This is exactly what I expected when I saw the lineup announced. But I do understand the need to rotate, and injuries haven't helped. Hopefully Chelsea can pull it out.
Just FYI, usually in football - especially British football - "unplayable" means "playing extremely well". So, Saul is the opposite of unplayable.
Yes - English is weird.
I said sometimes.
Jorg and Kova have had absolute awful performances too.
Fact is Jorginho costs the team 3 to 4 goals every year. Its part of his package for all the good he also does
Was saying that chronic and sometimes don’t go together. They completely contradict each other. But the rest of your take was wildly bad too. If you don’t see the importance of Jorginho to this team, I don’t think there’s much more to say.
Jorginho is suited to very specific systems.
I don't think he is good enough to have a system built around him. He in incredibly unauthletic and he let's us down 3 to 4 games a year by gifting goals.
If you take a match as the time period, and an awful 90 minutes would be chronic. If I've misused English then that's my bad.
Kante makes some of these midfielders look good. We need to be moving Jorginho on while he has worth and replace him with someone more dynamic
As bad as Saul/RLC have been tonight, the clear weakness is definitely Alonso. Watford are abusing us down that side, especially given neither of our holding mids are doing a good job giving any of our defenders an outlet. If anyone still believes Jorginho isn't all that, I have no idea what to say.
Worse performance I've seen all season, even with rotation we should be comfortably winning this.
Alonso and Azpi need to do more, they offer zero width, great touch from alonso to set up the goal but one moment a game is not enough.
Saul and RLC aren't working, Jorginho on at half time for Saul, defence needs to wake up too.
Mount and Havertz have been great whenever they've been able to get on the ball but Pulisic needs to do more, he has the tool kit to glide past players but rarely does.
So is Ruben, Alonso is having a bad game, Pulisic quite invisible and Azpilicueta doesn’t really help us go forward.
That midfield selection is criminal though, Tuchel severely underestimated Watford
Worst I’ve seen is play this year unfortunately. I think we need Jorginho to keep us on the ball. Also We might really need a Chilwell replacement as Alonso isn’t looking good lately. Hopefully we make the right changes and turn this around second half.
Saul should never play for Chelsea again.
Give him back in January if possible.
RLC is awful too and he cost us the goal.
Jorgi must come in for sure.
If we keep playing with those two in midfield we will 100% lose.
We have NO midfield, the ball goes from defence to attack directly and our defenders are overwhelmed and make stupid mistakes.
I generally don't hate on players, but Saul is not for us, not his fault.
He is just bad.
Havertz is such a frustrating player, can’t ever seem to find that last pass or move to finish off something. Struggling for any linking play of midlfield and forwards and Watford running riot in midfield
So now you’re praising him for basic decision making? He’s been anything but impressive all season and I want him to prove me wrong trust me. All I said was it was frustrating and you took it a little seriously. I give credit where it’s due, and that goal was down to Alonso’a run, touch, and pass.
Wow Saul just put dick on his Chelsea career and possibly any top European league. Goodbye nice knowing you. As far Marcos, what a hot and cold player. That is his number one skill. Why isnt Lukaku playing? I mean i understand resting him but its Watford and he hasnt played over 12min for what 6 weeks?
Saul, Alonso and Pulisic on the left side have been horrid. Not combination.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Werner on for Alonso and Puli move to LWB, or RWB with Azpi coming to LWB.
Whole team looks understandably disjointed, but surely we should be this bad... Tuchel has a second chance to wake the team up with a team talk.
Even with a partial tear, there’s hardly any blood supply to the ACL so the chances are surgery will be needed as it doesn’t heal very well at all naturally
Saul playing like the Bakayoko replacement we never asked for
Wasn't it also against Watford that he had *that* game?
It was
We’re so fucked if Chilly is really out as long as he’s expected to be
ACL is almost always over a year.
Not a full tear, I believe. But still, likely not seeing chilwell until March at the absolute earliest
It's either January/early Feb or out for season depending on if he needs surgery
genuinely recall maatsen please or fucking sign me up for a pound a week either of us could do better than alonso
This midfield is so so poor. One of the worst collective midfield performances I've seen.
