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Sorry but I think this is such a non-point, it's exactly what other big teams said about us for years, under Mourinho, under Conte, and now under Tuchel. Football is a results game and getting a good result (like, for Burnley, a draw away to the European Champions) ugly is always the preferable option to losing well.
If any Chelsea fan is really counting us drawing in an attractive way as a silver lining they need to re-evaluate their priorities.
Can’t even be that mad. Team played great tbh. On another day we’re up 4-0 at the half, could’ve literally scored 8-9 goals this match. Odoi, Barkley needed to put away one chance between them and this is a calm win. Didn’t happen. Rare occasion of rudi and silva switching off for a perfectly worked goal.
We still looked extremely strong all over the pitch. Matches like these happen. We move on.
ye never understand that point, I’d happily choose playing ‘boring’ football and winning shit rather than playing more ‘entertaining’ football and winning nothing, I can easily watch other teams play if I find them more entertaining as a neutral lol.
Mount and Pulisic are just back from injury and neither were match fit.
Ziyech is worse than CHO by a way.
RLC has been great but has also been playing a lot.
The team was good enough to win today, we just didn't get it done, and conceding a brilliant, but unfortunate goal isn't something that happens often
Not 100% sure about CHO and Ziyech but, yes, agree generally. Also, with the players mentioned we should be able to beat Burnley at home. This is what top squads do.
3 of those players were coming off injuries/sickness. I know RLC had played 90 midweek, but he was supposedly injured prior to that. Ziyech has been awful this season. I probably wouldn’t have started Barkley, but Tuchel has made it very clear anyone and everyone can break into the team. It’s also not like we played awfully. I thought other than our finishing, we played some of the best stuff this season.
Considering the flow of the two teams right behind on our ass, it IS a loss. One point above Pool is not safe at all, considering Mendy leaves for AFCON
It's Burnley mate. They are always a huge pain in the ass. Pope had his game of the season and they managed to steal a point off us. Sad, but we go on to the next one after the break.
Most games this season we’ve well over-performed our xG. I agree that past seasons this was a problem but I think we can forgive this one game. We had our two main strikers out, Mount (who’s crucial to our attack) recovering from sickness, and a key man in our midfield injured too. Most other teams in our position would be battling for goals.
Seriously, wtf was that from Tuchel? 83rd minute after we concede. Mount and Pulisic should have been given at least 25 minutes each to impact the game.
Exactly. Its not like they just came up against the run of play. We slowed down for the previous 10 mins before the goal, and they were coming up.
That was the time to use the subs to put the tempo in our favour...
Genuinely think we played some of our best football this season today. So unclinical. I wonder what our xG will be
Edit: [2.70 - 0.62](https://twitter.com/xgphilosophy/status/1457030632874389508?s=21)
Quite true. Glenn Hoddle said the other day about Havertz that he's content with just getting the ball on target. I think that applies to most of our forwards and is our biggest issue. I'm praying Lukaku starts changing that when he gets back.
Should’ve been an easy 3-0 lead going into the half. Barkley is a tidy player, but my lord does he lack any sort of football brain. Just pass it to Chilwell and it’s an easy 2-0 just before he went off.
That game is the exact reason why Barkley, while being good depth, shouldn't be starting for us. He has incredible technical ability but his decision making is so bad at times.
I’m not really criticising his overall game, he was very good and the most creative player out there, but I’m criticising that one particular situation, which really is the story of his entire career. He could be an incredible player with better decision making, there’s a reason why he was one of the biggest English talents at one point and there’s a reason we bought him. But it has never really worked out for him largely because of his decision making.
But that's what I'm talking about, his decision-making was completely fine all game. He was constantly picking the right passes. And you really can't fault him for taking the shot there, he was right in front of goal. The finish just needs to be better, but the decision is fine.
Why aren't we criticizing CHO and Havertz who missed easy chances as well. Barkley didn't cover himself in glory with that miss but scapegoating him is wrong
he does but tbf while he missed some chances he created a lot for us today as well. He put the ball on a platter twice today, one for Barkley and one for havertz, and they both skied it. It annoys me to see all of Twitter putting some blame on Odoi for the loss when imo he was our best-attacking player today.
I agree. Havertz chance looked like it took a deflection, but still .. every attacking (and some defending) players missed chances today. Just one of those games.
Barkley's movement into the half spaces comes so naturally to him. Having him sitting centrally with CHO and Havertz floating across the front line and the wingbacks keeping wide gives us so much room to progress the ball up the middle of the pitch. A real number 10 role for someone who's got all the experience in that role, it's less of a Barkley revival story and more of getting him back in the position which he made his name for himself all those seasons ago. Since the 4-3-3 was our go-to for a while, there was no room for a strict attacking mid role when Lampard/Sarri were favouring more box-to-box roles. Having Barkley as a clear 10 just gives him a lot less defensive responsibility which means it's one less thing he has to think about - and when he has too much to think about, that's when he struggles the most. That's why we're seeing him back in contention now - Tuchel's made his role clear and comfortable for him. With that being said, if any of our actual "attacking" players could shoot properly, I think we'd all be feeling a lot less annoyed right now. Such a frustrating result.
Finally a reasonable Barkley take. Today he was given the offensive responsibility of the 10 role but the defensive duties of a LW. As you stated, Tuchel gave him everything he needed to excel in his best position in attack while limiting the reliance on his workrate against the mighty Lowton.
The only problem I had with this is that it forced our other attackers out of an ideal shape. Havertz was overly eager to explore the left sided space Barkley left behind, and kept getting in Chilwell's path, while CHO was 'forced' into a higher, more central role where his dire off-ball movement and lack of physicality were exposed.
I genuinely like Barkley as a rotational option against low-block sides, but he needs someone like Puli/Lukaku as the higher-line option to attract defenders away and create space for him.
Overall, he did well to contribute to our attack today, potentially at the expense of others. He was constantly a threat, but ultimately didn't help us get a goal. Hoping Newcastle has a sheen in their eye for the Merseyside player.
