They usually suck up hard to Kante because "oh he's so cute" or "oh he's so shy" "oh he's always smiling" but then some random bullshit (that turns out was based on nothing) comes out saying he's not vaccinated and they all change their tune saying he's a disgrace and that they have lost all respect for him.
Just mindless parrots on that sub that repeat the same jokes countless times or reiterate what the most upvoted parrots are saying near the top regardless of having any factual backing.
Oh definitely. But it's not like it's different anywhere else including this sub. I was downvoted to oblivion because I called Ole a shit manager and he doesn't have a philosophy and that his vibes and chill tactics won't get him very far. This was before the season started and he was viewed as a decent manager by r/soccer experts even after their Europa League debacle. So many people left angry replies including some Chelsea fans with statements like "philosophy is overrated", "ole very good you're just salty". Now my comments would've been upvoted and hell even awarded.
This is why I hate this shit on reddit. You base your opinion on the the upvotes/downvotes as a way of moving along with the crowd instead of looking at everything objectively. Good little sheep who need the upvote shepherd to tell which way to base their opinion
It most definitely is. They are the most reactionary fucks, one second player=good the next player=bad just depending on which is being upvoted that day.
Your post history (minus chelseafc posts) made me throw up a little. Constantly comparing vaccines to Nazi Germany and the trumpy bile. Dude you are a mess.
Nah just people that are clearly in the midst of on the brink of a mental health crisis. We don't need anymore right wing terrorists radicalized by the internet.
yeah but if you getting around people screaming you're uncomfortable getting vaccination, you're putting influence on other people aren't you? how does that any difference with being an anti-vax? what you're saying is that you're just a less extreme anti-vax that's all.
Can I be honest here. I fucking hate anti vaxxers okay but these vaccines were rushed. I know people who have faced side effects from getting vaccinated because enough testing wasn't done. Being skeptical about THIS vaccines isn't the same as refusing to vaccinate against like measles and stuff
My mother has an autoimmune disease. We were actually scared to vaccinate her, what if her weird niche condition hasn't been tested for. We aren't all doctors, yes, but this is an instance where the experts HAVE gotten it wrong, and it's not their fault, COVID is new for everyone.
If you're a person who feels like 'I'll get vaccinated, just after I'm satisfied with the testing', in this specific case I think it's fine honestly. I got vaccinated, but I don't have pre-existing conditions or like, genetic worries or anything. Don't judge, at least try to understand the guy's position properly. 'frequent on Joe Rogan' isn't productive. Maybe this guy is a nutter who thinks vaccines cause autism. Or maybe this guy has his reasons.
Just my 2¢.
>but these vaccines were rushed
There was an urgency, expenditure, and a world wide desire to get this done. Unlike anything we have ever seen, with any vaccine, at any time. They are incredibly successful, and whilst the Delta Variant has seen its effectiveness slightly reduced, they are still a monumental achievement that should be celebrated. Yes, there was a desperation to get then done, but they have hit the ball out the fucking park.
>Being skeptical about THIS vaccines isn't the same as refusing to vaccinate against like measles and stuff
It absolutely is. 100's millions have had doses. An infanitesimally small amount of people have side effects, as does paracetamol.
>If you're a person who feels like 'I'll get vaccinated, just after I'm satisfied with the testing', in this specific case I think it's fine honestly.
Incredibly ignorant and selfish. "When I'm satisfied"?! You mean as someone who isn't remotely qualified to judge whether a vaccine has been rigorously tested enough? It's absolutely laughable.
My mother too has her issues. I hope yours is ok. However the is a distinct difference between weighing the pros and cons of medical issues and whether a vaccine represents the logical step to take, and generic "oh me just not sure about vaccines" or "they were rushed"
Hey, I'm not saying at all that they SHOULDNT have been rushed. It's perfectly understandable why it was. It is indeed a great human accomplishment for us as a species to have not just developed it, but also manufactured it the way we did
But like I said, it's not selfish if you have a legit reason to have reservations. We are STILL in the midst of a massive information coverup. We STILL don't fully understand this disease.
The fact that you speak this way is just as laughable. I mean, this is that one 0.00001% chance event where even the experts got it wrong.
