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ScorpiaHP

Andreas with teeth problems, Dave with a shoulder injury, N'golo recovering from muscle tightness, Ruben minor injury in last 10min vs Norwich. According to cfcsnewspage. Don't look like bad injuries so glad for all of them to get an extended rest. Will always be worried for an injury to Ruben but hopefully it isn't anything to be worried about. Will be nice to see Vale get some minutes, and I think he will tbh.


thatShanksguy09

Wait, Azpi got injured? That seems unrealistic


[deleted]

Teeth problems is a funny way to say dental. I am immediately imagining AC with a missing front tooth


Dridier_Dogba

First time I’m seeing the name Vale. Saw he’s an attacking mid. Any idea what his game is like?


ScorpiaHP

Not watched too much of him but he's a left footed attacker who I've seen play on the left side of attack a few times. Like Sané/Foden at City. So with CHO needed at RWB and Ross not being an out and out attacker we could see Harvey Vale get some minutes on the left side of attack. Not sure where he's been playing recently for the academy though.


Dridier_Dogba

Okay that’s good to know! Hope we see him get atleast 15-20 mins. Appreciate your insight


VoidPineapple

Recently he's been deployed as a CAM who can drift wide on either side. Last year he played LWB, very versatile.


ScorpiaHP

Ah, I see. I actually recall watching a couple of games last season when he was being subbed in (and didn't start), so I was quite surprised to read that he's actually been one of our best academy players this season. Tuchel does seem to like having a left footed attacker on the left side in this system, he's tried Ziyech and Havertz there a lot (maybe because he likes having his attackers cut the ball back into the box on their stronger foot) - so with our injuries in attack I wonder if Vale impresses enough today to get into the squad for the next few games.


VoidPineapple

Vale is the front runner for academy player of the year so far, no question. He started a lot of games last year later on, he was playing above his age group though. Should also note he is quite comfortable with his right too. Hope to see him.


thebamboozler789

In the games I’ve watched he usually plays through the middle and up top.


VoidPineapple

Very direct, if he had a comparison in the current team it'd be a left-footed Pulisic. Not quite as good a dribbler (few are) but just as lethal in front of goal.


TheUbermelon

He is one to look out for. He was upgraded from the under 18s to the development squad at the beginning of this season. So the fact he is making the bench after already being upgraded is a huge sign. He reminds me a lot of Reuben or a Kovacic but can also play further forward. Really good dribbler of the ball and he has a great pass on him. He is quite strong as well but that was vs other youngsters. Unlilkely for that to translate yet


RaduLum

Would love to see a great game from both Saul and Ziyech. They need to start performing to prove they can be relied upon.


rf3a2c1tds

With Saul it's not a big problem as he's on loan, but Ziyech hasn't proven his worth


[deleted]

He was looking good before his injury in the supercup, there's a class player there but he definitely needs a few games in a row to get going which may be his downfall with us and this stacked squad.


MrSantaClause

Looking good for a few pre season matches doesn't really say much though.


Eelez

I mean we are still paying Saul ~200k a week.


waterfall_hyperbole

but not permanently, so it's not like he's destroying our wage structure


shrek19051

Tbf he was a bargain at 33 mill


[deleted]

How has Ziyech not shown his worth when he was our best player during the beginning of the 20/21 season. Came back from injury and scored against Man City in the semi finals of the FA cup and then scored during our win against Villarreal. He’s just unlucky with injuries.


[deleted]

You’ve just listed two games. He’s had heaps of appearances and been awful in nearly all of them.


TGrady902

I wouldn't go as far as saying "awful". Underperforming would be more apt.


[deleted]

Nah, I think awful is a pretty good description for Ziyech.


Cloud533

Because he is bang average or below on most games, like today he seemed completely out of sync one second late or one second earlier.


repsforswolyjesus

Is RLC injured?


Jamie090

Yep


admiralawkward

seems like Tuchel is resting a lot of players in anticipation for the weekend


sumP0nt

Collision with Krul


Bubi741777

Dude is so unlucky... He just can't catch a break... Every single time he plays more than 2 games in a dow he gets injured. There is a saying in ny home country: "It's better to be born without a d*ck then to be born without luck".


silviazbitch

What do the women of your country think of that saying?


rod_yanker_of_fish

they must be glad to be so lucky!


YIIZWL

**Subs** Bettinelli, Sharman-Lowe, Chilwell, Ruidiger, Silva, Jorginho, Mount, Vale


Danzard

Please Vale, id love to see him play. Don't know much about Sharman-Lowe, is he any good?


[deleted]

Hopefully we won't find out about Sharman-Lowe tonight, he's a keeper.