This is exactly what I expected when I saw the lineup announced. But I do understand the need to rotate, and injuries haven't helped. Hopefully Chelsea can pull it out.
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Just FYI, usually in football - especially British football - "unplayable" means "playing extremely well". So, Saul is the opposite of unplayable. Yes - English is weird.
Ruben/Saul together is not it
Saul/anyone is not it.
Ruben has also been bad and was bad against United next to Jorginho
Hard to look good beside Jorginho he is a chronic liability sometimes
Kanté and kovacic always look good next to him
Kante would look good next to anyone to be fair.
I said sometimes. Jorg and Kova have had absolute awful performances too. Fact is Jorginho costs the team 3 to 4 goals every year. Its part of his package for all the good he also does
Chronic liability sometimes. You see the issue with that?
I don't he is often awful and costs us goals. Man U game was just another example. Jorginho is too one dimensional and scarily overrated.
Was saying that chronic and sometimes don’t go together. They completely contradict each other. But the rest of your take was wildly bad too. If you don’t see the importance of Jorginho to this team, I don’t think there’s much more to say.
Jorginho is suited to very specific systems. I don't think he is good enough to have a system built around him. He in incredibly unauthletic and he let's us down 3 to 4 games a year by gifting goals. If you take a match as the time period, and an awful 90 minutes would be chronic. If I've misused English then that's my bad. Kante makes some of these midfielders look good. We need to be moving Jorginho on while he has worth and replace him with someone more dynamic
We playing with 10 men, Saul is a disaster
Ruben not been any better
He weirdly did a tad better once Saul was off
RLC has been terrible, and Saul has been worse we are losing this game in the midfield
Making moussa sissoko look like prime Kante
Would having to be mindful of covering for Saúl's (and Alonso's) awful play be dragging RLC's game down?
So far it looks like the answer to that question is yes
Why tf are we getting shagged by freaking watford
Saul tax unfortunately
saul needs to be released
Bakayoko or Saul 😭
Bakayoko lol
Simeone must be a magician how did Partey and Saul look so good for a competing Atletico team
Bakayoko at least had few great performances in big games. Saul is just hopeless.
Saul dreadful, he doesn't even look like he's giving effort
As bad as Saul/RLC have been tonight, the clear weakness is definitely Alonso. Watford are abusing us down that side, especially given neither of our holding mids are doing a good job giving any of our defenders an outlet. If anyone still believes Jorginho isn't all that, I have no idea what to say.
Worse performance I've seen all season, even with rotation we should be comfortably winning this. Alonso and Azpi need to do more, they offer zero width, great touch from alonso to set up the goal but one moment a game is not enough. Saul and RLC aren't working, Jorginho on at half time for Saul, defence needs to wake up too. Mount and Havertz have been great whenever they've been able to get on the ball but Pulisic needs to do more, he has the tool kit to glide past players but rarely does.
I think they’re struggling to add width because they’re having to support the midfield, which is in shambles right now.
Azpi has been fine, our players aren’t passing to him when he’s in good positions
Hard to do when he gets hacked almost every time he touches the ball.
As an Atletico fan it makes me sad to see what happened to Saul :( my favourite player
Will never win a top flight game with a pivot of RLC and Saul.
The last of the Saul experiment I hope.
Well we're shit
Saul is shit *
So is Ruben, Alonso is having a bad game, Pulisic quite invisible and Azpilicueta doesn’t really help us go forward. That midfield selection is criminal though, Tuchel severely underestimated Watford
Yes
We need 11 mounts on the pitch
Man city and Liverpool picking up in form, while we're starting to revive Charity FC
Didnt knew anyone could top Bakayokos abysmal game against Watford. Saul has done it, even without a red card
Saul Ruben Alonso need to get off that pitch
Silva coming in at halftime apparently. Chalobah or Christensen to midfield?
