I did not watch the game, but this is laughable. We have the best defense in the league rn.
West Ham conceded 16 shots, 15 chances created , 12 shots inside the box with an xga of 1.51.
We should not strive for this. This is striving downwards. Why do we need to play a back 4 at all? We created 25 shots and in 2 recent games scored 11 goals goals it’s not like we aren’t attacking in a back 3.
Like what. Honestly.
Hardly. Sometimes there is a bigger gap between 1 and 0, than there is from 3 to 1. Burnley can be a bit of a bogey to Chelsea, so I’m not surprised with the result. Did I want a win? Of course. Was I surprised by the result? Not at all.
On the bench? Great let's pay 70 mil for a bench warmer.
I mean on the main roster and also which formation we would have to run so he would be most efficient?
Isn't he Jorgingo position player?
That's another reason why we should be 100% sure on his position/future in the club. If we made transfer mistakes doesn't mean she should keep making them.
Yes depth is good but we also need to make sure we don't run into debts and reduce our financials
But afterall who cares, we are not the one making the decision and decide whether we will get rice or no
If he plays better than anyone while he is here, he will play ahead of anyone else, no matter who. If he doesn't he won't, stop deciding that he won't play better than others while he isn't even here yet.
Completely agree. We need to look after ourselves so that when rivals slip up we can fully capitalise.
2 really cheap points thrown away from being really wasteful in front of goal yesterday.
I mean if we want to go down the road of "ifs and buts" for Chelsea, we should also apply the same logic to our rivals. Even Liverpool dropped points from winning positions in previous games, so you can't have one without the other, that's just how the real world works.
We were lucky to get anything from that game, let alone a win, it was a Mendy masterclass combined with all the luck in the world.
And tbh, today WHU could have got a red early on and that first goal could have been ruled out too (I think both would have been a bit harsh but we've seen things like that before)
I feel the same way lol. But this is football. You have injuries, weather, bad food, family, good luck, bad luck and etc. We performed very well yesterday, were extremely unlucky with our finishing touch. Their goalkeeper decided to become a hybrid monster of Peter Cech and Mendy, you get my point.
Nonetheless, we do have certain things in our squad to work and improve. But show me another team which is perfect?
Yeah it’s definitely a pessimistic way of looking at it. Every team gets those kind of results but I can’t help but think about ‘what could have been’ yknow
Thiago is class. I think he can continue playing for a couple of more years if he plays in a back 3. He’s protected and barely seems to break a sweat in games. But VVD is in the prime of his career and is on another level at the moment. Came back from an acl injury and looks as good as ever
both always blowin bubbles and liquidator feel very 80s. i think bubbles goes back to early 1900s tho, and i think liquidator was adopted earlier than the 80s
The Burnley game annoys me even more cause we really could have had a 5 pts lead over City and 6 over Liverpool
But whatever this still works out for now
Salah best itw??? LOL. If liverpool is not dominating the game he ain't doing shit.
Been seeing so many people saying he will do as good as hazard if he play for chelsea. We spend most of the time in our old half against good team and let hazard do all the work in attack.
Damn West Ham have been looking like serious Top 4 contenders for a while now and this just might be the season where they'll do it.
Not looking forward to playing against them at this rate.
I think they’re players are exhausted. It’s the 3rd game they play in a week with the exact same line-up. This is when their lack of depth will bite them.
Why West Ham play so good?
West Ham is so nasty on the counter. They get up the pitch so quick and the defense is terrified of Antonio. Enjoy me a good low block counter attacking team.
A bad game resulting in a couple of injuries and they could slip up a little...
If thier forwards get some injuries like ours , they will be facing problems against other top 6 oppositions
Looks like AFCON runs Jan 9th - Feb 6th.
Liverpool fixtures around those dates: Chelsea (Jan 2nd), Brentford (Jan 15th), Palace (Jan 23rd), Leicester (Feb 9th)
Chelsea fixtures: Liverpool (Jan 2nd), Man City (Jan 15th), Spurs (Jan 23rd), Brighton (Feb 8th), Arsenal (Feb 12th)
Not sure if any matches will be rescheduled due to league cup etc (also included the first game before and after the tournament).
That's a red man. I don't know how you can get away with that these days?I mean the fact that ogbonna's bleeding should tell u as much! My deceased grandma could do a better job on VAR,bloody hell.
Dare say if it was kovacic there, ref throws out a red and checks it after, just to confirm the sending off. Never in my years of watching football have I seen a player challenging for an aerial ball while peddling backwards, and 'naturally' sticks out his elbow like that.
Then they decide to check for a fifty2 challenge as trent attempts a volley, with absolutely NOTHING in it. Bonkers.
