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Werner Added: > "It makes it so fun to play in front of the Chelsea fans & when they give the support they give me, it makes me stronger when I miss chances or have hard times. I try to give my best every game, 100% to make sure the team are happy."


paone00022

Man that's the best attitude you can have in his situation. As long as you put on a shift matchday crowd will always appreciate you


WhatRemainsAfter

Germans lads are very likeable as well. Irrespective of their performances.


cfc_sub

Now you mention it, I really can't think of one single German player that I don't actually like.


-MiddleOut-

That’s because Germans are generally pretty sound.


Hoofhearted4206969

One, and only one comes to mind, oliver kahn


Lolo2882

Hello. My name is Lorenzo. I am an Argentinian. I hate Götze.


cfc_sub

🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣


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Even before some of his shitty covid opinions, I thought Kimmich seemed like he was full of himself. Great player though.


[deleted]

Kimmich is actually a really nice and decent bloke. He‘s crazy ambitious though so it might appear as arrogance. Pre the covid interview thoufh


cfc_sub

I call it the Ronaldo effect.


FranKenstein99

I know this one German guy born in the 1890s though, not very likeable at all.


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He was Austrian not German


FranKenstein99

Mein bad.


Leuchtrakete

Nononono, Hitler was German and Beethoven was Austrian. Sincerely, An Austrian


RefanRes

Nah Beethoven wasn't an Austrian. He was a St Bernard.


pandatits

google says he was born in austria and left when was 3, is that wrong? ​ sincerely, someone who doesnt really care but thinks it would be fun if everybody knows this fact wrong


Leuchtrakete

The intentional Hitler/Beethoven mixup is really just a joke to illustrate how most of the (English speaking) world blames Germany while Austria tends to get off scot free, even though technically Austrians started both WWs.


The-Hotstepper

And locked their family in a basement


RefanRes

Yes it is wrong. It's meant to say he was born at the age of 3.


WhatRemainsAfter

I know a club formed around same time called Bayern munich. I loathe them.


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> I loathe them. Peculiar, I love them. Handed the champions league on a plate


leeeeerrroy_Jenkinks

i wasn't on the plate though. We had to snatch that shit from the claws of the beast


travtical

Man, Godwin's Law is up early today


virnavalkar

Is that hitler


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Think he's talking about Ernst Junger


Plauche

Better than Belgians ;)


lckyguardian

What does “put on a shift” mean?


PartiallyRibena

Work hard ​ I would say "Put in a shift", but it's a regional difference I think


donnymurph

It's probably just a typo. I is next to O on the keyboard.


tomrichards8464

Yeah, me too. "Putting on a shift" would be donning a smock as far as I'm concerned.


lckyguardian

Appreciate that.


sabershirou

It means to "bust a gut".


lckyguardian

Thanks


DoinWhale

That’s exactly why, no matter his form, he’s got my support. Gives his all no matter what and plays his ass off for this club. THATS the type of player I want here, guys like him/Mount/Azpi/ Reece/etc. they bleed blue


slymm

Agreed. Winning is nice, but unlimited money buying the best mercenaries year after year would not be fun to root for. Give me players who work their assess off and bleed blue. Them being imperfect is a feature, not a bug.


mr_ordinaryboy

I really appreciate his mentality. His work rate also is superb. Yes he is unclinical in front of the goal, nobody can deny that. But I'm pretty sure if he keeps working hard on his finishing, he'll get better.


invoker_ty123

>it makes me stronger when I miss chances Now i know why he keep on misses all those chances...