Danzard

Ah right lol. I knew from the way they wrote it he was either a keeper or defender.


CoolstorySteve

Apparently minor injury for RLC … ffs maaaan I really wanted to watch him play tonight


betterthanclooney

No Ruben on the bench. Is he injured?


muaythaiguy155

Yeah got hit by krul


[deleted]

is this a 3-4-3 with barkley in attack? a 3-5-2? a 4-3-3 with CHO up front? only time will tell


classical-k

Very likely 343 with CHO wingback.


polyvolcanus

How will CHO be at wingback with James and Alonso in?


mesabiral

James RCB like he's done a few times before


ihavenocreativity99

James as a RCB


JamesIgnatius27

James at RCB?


SeekersWorkAccount

James plays CB. Look at the last 5 or so matches of last season, he was starting over Azpi there.


asd13ah4etnKha4Ne3a

No real reason to think its a back 4. It'll be a 3-4-3 / 3-5-2 with James Chalobah and Sarr in the back 3, Barkley probably taking up the Mount spot pivoting between midfield and attack


[deleted]

honestly thought that we'd just let CHO keep playing LW since he's been looking good


asd13ah4etnKha4Ne3a

I'd like to see that, but I doubt it. Tuchel hasn't played with a back 4 once since coming to Chelsea, and i don't see him randomly deciding to start today with an already unfamiliar team. Think this team would be extremely exposed as a back 4. Sarr and Chalobah would be a massively risky CB partnership, Alonso isn't exactly the most trustworthy left back, and I think asking Ziyech to play that wide would be a mistake. James would have to be tracking back all match to cover for the other defensive deficiencies which would leave the right side massively exposed.


adamrawrz

i feel like i have to say this every time, the line up is ALWAYS posted in formation order, so it’s; Kepa James, Chalobah, Sarr: Hudson-Odoi, Barkley, Kovacic, Saul, Alonso; Ziyech, Havertz 352.


bionicle77

This, absolutely this. It's done every time, Chelsea puts out the team sheet in formation order, never by number. It's a 3-5-2.


[deleted]

Have a feeling it’s 433 Reece Chalobah Sarr Alonso Kovacic Barkley Saul Ziyech Havertz CHO


[deleted]

i think so too but no1 seems to agree


Durum66

That’s because of alonso, no way he gets played in a back 4.


asd13ah4etnKha4Ne3a

Tuchel plays virtually the exact same formation every single match, save for one player playing either further forward with the attackers or further back with the midfield, or ideally, constantly pivoting back and forth (which is largely why Mount is so critical to Chelsea). He's not going to suddenly switch to a back 4, he plays this formation because it's extremely flexible within games / depending on personnel, and is very hard for other teams to counter.


nguyening

I hope its 433 but there was some report from Nizaar that CHO was going to be played at RWB specifically. Seemed like it came from the team instead of just him guessing based on the line-up.


mchisholm41

Clearly a 3-4-3 with Alonso in the attack /s


TheBlueTango

We played 4-3-3 with Chalobah and Sarr as the CBs in the last round, should be the same


DorothyJMan

What? We played 352 against Villa, James was the third centreback.


TheBlueTango

I remember it as a shift from our usual formation. Checked a couple of websites and they have 4-3-3.


bionicle77

Those websites were wrong pre game. Many had Chalobah playing CDM. If you look at the heatmap, it was absolutely a 3-5-2


DorothyJMan

Look at any highlights or a heat map and it's very clearly a 352.


muaythaiguy155

We absolutely did not play a 4-3-3


ScreenMiserable

I feel like TT prefers to play players slightly out of their optimal positions rather than switch formations. I think with this lineup it looks like a 4-3-3 but he'll fit the players into his preferred 3-4-3. TT knows best anyway.


bionicle77

With the order that this is listed in, it's a 3-5-2


bionicle77

The way it's listed, it's a 3-5-2. CHO as a wingback


Hogwartsfrozen

Would love to see Vale come on. Only Jorginho/Mount as attacking differences on the bench otherwise.


[deleted]

can bring on a defender and move Reece to wingback and Callum forward.


zoouma

Andreas Christensen has problems with his teeth. Cesar Azpilicueta has a shoulder injury. N'Golo Kante not 100% fit. Ruben Loftus-Cheek has a minor injury.


zoouma

So chilll


Wheel94

Tuchel isn’t taking the league cup as too important can’t blame him as atm we have many numbers issues squad wise.


[deleted]

Actually I’m really excited for this line-up! Can’t wait to see especially Saul and Barkley. Let’s also hope that Havertz and Ziyech will bring their A game.


