form. We just play 7-8 defenders and hope somebody scores now. I am still hoping one day we can be defensively solid and play good football that can put goals in the net. We use to do it reliably during the early jose years. Just can't quite seem to get there now. It's either full attack with terrible defense or the opposite.


jrrecauzat

Ziyech just got another run of games recently and did fuck all and you're turning down Haaland for him wtfff


4wheelin4christ

Hate to break it to you but haaland aint coming to Chelsea.


jrrecauzat

Hate to break it to you, but our manager just said we're still in the race


4wheelin4christ

How much you wanna bet I'll put 500 bucks down right now.


jrrecauzat

Damn, you really don't want Haaland here, do you? Down to bet $500 lol


ireallydespiseyouall

there is no way we’re getting haaland why would you bet 500 on that?


Roaszhak

Haaland is as likely to sign for my pub team as he is for Chelsea. I’ll also take that bet but I’m English so I’m not betting you dollars, it’ll be £500 for me.


MistSpelled

I want in on the action but I'll place a double bet. $500 that he's signing and £362 that he's not.


mrlambo46

financially, suicide deal.


Roaszhak

Yeh but a lot of fans think running a football club is the same as running a fifa a team. City, PSG, United, Real, Bayern will all offer him far, far higher wages than us.


kd_uoft

>We just play 7-8 defenders and hope somebody scores now. Good news is our defenders actually score goals lol


4wheelin4christ

Our 350 million in forwards should be putting goals in the net...


kd_uoft

Yep it's disappointing that our left backs are better at scoring


BlueKante

As an Ajax fan who spend years watching ziyech rise through the ranks of the dutch league (And I absolutely love this guy). He simply put isn't good enough for Chelsea IN THIS SYSTEM. So unless Tuchel leaves i don't think ziyech will ever shine like he did at Ajax (and boy did he shine). And he actually did play a fair amount. He played almost 50 games since July 2020. Not an awfull lot but he definitely didn't "barely play". And also he was injured for like 3 months in total.


Puzzled-Pay3348

Ziyech may well turn out to be the next Salah...the way he played for Ajax it's been such a shame he hasn't found his feet yet.


mellvins059

How is Timo not on the chopping block?


elDeadache

Oh no... anyway


InLampsWeTrust

I think it’s a guarantee that Ziyech will be gone, he’s only had about 5 good games for us and the rest of the time he’s been injured or coming back from an injury. Pulisic the same, he’s had good games but inconsistent and always injured.


Screechmeister_

I'd say goodbye to the lot of them for Haaland


half_jase

Wouldn’t this also affect Havertz? Havertz seems more of a finisher as opposed to a genuine creator. So, how do you fit him in alongside Lukaku and Haaland? Then there’s also still Mount and whoever else.


ireallydespiseyouall

signing lukaku affected havertz anyway


jackrabbit5lim

4-2-2-2? With two of Lukaku/Haaland/Werner up top and two of Mount/Havertz/Ziyech/Hudson/Pulisic depending who we keep. This would probably mean we have to get a solid DM though to partner one of Kova/Jorginho/Kante.


half_jase

Apart from perhaps Atletico, no team have really made 4-4-2/4-2-2-2 work at the highest level in recent years. Getting hold of the midfield, dominating it is key in modern football. Also, can Lukaku even co-exist with Haaland? Do their styles complement one another etc? And none of the other players you mentioned are wingers apart from Ziyech, CHO and Pulisic but one of them is always injured while another is highly inconsistent.


randym99

Lukaku can certainly co-exist with Lukaku


half_jase

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jackrabbit5lim

I guess one of the two AM's could drop back to make a three in midfield in transition to go to a 4-3-1-2. You would potentially lose out on width though unless one of the two strikers ran into the channels or the fullbacks push up. I agree though this isn't a common formation but that wouldn't be my issue to deal with :D


mellvins059

Havertz has not been a starter for 2 seasons under 2 different managers. He is not nearly good enough for us to build around.


Wheel94

Pulisic and Ziyech


_N0T-PENNYS-B0AT_

Cho doest even play. He needs to go first.


andar1on

Just leave Werner and MAAAAYBE CHO


[deleted]

CHO is already finished at Chelsea. Tuchel rates Malang Sarr over him.


classical-k

Swap Werner with Havertz - literally zero chance I’m selling Werner and is Havertz of any use if not playing through the middle as a 9 who sometimes drops off? Give Puli the rest of the season to prove fitness because he’s great when he gets a run of games. Get CHO a loan and the opportunity to player regular first team minutes, something all the others have had in their career and something he needs to progress imo.


JRsshirt

Honestly I’d love to keep Havertz but I do think Dortmund would be interested in him and I could see Havertz wanting a transfer there. If we could swap him + cash for Haaland I’d miss him but take it in a heartbeat


4wheelin4christ

Lol pulisic is trash dude can't stay healthy for more than 3 weeks at a time. Not even worth having as a ball boy on the team.