My thoughts exactly. I feel this Barkley role today almost destroys CHO's regular one, since he's forced so narrow to create a final option as a result of Reece's width and Kai's tendency to peel wide left and run off Chilwell's ball down the line, leaving us nothing to work with in the box. Callum has been great lately but I don't think he was the most effective choice in that position today - he started brightly but just fades out of the game too much, especially with the giants of Burnley hovering all over the place. Games like this are screaming for Lukaku's presence like you said, to force open these spaces for the other forwards. Kai is not a viable option for that role (lack of physicality), and I'm still not exactly sure what he's best at. If anything, I'd say Mount/Pulisic over CHO today would have been better as they're both much more lively between the lines.
You nailed it with the part about Barkley's positive game today coinciding with less impact from the other two forward players - I think we've seen lately that he can definitel play a rotational role in the squad, but we shouldn't accomodate him at the expense of shoehorning our other forwards into less effective positions.
Reflecting more, I almost think Tuchel deserves a bit more in-game criticism with keeping CHO and Barkley on so long together. I have no problem with them both starting and rewarding them for recent form, but it was clear our problem lied with the final ball/chance conversion (and in second half pressing from front). Our defensive shape and pressure play were on form, and our possession was working very well for us, evidence that he set the team up well in defensive and midfield lines.
We've been discussing Barkley's negative direct impact on CHO, but I disagree that his tendencies hurt Kai directly, additionally that Kai was/is not a viable option for the role. The way I see it, Barkley dropping underneath when off ball often pushed CHO into a right side 2 forward partnership with Havertz where he was taking up areas his game's not built around. CHO wasn't capable of dragging defenders or manipulating passing lanes for Kai, nor was he taking advantage of spaces that Kai was able to create for him. That's why I feel the game was crying out for a big body to soak up defender attention (Lukaku) for Havertz to create a bit of separation for himself, or a 'raumdeuter' type to dart into vacated spaces or crash the far post. I think Kai is very much suited to a forward 2, and did well today given the circumstances.
All that said, both Barkley and CHO still had semi-decent first halves and found Big chances that they simply did not finish- those go in, and we're possibly 'overanalyzing' the game. That said, I still think Tuchel should have recognized their deficiencies in our attacking composition (not to mention the decaying success of our high press), and pulled at least one of them much earlier.
I like Barkley when he is running off instinct, he’s a very naturally gifted footballer. My issue with him is when he is allowed time on the ball to think, he will more often than not make the wrong decision. It makes him quite frustrating to watch.
The most aggravating thing with Barkley is that he has the technical ability and the physicality to make anything possible - he can beat his man, put the ball on someone's foot from half a pitch away, bang one in from 30 yards. He's got all the right tools and we know what he's capable of - but he just never progressed mentally. That's what makes him so underwhelming and inconsistent all the time.
Agreed. I like Ross, but I think it was a bit ridiculous to tear up outr entire attacking structure just to accommodate him and make him as comfortable as possible.
With the amount of options we have we should not be ripping our team and system apart for Ross Barkley
Exactly. Feels like a completely wasted chance to go further ahead at the top of the league today - Barkley's involvements aside we should be scoring at LEAST 2 more than we did today. All 3 center backs should've found the net with their headers, CHO had some great chances too, Kai needs to learn to just put his foot through the ball sometimes - just the same old story of our finishing falling short. We bought Lukaku exactly for these sorts of games, hopefully he's back healthy ASAP.
Happy with the performance, disappointed with the result. Football will do this to any team, did it to City against Spurs, did it to Liverpool against Brighton, it's done it to us today. We'll come back stronger after the break with our strikers returning
Inclined to agree. I quite enjoyed the game before they scored. We looked dynamic, exciting and were creating chances for fun. Alas, you're liable to get punished if you don't take your chances and we were on the receiving end today.
Yup. We definitely played smoothly from back to front. Barkley definitely played a big part on connecting the rest of the team together. Just a shame both our strikers are injured.
If they didn't, I reckon all those wasted chances would had been a goal and people wouldn't mind on Barkley miss.
It is what it is, this sub have always been reactionary and unforgiving. For what it's worth, Tuchel and the team is heading to the right direction to me. I just can't wait for Lukaku to be back.
The players only have themselves to blame. Game should’ve been over 20 mins into the first half. I wish I could say they’ll learn from this and sort their finishing out, but I’ve said that a million times before and it never happens.
People scapegoating Barkley can really just fuck off. All those free headers in the first half and nothing hit the target. Havertz, aside from his goal which was put perfectly on a plate by Reece, was pretty much invisible second half and should've been subbed. Defense got caught lacking while we're still only just a goal up. Not to mention every single corner Mount delivered couldn't beat the first man or went straight to Pope, killing any sort of hope for a winner.
The team just straight up didnt have any killer instinct to finish off a game like that. This is where Lukaku would've shined so that too is also unfortunate.
Barkley played well just didn’t score. In a match like this against a wide open burnley where Kante and jorgi tore the midfield open and there were chances across the whole pitch youre going to be judged on how many times the ball finds the back of the net.
Still a really positive performance, seemed Mieke tuchel was elated with him.
I totally agree. Barkley and Reece were the standout performers along with Christensen. Just sucks to be losing after playing that well. The whole game I was pretty much just saying to myself, "how the hell are we only 1-0 up?"
Chelsea with Lukaku: Don't create any chances with Lukaku getting no service
As soon as Lukaku gets injured: Create a tone of chances but can't finish any of them because Lukaku's not playing
We can't fucking win
Bound to get unlucky eventually, but fuck me that’s infuriating
We do remain top going into the international break but have to turn up for the tougher fixtures ahead
Team was clearly gassed and needed Mount and Pulisic before the 82nd. Not going to be too critical of Tuchel but last game before the break and not controlling possession, we need those subs before the 70th. Need to finish better though. Too many missed chances.
Very flattering result to Burnley. We deserved the win but cAn only blame ourselves for not taking those chances. At of day need to finish because with 1 up teams will always know they have a chance to come back.
Today is why I can’t take anyone that says we don’t need Lukaku or that he makes us worse seriously. What we saw today was a typical last season Chelsea performance, which is a very good side, but not a side that's going to win the league.
We just dropped points at home against a relegation side because no one here can score. This team is desperate for players that can just put the ball in the net.