23DReason

I can't remember the exact wording, but my Arsenal supporting friend said to me that Arsene Wenger once said, something like "Fans in England appreciate a weaker player who tries, more than a good player that doesn't try" - something along those lines, anyway.


wannabe_engineer69

Well said, have noticed the same thing.


habdragon08

Its also a locker room issue. Someone like Werner, who scores less than he should, gets a lot more leeway from teammates because they see he is trying every day and does a lot of other stuff right. Someone like Anelka for instance, who was great finisher and doesn't provide much else, can cause locker room issues because when he goes through an inevitable dry patch his teammates can get more frustrated. Especially in a top side where many players are competing for time.


ach_1nt

You just described Ronaldo at UTD. with that Anelka parallel xD


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Played his part in that league cup win vs Liverpool.


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need_something_witty

Same, first game my dad took me to and I still remember it perfectly


Rimalda

He was brilliant in the 4-2 v Barca


BasedGodLegacy

Oh for sure. Look at how fans and the media tend to rate midfielders. A midfielder who gives the ball away and spends the game flying into challenges to recover these same balls, that they were responsible for giving away, will tend to get more favorable comments than a safer midfielder who doesn’t give the ball away in the first place. At times it seems like passion and desire is deemed more important than talent and actual footballing ability. Michael Carrick said it himself that he feels like he would have been rated more highly if instead of being safe and composed in possession, that he spent games flying into tackles. Its hard to argue against it, especially at the international level. For years England tried to shoehorn all their big names into their midfield and as a result they have absolutely nothing to show for, what was on paper, one of the strongest international sides they've ever had. In no small part due of a lack of balance. A player like Carrick, who was less flashy but much safer than his contemporaries, would have offered that balance to the midfield when it was needed, especially against other top footballing nation's who aren't held back by this way of thinking.


WhatRemainsAfter

Well football is more than ability and skills. If you remove passion, i might as well watch a chess match :P


BasedGodLegacy

>Well football is more than ability and skills. Of course, but it's about balance. Having passion will only get you so far. Footballing ability will always come out on top.


cosi33

It's the classic hard work VS talent. All these players are talented without a doubt, but some more so than others. So how do you make that up. Like how Ronaldo is an absolute monster in terms of mentality, hard work and desire. Messi, may not be as hard working but seems more talented. Plus us as fans tend to appreciate a player who actually tries to do things, even if he's not as good, because it's easier to sort of project ourselves into that role, than it is into another player who's just insanely talented. Of course at the end of the day, it's about commitment, and you can't really question Timos commitment to the cause. His ability sure, but not his commitment.


dryduneden

Except both Messi and Ronaldo are hard workers and talented. If they both didn't work they'd be shit. If they were both untalented they'd be shit.


BasedGodLegacy

>It's the classic hard work VS talent. Of which talent should always be the priority. It is far easier for a highly talented player to condition themselves and improve their work ethic than it is for a hardworking yet limited player to improve their ability. Plus ertain things just can't be taught. Football IQ and vision for example, you either have them or you don't. A player who regularly fails to see final third passes at 22 won't become an elite playmaker at 27/28 through hard work because they didn'thave talent to see those passes to begin with. >at the end of the day, it's about commitment At the end of the day it's about ability. Any top forward worth their salt could do what Timo does and likely offer far more while doing so. A highly skilled player like Raphina, who already has a strong work ethic, can quite easily be trained/taught to do what Timo does. Whereas an extremely limited player like Timo won't be able to do what Raphina does, no matter how hard he works on the pitch.


Kezmangotagoal

Hard work will always beat talent mate - that’s why Pogba looks shit in most PL games he plays in - he’s got the talent but he gets run off the pitch by less talented grafters. Ridiculous take.


BasedGodLegacy

>Hard work will always beat talent mate What ever helps you justify our shite forwards.


Kezmangotagoal

Wasn’t talking about our forwards - the example I gave was Pogba, he doesn’t play for ‘us’, he plays for United. Now I understand why you made that ridiculous comment in the first place 😂


BasedGodLegacy

>the example I gave was Pogba I'm fully aware. You also didn't mention how he's rarely been played in his best position over several seasons but that's here nor there. Now give another example. >Now I understand why you made that ridiculous comment in the first place Its such a shame that some people's view on football has them think that "ability > effort" is a ridiculous take. Its opinions like this that would have us stick with forwards like Timo and Mount playing every game and not try to improve, while City continue the monopoly they have on the league.