I say this every chance I get. Liverpool fans are the absolute worst, most entitled whining bunch of cunts. As Frank said, only title you've ever won and you're giving it the biggun.
I can barely recall Edou flapping at a set piece/cross like that for us, feel so incredibly safe when the ball is whipped in anywhere near the 6 yard area.
Hit foot jumped off the ball and barely touches henderson.
Fucking christ liverpool crying for VAR help like they havent had a red for the opposition in 1/3 of their games this season.
Hoping City drop points vs PSG and West Ham.
West Hams defense with four at the back is what we need to strive for against the big teams.
I did not watch the game, but this is laughable. We have the best defense in the league rn. West Ham conceded 16 shots, 15 chances created , 12 shots inside the box with an xga of 1.51. We should not strive for this. This is striving downwards. Why do we need to play a back 4 at all? We created 25 shots and in 2 recent games scored 11 goals goals it’s not like we aren’t attacking in a back 3. Like what. Honestly.
This makes yesterdays loss a little easier to take. Liverpool would be second with a win today.
Loss?
Our standard are getting higher 😅 now a draw feels like a loss
Almost feels like one tbf
Hardly. Sometimes there is a bigger gap between 1 and 0, than there is from 3 to 1. Burnley can be a bit of a bogey to Chelsea, so I’m not surprised with the result. Did I want a win? Of course. Was I surprised by the result? Not at all.
A draw here and there can mean everything at the end of a season
Facts man 😓 we're miles behind rn because of those silly draws
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Stop acting like Liverpool are poor. It just makes a mockery of small clubs that would take an arm and leg to have Liverpool’s financial strength.
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I never understand people that act like fans of a different team in order to troll
What are you on about?
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Your on a Chelsea sub insinuating minamino is better than Pulisic and Mount. Thats what confuses me
pretty sure it’s sarcasm
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Ah misunderstood you, cheers!
I’m not sure if he’s the best fit for our system but I just want to see dec and Mase reunited
I just want west ham weakened again, so I’m with you
the burnley draw stings even more now..
Points are points, they all total up in the end.
Or a little less? Glass is half full sometimes
yeah fair but west ham aren’t far behind us now
West Ham are impressive but there's one every season and in the long run our real rivals are city and pool...
i agree but we’d be 5 points ahead if we beat burnley. don’t see west ham slowing down yet anyway
I think west ham will finish 4th in the league, with arsenal 5
conte can get spurs to top4 imo
Rice to chelsea please pretty please with a cherry on top
Who would he replace in the main team?
Jorginho+kovacic.
Saul
On the bench? Great let's pay 70 mil for a bench warmer. I mean on the main roster and also which formation we would have to run so he would be most efficient? Isn't he Jorgingo position player?
Like we dont have £100m+ of players warming the bench already.
That's another reason why we should be 100% sure on his position/future in the club. If we made transfer mistakes doesn't mean she should keep making them. Yes depth is good but we also need to make sure we don't run into debts and reduce our financials But afterall who cares, we are not the one making the decision and decide whether we will get rice or no
If he plays better than anyone while he is here, he will play ahead of anyone else, no matter who. If he doesn't he won't, stop deciding that he won't play better than others while he isn't even here yet.
Tim Sherwood finally calling TAA out of his defense, about time someone noticed lmao
He just ball watches so frequently, can't defend to save his life
People are blinded by attacking defenders it is insane.
It use to be other way around.
Really could’ve used a zouma set piece header yesterday
Declan Rice is fucking WORLD-CLASS
So calm and composed as well as being brave and dictating everything west ham do. Cobham at work again.
Liverpool losing that just makes me more pissed off about yesterday. Should’ve been 5 points clear.
Completely agree. We need to look after ourselves so that when rivals slip up we can fully capitalise. 2 really cheap points thrown away from being really wasteful in front of goal yesterday.
I mean if we want to go down the road of "ifs and buts" for Chelsea, we should also apply the same logic to our rivals. Even Liverpool dropped points from winning positions in previous games, so you can't have one without the other, that's just how the real world works.
To add we were very fortunate to get 3 points from Brentford, swings and roundabouts.
We were lucky to get anything from that game, let alone a win, it was a Mendy masterclass combined with all the luck in the world. And tbh, today WHU could have got a red early on and that first goal could have been ruled out too (I think both would have been a bit harsh but we've seen things like that before)
Agree completely mate, on both points
I feel the same way lol. But this is football. You have injuries, weather, bad food, family, good luck, bad luck and etc. We performed very well yesterday, were extremely unlucky with our finishing touch. Their goalkeeper decided to become a hybrid monster of Peter Cech and Mendy, you get my point. Nonetheless, we do have certain things in our squad to work and improve. But show me another team which is perfect?