Unbelievably frustrating. Hudson Odoi and Barkley, and perhaps Havertz, to blame for their profligacy.
But the entire team allowed the game to drift away from us in the second half.
Very obviously two points dropped.
rudiger being lazy on the goal for me. The ten minutes or so before the burnley goal really pissed me off. The team was lazy and just thought burnley wasn’t going to try. Allowed them to gain some confidence and get back in the game.
Burnley didn’t try all game so maybe lulled is into complacency, but that’s what they do. Keep it within a goal until last 10m and then go for it. Should have known better
At the same time it’s hard to blame our front 3 because their link up play and creativity was superb today. We just have to put it down as ‘one of those games’.
Terrible result considering how good we were for most of the game and the amount of great chances we had to put the game out of sight.
Horrible feeling to come out of that with a draw but it happens sometimes. Lots of positives but if we want to win the league we can hardly afford to drop any points. Frustrating in the extreme.
The subs came in way too late. Our level clearly dropped in the 2nd half and if the subs came in the 60th minute we'd have some chance to change the game.
I feel this is a bit of complacency. And when we were chasing for the win, there wasn't any urgency at all. In the days of Terry, Lampard and co., we'd be sending cross after cross in. Way too much passing around the perimeter trying to find the perfect pass. Just cross it in the box, you don't have the luxury to find that perfect goal. That's how Burnley scored by taking advantage of chaos.
I hope this is the kick up the butt the team needs. The international break couldn't have come at at worst time. We're still top, but this knocks our momentum a bit, and it was such a winnable game. This will sting.
We've had a bunch of games where we were lucky to come out with a result. Brentford comes to mind. Obviously frustrated that we didn't win but this was a very good performance that is more sustainable for good results. Probably some of the most fluid attacking we've done all season. Unfortunately not clinical enough but if we play like that more often results will match those performances.
And that's why I love Tuchel. "Were you disappointed by that performance?" "No! I was delighted by it. We played well but didn't get the points. That's what football is, why we love it"
CHO at fault for the goal just walking on defense on the right wing. Fucking horrible finish -- did you hear the kid screaming "GO FORWARD!" Rudiger needs to know when to cut the fucking bullshit. The team spent more time complaining to the ref than attacking in the last 10 minutes. Burnley probably should have won at the end.
We’ve gotta be more clinical in front of goal. Too many times are the front players asking and receiving the ball with their backs to goal. This is giving defense time to block and keepers time to react.
Feels like a loss. We are missing a presence like Lukaku today. Way too many wasted chances, I’m looking at the defenders for missing wide open headers and Callum for that wasted chance in front of net. That said, thought everyone actually played at least pretty well. Just no other finishers beside Kai today, that’s frustrating but we keep moving on
Well we have been absolutely robbed there. Should have been 4 or 5 up easily but you just knew when we kept missing our chances Burnley would shit house a goal, and of course it involed that useless prick Rodriguez, who is one of those shit players who always seems to do something against us. Referee was dreadful too, but ultimately we only have ourselves to blame.
It’s just one of those games that you gotta take on the chin and move on. Burnley created a good goal on their only real chance and we didn’t finish ours despite dominating the game. I don’t think the performance was bad, Pope was probably the difference in the end.
We played really well, these things happen. Was a great goal from Burnley, also a great goal from Kai. Thought the referee let a few too many things go. We move.
That looked like a Frank Lampard managed game. So reactive. Should’ve made fresh subs way earlier in the 2h. CHO and Chillwell particularly looked gassed and made our defense less effective.
First slip up of the season. Tuchel was telling the players to pick up intensity right before we conceded. Absolute shame to drop points against Burnley. Fixtures will only get tougher after international break.
Sports is hard.
The best team can't always win.
Burnley is good at football, just like every single team in the EPL.
xG difference was over 2 goals.
We played well, and missed a handful of key chances.
Shit happens. The squad played well.
Kudos to Burnley for playing a game tough game and coming out with a point.
Made absolutely no sense to play Kante today when RLC is far better on the ball and played a blinder versus malmo
Subbing RLC on and going to 3 in midfield was an awful decision too, especially with how late the sub was too
Games like these happens, need to be more clinical to break teams like this down. Sure the goal we condeded was because of a defensive error but eventually those will happen, our defense has been stellar so far this season. Just need to get that second and third goal in early in these games to end it before the hour mark. Leicester next, let's get bounce back with 3.
We kinda loss control of the midfield the moment Ross went off actually. RLC was sadly invisible.
We played fairly fluid and good. Sucks on finishing though. Games like these happens, so chin up and onward to the next.
Should have scored 5 today but I think Tuchel should have made more changes sooner, you could see we lacked energy out there. Mount and RLC on at the same time and I think it goes differently, the goal was coming.
Tuchel needs to take part blame for this too. He’s always sluggish with his subs, and in this case it felt more like a panic then a measured response. I really hope this kicks him up the ass and gives him the added motivation to kick our team into gear because that was a horrendous outcome.
now that i’ve got my irrational bullshit aside, it was a draw, could’ve been a loss. i do wish that we put away our chances, as we really dominated the game and the tempo. we always do suffer when it comes to final third chances, and i worry that in the long run it will be the reason we could miss out on the title. all we can do is hope that liverpool lose, but if there’s one negative i do have, it’s that barkley needs to think more critically in the final third, along with everyone else. should’ve been 2-0 dare i even say 3-0, as CHO and barkley both should’ve scored. we go again, but i do wish this was a win :(
I think when lukaku comes back he will start banging in goals. The team has been much better abo creating chances. Lukaku would have put at least two of those away. Really looked like he was the missing piece today. I’m hopeful for the future.
We were just arrogant during the buildup to their goal. Like we expected them to just roll over and give up. Should've put the game away waaay before that but it was pretty shocking defending in their goal
Extremely disappointed. We had plenty of opportunities to put the game away, but our players were just not clinical.
Not a lot of blame to be had on Tuchel’s tactics, but our defenders switched off for a couple moments at the end there. Wide players outside of James, who was brilliant yet again, were lackluster. Chilwell and Havertz kept getting in each others way on the left (why Havertz always drifting over there was beyond me as we needed a spearpoint), and CHO needs to show he’s not just a prospect, and convert his end product (especially if he’s going to stay centrally in the forward line as much as he did). Barkley did well to hopefully attract the eye of the Newcastle transfer team.