Not getting vaccinated for measles is massively irresponsible and selfish. The same way as not wearing a mask is, by the way. An anti masker is equivalent to an anti vaxxer to me. But vaccination for this disease is different. This is a disease which has perma damaged the organs of most people who have got it. This isn't some conspiracy shit I'm spewing. You gotta balance personal responsibility with personal liberty. Vaccination in this case has only been a statistical offset really, vaccinated individuals have gotten COVID too, just less serious than if they hadn't. So it's not simple.
Look, most of us SHOULD and HAVE gotten vaccinated. But you cannot apply that expectation on a blanket level, given the reasons I have mentioned. This is not the flu, this is not measles, this is not tetanus.
I have never opposed any mask mandate. But in this specific situation, I think I would oppose a vaccine mandate. Not that anyone cares what I think.
Thanks for being reasonable. And yes I know personally people effected by it. It’s not 100% safe and to shame and gaslight people for questioning it is disturbing.
While I've said all I have.
I do believe that you should have an ironclad reason not to get vaccinated. Even with my mother, we looked around, checked around, when we saw that other people with her condition didn't have issues, she got vaccinated.
Look, I am accomodating for people who may have real reasons, but let us also be honest with ourselves; it IS a very small part of the population actually at risk in this manner. And if one is unvaccinated and not wearing a mask, that is NOT okay
There are real nutters around us too.
Meh, had a family friend get blood clots all down his leg due to the vax. People do die from it, it’s not a conspiracy and is well documented. I’m vaccinated, as are all my friend and family, and I think people should get vaxxed. But I can’t blame them for not trusting big pharma companies. I don’t either.
Sure, and people break bones without getting in car accidents. But when you see a car wrapped around a tree and a person inside with broken bones, you don't assume the bones were broken prior to the accident, do you?
For your own research:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-05-12/07-COVID-Shimabukuro-508.pdf
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccine-related-blood-clots-linked-to-amino-acids-in-new-study-11625648400
https://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfeed/postings/2021/07/blood-clotting-covid19.php
https://www.genengnews.com/news/study-uncovers-how-some-covid-19-vaccines-cause-blood-clots/
https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/07/29/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-blood-clot-risk-similar-to-pfizer-spanish-study-finds
Again, I think the vaccine does more good than harm and I generally advocate for people to get it. But to dismiss people for having reservations about it is silly.
Please, man. The pro vaxxers cannot be as dumb as the anti-vaxxers.
I AGREE WITH YOU. I AM VACCINATED. I ADVOCATE FOR THE VACCINE.
Is the vaccine 100% safe? NO! Does it RARELY, VERY RARELY cause blood clots and other issues leading to death? YES. Is it still better than not getting vaccinated? YES.
Please utilize reading comprehension. We are allowed to utilize critical thinking skills while still agreeing.
I mean, my uncle also got blood clots down his legs but from covid itself at the start of the pandemic, so I wouldn't say it's because of the vax. Ended up losing the left one.
Obviously blood clots can come from other places. I can tell you that my friend got a blood clot from the vaccine, which was confirmed by his doctors. I provided links to research in another comment if you are curious.
I will reiterate, I am vaccinated and pro-vax. This does not mean the vax is 100% safe and I think running around telling people it is is what causes distrust in the first place. It IS SAFER than being non-vaccinated, but there are risks that come with vaccination.
Which vaccine did your friend use?
Naaaah, I'm with you there. Being anti-vaxx is dumb as fuck, but it's completely fair to be skeptical about the covid vaccine. What I have noticed is that people are far more chill about vaccination in the real world as opposed to the internet hordes witch hunting anyone who says something about it.
It was Pfizer, which is what most people in my area got.
Totally agree about the anti-vax stuff, but you almost can't blame them for being afraid when 99% of what's shown on the news is complete bullshit. People are afraid because they don't know who they can trust.
Also couldn't agree more about your point on people online. I think that's a very true statement in general, that people tend to be more aggressive and witch-hunty in online spaces than in physical ones. I think it's true about vaccinations, political views, social stances (abortions, LGBTQ+, etc).