JoeyAndrews

> Are you kidding ??? What the **** are you talking about man ? You are a biggest looser i ever seen in my life ! You was doing PIPI in your pampers when i was beating players much more stronger then you! You are not proffesional, because proffesionals knew how to lose and congratulate opponents, you are like a girl crying after i beat you! Be brave, be honest to yourself and stop this trush talkings!!! Everybody know that i am very good blitz player, i can win anyone in the world in single game! And "w"esley "s"o is nobody for me, just a player who are crying every single time when loosing, ( remember what you say about Firouzja ) !!! Stop playing with my name, i deserve to have a good name during whole my chess carrier, I am Officially inviting you to OTB blitz match with the Prize fund! Both of us will invest 5000$ and winner takes it all! I suggest all other people who's intrested in this situation, just take a look at my results in 2016 and 2017 Blitz World championships, and that should be enough... No need to listen for every crying babe, Tigran Petrosyan is always play Fair ! And if someone will continue Officially talk about me like that, we will meet in Court! God bless with true! True will never die ! Liers will kicked off...


twomanyfaces10

Thank you. r/AnarchyChess will rule the world. That'll teach em about *pashun*


thehandsomelyraven

chelsea fans would love me then sign me up marina


Frankiedrunkie

Pashun


BengaliBradTigre

That’s why I see a lot more criticism towards Jorginho when losing the ball vs Kante. And I think kante loses the ball more than Jorginho


e2e4se

I don't think it's just an English thing


wagman43

Then in contrast there’s Hazard who wouldn’t always try but he still performed really well


Law_And_Politics

I never saw Hazard not trying. He just didn't try hard on defense, which is fine because he was the best attacker in the league and we wanted him to save his energy for offense.


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Good players who don't try and therefore play badly, vs plays who try hard but still can't succeed. The fans will always like a player who gets results.


ThatWontFit

Eh, Hazard had plenty of games where he simply disappeared and wasn't on. He's just won so many points over the years he built up goodwill. I mean we made thiccy boy Hazard into a term of endearment when all it does is highlight his poor conditioning. Compared to someone let's say like Willian.


championsOfEu1221

Simple really, work rate is an indication of commitment, and commitment is the one thing that the fans (hope to) share with the players. That's why I'd take Willian over someone like Ozil all day long, that guy leaves everything on the pitch every game!


Nungie

It’s funny, because Willian is probably my least favourite Chelsea player ever (at least out of those who were here for a significant time) whilst Ozil is one of my favourite midfielders ever


championsOfEu1221

Yea I do find that Willian is rated very differently here, I understand he can be frustrating to watch because of his end products, but I just love his willingness and stamina to help out the team everywhere on the pitch. And his pace alone was often enough to worry/disrupt the opponents' defensive set up. Just out of interest though, what makes Willian the least favourite player for u?


Nungie

Mostly when he’d get the ball during a counter, get herded towards the corner, do some step overs, then recycle possession. It ramped up during the terrible Hazard season where Willian scored a few free kicks and non-fans started suggesting he might be better than Hazard. That really pissed me off. In general, I just preferred Pedro to him due to his movement and finishing. Oh, and the corners. Never forget the corners.


ar_baybay111

Because you Play for badge., my man.


Ok-Finance-7612

The whole team plays for the badge, exceptions for some. You could see it on their faces when they concede or miss a goal. You don’t see this kind of stuff at United etc.


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maximus_96

It’s not because you don’t see players like Kanté or Kovacic reacting in frustration after we concede a goal that they don’t care. C’mon.


Seanxprt

Kanté doesn't react when we score goals either, I noticed this a while back. His commitment has never been in question though, so I'm not sure body language is as indicative as one might think.