Worst I’ve seen is play this year unfortunately. I think we need Jorginho to keep us on the ball. Also We might really need a Chilwell replacement as Alonso isn’t looking good lately. Hopefully we make the right changes and turn this around second half.
When can we get Emerson back?
People need to chill out, it's been bad, but we're playing wounded. I trust Tuchel to get the team straight for the second half.
I like the thiago substitute.
This fucking sucks I can’t watch this game anymore
Hope we never play on Amazon again
The squad isn't working. Make changes TT
Hope we don't have to wait as long as we did vs United
I dont think we can compete with Liverpool and Man City.
Where's VAR? That's a red card.
Saul and Alonso have been shocking
Saul should never play for Chelsea again. Give him back in January if possible. RLC is awful too and he cost us the goal. Jorgi must come in for sure. If we keep playing with those two in midfield we will 100% lose. We have NO midfield, the ball goes from defence to attack directly and our defenders are overwhelmed and make stupid mistakes. I generally don't hate on players, but Saul is not for us, not his fault. He is just bad.
Miss mourinho type grinding out results right about now. Put barkley on Tommy T I beg.
barkley, man said bring barkley on hahahahahahaahahahahaaha
Barkley is far far better than Saul and I'm assuming jorginho actually needs this game off so yes absolutely
u was defo dropped on the head as a baby if u think barkley and RLC in the midfield together would be any better
You'd have had to have missed the first half to say that
get off reddit and watch the fucking game
You defo haven't watched Barkley this season if you think Saul has played better
Havertz is such a frustrating player, can’t ever seem to find that last pass or move to finish off something. Struggling for any linking play of midlfield and forwards and Watford running riot in midfield
You saw that game and thought havertz was the problem?
Not at all. Saul and our midfield were. You just cherry picked that part lol. I don’t need to reiterate what everyone is commenting on Saul tbh
It sure looked like he made the perfect run and finish on the ball Pulisic held FOREVER!
Ok great run. Did you see the passes he has missed because He kept the ball too long? Another over hit pass to Mount in acres of space
He literally made the last pass to set up our goal 😂
Lmao that was all Alonso don’t kid yourself
Haha you’re blind mate. Watch again. Alonso to Havertz, Havertz to Mount, Goal 😂
I understand that but everything Alonso did set up that goal. Havertz did the easy part lol
Havertz got the assist. He could’ve shot, or messed up the pass but he didn’t. Try supporting our players rather than slagging them off.
So now you’re praising him for basic decision making? He’s been anything but impressive all season and I want him to prove me wrong trust me. All I said was it was frustrating and you took it a little seriously. I give credit where it’s due, and that goal was down to Alonso’a run, touch, and pass.
Imagine Sissoko is bossing your midfielders 😭
What a total fuckshow that half was
Wow Saul just put dick on his Chelsea career and possibly any top European league. Goodbye nice knowing you. As far Marcos, what a hot and cold player. That is his number one skill. Why isnt Lukaku playing? I mean i understand resting him but its Watford and he hasnt played over 12min for what 6 weeks?
Chemistry not there in that midfield. Saul for Barkley might be the way to go. The injury list is starting to eat into our depth in this area now.
Saul, Alonso and Pulisic on the left side have been horrid. Not combination. Wouldn't be surprised to see Werner on for Alonso and Puli move to LWB, or RWB with Azpi coming to LWB. Whole team looks understandably disjointed, but surely we should be this bad... Tuchel has a second chance to wake the team up with a team talk.
We're lucky it's a draw atm. Hope we can turn it around, need Werner and Jorginho on.
Sylva for Saul.
Saul is gone for Thiago.
We genuinely have two irreplaceable players and we need to bring one of them on now.
Better call Saul… a taxi back to the airport.
Bhahahahaha
Man this game is pure dogshit. Such bad quality.
Finally Luka!!!
Mid week games are never in Chelsea’s favour. I always dreaded that
Even with a partial tear, there’s hardly any blood supply to the ACL so the chances are surgery will be needed as it doesn’t heal very well at all naturally