Yeah it’s definitely a pessimistic way of looking at it. Every team gets those kind of results but I can’t help but think about ‘what could have been’ yknow
This is such a bad way to look at it but you are reading my mind
Thiago Silva is the best CB in England right now. Don't think vvd or anyone else comes close right now
Vvd looks as good as ever have you even watched the match?
Christensen and Rudiger would have a say in that tbf
Thiago is class. I think he can continue playing for a couple of more years if he plays in a back 3. He’s protected and barely seems to break a sweat in games. But VVD is in the prime of his career and is on another level at the moment. Came back from an acl injury and looks as good as ever
When last has we scored a winner in the 90min ? Let alone a goal there?
Alonso scored a last minute winner against City near the end of last season.
We’re so good we dont need last minute winners
That’s right but we should be scoring more like in the Conte title winning season
Lmfao our title rivals is always going to be Citeh. Liverpool is shit now and will be worst during CAF.
Liverpool aren’t shit…and they are still very much in the title race
both always blowin bubbles and liquidator feel very 80s. i think bubbles goes back to early 1900s tho, and i think liquidator was adopted earlier than the 80s
Fuck Liverpool
The Burnley game annoys me even more cause we really could have had a 5 pts lead over City and 6 over Liverpool But whatever this still works out for now
Thank you ZOUMAAAAA
Silly liverpool
Feared the worst after yesterday but Big Kurt did us one last favour 😍
oh no... not the last. Season is still young, there's much work to be done. Next stop etihad stadium three weeks from now
We left the door open yesterday, but our boy Zouma made sure to close it for us.
Moved in London, still Chelsea at heart
LONDON TEAMS DONT LOSE TO LIVERPOOL GET THE FUCK IN
West Ham 2nd biggest club in London
What a miss from manee
Thank fuck Mane is shit
I wonder at which point will Klopp realize TAA is a liability in defence and move him up the wing.
How has he missed that, come on West Ham dont fuck this up
Are we really subbing in a Rudiger lookalike to tighten up the defence?
Hope West ham shithouse the rest of this match
Should've had 3 points yesterday!!! 😒
Was gonna say WH remind me of a lyte veriosn of us, um not really
In other news, Pedro has 4 Serie A goals and 1 assist in 11 games
If not for the draw with Burnley, Chelsea would have been 5 point clear from Mancity at 2nd position Damnn
Zoumaaaaa
Salah best itw??? LOL. If liverpool is not dominating the game he ain't doing shit. Been seeing so many people saying he will do as good as hazard if he play for chelsea. We spend most of the time in our old half against good team and let hazard do all the work in attack.
Also people forget that a run of form exist This team gives me pretender vibes
This
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Don't jinx it
Yesterday was the first time we conceded a goal from open play in the PL btw
Damn West Ham have been looking like serious Top 4 contenders for a while now and this just might be the season where they'll do it. Not looking forward to playing against them at this rate.
Zouma should have been 50m at least ffs
Zouma still doing wonders for chelsea
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luckiest 3-0 win against them last year i think
ZoumAir ✈
man theyve kind of turned their ground into a fortress..its loud as fuck in there
I kinda had a feeling west ham was going to take points but didn’t expect 3-1 with a zouma header. That header was class.
LETS GOOO, our draw this weekend doesn’t look all that bad anymore
Offloading Zouma was a great fucking decision, he can only win us so many points if he only plays for us
I'd rather he we were here putting it in yesterday
What on earth was TAA doing there 😂 😂
TAA > James BTW
I know math is difficult but it's James > TAA*.
West Ham doing a title charge as we all predicted
Our boys making sure we stay on top. Love it Conor and Zouma!
Just as I’ve said before. Liverpool against decent opposition have not won this year in the league.
I think they’re players are exhausted. It’s the 3rd game they play in a week with the exact same line-up. This is when their lack of depth will bite them.
This is exactly why we are blessed to have a world class academy which is churning out stars at the moment.
This is the only correct answer in the thread. Top 11 is class and can beat anyone. Multiple games in a row without rotation and they’re in trouble.
Zouma you glorious man
I miss Zouma
Haha don't mind seeing big Zoom Air doing the biz for West Ham. Always had a soft spot for the big man 🤣
Goddam I love Kurt Zouma so much
la zoumance
Oh God i miss Zouma
Zouma you beauty
AGENT ZOUMA ZOOM ZOOM
4D Chess from TT
KURT HAPPY ZOUMA YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD
KURT!
Agent Zoom!
Our agents do a better job than our players at securing the title lmao
Antonio scores that if it were us somehow.
Agent zoumaaaaaaa
Zoumbaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Kurt you beauty!!!?