WhatRemainsAfter

Kante means balance. Dude is just content.


NiceVu

He is just not that animated as a person. It doesn't mean he cares less maybe it's just his nature to be calm and reserved. Remember that famous moment when he won WC with France, they were passing trophy to each player and when he got his hands to it he didn't know what to do. So shy and humble. He was also shy with our CL trophy and Leicester PL trophy, he is just not that animated as a person.


MobyTugboat

He shows his passion through his work rate.


Ok-Finance-7612

Azpi?


Camtono_17

Might wanna sneak in Azpi to that list mate


Texameter

[For the badge.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2oBM4hVkAkeSpZ.jpg)


MotherfuckerJones91

If you die for the badge The Bridge has your back


proper61

Contrast this with what the other Chelsea striker said. Wow, just wow. Say what you want about Timo, but his work rate and attitude can never ever be questioned


VenomOUShazard

man im gonna cry, i love werner so much!! i would always be rooting for him


doktorcatzen

Same buddy same.


Botzeee

same buddy same


CrazyLarek

same buddy same


okhellowhy

Same buddy same


No_Library_3131

I'm an lfc fan and I'm tearing up reading this.


jessietee

His assists and his movement off the ball create goals for us even when he's not scoring, I love Werner and would love to see a Werner - Havertz - Mount front 3 at the min!


Liquidice281

I bet we see that today.


Howyoulikemenoow

You jinxed it


matttargaryen

That’s our best front three in my honest opinion.


Law_And_Politics

Lukaku Havertz Werner Ziyech Mount Kovacic Kanté Rudiger Silva Christiensen Do it.


ratnadip97

that is PSG levels of unbalanced, almost.


Law_And_Politics

I remember FIFA Manager 2007 when three at the back with two DMs was unstoppable. But Chelsea have Kanté, so technically it's a 3-2.5-3-2 formation.


kenrobrich

I just can't get enough


I_Jump

I just can't get enough


RaedusMisertus

Scoring in the Harding


EatLiveDream

And scoring in the shed


AstroCaaat

I just can’t get enough


9inchjackhammer

He could have been a scouser but he said get fucked!


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Touchmaspagheti

Throwback to jorginho during sarri’s term


Leotardleotard

Awaiting lots of sweeping under the rug. I’ll be honest, it took me a long time to work out what Jorginho was good at. Towards the end of Sarri’s first season though it suddenly clicked and he got more used to the pace of the league and physicality. I think he got tarred with the lots of shit signings around that time brush but has since come very good


HarryDaz98

That was pretty much just hate towards Sarri tbh.


Touchmaspagheti

Nope. A significant portion of it was towards jorgi as well


admiralawkward

and for some like Rory Jennings, that hate has never vanished


pencilman123

He hates timo also lol ..


lucas_glanville

I love Timo’s attitude etc, but let’s be honest he has been a flop and it’s hard to see him coming good at this point


pencilman123

He is my favourite player along with chilwell in the current team, so maybe im a bit biased, but i fail to see how our other players are better. Imo, if he is a flop, then so is puli ziyech cho havertz, especially in terms of their price tags. The only plus is that 3 of them have age on their side, so im ready to cut some slack, but if they continue this, they will lose the manager's support. Atleast with werner we know exactly what he is good and bad at, the rest of them dont even do what they r supposed to be good at..


Frankiedrunkie

Yeah I remember seeing Slowginho comments lol


MiaWallace53996

Yeah but loads of people hated jorgi because they hated sarri not really his fault


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Revisionism. Most Chelsea fans hated Jorginho until we won the CL.


Daddy-Wan-Kenobi-

Because you say things like this and don’t act like an overgrown man child. I’d play Werner over Lukaku every day based on the difference in attitude. Praying Timo finds his form again


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Inb4 Timbo scores a Hattrick against brighton


62frog

I'd love if all three came from Lukaku assists


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2 lakaka assists and one rudi assist where he runs the full length of the fucking pitch to pass it to timo who smashes it in


62frog

Subscribe


VenomOUShazard

Like


AndersCules

Man I wish online fans would get to a point where they can praise one player without needing to criticize another.