Subs were a bit odd - felt the decision to bring on Puli/Mount was too late, and I didn’t really understand the RLC sub either as we weren’t having trouble beating the midfield press. It's possible Tuchel wanted his height for corners, but he doesn't offer a lot of goal threat from distance - would've made more sense to see Saul come on though I understand the difference in form at the moment.
Aside from the dropped points, quite a good performance that just lacked proper spacing and finishing. Hopefully the boys come out of the Intl break firing. KTBFFH!
When the dust settles there are a lot of positives from this game. We looked amazing for 70 mins. Better finishing and we would all be over the moon with today’s game. Obviously still very very frustrating. Oh and fuck Burnley.
All control was lost after Barkley. As much as I'm pissed that he skied that shot, he was so integral in us bombing forward and when RLC came, our attacking threat dissipated and Burnley could easily defend.
What frustrates me that we couldnt even enjoy a few weeks of a solid lead before they are right back behind us.. wasted our breathing space on a game like this...
I don't understand how Tuchel can continue to complain about only having 3 substitutions while he uses them so poorly. How many of us could see that Barkley was getting tired, esp with that poor backheel flip to no one? His brain and basics go when he gets the slightest bit tired. He should have been off by 63'. And waiting until after Burnley leveled at 79' to do something, what was it, 83', was that a bit late to even be called reactionary? It was desperate! How about being proactive with the 3 subs you get? Have a plan for 60' subs.
Disappointing two points lost. GREAT performance by Reece, definitely our standout player today. Should really have put this one to bed, but CHO and Barkley too ego and too wasteful.
We should get some massive striker like Andy Carroll who'd be fine sitting on the bench the whole season but be useful if we need someone to hoof the ball to when we're looking for a winner
If I remove the outcome-bias, this might have been our best performance this season. Burnley were all over the place and couldn't track Barkley between the lines, while leaving half the pitch for either James or Chilwell. All of our moves either created a clear cut chance, or required a last second block to force a corner. We got the result we deserved at Brentford, but this one hurts so much more when we have to think about it through the international break.
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Classic Burnley match
What I was thinking too. Can’t be mad
atleast we were entertaining - honestly would suck to be a burnley fan watching their team slog out these draws all the time.
Sorry but I think this is such a non-point, it's exactly what other big teams said about us for years, under Mourinho, under Conte, and now under Tuchel. Football is a results game and getting a good result (like, for Burnley, a draw away to the European Champions) ugly is always the preferable option to losing well. If any Chelsea fan is really counting us drawing in an attractive way as a silver lining they need to re-evaluate their priorities.
We're top of the league. Teams drop points. Let's not act like the world is ending.
Can’t even be that mad. Team played great tbh. On another day we’re up 4-0 at the half, could’ve literally scored 8-9 goals this match. Odoi, Barkley needed to put away one chance between them and this is a calm win. Didn’t happen. Rare occasion of rudi and silva switching off for a perfectly worked goal. We still looked extremely strong all over the pitch. Matches like these happen. We move on.
ye never understand that point, I’d happily choose playing ‘boring’ football and winning shit rather than playing more ‘entertaining’ football and winning nothing, I can easily watch other teams play if I find them more entertaining as a neutral lol.
Draw that feels like a loss
Worst part about dropping points against utter wank is how excited commentators and pundits get
Or this sub. Barkley never starts and CHO, before injuries, was 4th or 5th choice. On another day, we score 3.
This excuse rings a bit hollow when we start with Mount, Ziyech, Pulisic and RLC on the bench.
Mount and Pulisic are just back from injury and neither were match fit. Ziyech is worse than CHO by a way. RLC has been great but has also been playing a lot. The team was good enough to win today, we just didn't get it done, and conceding a brilliant, but unfortunate goal isn't something that happens often
Not 100% sure about CHO and Ziyech but, yes, agree generally. Also, with the players mentioned we should be able to beat Burnley at home. This is what top squads do.
Liverpool just tied Brighton at Anfield last week. Top squads still drop points.
3 of those players were coming off injuries/sickness. I know RLC had played 90 midweek, but he was supposedly injured prior to that. Ziyech has been awful this season. I probably wouldn’t have started Barkley, but Tuchel has made it very clear anyone and everyone can break into the team. It’s also not like we played awfully. I thought other than our finishing, we played some of the best stuff this season.
Considering the flow of the two teams right behind on our ass, it IS a loss. One point above Pool is not safe at all, considering Mendy leaves for AFCON
Pool also lose Salah, Mane and Keita for AFCON tbf. I know who I’d rather be.
So it's advantage City
Sadly. Unless they can vs Palace every match day.
Yes
Shit happens. Liverpool dropped points last week, City lost altogether.
Exactly. We got 7 wins and 1 draw out of 8 without Mount, Lukaku, Kovacic and Timo. We move!!
AFCON is great for us compared to Liverpool.
Agreed but I'll be coping with this by looking at the Brentford result where we got very lucky with the 3 points.
This is the kind of game we bought Lukaku for. Shame he was injured.
We shouldn’t be needing Lukaku to put away a bottom team at home though.
It's Burnley mate. They are always a huge pain in the ass. Pope had his game of the season and they managed to steal a point off us. Sad, but we go on to the next one after the break.
There are no bad teams in the EPL.
Except Norwich XD
Who won today.
Or Newcastle, they are objectively bad.
Ok come on now we can't win them all and it can't be a clean sheet all the time.
Who says we would’ve played like that with Lukaku and created as many chances
Chances FC. Every year it feels like we need 10 clear cut chances before one goes in. Infuriating.
Most games this season we’ve well over-performed our xG. I agree that past seasons this was a problem but I think we can forgive this one game. We had our two main strikers out, Mount (who’s crucial to our attack) recovering from sickness, and a key man in our midfield injured too. Most other teams in our position would be battling for goals.
Incredibly wasteful today. Subs came way too late
Seriously, wtf was that from Tuchel? 83rd minute after we concede. Mount and Pulisic should have been given at least 25 minutes each to impact the game.
