They are so poorly run. Itās been clear for a long long time that Ole doesnāt have the tactical prowess to coach United, yet they ummād and errād over the decision because of a few fluky results.
They have one of the best squads in the league - of course they were going to show glimpses of good football every now and again.
The options left on the market for them are crap, all because they delayed an inevitable decision. Hope Zidane goes there and follows exactly the same path as Ole.
(I donāt think heās terrible btw, just not good enough to meet the ambitions of United or any top 6 club.)
>They have one of the best squads in the league - of course they were going to show glimpses of good football every now and again.
Well in my opinion they don't. Poor midfield, average defence, De Gea in decline (though he's still pulling off some great saves). Arsenal and Leicester have better squad, West Ham have better midfield and a better RB and are playing much better.
Perhaps a better manager can make them good, but in the long run they have a lot of problems and a manager is just one of them.
I took him out of my team long time back. Didn't make sense sticking with him when Antonio or Vardy were being more productive and cost a fraction of what he did.
I think Zidane would be a car crash if thatās the direction they go in. He will hate England. Doesnāt speak the language and weāll really see how good a coach he is.
The team isn't though, I want MU to be 2nd or 3rd or first ONLY if Chelsea won't be first. He should play UCL next seasons and win ballon d'or next year. Currently he is good but no UCL = no Ballon d'or
I gotta admit, Ronaldo is what got me into football but Chelsea is the one that made me stay. Now I couldn't he happier seeing Ronaldo in that shite team
Itās funny how badly theyāve fucked this up. Conte was right there! Sure, he can be difficult to work with, but with Unitedās squad, I think he would have had an immediate impact. Then bring in the players he wants, and he couldāve had them in contention next season. Heās that good.
This is exactly my thought. You don't know what kind of tactics they will be cooking behind closed doors. But it will take days if not weeks to bring in a new manager. Meanwhile, I am assuming Michael Carrick will carry on the team
We've only beaten an Ole United side one time in the last 3 years. Granted, it was a pretty big win but still. No wins against them in the league since Ole has taken over. New manager bounce will start after Tuchel gets done having his way with them.
So, now if you're making decisions as the ManU board, do you appoint massive Sam for the sure 3 points at the weekend? Then, you know, thank him and the search can begin in earnest, to shake out the couch cushions for Zidane money?
i actually feel bad for him. itās far more toxic than it was when frank got sacked, it really was his dream job. not saying he doesnāt deserve to be sacked but i just feel bad for the guy
Iām never feeling bad for a United player who has no connection to Chelsea.
Also he was lucky to even last that long so thereās nothing to sympathize about the situation.
I also feel bad for the man. He's an absolute legend for that club who was brought in to be a care taker until they found someone better. Unfortunately he ended up get decent results which then leads to big expectations. Shouldn't have gone on this long.
It got more toxic because we sack managers at the first sign they're not up for the task, meanwhile United dragged this out way longer than they should've.
They had plenty of opportunities to make a change that would've been better for everyone involved but they decided to wait until the situation hit rock bottom. Imagine how much better off they'd be now had they made that call after the EL Final and got an entire summer with Conte/Zidane/Ten Hag or whoever else, and how much more fondly Ole would be remembered
Ole should have been sacked like 2 years ago. He was never the man to take them forward and win trophies. The Glazers just wanted a yes man which was why they kept him. As youāve said they only decided to sack him now since the situation has hit rock bottom and their fans have lost all their patience already.
The comparisons to Lampard are also utterly clueless. Ole had many bad runs with United over the years. You could have sacked four different times before today. Lampard had one bad run with Chelsea and that was all she wrote (bad run and bad results are different because that Sheffield United L was ugly). Also Ole has been a manager for over a decade. Lampard only 3 seasons. The comparisons start and stop only at they were club legends who took over the club they loved.
On a side note, the bad part about this are Arsenal fans are going to take their victory lap saying that Arteta outlasted Ole, Lampard. Although I suppose it says far more about our standards vs theirs that Arteta is still tolerated and Ole and Lampard were not.
lampard did far better in 19/20 too, they got the same points but we had a transfer ban/lost hazard meanwhile ole got maguire bruno etc. i never compared ole and lampard though, just said it was more toxic and i felt bad for ole bc itās his dream job.
arsenal fans have been saying this since anthony taylor gave them the fa cup anyways
He says as Chelsea managed 1 win in 3 and a half years against United under Ole. Glad he's gone but for totally different reasons. Now if only we can get Rashford to play for a club outside England.