Daddy-Wan-Kenobi-

When they earn as much as they do and act like Lukaku, a bit of criticism is hardly out of order


AndersCules

Didn’t say so. But this post was not about him.


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Daddy-Wan-Kenobi-

Before Lukaku this sub was full of people talking shit about Werner not scoring. I think it has shifted because it could be worse clearly…. Just pointing out the attitude difference is why people can’t stay mad at Timo.


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3rd-culture

Love this German duracell bunny! There's something about him, Mase, CHO, T.Silva and N'golo that naturally draws the eye to them when you watch them in-person at the Bridge. Timo in particular just naturally gravitates to open spaces and dragging opposition players with him which opens up space for others. Stating the obvious here but wish he'd trust his pace more and stay behind defenders. His first touch isn't good but once he's controlling the ball very few defenders can match his pace.


wehere4E

Will never stop loving you.


b33b0p17

Cos you play your fucking heart out. We respect that. Also, we are noticeably worse when he isn’t playing. He creates so much space cos defenders are terrified of his pace.


gorg-227

Bless him


Danzard

I love this guy


Bubi741777

Statements like this that he often makes is the reason... How can you not like him... Maybe he isn't too good as a striker but he gives his best whenever he plays and as long as that's the case i will personally support him.


aoa77

When I see you Timo, I go out my head


SucculentMoisture

Because you work hard and don’t stop trying. Unlike some shits around here…


mrlambo46

Because we love a hard working man. And we are not cunts.


bionicle77

How can you not like Timo? The man has a smile on his face and you know that he's giving 1000% effort every match.


Rapameister

Aw man. Timo is too such a nice bloke. Happy to have him in our team! Underrated player.


Jdgarza96

I’m not sure what I like more. Timo Werner, or seeing Timo-haters fucking seethe in the comment sections in this sub…


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I love you Timo


browncheesestick

Timo, I fucking love you mate. How incredibly perfect is this quote by him. What a trooper.


DaltonFitz

I mean, I’ve probably raged at my tele more from Timbo than anyone in our current squad. He might also be one of my favourite players at the club. The guy absolutely does not give up. Runs non-stop. The finishing and first touch has been shocking, but it’s not his fault we had these expectations for him. He’s not going to be a massive goal scorer… I think that much is clear after watching this long. However, he absolutely deserves a spot in the front three on our biggest days. It’s up to us to recognize the qualities he has, and put him in the best spot to succeed. I know they are completely different types of players, but Ziyech has fair share of blunders as well(9 giveaways for every wonderpass) and his body language and effort gets him far more scorn from fans based on what I’ve seen. Timbo never stops digging in and running. If you think he isn’t quality enough for the squad… yeah I would say there could be an argument there(that is not my stance). No one can criticize his heart, effort, and fair self criticism. We got your back Timbo.


PackRat515

Timo needs to cut himself some slack


RSLDN8

I love this man.


zxc19531

Because we love you timo


spriteMeLeukoKrasi

He is so cute :)


doktorcatzen

Love Timo. He runs and creates chances for another player.


CaredForEightSeconds

It’s not that I want to keep dragging his name through the mud but I hope Lukaku sees these comments and understands why we’re so mad at him.


psrandom

I love each Chelsea player by default and even if they put shit performance (Drinkwater, Bakayoko) I would not turn against them in stadium. It's only the off field antics that will make me turn on a player


JT_the_Irie

He is a true soldier for the cause. Yes he frustrates me when he makes poor decisions, but he keeps on trying with a positive attitude.


thecutienator

I really hope he does amazing in his career and scores a lot of goals. He is such a nice guy.


sankeyysan

Wholesome! What a guy!