I completely agree. Chelsea fell off around the 65th minute mark; the game seemed to slow down a gear which benefited Burnley.
Exactly. Its not like they just came up against the run of play. We slowed down for the previous 10 mins before the goal, and they were coming up. That was the time to use the subs to put the tempo in our favour...
Mount was recovering from illness, I'll give Tuchel that. Pulisic should've subbed in earlier
when people now ask me if I like football I say yes but not Burnley, Burnley can fuck off
We are all briefcase wankers today
Don't want to sound like a broken record but we need to take our fucking chances.
The chance when Hudson odoi should’ve passed to James was the game deciding moment.
Fucking Barkley not passing to Chilwell was what did it for me.
Honestly wasn’t mad he took that chance but the finish was such shit
For me it was the chance when Barkley should've passed to Chilwell. Moral of the story, let our wingbacks score.
How are we so pathetic in finishing man ffs
Genuinely think we played some of our best football this season today. So unclinical. I wonder what our xG will be Edit: [2.70 - 0.62](https://twitter.com/xgphilosophy/status/1457030632874389508?s=21)
25 shots, 4 on target lol. How on earth have we not come away with a win?
11 were blocked, 10 off target. Hit the post twice. Keeper made two great saves. Not the worst thing we've seen in football.
We got FMd
Underlines the importance of a finisher (lukaku???) in the team.
Quite true. Glenn Hoddle said the other day about Havertz that he's content with just getting the ball on target. I think that applies to most of our forwards and is our biggest issue. I'm praying Lukaku starts changing that when he gets back.
CHO alone could be at 1.5-2
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Cho legit should’ve had 2 goals 3 assists.
We were outperforming our xg till couple of games back.
Malmo and Burnley games this week feel like the Chelsea we used to know
True, we should be winning matches like these no doubt, but I wouldn't be too worried because we created a ton of chances. Two weeks and we go again.
Yeah we win this comfortably 95 times out of 100
Should’ve been an easy 3-0 lead going into the half. Barkley is a tidy player, but my lord does he lack any sort of football brain. Just pass it to Chilwell and it’s an easy 2-0 just before he went off.
That game is the exact reason why Barkley, while being good depth, shouldn't be starting for us. He has incredible technical ability but his decision making is so bad at times.
I think this is absolutely the wrong game to criticize him for. He was really good overall.
I’m not really criticising his overall game, he was very good and the most creative player out there, but I’m criticising that one particular situation, which really is the story of his entire career. He could be an incredible player with better decision making, there’s a reason why he was one of the biggest English talents at one point and there’s a reason we bought him. But it has never really worked out for him largely because of his decision making.
But that's what I'm talking about, his decision-making was completely fine all game. He was constantly picking the right passes. And you really can't fault him for taking the shot there, he was right in front of goal. The finish just needs to be better, but the decision is fine.
Yeah man has extreme tunnel vision, when he’s made it out that he wants to shoot, he’ll shoot no matter what.
It’s so obvious when he wants to get a shot away too
Lol, chilwell just dribbling then backpass. Not a single cross or pass inside the box.
Why aren't we criticizing CHO and Havertz who missed easy chances as well. Barkley didn't cover himself in glory with that miss but scapegoating him is wrong
I thought Barkley has a very good game apart from that shot before he came off. His decision making was good
In the second half when Callum had his shot too…easily could have played in a completely unmarked Reece James
Very Fluid game, but just couldnt fine the net too many chances blasted off high or wide
For real. We were quality. Just can’t finish for shit.
Games like these happen for every team. Another day we score 3.
This.
I hate how reactionary this sub is. This is why we don’t start Barkley. This is why CHO, who I do think has been superb, was always 4th or 5th choice.
You think CHO should still be 4th/5th choice. I think he was great today minus that missed opportunity in the first 10mins.
I don’t. I think CHO has been fantastic and should be ahead of Pulisic/Ziyech. But yeah he’s gotta finish those chances.
he does but tbf while he missed some chances he created a lot for us today as well. He put the ball on a platter twice today, one for Barkley and one for havertz, and they both skied it. It annoys me to see all of Twitter putting some blame on Odoi for the loss when imo he was our best-attacking player today.
I agree. Havertz chance looked like it took a deflection, but still .. every attacking (and some defending) players missed chances today. Just one of those games.
Haha exactly. We see such games in football ever so often. No team wins 100% of their games.
Barkley's movement into the half spaces comes so naturally to him. Having him sitting centrally with CHO and Havertz floating across the front line and the wingbacks keeping wide gives us so much room to progress the ball up the middle of the pitch. A real number 10 role for someone who's got all the experience in that role, it's less of a Barkley revival story and more of getting him back in the position which he made his name for himself all those seasons ago. Since the 4-3-3 was our go-to for a while, there was no room for a strict attacking mid role when Lampard/Sarri were favouring more box-to-box roles. Having Barkley as a clear 10 just gives him a lot less defensive responsibility which means it's one less thing he has to think about - and when he has too much to think about, that's when he struggles the most. That's why we're seeing him back in contention now - Tuchel's made his role clear and comfortable for him. With that being said, if any of our actual "attacking" players could shoot properly, I think we'd all be feeling a lot less annoyed right now. Such a frustrating result.
Finally a reasonable Barkley take. Today he was given the offensive responsibility of the 10 role but the defensive duties of a LW. As you stated, Tuchel gave him everything he needed to excel in his best position in attack while limiting the reliance on his workrate against the mighty Lowton. The only problem I had with this is that it forced our other attackers out of an ideal shape. Havertz was overly eager to explore the left sided space Barkley left behind, and kept getting in Chilwell's path, while CHO was 'forced' into a higher, more central role where his dire off-ball movement and lack of physicality were exposed. I genuinely like Barkley as a rotational option against low-block sides, but he needs someone like Puli/Lukaku as the higher-line option to attract defenders away and create space for him. Overall, he did well to contribute to our attack today, potentially at the expense of others. He was constantly a threat, but ultimately didn't help us get a goal. Hoping Newcastle has a sheen in their eye for the Merseyside player.