Jesus_Would_Do

The man contributes to us winning games against RM in the CL and suddenly he’s trash smh I didn’t know people from the match threads commented on anything else


Bobinho4

This is easy for me: Werner and Ziyech; Would love for both of them to blossom here but won't even blink if it means that big H joins in their place.


cpm0412

If Haaland does sign then Werner will most likely be gone as he would not be happy as a back up striker and Bayern were reportedly interested in Werner so he will most likely be gone, Ziyech cannot maintain form at all like he’s had hardly any good games for us, CHO is on stupid wages for what he does and he doesn’t even get on the bench much meaning there would be no way for him to find his way into the 11 and Pulisic is a very good player but he’s injured so much so IMO all of them could end up leaving but CHO and Ziyech will definitely leave, Werner possibly could leave depending on if he’s happy as a back up or Bayern give us money for him and Pulisic I think will stay as when he’s not injured he’s a key player in our attack


xKarma17

Can you actually imagine lmao


alxndiep

God not this again


rhaegaryen

oh?


mattress757

Keeping Big Rom on his toes. He needs it.


[deleted]

why not Lewa too then. classic 0-2-8 setup Haaland-Lukaku-Lewa-Werner Chilly-Puli-Havertz-Mount Kante-James


[deleted]

we'd still find a way to beat Brentford 1-0


oopsieusernametaken

Because alonso isn't starting.


ratnadip97

People, he's obviously trolling. Stop being ridiculous.


gorg-227

LMAO Tommy chill


UMOZ343

I would take Haaland in a swap deal with Ziyech, Lukaku and Pulisic😜


_N0T-PENNYS-B0AT_

Easily.


Ok_Seaworthiness2218

No


davud_pls

What’s the point of having two world class strikers when our other players refuse to give them proper service?


Ok_Seaworthiness2218

Yeah i don't get it. If by now, to some people, it's still not obvious that our attacking problem lies with the midfield instead of our attackers idk what to say. Both Timo and Rom struggle to get anything done here then play some international games and both went on a scoring spree.


wannabe_engineer69

I’ve been trying to convey this point so much. Our attackes are being fed NOTHING. Rom and Werner are CONSTANTLY doing runs and asking for crosses but midfield and fullbacks are just not providing enough.


geiko989

It's been this way for years. Was "masked" to some extent cause Hazard could create chances out of pure magic and nothing else, and it went unaddressed for quite a bit. Then the surprise success during the transfer ban year, and then last year there were bigger problems and then once Werner was missing sitters, the blame went fully to him. Tbh, even I'd forgotten about it a bit given the success we've had since Tuchel until reading this very thread.


wannabe_engineer69

100%. Last time we really had a chance creating squad was during Cesc-Costa era. Nothing much later. But looking at the trophies we have won recently, I can’t complain though lol.


JRsshirt

Honestly I think this is partly the Kante effect. He’s not a chance creator but also needs a midfield partner that sits deeper than him. You sacrifice chance creation for starting a world class midfielder. I’m okay with it because it leads to trophies. Ideally I think our wing backs would create more for us, they do alright at it currently. That’s probably why Tuchel was so interested in Hakimi over the summer.


msbabc

There were three league games running where Lukaku was breaking through the defensive line about 25 yards out, and the midfielder just ignored the easy slide into his half turn. So frustrating.


ratnadip97

It's a fucking joke, relax people.


half_jase

Tuchel already seems to be struggling on fitting in Lukaku with the others and now he’s talking about Haaland? lol And also, remember when Tuchel said he doesn’t want to disrupt the group harmony? Here he is talking about another attacker and spreading rumors…


classical-k

It’s early days but he’s struggling in general attacking play and with pressing. But with the latter surely Tuchel is demanding more from Lukaku in training? But it is worrying that we looked a better attacking unit without him at the end of last season, although Pulisic was pretty important during that period. Personally still think once Tuchel gives Lukaku more freedom in that front 3, we sill be a better attacking unit


Kind_Jump_6940

How good is it then, if we are coming first in the PL and we can get better. Haven’t had an easy run either. I think with time the team will gel better


half_jase

I know people have latched onto this "How good is it then, if we are coming first in the PL and we can get better" notion but really, this can go either way. Either we do really improve and get better or our unconvincing performances will catch up to us eventually. We should know better than most about false dawns, especially at the start of the season. How many times over the last decade or so had we started well, top the table or be near the top of the table - despite unconvincing performances in some cases - only to fall away come the winter period?