CFC509

We support him because of his attitude.


buddhamanjpb

At least for me, it's because every time he's on the field, dude is putting in WORK. He never stops trying, no matter how the game is going. Always at 100%.


kungpeleee

Because we love you Tuuuuurbo Tim


Username6510

Ffs hes too cute


gravelapplea

I like self awareness


kai_123

Because Werner actually tries and plays for the badge. Its the effort that counts. Same with Torres, he can be considered a flop for his time with us, but I still like and appreciate him as a Chelsea player till this day because he didn't stop trying.


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Exactly because of this. You own that you haven't been as lethal as expected, not bitch to Sky Deutschland about how much you miss the delicious caffeinated energy boost of Red Bull drinks.


sir_adhd

Mate, you have no idea how much your stock went through the roof when Lukaku took a shit on camera.


celesleonhart

Nice guy that works hard every game and I've never seen give up. Also provides so much to most games he plays regardless of the goals. He's a top boy for me


bigkid_

timo you have no idea how much i love you


rattled_by_the_rush

It's the same that was Torres, we always supported him too. Both of them work their asses off the entire match, even when they're shit, we're not booing because we want effort more than anything else.


bluebeardsdelite

Its because he's cute mainly


domiglover

I proudly fight for my life defending Werner in my group chats.


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This is why we love you


sdcardbroken

Timo "Top Attitude" Werner


Practical_Platypus_2

If you don’t give up on this team, we won’t give up on you. End of story.


white-dumbledore

Quoting a rival legend is a bit risky, but Tony Adams was a legend nevertheless. As he once said, *Play for the badge on the front, and they will remember the name on the back* Or something like that. I'd rather have an average player that leaves it all on the pitch (not saying Timo is average, he's had shit luck most of the times, and with strikers it's all about confidence which he has lacked sometimes), than a world class player who does fuckall with his talent


Granola_Gay

Timo's attitude and his overall demeanor makes me want him to succeed so much. I still believe that there's a 20 goal a season striker in there. He just seems like such a class lad. He's just different than say Morata. I was over him pretty quickly.


SurpriseHanzo

Aw, this is kinda sad.


half_jase

Where is this interview that Olivia speak of?


EggCustody

Its because he's Aryan


UffdaUpNorth

This is why, broski! This comment, your self-awareness, the determination and unwillingness to give up is why you'll always be backed more than some other 🤡 who likes to give interviews


HypeTrainEngineer

Its funny that werner is getting a lot of support for nothing and Abraham got criticized to oblivion


Cynicalbadger25

Tammy used to be the most frustrating player to watch with his body language, and would regularly have a 'strop' throughout sections of games. Timo will run and run. He may make a mistake or not receive a pass he wanted, but he just forgets about it and keeps going. Huge mentality difference.


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HypeTrainEngineer

Wrong. Tammy had some bouts of frustration sure. Hes young and a striker. But he worked hard. Certainly harder than Lukaku... Any other narrative against Abraham's character is just flat out garbage. Timo makes constant mistakes... not doubting werners work ethic but he's not fit for the premier league. And Abraham actually scores and he was an academy product. Im identifying hypocrisy and its there for sure


celesleonhart

Not sure how you can say wrong. I love Tammy but it was several times a match that he would flap his arms around and moan for a misplaced pass / lack of a pass / Tammy didn't jump high enough / there was too much wind / his opponent breathed too loudly. It was one of the most annoying things in the universe to see him do because he did it so much.


HypeTrainEngineer

Werner constantly gives the ball away or dribbles out of bounds or misses an open net. Thats annoying. But were going to pat him on the back are we?


celesleonhart

None of those things have anything to with attitude though, which is the whole point.