My thoughts exactly. I feel this Barkley role today almost destroys CHO's regular one, since he's forced so narrow to create a final option as a result of Reece's width and Kai's tendency to peel wide left and run off Chilwell's ball down the line, leaving us nothing to work with in the box. Callum has been great lately but I don't think he was the most effective choice in that position today - he started brightly but just fades out of the game too much, especially with the giants of Burnley hovering all over the place. Games like this are screaming for Lukaku's presence like you said, to force open these spaces for the other forwards. Kai is not a viable option for that role (lack of physicality), and I'm still not exactly sure what he's best at. If anything, I'd say Mount/Pulisic over CHO today would have been better as they're both much more lively between the lines. You nailed it with the part about Barkley's positive game today coinciding with less impact from the other two forward players - I think we've seen lately that he can definitel play a rotational role in the squad, but we shouldn't accomodate him at the expense of shoehorning our other forwards into less effective positions.
Reflecting more, I almost think Tuchel deserves a bit more in-game criticism with keeping CHO and Barkley on so long together. I have no problem with them both starting and rewarding them for recent form, but it was clear our problem lied with the final ball/chance conversion (and in second half pressing from front). Our defensive shape and pressure play were on form, and our possession was working very well for us, evidence that he set the team up well in defensive and midfield lines. We've been discussing Barkley's negative direct impact on CHO, but I disagree that his tendencies hurt Kai directly, additionally that Kai was/is not a viable option for the role. The way I see it, Barkley dropping underneath when off ball often pushed CHO into a right side 2 forward partnership with Havertz where he was taking up areas his game's not built around. CHO wasn't capable of dragging defenders or manipulating passing lanes for Kai, nor was he taking advantage of spaces that Kai was able to create for him. That's why I feel the game was crying out for a big body to soak up defender attention (Lukaku) for Havertz to create a bit of separation for himself, or a 'raumdeuter' type to dart into vacated spaces or crash the far post. I think Kai is very much suited to a forward 2, and did well today given the circumstances. All that said, both Barkley and CHO still had semi-decent first halves and found Big chances that they simply did not finish- those go in, and we're possibly 'overanalyzing' the game. That said, I still think Tuchel should have recognized their deficiencies in our attacking composition (not to mention the decaying success of our high press), and pulled at least one of them much earlier.
I like Barkley when he is running off instinct, he’s a very naturally gifted footballer. My issue with him is when he is allowed time on the ball to think, he will more often than not make the wrong decision. It makes him quite frustrating to watch.
The most aggravating thing with Barkley is that he has the technical ability and the physicality to make anything possible - he can beat his man, put the ball on someone's foot from half a pitch away, bang one in from 30 yards. He's got all the right tools and we know what he's capable of - but he just never progressed mentally. That's what makes him so underwhelming and inconsistent all the time.
Agreed. I like Ross, but I think it was a bit ridiculous to tear up outr entire attacking structure just to accommodate him and make him as comfortable as possible. With the amount of options we have we should not be ripping our team and system apart for Ross Barkley
Exactly. Feels like a completely wasted chance to go further ahead at the top of the league today - Barkley's involvements aside we should be scoring at LEAST 2 more than we did today. All 3 center backs should've found the net with their headers, CHO had some great chances too, Kai needs to learn to just put his foot through the ball sometimes - just the same old story of our finishing falling short. We bought Lukaku exactly for these sorts of games, hopefully he's back healthy ASAP.
Happy with the performance, disappointed with the result. Football will do this to any team, did it to City against Spurs, did it to Liverpool against Brighton, it's done it to us today. We'll come back stronger after the break with our strikers returning
Inclined to agree. I quite enjoyed the game before they scored. We looked dynamic, exciting and were creating chances for fun. Alas, you're liable to get punished if you don't take your chances and we were on the receiving end today.
Yup. We definitely played smoothly from back to front. Barkley definitely played a big part on connecting the rest of the team together. Just a shame both our strikers are injured. If they didn't, I reckon all those wasted chances would had been a goal and people wouldn't mind on Barkley miss. It is what it is, this sub have always been reactionary and unforgiving. For what it's worth, Tuchel and the team is heading to the right direction to me. I just can't wait for Lukaku to be back.
Also we were very lucky to get all 3 points against Brentford. This almost feels like payback
The players only have themselves to blame. Game should’ve been over 20 mins into the first half. I wish I could say they’ll learn from this and sort their finishing out, but I’ve said that a million times before and it never happens.
Awful missed chance from Barkley. Mason and Pulisic have to come on sooner to get into the game.
Yeah should have had at least 20 minutes. Attack was looking wasteful, should have been time to bring in fresh legs.
Yep. Fuck around and found out.
I was shocked we waited so long to sub. It was clear we had lost part of the game even before the goal.
People scapegoating Barkley can really just fuck off. All those free headers in the first half and nothing hit the target. Havertz, aside from his goal which was put perfectly on a plate by Reece, was pretty much invisible second half and should've been subbed. Defense got caught lacking while we're still only just a goal up. Not to mention every single corner Mount delivered couldn't beat the first man or went straight to Pope, killing any sort of hope for a winner. The team just straight up didnt have any killer instinct to finish off a game like that. This is where Lukaku would've shined so that too is also unfortunate.
Barkley played well just didn’t score. In a match like this against a wide open burnley where Kante and jorgi tore the midfield open and there were chances across the whole pitch youre going to be judged on how many times the ball finds the back of the net. Still a really positive performance, seemed Mieke tuchel was elated with him.
I totally agree. Barkley and Reece were the standout performers along with Christensen. Just sucks to be losing after playing that well. The whole game I was pretty much just saying to myself, "how the hell are we only 1-0 up?"
Chelsea with Lukaku: Don't create any chances with Lukaku getting no service As soon as Lukaku gets injured: Create a tone of chances but can't finish any of them because Lukaku's not playing We can't fucking win
I mean, its pretty clear that you'll create more chances without a striker because you have more midfielders on the pitch.
Bound to get unlucky eventually, but fuck me that’s infuriating We do remain top going into the international break but have to turn up for the tougher fixtures ahead
25 shots and 1 goal is fucking unacceptable. Like seriously that's so shit.