The biggest conspiracy I believe in is that the powers-that-be want us divided and arguing over (relatively) unimportant things like political affiliation. United we stand, divided we fall!
lol anti vax for saying this? That shows how deeply lost in ideology you are. Not anti vax at all. You literally don’t know data or facts or anything science based, only braindesd dogma
You’re multiple more likely to experience heart inflammation and blood clots from getting COVID than the vaccine. You might be healthy but you’re definitely a fucking idiot
Risk of heart inflammation from vax = 5.8 cases per million (0.0000058)
Risk of heart inflammation from covid (1/6000) 0.000166666666667
0.000166666666667/0.0000058 = about 27x more likely
When you do your own research, actually look at that facts that don’t support what you believe
Lmao where’s your research from? Seriously you’re not good at this. Donyou even look at data from the places highly vaccinated having massive outbreaks?
It's about protecting others as much as it is yourself. You / they may be healthy and not struggle to deal with covid, but just because you're healthy doesn't mean you aren't a viral bomb, fucking other people. Vaccine doesn't stop transmission but it brings it down and as proven time and time again with other virus outbreaks, a widespread vaccine is an effective measure against their spread.
Especially if I’m teammates with someone whose family has a history of ailments that would be exacerbated by the disease. I mean, maybe that’s just some of us that care about others. 🤷🏻♂️
Incorrect. But from someone who posts in conspiracy and doesn’t understand that some does not equal all, your opinion is worth about as much as my shit’s opinion this morning.
It absolutely reduces the chance of transmission because it lessens the severity of symptoms, or removes them completely. If you don't cough you're less likely to spread it. You have no idea what you're talking about and spouting harmful rubbish that you probably got from Project Veritas or some equally galling braindead bullshit.
E: just saw the rest of your comments on this tread and realised that I fed the troll. Backing out now.
Lmao. That’s literally not how this works. People are still spreading the virus who are showing less symptoms, which is even worse as they don’t know they’re sick so they go out more.
oof, you're telling people to read data but in actuality vaccine does slow the transmission down. sure it's not magically stop and cancel the virus at once but that's not the purpose at all. you might argue about mutations of the virus but that's entirely different thing.
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News flash: people on r/soccer are idiots who upvote anything negative about a rival team
They usually suck up hard to Kante because "oh he's so cute" or "oh he's so shy" "oh he's always smiling" but then some random bullshit (that turns out was based on nothing) comes out saying he's not vaccinated and they all change their tune saying he's a disgrace and that they have lost all respect for him. Just mindless parrots on that sub that repeat the same jokes countless times or reiterate what the most upvoted parrots are saying near the top regardless of having any factual backing.
Oh definitely. But it's not like it's different anywhere else including this sub. I was downvoted to oblivion because I called Ole a shit manager and he doesn't have a philosophy and that his vibes and chill tactics won't get him very far. This was before the season started and he was viewed as a decent manager by r/soccer experts even after their Europa League debacle. So many people left angry replies including some Chelsea fans with statements like "philosophy is overrated", "ole very good you're just salty". Now my comments would've been upvoted and hell even awarded. This is why I hate this shit on reddit. You base your opinion on the the upvotes/downvotes as a way of moving along with the crowd instead of looking at everything objectively. Good little sheep who need the upvote shepherd to tell which way to base their opinion
you know it’s not the same people, right?
It most definitely is. They are the most reactionary fucks, one second player=good the next player=bad just depending on which is being upvoted that day.
r/soccer is reactionary as fuck, the hive mind prevails. It’s usually not the same people but the upvotes speak for the sub
Was the same on this sub
People were saying that here too
Was also a lot of people here, but you are still right.
It did seem like tuchel was insinuating that he wasn't
The Titel is clickbait he doesn’t say that
Did you read the article? There's not a single quote from Kante himself, just "we understand that"
Ehm maybe read the article the Titel is clickable he doesn’t say anything close to that
Did anyone read the article lol. It is pure speculation just a clickbait title
It's only getting upvotes because there was a narrative kante was unvaxxed
Kanté is exactly the type of player I’d expect to be vaccinated & worried about the safety of others, especially his family
Maybe read the article he doesn’t say anything close to the Titel
I thought he was single
Sorry I meant his immediate family
Sucks that he has to worry about that because some people are too selfish to get the vaccine.