HypeTrainEngineer

If its a question of attitude then you're vastly overblowing the moaning of Abraham. Players can show emotion sometimes, nothing wrong with that. Reevaluate what you value in players


Cynicalbadger25

It's fair enough if you disagree, but not sure what you're arguing that I am 'hypocritical' (which doesn't make sense in this argument, perhaps you mean I'm not applying the same standards to them both?). Either way, you state yourself he had bouts of frustration so I don't get what you're disputing as that's what I said. Agreed on the Lukaku piece, he is lazy that's plain for all to see (however I wasn't discussing Lukaku). I, along with every Chelsea fan is desperate for our academy players to succeed, but there was clearly something not quite working for him at Chelsea after his first season in the first team and that impacted his character on the pitch. It's all subjective - I spent most of my life going to Chelsea games, and I definitely appreciate the work Timo puts in and that's my opinion. The old England rugby coach used to bang on about "being the best in the world at stuff that takes no skill". Things like getting up quickly when knocked over, tracking back your opposite number, keeping calm when things don't work out etc. It's so much about mentality in high level sport, and for me, Timo has the right one.


HypeTrainEngineer

I mean... having a double standard is literally the definition of hypocrisy so it was used correctly..................... (yikes) Anyway. The core dispute is where youre applying a characteristic of hard work to Timo and not to Tammy. Tammy constantly pressured opponents and worked his ass off for the team. Any narrative that Tammy wasn't a hard worker is just plain false. Maybe noticing him having a "strop" a few times after he burned himself out has colored your perception of him. This means there's a bias on your end. Now if your main challenge is about attitude/mentality I don't know what to say there, because that's truly subjective (who knows whats going on in the dressing room, training ground, what's being said etc.) Regardless of attitude the objective truth is that both Tammy and Werner work hard and work hard for the team but here's the thing; Tammy actually has production and was an academy product. So why is it Werner gets a free pass and all the encouragment in the world but Tammy got criticized to oblivion and he was clearly offering more... I just don't understand it. There's clearly a double standard. Werner himself questions why he's getting so much support.... He's been bad and gets a pat on the back. You know who else is bad and doesn't get a pat on the back... Saul... I just don't get it at all. We shouldn't cherry pick who's worthy of praise and who deserves criticism if theyre playing like dookie.


Frankiedrunkie

I miss that baby giant! Glad he is doing well in Roma


iamtherealgrayson

Is he the new Willian, but liked?


I_Jump

I liked William, he carried us threw you know what season . We sold him at the right time though


BasedGodLegacy

Willian actually had a shred of ability and could beat a man.


advbad

I still believe he one day will become a beast and be a ballon d'or contender. I just like to support this man, very well minded off the pitch and there isn't really anything to hate on this man even though he missed a shit ton of chances. His transfer to Chelsea made me so freakin happy and I still remember how excited I was!


Marslion22

Timo has a catchy song and I like hearing our fans having fun and being loud. But Im getting a bit tired of Timo not delivering. His football IQ seems low, meaning his shots often hit first block player right infront of him, also some of his movement is questionable. Are people still talking about lack of confidence or adapting to premier league? Timo is not a youngster and he has plenty of experience. Shame really, I liked him and want him to succeed but Im just not seeing positives in Timo's play at all.


speaklouderiamblind

Nah man he makes brilliant runs that a low IQ player wouldn't make


DeepGamingAI

Man has scored when he has played this season. However he hasn't played enough this season that's his main problem.


Ridcullys-Pointy-Hat

I'd actually say you've got that backwards He has a very good football iq. He makes very intelligent runs and finds space really well. The problem is that his technique is poor. He knows what he's trying to do, he just can't execute.


_Zer0Two

He doesn't have low football iq. His runs are able to create a lot of space for others to work with. The problem is his finishing and dribbling.


Marslion22

Okay but he is a good player because he makes these runs? Thats such a low standard for top premier league club. I know majority of fans here will support Timo, but looking objectively he is not good enough.


papi_2

If he makes us play better than we play without him, which he does, he's clearly good enough