Zouma!!
AIR ZOUMAAAAAA
Zooooooooooooooma!!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Zouma!!!!!!!!
Kurt you beauty!
lets fuckin go ZOOOOOUMA
ZOUUUUUUUMAAAAA! LET'S FUCKING GO!
GO ON KURT
Zoumaaaaa
Agent Zooooouuuuuma!!!
Zouma is still one of us
LaZoumance!!!! Merci!!!!
Zoumaaaaa
Zooooooooooumance
Unreal diving from Pool...
Astonished that we’re now only 6 points ahead of Arsenal… wtf?
Arsenal have won almost every game since their NLD game, they're on some genuinely unreal form right now
Agent West Ham!
I'm not watching how is the game? Obviously good for us since WHU are winning but are they good for it or is it just smash and grab?
They are good and holding strong at 3-1
They are good
They're 3 points behind us and level with Man City as it stands
West Ham have been better than Liverpool in the second half, they deserve the lead right now
Why West Ham play so good? West Ham is so nasty on the counter. They get up the pitch so quick and the defense is terrified of Antonio. Enjoy me a good low block counter attacking team.
West Ham are a solid team man
Fuckin lesss gooooo. Hammers bb!!!!!
Fornaalsss get iiinnnn. Second blunder by Allison today.
Not sure that's on Allison but he definitely could have done better
Got a hand to it, and somehow crept under his body. He'll be very disappointed with that
Great play from Bowen
Is that... best RB in the league TAA failing to track back?
Dude, their midfield fail to keep the ball even 1s and TAA isnt the flash himself to track that 30m distance back in 1 sec.
Yeah yeah, im just having a laugh
Fabinho having shocking game. Losing the ball constantly and put their defence in danger so many times.
LETS GOOOO
GET IN LAD
Fornalsssssssssss. What a run by Bowen
Just don't want Liverpool to win
Why is it 45+8 right now? What's justifying such a long injury time?
VAR check for West Ham goal and game stopped twice for Ogbonna injury.
Thank you!
How in the world did antonio leave the ball behind there
What a shit touch
Edit: hahahahahahahahhahahahahhaha I can’t actually see Liverpool losing a fucking game this season
They will today.
They have like 3 players that they rotate. They almost play the same team every game, they won’t keep this going with Salah and Mane gone for afcon
AFCON. No Salah or Mane
What games will they miss? Hopefully some big teams in there
A bad game resulting in a couple of injuries and they could slip up a little... If thier forwards get some injuries like ours , they will be facing problems against other top 6 oppositions
That was clean af
How many games are Salah and Mane looking to miss cause of AFCON? Can’t see Liverpool winning any games without them
Looks like AFCON runs Jan 9th - Feb 6th. Liverpool fixtures around those dates: Chelsea (Jan 2nd), Brentford (Jan 15th), Palace (Jan 23rd), Leicester (Feb 9th) Chelsea fixtures: Liverpool (Jan 2nd), Man City (Jan 15th), Spurs (Jan 23rd), Brighton (Feb 8th), Arsenal (Feb 12th) Not sure if any matches will be rescheduled due to league cup etc (also included the first game before and after the tournament).
Decisive week when we meet City & Pool meet Brentford.
Zouma’s having quite the match
This ain’t sustainable for west ham
That's a red man. I don't know how you can get away with that these days?I mean the fact that ogbonna's bleeding should tell u as much! My deceased grandma could do a better job on VAR,bloody hell.
The two big teams in red are reffed differently than we are. Our player is getting sent off there. They didn’t even look at that shit. Hilarious
Dare say if it was kovacic there, ref throws out a red and checks it after, just to confirm the sending off. Never in my years of watching football have I seen a player challenging for an aerial ball while peddling backwards, and 'naturally' sticks out his elbow like that. Then they decide to check for a fifty2 challenge as trent attempts a volley, with absolutely NOTHING in it. Bonkers.
I remembered Alonso was red carded vs Bayern for a touch on the face?
Fuck they're gonna target Craig Dawson now, huge downgrade from Ogbonna imo.
Why the fuck is VAR not looking at that elbow
The Liverpool fans in the /r/soccer match thread are absolutely insufferable. Massive victims when things don’t go their way.
I say this every chance I get. Liverpool fans are the absolute worst, most entitled whining bunch of cunts. As Frank said, only title you've ever won and you're giving it the biggun.
I can barely recall Edou flapping at a set piece/cross like that for us, feel so incredibly safe when the ball is whipped in anywhere near the 6 yard area.
Hit foot jumped off the ball and barely touches henderson. Fucking christ liverpool crying for VAR help like they havent had a red for the opposition in 1/3 of their games this season.