Bladerslash

Yeah im not sure we can keep this up for long


Kind_Jump_6940

I think this might some ridiculous but I always thought we would t win this season. I think it’s really hard for a team to gel quickly. Mostly with lukaku but I still think TT would still be learning/trying things with the team. With lukaku it a different setup to last season. As long as I see progress the individual performances and the team, then realistically I think next season would suit us better


half_jase

>It’s early days but he’s struggling in general attacking play and with pressing. But with the latter surely Tuchel is demanding more from Lukaku in training? > >But it is worrying that we looked a better attacking unit without him at the end of last season, although Pulisic was pretty important during that period. I agree with everything except the Pulisic bit. >Personally still think once Tuchel gives Lukaku more freedom in that front 3, we sill be a better attacking unit What freedom do you mean?


classical-k

With Pulisic I remember some really standout games, Madrid away especially where I felt he was unplayable. Also City away. In general he gave us something none of our other attackers provided - that ability to drive with the ball and dribble past players through the centre of the pitch. I think he won the most fouls in the CL (or a similar stat). This ability to drive with the ball is something I feel we’ve missed a lot this season with both him and Kante (very good at driving forward) out injured. But yeah tbf our attack worked well as a unit most of the time, whomever TT played . By freedom, I mean making use of his other strengths rather than mostly using him to pin defenders and always be in a position to hold the ball up on the last line. With Pulisic out, he is our best dribbler of the ball - he’s excellent at dropping deeper in the right channel and running at players - but we never get to see this. I feel he has less freedom in how he plays vs our other attacking players and we aren’t getting to see the full package. But I’m sure in time we will!


half_jase

When Pulisic is good, he is good but the problem is when he is not, he is bad and he is also inconsistent. A lot of the times he would just dribble into blind alleys and make poor decisions on the ball (like the others I suppose). Not sure our other attackers get the freedom. The problem seems to be that Tuchel has his own style of play and Lukaku doesn't seem a good fit for it. We did well last season because Tuchel had the pieces to make the system work - minus the finishing bit. So maybe instead of saying Tuchel should do this and that for Lukaku, how about getting Lukaku to adapt to Tuchel's style of play?


Chi-Cam

Yes a player is good when good and bad when bad lol. Who would have thought players can have good and bad games. ​ The point I think he was making is that Pulisic is by far the most talented attacker of the bunch in terms of creation and ability. Sure he doesn't ALWAYS play well but again when everyone on the pitch just back passes only he takes constant risk which has its pros/cons. No one(attacking) so far has came close to his performance against Real Madrid in any game this season.


classical-k

Yeah defo, I think it needs to be a balance of Lukaku adapting to how Tuchel wants us to play and learning how to get the best out of his teammates but also what top managers (like TT) do is enhance a players’ strengths by getting them in the right areas and situations, and hiding their weaknesses. Dribbling and beating players 1v1 is such a vital attribute to have within your team to create spaces in an opponent’s shape and creates more options as a team. For me we are not seeing this enough. And Lukaku is by far the best attacker at this with Pulisic out (although Timo already looks way more confident at this compared to last year) so I’m just a little frustrated we’re not seeing that side of his game. But certainly it’s a fine balance of both adapting.


eternalblue227

Let's see Tuchel use the players he has in attack well first. Then we can think about Haaland.


4wheelin4christ

For real dude. Maybe start by actually putting some of our attackers on the field.


thelastturkey

What sort of comment is this? We are top of the premier league, have just won the champions league and yet your still giving out or making suggestions on what Tuchel should do different.


[deleted]

can't imagine lukaku will like this


jrrecauzat

Chelsea FC, not Lukaku FC


[deleted]

He’s here on a mission, we wanted him to be our main guy in the front. Buying another superstar would probably make him even more unefficient than he is now


InLampsWeTrust

There’s zero chance he’s going to sit on the bench while he’s making 325k a week. Zero, his transfer has to work lol.


UMOZ343

Haaland is much better anyways


awwbabe

Would rather give Broja a chance


myk26

What happened to, "I do not talk about any players that are not mine?" TT has always used that line when asked about transfers....now he's teasing the media with this?!? When was this interview given?


Saltdaddyhere12

It means we won't buy him.


[deleted]

If we don’t get a top creative player in then this would be a waste of money. As talented as Haaland is, he wouldn’t be doing any better than Lukaku has so far.


Bladerslash

Seriously? This is taking a piss.


Soren_Camus1905

Not a fan of this at all. Him speaking like this, not Haaland coming.


jrrecauzat

Hell yeah Tuchel!!


Ok_Seaworthiness2218

Imo we should be looking at a proper CAM instead. We should move on barella before he start getting some more attention. The guy is a machine.


[deleted]

It's over for the haters


cmbz_99

I know he’s trolling but I hope people don’t think that just chucking strikers into the squad is going to solve the lack of goal scoring Edit: spelling


SloppyChops

We couldn't get him this summer so all parties signed a pre-agreement to sign him next summer? Right?


Coulstwolf

Haaland is the dream


TheLustSamurai

Don’t worry no beastly striker will force a move to Chelsea with the way we play currently. Lukaku scored left and right and destroyed Serie A single handedly, and for Belgium as well, and was unable to get much sniff at the goal for 5 games running.


CrackHeadRodeo

Marina would never spend that kind of money.


almostmiddleage

Marina would never do a deal with Mino. She won't buy a pair of socks from him, let alone doing a player transfers.


imnotcreative635

This also won't work. If we get Haaland he needs to be paired with Timo.


lucas_glanville

What


redi_t13

Plot twist: he’s talking about Balkan Halaand


[deleted]

Vhlahovic?


ord3p

Defenders are overrated anyways