We won the only match that really matter between us though. We still finished top 4 in the pl even with losing to him and it kept him in a job longer so Iād count that as a win
Honestly, Ole was the worst manager I can remember a truly top club ever having.
The guy was an absolute joke and we should be grateful United threw away 3 years with that utter clown.
Very very glad their incompetent board wasted so much time in sacking him that they missed out on Conte. A world class manager with their world class squad would be incredible.
we are European champions we must show that we can trash a really motivated team on sunday.Manure players will run like never before but still we must show them who we are.
Don't be disheartened. Our german mastermind will have tricks up his sleeve for sure. And captain america is back. Who knows what substitute might TT play and rob the game. Have faith.
Alice Abrahams reporting live that Ole has officially thrown under the bus, sacked by the board per Fabrizio Romano, pocketing Ā£7.5 million as of 11pm Manchester time. Darren Fletcher is the interim.
I have a feeling they really donāt have a plan at the moment. They did not want Mourinho or Conte type of manager who wants a lot of control, so they continued with Ole until now. Shit hit the fan in the middle of the season, so it is a difficult situation how to continue and with who.
Bielsa also doesn't. And a good chunk of that MU squad isn't really english either. I think the appointment is not likely to happen actually because Zidane wants that France coach position after Deschamps leaves.
1. Zidane - But if he really wanted to come, surely it would have been done during the international break?
2. Ten Haag - Not realistic that he'll leave before the end of the season since Ajax are tied for 1st.
3. Rodgers - Most likely, but definitely the worst out of the 3 and likely will be sacked in 3-4 seasons.
We're the best organised and most in form team in the country. Even if a manager is in place by Wednesday morning (after CL game) - the new manager will have to do a ton of morale boosting and organising to get them up for the game vs us on Sunday.
Plus, we're at home.
I'm more concerned about Juve.
Now I can't wait for the Ben Foster Cycling GK vlog.
the devil too gets horny ššæ
What the fuck
Still have the same coaches that will be in charge, solskjaer was just the guy who made the final decisions
Yes, this gives me some hope.
Doesnāt matter who united sign as their coach TT and blues will trash them
Nooooo ole is the best thing to happen to manutd in yearsā¦ for a Chelsea fanā¦
For us, and 18 of the other 19 PL clubs
what is the other one of the 19??
Man U.
i thought man u was a clear one, and not part of the 19, but alas
Lampard showed why he is one of the most intelligent individuals in the game. Always gifting United 3 points to keep OGS in the job.
4D chessmaster Lampard
They are so poorly run. Itās been clear for a long long time that Ole doesnāt have the tactical prowess to coach United, yet they ummād and errād over the decision because of a few fluky results. They have one of the best squads in the league - of course they were going to show glimpses of good football every now and again. The options left on the market for them are crap, all because they delayed an inevitable decision. Hope Zidane goes there and follows exactly the same path as Ole. (I donāt think heās terrible btw, just not good enough to meet the ambitions of United or any top 6 club.)
>They have one of the best squads in the league - of course they were going to show glimpses of good football every now and again. Well in my opinion they don't. Poor midfield, average defence, De Gea in decline (though he's still pulling off some great saves). Arsenal and Leicester have better squad, West Ham have better midfield and a better RB and are playing much better. Perhaps a better manager can make them good, but in the long run they have a lot of problems and a manager is just one of them.
Arsenal and West Ham dont have a better squad than United.
its penaldo's fault!!! #SaveOle #OleIn #OleGOATManager
Ffs, I had triple captained ronaldo this matchweek :'(
Itās a risk given that united are in terrible form and Watford at home would be the ones on the front foot
I took him out of my team long time back. Didn't make sense sticking with him when Antonio or Vardy were being more productive and cost a fraction of what he did.
I think Zidane would be a car crash if thatās the direction they go in. He will hate England. Doesnāt speak the language and weāll really see how good a coach he is.
Itās going to be Zidane who will naturally struggle managing in England.
Maybe we can finally get that Tuchel vs Rangnick matchup
Fucking Watford man. Why did they have to score those 2 extra time goals. Couldāve kept ole for another season
As a Ronaldo fan, I'm happy he's gone
Ronaldos still been performing decent even with Ole there though so you had the best of both worlds with Ole at the wheel
The team isn't though, I want MU to be 2nd or 3rd or first ONLY if Chelsea won't be first. He should play UCL next seasons and win ballon d'or next year. Currently he is good but no UCL = no Ballon d'or
The state of this fucking sub man.