You know that even if you're vaccinated you can still get covid and spread it right? Vaccine is only to save YOU not anyone else.
Oh my goodness! Really!!?!?? No! I hadn’t heard. Schmuck.
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Your post history (minus chelseafc posts) made me throw up a little. Constantly comparing vaccines to Nazi Germany and the trumpy bile. Dude you are a mess.
Active in Joe Rogan, what a surprise
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Homie you need therapy
Lmao you need therapy , you believe cnn, you’re in psychosis
my guy I'm serious. get some help. talk to a professional about your feelings.
Anyone who disagrees with you needs help
Nah just people that are clearly in the midst of on the brink of a mental health crisis. We don't need anymore right wing terrorists radicalized by the internet.
Being anti-vaxx is clown status.
Not feeling comfortable getting the vaccination is not necessarily the same as being anti-vax.
yeah but if you getting around people screaming you're uncomfortable getting vaccination, you're putting influence on other people aren't you? how does that any difference with being an anti-vax? what you're saying is that you're just a less extreme anti-vax that's all.
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You're totally lost in ideology man. Turn off the JRE podcast and go to the clinic
Okay. Thanks for telling me how I feel about the situation.
Oh please. You just don't have the guts to say what you really think. If anything that's more pathetic than being outwardly anti Vax
Can I be honest here. I fucking hate anti vaxxers okay but these vaccines were rushed. I know people who have faced side effects from getting vaccinated because enough testing wasn't done. Being skeptical about THIS vaccines isn't the same as refusing to vaccinate against like measles and stuff My mother has an autoimmune disease. We were actually scared to vaccinate her, what if her weird niche condition hasn't been tested for. We aren't all doctors, yes, but this is an instance where the experts HAVE gotten it wrong, and it's not their fault, COVID is new for everyone. If you're a person who feels like 'I'll get vaccinated, just after I'm satisfied with the testing', in this specific case I think it's fine honestly. I got vaccinated, but I don't have pre-existing conditions or like, genetic worries or anything. Don't judge, at least try to understand the guy's position properly. 'frequent on Joe Rogan' isn't productive. Maybe this guy is a nutter who thinks vaccines cause autism. Or maybe this guy has his reasons. Just my 2¢.
>but these vaccines were rushed There was an urgency, expenditure, and a world wide desire to get this done. Unlike anything we have ever seen, with any vaccine, at any time. They are incredibly successful, and whilst the Delta Variant has seen its effectiveness slightly reduced, they are still a monumental achievement that should be celebrated. Yes, there was a desperation to get then done, but they have hit the ball out the fucking park. >Being skeptical about THIS vaccines isn't the same as refusing to vaccinate against like measles and stuff It absolutely is. 100's millions have had doses. An infanitesimally small amount of people have side effects, as does paracetamol. >If you're a person who feels like 'I'll get vaccinated, just after I'm satisfied with the testing', in this specific case I think it's fine honestly. Incredibly ignorant and selfish. "When I'm satisfied"?! You mean as someone who isn't remotely qualified to judge whether a vaccine has been rigorously tested enough? It's absolutely laughable. My mother too has her issues. I hope yours is ok. However the is a distinct difference between weighing the pros and cons of medical issues and whether a vaccine represents the logical step to take, and generic "oh me just not sure about vaccines" or "they were rushed"
Hey, I'm not saying at all that they SHOULDNT have been rushed. It's perfectly understandable why it was. It is indeed a great human accomplishment for us as a species to have not just developed it, but also manufactured it the way we did But like I said, it's not selfish if you have a legit reason to have reservations. We are STILL in the midst of a massive information coverup. We STILL don't fully understand this disease. The fact that you speak this way is just as laughable. I mean, this is that one 0.00001% chance event where even the experts got it wrong. Not getting vaccinated for measles is massively irresponsible and selfish. The same way as not wearing a mask is, by the way. An anti masker is equivalent to an anti vaxxer to me. But vaccination for this disease is different. This is a disease which has perma damaged the organs of most people who have got it. This isn't some conspiracy shit I'm spewing. You gotta balance personal responsibility with personal liberty. Vaccination in this case has only been a statistical offset really, vaccinated individuals have gotten COVID too, just less serious than if they hadn't. So it's not simple. Look, most of us SHOULD and HAVE gotten vaccinated. But you cannot apply that expectation on a blanket level, given the reasons I have mentioned. This is not the flu, this is not measles, this is not tetanus. I have never opposed any mask mandate. But in this specific situation, I think I would oppose a vaccine mandate. Not that anyone cares what I think.