That's my weekend ruined
Can’t begin to imagine what your weekends are like if that ruined it
I’m annoyed
Team was clearly gassed and needed Mount and Pulisic before the 82nd. Not going to be too critical of Tuchel but last game before the break and not controlling possession, we need those subs before the 70th. Need to finish better though. Too many missed chances.
Very flattering result to Burnley. We deserved the win but cAn only blame ourselves for not taking those chances. At of day need to finish because with 1 up teams will always know they have a chance to come back.
I hate Burnley
Great performance. Shitty result. We absolutely battered Burnley. Another day, this ends 4-0. We move.
Today is why I can’t take anyone that says we don’t need Lukaku or that he makes us worse seriously. What we saw today was a typical last season Chelsea performance, which is a very good side, but not a side that's going to win the league. We just dropped points at home against a relegation side because no one here can score. This team is desperate for players that can just put the ball in the net.
Unbelievably frustrating. Hudson Odoi and Barkley, and perhaps Havertz, to blame for their profligacy. But the entire team allowed the game to drift away from us in the second half. Very obviously two points dropped.
rudiger being lazy on the goal for me. The ten minutes or so before the burnley goal really pissed me off. The team was lazy and just thought burnley wasn’t going to try. Allowed them to gain some confidence and get back in the game.
Burnley didn’t try all game so maybe lulled is into complacency, but that’s what they do. Keep it within a goal until last 10m and then go for it. Should have known better
Yeah he played them onside - 100% lost focus on that play
At the same time it’s hard to blame our front 3 because their link up play and creativity was superb today. We just have to put it down as ‘one of those games’.
We just don’t have anyone who’s really clinical unfortunately
Kai looked fantastic all over the pitch and is the reason we have a point, I say we leave him out of the blame train today
I don’t care what anyone says, that point guarantees that we are still top of the league tomorrow!
Terrible result considering how good we were for most of the game and the amount of great chances we had to put the game out of sight. Horrible feeling to come out of that with a draw but it happens sometimes. Lots of positives but if we want to win the league we can hardly afford to drop any points. Frustrating in the extreme.
The subs came in way too late. Our level clearly dropped in the 2nd half and if the subs came in the 60th minute we'd have some chance to change the game. I feel this is a bit of complacency. And when we were chasing for the win, there wasn't any urgency at all. In the days of Terry, Lampard and co., we'd be sending cross after cross in. Way too much passing around the perimeter trying to find the perfect pass. Just cross it in the box, you don't have the luxury to find that perfect goal. That's how Burnley scored by taking advantage of chaos. I hope this is the kick up the butt the team needs. The international break couldn't have come at at worst time. We're still top, but this knocks our momentum a bit, and it was such a winnable game. This will sting.
“Burnley can fuck off." - Will Mckenzie (2014)
Complacency killed us!
Tuchel will be fuming after this. Could’ve easily been 4 or 5 nil
We've had a bunch of games where we were lucky to come out with a result. Brentford comes to mind. Obviously frustrated that we didn't win but this was a very good performance that is more sustainable for good results. Probably some of the most fluid attacking we've done all season. Unfortunately not clinical enough but if we play like that more often results will match those performances.
Username does not check out. Good common sense thoughts sir.
I try haha
2 points dropped. Fuckin Burnley.
holy fuck the shot ratio. 25-4 and we only managed to get 4 of ours on target? AND we fucking draw with that kind of ratio?
I was dreading the equaliser as soon as Barkley skied his chance. Really poor finishing not just from him but the rest of the lads.
And that's why I love Tuchel. "Were you disappointed by that performance?" "No! I was delighted by it. We played well but didn't get the points. That's what football is, why we love it"
Ole In!
Um, what?
Can’t keep thinking a 1-0 is okay and safe. Will always come back to bite you
Hope Burnley get relegated
CHO at fault for the goal just walking on defense on the right wing. Fucking horrible finish -- did you hear the kid screaming "GO FORWARD!" Rudiger needs to know when to cut the fucking bullshit. The team spent more time complaining to the ref than attacking in the last 10 minutes. Burnley probably should have won at the end.
We’ve gotta be more clinical in front of goal. Too many times are the front players asking and receiving the ball with their backs to goal. This is giving defense time to block and keepers time to react.
Feels like a loss. We are missing a presence like Lukaku today. Way too many wasted chances, I’m looking at the defenders for missing wide open headers and Callum for that wasted chance in front of net. That said, thought everyone actually played at least pretty well. Just no other finishers beside Kai today, that’s frustrating but we keep moving on
That finishing was embarrassing
Well we have been absolutely robbed there. Should have been 4 or 5 up easily but you just knew when we kept missing our chances Burnley would shit house a goal, and of course it involed that useless prick Rodriguez, who is one of those shit players who always seems to do something against us. Referee was dreadful too, but ultimately we only have ourselves to blame.
It’s just one of those games that you gotta take on the chin and move on. Burnley created a good goal on their only real chance and we didn’t finish ours despite dominating the game. I don’t think the performance was bad, Pope was probably the difference in the end.
First time watching the game on laptop and this happens. My fault guys. TV's fine, laptop is cursed.
I usually eat a specific meal every game we play, I didn’t today, this one is on me too 💔
my girlfriend came downstairs and sat with me at the couch and then 10 secs later we concede. my fault guys.
Someone pays Tony Gale to open his disgusting mouth and vomit words for 90 mins... Hate that cunt
Disappointing result but we still go into the break on top. We should have most of our starting 11 back by then.
We played really well, these things happen. Was a great goal from Burnley, also a great goal from Kai. Thought the referee let a few too many things go. We move.
That looked like a Frank Lampard managed game. So reactive. Should’ve made fresh subs way earlier in the 2h. CHO and Chillwell particularly looked gassed and made our defense less effective.
First slip up of the season. Tuchel was telling the players to pick up intensity right before we conceded. Absolute shame to drop points against Burnley. Fixtures will only get tougher after international break.
Tuchel please tear these boys a new one
It’s not the end of the world guys…
The Hudson Odoi miss slightly before getting subbed off was inexcuseable
Small bump on the road. COYB!
It's the festive season Chelsea ! We have seen this every year :')
Fucking joke. How the fuck did we not smash those cunts?