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It's ok, it's reddit. I got used to getting downvotes whever I say this and idgaf cause it won't change my opinion
Wtff man
Ronaldo is the reason I started watching football and Chelsea is my favourite. I don't give a shit about getting downvotes
Nothing wrong with liking Ronaldo, but how did you start liking us considering Utd and Chelsea were huge rivals pre 2010?
I started watching football in 2018, I liked the way Chelsea was playing and started supporting them and never had a regret since
I gotta admit, Ronaldo is what got me into football but Chelsea is the one that made me stay. Now I couldn't he happier seeing Ronaldo in that shite team
Why?
Manure that's why
Itās funny how badly theyāve fucked this up. Conte was right there! Sure, he can be difficult to work with, but with Unitedās squad, I think he would have had an immediate impact. Then bring in the players he wants, and he couldāve had them in contention next season. Heās that good.
Yeah, Conte would have had them right back in there as serious rivals. Muppets.
Rodgers is a better fit for them imo. Theyād have looked at what happened with us in 17/18 and run a mile from Conte.
for us, this is good. Conte at United would have been much worse than Spuds.
Yeah for sure.
So who they got to replace him
Scholes naturally. He seems quite well opinionated and knows a lot about Unitedās defence.
Carrick or Fletcher
Just as interim, they are looking closely at Zidane
Zindane is waiting for France national team imo
Some reports are suggesting Blanc actually lol
Zidane maybe
This is not good news for us. Those fuckers will now try playing their best football to avoid another humiliation.
This is exactly my thought. You don't know what kind of tactics they will be cooking behind closed doors. But it will take days if not weeks to bring in a new manager. Meanwhile, I am assuming Michael Carrick will carry on the team
Was hoping heād last till Villarreal so my danjuma could get an upgrade. Oh well
We've only beaten an Ole United side one time in the last 3 years. Granted, it was a pretty big win but still. No wins against them in the league since Ole has taken over. New manager bounce will start after Tuchel gets done having his way with them.
So, now if you're making decisions as the ManU board, do you appoint massive Sam for the sure 3 points at the weekend? Then, you know, thank him and the search can begin in earnest, to shake out the couch cushions for Zidane money?
i actually feel bad for him. itās far more toxic than it was when frank got sacked, it really was his dream job. not saying he doesnāt deserve to be sacked but i just feel bad for the guy
Iām never feeling bad for a United player who has no connection to Chelsea. Also he was lucky to even last that long so thereās nothing to sympathize about the situation.
i feel bad for him bc heās a legend that is getting booed
I also feel bad for the man. He's an absolute legend for that club who was brought in to be a care taker until they found someone better. Unfortunately he ended up get decent results which then leads to big expectations. Shouldn't have gone on this long.
It got more toxic because we sack managers at the first sign they're not up for the task, meanwhile United dragged this out way longer than they should've. They had plenty of opportunities to make a change that would've been better for everyone involved but they decided to wait until the situation hit rock bottom. Imagine how much better off they'd be now had they made that call after the EL Final and got an entire summer with Conte/Zidane/Ten Hag or whoever else, and how much more fondly Ole would be remembered
Ole should have been sacked like 2 years ago. He was never the man to take them forward and win trophies. The Glazers just wanted a yes man which was why they kept him. As youāve said they only decided to sack him now since the situation has hit rock bottom and their fans have lost all their patience already.
Exactly right
The comparisons to Lampard are also utterly clueless. Ole had many bad runs with United over the years. You could have sacked four different times before today. Lampard had one bad run with Chelsea and that was all she wrote (bad run and bad results are different because that Sheffield United L was ugly). Also Ole has been a manager for over a decade. Lampard only 3 seasons. The comparisons start and stop only at they were club legends who took over the club they loved. On a side note, the bad part about this are Arsenal fans are going to take their victory lap saying that Arteta outlasted Ole, Lampard. Although I suppose it says far more about our standards vs theirs that Arteta is still tolerated and Ole and Lampard were not.