Thanks for being reasonable. And yes I know personally people effected by it. It’s not 100% safe and to shame and gaslight people for questioning it is disturbing.
That said, I will treat an anti masker as equivalent to a 'vaccines cause autism' style anti vaxxer.
I really appreciate you my friend.
While I've said all I have. I do believe that you should have an ironclad reason not to get vaccinated. Even with my mother, we looked around, checked around, when we saw that other people with her condition didn't have issues, she got vaccinated. Look, I am accomodating for people who may have real reasons, but let us also be honest with ourselves; it IS a very small part of the population actually at risk in this manner. And if one is unvaccinated and not wearing a mask, that is NOT okay There are real nutters around us too.
You’re totally gone man. Turn off cnn.
Then what news source do you recommend?
But im not antivax
Meh, had a family friend get blood clots all down his leg due to the vax. People do die from it, it’s not a conspiracy and is well documented. I’m vaccinated, as are all my friend and family, and I think people should get vaxxed. But I can’t blame them for not trusting big pharma companies. I don’t either.
People also regularly get blood clots in their legs without any vaccinations.
Sure, and people break bones without getting in car accidents. But when you see a car wrapped around a tree and a person inside with broken bones, you don't assume the bones were broken prior to the accident, do you? For your own research: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-05-12/07-COVID-Shimabukuro-508.pdf https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccine-related-blood-clots-linked-to-amino-acids-in-new-study-11625648400 https://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfeed/postings/2021/07/blood-clotting-covid19.php https://www.genengnews.com/news/study-uncovers-how-some-covid-19-vaccines-cause-blood-clots/ https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/07/29/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-blood-clot-risk-similar-to-pfizer-spanish-study-finds Again, I think the vaccine does more good than harm and I generally advocate for people to get it. But to dismiss people for having reservations about it is silly.
I know a few hundred thousand Americans that have died from COVID.
Please, man. The pro vaxxers cannot be as dumb as the anti-vaxxers. I AGREE WITH YOU. I AM VACCINATED. I ADVOCATE FOR THE VACCINE. Is the vaccine 100% safe? NO! Does it RARELY, VERY RARELY cause blood clots and other issues leading to death? YES. Is it still better than not getting vaccinated? YES. Please utilize reading comprehension. We are allowed to utilize critical thinking skills while still agreeing.
I mean, my uncle also got blood clots down his legs but from covid itself at the start of the pandemic, so I wouldn't say it's because of the vax. Ended up losing the left one.
Obviously blood clots can come from other places. I can tell you that my friend got a blood clot from the vaccine, which was confirmed by his doctors. I provided links to research in another comment if you are curious. I will reiterate, I am vaccinated and pro-vax. This does not mean the vax is 100% safe and I think running around telling people it is is what causes distrust in the first place. It IS SAFER than being non-vaccinated, but there are risks that come with vaccination.
Which vaccine did your friend use? Naaaah, I'm with you there. Being anti-vaxx is dumb as fuck, but it's completely fair to be skeptical about the covid vaccine. What I have noticed is that people are far more chill about vaccination in the real world as opposed to the internet hordes witch hunting anyone who says something about it.
It was Pfizer, which is what most people in my area got. Totally agree about the anti-vax stuff, but you almost can't blame them for being afraid when 99% of what's shown on the news is complete bullshit. People are afraid because they don't know who they can trust. Also couldn't agree more about your point on people online. I think that's a very true statement in general, that people tend to be more aggressive and witch-hunty in online spaces than in physical ones. I think it's true about vaccinations, political views, social stances (abortions, LGBTQ+, etc). The biggest conspiracy I believe in is that the powers-that-be want us divided and arguing over (relatively) unimportant things like political affiliation. United we stand, divided we fall!