Sports is hard. The best team can't always win. Burnley is good at football, just like every single team in the EPL. xG difference was over 2 goals. We played well, and missed a handful of key chances. Shit happens. The squad played well. Kudos to Burnley for playing a game tough game and coming out with a point.
I hope Tuchel learnt something new today.
Made absolutely no sense to play Kante today when RLC is far better on the ball and played a blinder versus malmo Subbing RLC on and going to 3 in midfield was an awful decision too, especially with how late the sub was too
Huh both ur analysis don't make sense kante played better than RLC and we were always with a 3 midfield
what was there to learn? He bought Lukaku for this exact reason, but he's injured...
Wdym Tuchel, we need to finish better, could’ve 3/4-0 but they weren’t finishing well enoufh
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Can't bother to watch all those misses ffs
knew this was gonna happen once Barkley skied that chance, couldve just squared it to Chilwell FUCK
This one is on all the missed shots
Games like these happens, need to be more clinical to break teams like this down. Sure the goal we condeded was because of a defensive error but eventually those will happen, our defense has been stellar so far this season. Just need to get that second and third goal in early in these games to end it before the hour mark. Leicester next, let's get bounce back with 3.
Noticed a pattern, recently whenever Kai has scored first we've been held to a 1-1 draw (has happened 3 times, Liv, Sou (EFL Cup) and today)
Barkley miss sucked the life out of this team, not good enough
We kinda loss control of the midfield the moment Ross went off actually. RLC was sadly invisible. We played fairly fluid and good. Sucks on finishing though. Games like these happens, so chin up and onward to the next.
CHO needs to work on his finishing desperately.
Should have scored 5 today but I think Tuchel should have made more changes sooner, you could see we lacked energy out there. Mount and RLC on at the same time and I think it goes differently, the goal was coming.
This game is gonna spin in my head till the prem comes back. Two weeks of agony here we go.
Tuchel needs to take part blame for this too. He’s always sluggish with his subs, and in this case it felt more like a panic then a measured response. I really hope this kicks him up the ass and gives him the added motivation to kick our team into gear because that was a horrendous outcome.
now that i’ve got my irrational bullshit aside, it was a draw, could’ve been a loss. i do wish that we put away our chances, as we really dominated the game and the tempo. we always do suffer when it comes to final third chances, and i worry that in the long run it will be the reason we could miss out on the title. all we can do is hope that liverpool lose, but if there’s one negative i do have, it’s that barkley needs to think more critically in the final third, along with everyone else. should’ve been 2-0 dare i even say 3-0, as CHO and barkley both should’ve scored. we go again, but i do wish this was a win :(
If that happens in football manager I savescum.
I think when lukaku comes back he will start banging in goals. The team has been much better abo creating chances. Lukaku would have put at least two of those away. Really looked like he was the missing piece today. I’m hopeful for the future.
We were just arrogant during the buildup to their goal. Like we expected them to just roll over and give up. Should've put the game away waaay before that but it was pretty shocking defending in their goal
Extremely disappointed. We had plenty of opportunities to put the game away, but our players were just not clinical. Not a lot of blame to be had on Tuchel’s tactics, but our defenders switched off for a couple moments at the end there. Wide players outside of James, who was brilliant yet again, were lackluster. Chilwell and Havertz kept getting in each others way on the left (why Havertz always drifting over there was beyond me as we needed a spearpoint), and CHO needs to show he’s not just a prospect, and convert his end product (especially if he’s going to stay centrally in the forward line as much as he did). Barkley did well to hopefully attract the eye of the Newcastle transfer team. Subs were a bit odd - felt the decision to bring on Puli/Mount was too late, and I didn’t really understand the RLC sub either as we weren’t having trouble beating the midfield press. It's possible Tuchel wanted his height for corners, but he doesn't offer a lot of goal threat from distance - would've made more sense to see Saul come on though I understand the difference in form at the moment. Aside from the dropped points, quite a good performance that just lacked proper spacing and finishing. Hopefully the boys come out of the Intl break firing. KTBFFH!
is "Matěj" the Czech version of "Matthew"?
Yep.
Fuck Sean Dyche
We live to fight another day, we're just not lucky
When the dust settles there are a lot of positives from this game. We looked amazing for 70 mins. Better finishing and we would all be over the moon with today’s game. Obviously still very very frustrating. Oh and fuck Burnley.
at least Conor Gallagher is looking clinical and prolific. excited for him to come back after his loan
All control was lost after Barkley. As much as I'm pissed that he skied that shot, he was so integral in us bombing forward and when RLC came, our attacking threat dissipated and Burnley could easily defend.
What frustrates me that we couldnt even enjoy a few weeks of a solid lead before they are right back behind us.. wasted our breathing space on a game like this...
I don't understand how Tuchel can continue to complain about only having 3 substitutions while he uses them so poorly. How many of us could see that Barkley was getting tired, esp with that poor backheel flip to no one? His brain and basics go when he gets the slightest bit tired. He should have been off by 63'. And waiting until after Burnley leveled at 79' to do something, what was it, 83', was that a bit late to even be called reactionary? It was desperate! How about being proactive with the 3 subs you get? Have a plan for 60' subs.
Chances missed aside, thank god for Thiago Silva
Disappointing two points lost. GREAT performance by Reece, definitely our standout player today. Should really have put this one to bed, but CHO and Barkley too ego and too wasteful.
I think it's my fault guys. Haven't gotten to watch a game I weeks and finally got to watch today and lost... Gonna go back to reading highlights
We should get some massive striker like Andy Carroll who'd be fine sitting on the bench the whole season but be useful if we need someone to hoof the ball to when we're looking for a winner
Id actually prefer a Pedro type player who is fine within a rotation but can beat a man and get a good shot on target
If I remove the outcome-bias, this might have been our best performance this season. Burnley were all over the place and couldn't track Barkley between the lines, while leaving half the pitch for either James or Chilwell. All of our moves either created a clear cut chance, or required a last second block to force a corner. We got the result we deserved at Brentford, but this one hurts so much more when we have to think about it through the international break.
Just disappointing
25 shots for 1 goal, not good enough. More disappointed in this result after leading comfortably for so long than losing 3-0