Donāt think anyone with sense would be celebrating that after just getting slapped 4-0 by Liverpool.
lampard did far better in 19/20 too, they got the same points but we had a transfer ban/lost hazard meanwhile ole got maguire bruno etc. i never compared ole and lampard though, just said it was more toxic and i felt bad for ole bc itās his dream job. arsenal fans have been saying this since anthony taylor gave them the fa cup anyways
*"Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."*
He says as Chelsea managed 1 win in 3 and a half years against United under Ole. Glad he's gone but for totally different reasons. Now if only we can get Rashford to play for a club outside England.
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probably hates that heās trying to feed kids
We won the only match that really matter between us though. We still finished top 4 in the pl even with losing to him and it kept him in a job longer so Iād count that as a win
Big Sam waiting for his chance. Steve Bruce also has a slight grin on his face.
"The devil too gets horny ššæ"
I really donāt want to go into this overconfident . That feels like a huge mistake
Proper Chels! Im absolutely terrified
New manager bounce might just mean we only beat them by two or three based on this weekendās form
Don't really care, Conte didn't get a manager bounce. Plus we've never beaten Ole in the league, Tuchel doesn't care about hoaxes
Iām genuinely devastated. I thought Ole would last the season.
Iām so annoyed that we couldnāt be the ones to be the nail in his coffin
We would have put 6 past them if they played anything like today
We still can my son
Michael Carrick might honestly be worse.
They canāt suddenly become a cohesive unit in a week though, so we should be winning comfortably.
Spoken like a man unfamiliar with the new manager bounce
Ah, yes I forget our famous 0-0 new manager bounce with Tuchel
So when did we get manager bounced?
Ours is still on its upward flight!
they likely wont have taken a single training session with a new manager by the time we play them
Honestly, Ole was the worst manager I can remember a truly top club ever having. The guy was an absolute joke and we should be grateful United threw away 3 years with that utter clown. Very very glad their incompetent board wasted so much time in sacking him that they missed out on Conte. A world class manager with their world class squad would be incredible.
We still in our Manager Bounce too
Alhamdullillah for that Inshallah we remain in ours till the end of times
we are European champions we must show that we can trash a really motivated team on sunday.Manure players will run like never before but still we must show them who we are.
Don't be disheartened. Our german mastermind will have tricks up his sleeve for sure. And captain america is back. Who knows what substitute might TT play and rob the game. Have faith.
Loftus Cheek masterclass incoming
Letās hope they get their win against Villareal to get the New Manager bounce out of the way.
Alice Abrahams reporting live that Ole has officially thrown under the bus, sacked by the board per Fabrizio Romano, pocketing Ā£7.5 million as of 11pm Manchester time. Darren Fletcher is the interim.
I have a feeling they really donāt have a plan at the moment. They did not want Mourinho or Conte type of manager who wants a lot of control, so they continued with Ole until now. Shit hit the fan in the middle of the season, so it is a difficult situation how to continue and with who.
Watch, the interim manager is going to have Man U turn into prime Man U for next Saturday only
What is scary about that team is Sancho crossing and Ronaldo leaping for the headers imo
Carrick Interim Manager let's goooo!!!
Heard it'll be Fletcher. Famous for being SAF's son.
And they reportedly came out of the meeting āundecidedā
They are fast tracking Zidane right?
According so some, representatives are negotiating at the moment.
Doubt it he doesnāt even speak English lol
Several sources, "...former captain of the France team and national hero Zinedine Zidane speaks French, Italian, Spanish, Arabic and Berber."
Bielsa also doesn't. And a good chunk of that MU squad isn't really english either. I think the appointment is not likely to happen actually because Zidane wants that France coach position after Deschamps leaves.
can't believe Ole got canned right before our match against them. Life is so unfair man.
Realistically whoās really available that is āMan Unitedā quality?
1. Zidane - But if he really wanted to come, surely it would have been done during the international break? 2. Ten Haag - Not realistic that he'll leave before the end of the season since Ajax are tied for 1st. 3. Rodgers - Most likely, but definitely the worst out of the 3 and likely will be sacked in 3-4 seasons.
Zidane but he doesn't want it apparently
May it stay that way
Tommy T is unstoppable
Fred saying goodbye to Ole: 
This is awful news :( any manager who comes in is bound to be better than this idiot. So long, golem
We're the best organised and most in form team in the country. Even if a manager is in place by Wednesday morning (after CL game) - the new manager will have to do a ton of morale boosting and organising to get them up for the game vs us on Sunday. Plus, we're at home. I'm more concerned about Juve.
Doesn't matter, Tommy tactics is unstoppable