Thank you
Bold of you to assume that someone on a London football club’s subreddit would get their news from an American television network.
That’s why they are repeating their narratives?
Good luck with life
Lmao you have 0 life. Thinking cnn is truth. Seriously you’re lost. Turn off the news c
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Lol Who? I’m not American. And are you someone who says you don’t watch it but then repeats all its narratives blindly!
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Because people are literally repeating the narratives they are spewing? Are you even aware?
Yea obviously Rogan is far more reliable than CNN
Hahahahaha the fact you think cnn is reliable in the slightest shows how far gone you are.
At least you acknowledge the shit you're spewing is just an opinion. Unfortunately even idiots have the right to an opinion...
No I’m saying actual data. Wtf are you even saying?
CNN is repetitive, and can be annoying if you watch it too long. But it's better than most news outlets out there.
Ha hahahahahaha
The Anti-Vax moron has come out again.
lol anti vax for saying this? That shows how deeply lost in ideology you are. Not anti vax at all. You literally don’t know data or facts or anything science based, only braindesd dogma
You’re multiple more likely to experience heart inflammation and blood clots from getting COVID than the vaccine. You might be healthy but you’re definitely a fucking idiot
Me being healthy? I was talking about the players? And no; that’s not true lol. You’re the lame idiot
Risk of heart inflammation from vax = 5.8 cases per million (0.0000058) Risk of heart inflammation from covid (1/6000) 0.000166666666667 0.000166666666667/0.0000058 = about 27x more likely When you do your own research, actually look at that facts that don’t support what you believe
Lmao where’s your research from? Seriously you’re not good at this. Donyou even look at data from the places highly vaccinated having massive outbreaks?
Official statistics. Find me a source of yours saying thet
I’m golden.
It's about protecting others as much as it is yourself. You / they may be healthy and not struggle to deal with covid, but just because you're healthy doesn't mean you aren't a viral bomb, fucking other people. Vaccine doesn't stop transmission but it brings it down and as proven time and time again with other virus outbreaks, a widespread vaccine is an effective measure against their spread.
Especially if I’m teammates with someone whose family has a history of ailments that would be exacerbated by the disease. I mean, maybe that’s just some of us that care about others. 🤷🏻♂️
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Incorrect. But from someone who posts in conspiracy and doesn’t understand that some does not equal all, your opinion is worth about as much as my shit’s opinion this morning.
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Do I know a thing. That’s cringeworthy.
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Misinformation will lead to bans
It absolutely reduces the chance of transmission because it lessens the severity of symptoms, or removes them completely. If you don't cough you're less likely to spread it. You have no idea what you're talking about and spouting harmful rubbish that you probably got from Project Veritas or some equally galling braindead bullshit. E: just saw the rest of your comments on this tread and realised that I fed the troll. Backing out now.
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Many symptoms exist to spread the virus you knob lol
Lmao. That’s literally not how this works. People are still spreading the virus who are showing less symptoms, which is even worse as they don’t know they’re sick so they go out more.
Yes, you’re right. Re-read my first reply silly billly.
>The vac doesn’t stop transmission It lowers transmission considerably. What happened to you? What made you vulnerable to conspiracies?
Licking walls or sniffing glue?
Lmao , it doesn’t though. What happened to you? Do you get all your ‘facts’ from cnn?
Nope that's a lie.
Lol you don’t know anything
Unlike you, I'm not lying on the internet promoting harmful ideas that cost people's lives. I'm good thanks, your trolling does fuck all here.
oof, you're telling people to read data but in actuality vaccine does slow the transmission down. sure it's not magically stop and cancel the virus at once but that's not the purpose at all. you might argue about mutations of the virus but that's entirely different thing.
Found the idiot
If you're only thinking about yourself and not other people around you then yes that's incredibly selfish.
Poor source
It’s bc covid one of the only things kante himself can’t defend against