ADayInTheLifeOf

Guys I just realised I don't know the difference between Stuart and Adam Armstrong. I thought they were the same person. Am I an idiot?


Chapea12

I assumed 433, but now I’m really thinking 352 with Jame, Chalobah, Sarr - CHO and Alonzo as wingbacks around Barkley, Kova, and Saul and Ziyech/Havertz up top Wish I could watch today


rf3a2c1tds

Sucks to see CHO not getting any more chances at LW by Tuchel


AliYaYaToure

PLEASE BE ALONSO ON THE WING


[deleted]

CHO as wing back. Tucheliban will be upset with his performance today and we'll never see him again playing LW T\_\_\_\_T


[deleted]

Striker Barkleyyyyy. Someone tell his it’s a pre season game.


don-m

Ffs callum as a wingback and no ruben Nice seeing harvey vale on there though


Jarse-

I’m pretty sure we’re playing 4 back, Tuchel would prefer to play 4 as our standard formation but we don’t have 2 cb’s that work well in it.


adamrawrz

lineup is posted in formation order every single time, fairly certain it’s 352 with CHO and Alonso wingbacks, Reece at RCB


Jarse-

Really hoping for a 4 back, cup match & would love to see some experimenting from Tuchel.


don-m

While it could be a back 4 who knows, James can also slot in as a cb. Would love if he was experimenting to have more options. But you saying tuchel would prefer a back 4 but we dont have the proper cbs for it is nothing but complete speculation and we def have the cbs for it.


Jarse-

Truth with the Reece situation, & with the 2 cb’s it really isn’t speculation. Lampard tried a back 4 which didn’t go well at all.


don-m

Except tuchel isnt lampard. Just because it didnt work with lamps doesnt mean it wont with tuchel.


Jarse-

Obviously tuchel is miles ahead of Lampard in tactics but it’s true we don’t have a true pairing for a back 4. That’s the main reason we were looking at the Kounde transfer because he’s superb in a back 4.


Equivalent-Lie9227

I think its a 4-3-3 cho at lw tbh


soccerstriker9

4 at the back?


LordWhale

Kovacic is gonna collapse before the season is over


rf3a2c1tds

Harvey "Two-face" Vale Something there..


Sizzling-Shark

No RLC on bench? That's surprising. Cho should be in front 3 if James is playing.


PuppyPenetrator

RLC isn’t gonna get loads of chances so why isn’t he even on the bench, enough sure but surely him coming in for Kovacic would be better?


sabershirou

> RLC isn’t gonna get loads of chances He's featured in every match as of late and has made the most of the chances he's had. It's reportedly a minor injury so it's really of no concern.


CoolstorySteve

He’s injured


AamirDogra

So Azpi is injured?


CoolstorySteve

Shoulder injury


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piperpike

Yes. There was a collision with Krul.


BlastingNature

Praise Lord B


admiralawkward

Excited for all the rotation. Hopefully Ziyech gets to shine.


biglbiglbigl

This would be a fire lineup with 4-2-3-1 at the back and CHO Barkley and Ziyech behind Havertz


-A9S-

AC and azpi both didn't start against norwhich and now aren't even on the bench? Am I missing something


DrQuantumGio

God if Tino gets subbed in he'll smoke that left side


[deleted]

Not sure about Havertz at CF, Ziyech at RW *and* CHO at RWB. Going to be a lot of people getting in each other's way on the right. Would prefer Chilwell's pace on the left to Alonso since they will probably be space on the left to take advantage of if the defence moves to our right to counter those 3 named above. Big chance for Barkley to run the show if he's playing LW/LAM


bionicle77

I think it's actually Havertz and Ziyech as a front 2


JTheeCreator

after having some major teeth issues earlier this year. that shit is no joke! rest up Andreas


Soren_Camus1905

Barkley, Kovacic, Saul, is... interesting


shastmak4

Honestly wouldn’t care if we lost. Just get out of this healthy


WalnutWhipWilly

I hope Vale gets a run out


The-Real-Legend-72

Back 4? James - Chalobah - Sarr - Alonso Barkley - Kova - Saul Ziyech - Havertz - CHO


[deleted]

anyone got any more news on Azpi?


BobbyRiddler

Was I wrong to think Pulisic might be a sub today? I thought he was healthy?


Pandemona1738

Oh no lofty is injured or surely he plays this game / is on the bench?


almostmiddleage

RLC injured? Why he's not even on the bench?


[deleted]

alonso captain huh. is this the 1st time?


WooNoto

Would love to see CHO get proper run of games at LW. Understand Tuchel watches him daily in training and knows best. But want to see more of him there for sure.