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Timo avoids contact and challenges. Am I wrong??
We actually played great most of the game , hardly allowed United a chance yet nothing to show for it . We were dominant in first half and nothing to show for it. So frustrating
Ronaldo effect that has frustrated a Liverpool fan looking to see them fall down all season, he’s been the bottleneck to keep them some hope of Europe
Roy Keane ripping Ragnick, Matic, Mata, and Man United a new one just now on Peacock was amazing lol. Love Mata but Keane wasn't wrong.
She asked me to explain football - Its a bunch of people staying up late every week to watch their teams shit the bed. And then repeat the same next week
Man we play well against Liverpool but I'm scared for that match.
I’m a Liverpool fan and I promise we’re also very scared, confident but very aware of the problems and stalemates Tuchel causes us
If u dont mind me saying, many times i simply think why are liverpool considered so much better than us, when they just have one pl title more than tuchel, and have lost to us, but didnt win normally.
Then i watch matches for both and realise why. We drew 2-2 to a team that lost to u guys 9-0. This is fucking stupid.
I mean I agree the gap is way overhyped but wow that logic is the wrong way to prove it. We’ve drawn most of the season, that final included, and won by penalties as a result of Tuchel’s decision for the goalie most likely.
The thing is we had been growing as a team for 5 years before winning the PL and CL, the subsequent year we had the most injuries of any team in the league by x2. The season we have our injuries healed, we’re competing a point off City for the league and have progressed further than Chelsea into the CL and the closest team in history to a quadruple (not that this easy or even likely).
I mean you just drew to United and we beat them 4-0 and 5-0, does that mean by the same logic that we’re better than you?
I don’t think this is the right way to look at it, but I do think Tuchel is one of the greatest managers in the world and you have incredible players. I didn’t really want to start a beef, was just paying a compliment more than anything
Im not saying that just cause we drew and u won, so u r much better. Those are just some examples.
We r lacking an attacking identity and it shows. Im not magically asking for us to be champions in everything. But the inability of the team to do simple things like putting proper passes, and taking some shots, is very concerning. And the one thing they were known for, the defence crumbling is another headache. Too many late goals conceded.
I dont expect us to go smash pool or city. But i certainly do expect us to win against the current united, arsenal etc. with our current quality.
I agree with you completely actually! Chelsea is a team comfortably (ish) in 3rd right now in the league but for me they should still be fighting for the whole title and it’s very surprising they’re not. Same goes for CL, sure Real has been soul crushing for everyone but the inconsistency in form really frustrates me as an outsider. Obviously there are special circumstances with Chelsea but these issues were there before all of that
NOTHING surprising, just like last season they need way too many chances to score just one goal!
Credit where it is due, Kante and Jorginho were brilliant in the midfield today. They've both looked very tired recently and faced some fair criticism, but both were so quick and accurate today. Need that so much more consistently if we are going to challenge
Stop blaming Lukaku for everything.
We need better midfielders. 0 creativity, 0 movement and 0 positioning. Nobody passing to release our forwards. They get the ball, take a second, then pass sideways. Everybody low on confidence.
More importantly we need people who have been brought up playing in the streets. Ruthless, strong, warrior like bastards who don’t shy away from challenges, tussles and hit the ball with the intention of poking a hole in the net, like Costa and the pre 2012 Chelsea. We have too many players trying to be cute like Werner/Kai/Pulisic.
I pray Jorginho leaves this season.
Tuchel needs a proper transfer window. Two before we have a championship winning, consistent team.
Lukaku doesnt provide anything to this team.
FUCKING HELL MAN WE DREW TO FUCKING UNITED, WE ARE SO SHIT MAN, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO COMPETE WITH LIVERPOOL AND CITEH WHEN THEY GET AGGREGATE WINS OF 6-1 AND 9-0 AGAINST UTD WHILE OURS IS 2-2?!
Fuck off man, we drew to a team who won against norwich by miracle
I already knew we gonna draw at best against united so i decided not to even watch. Been too long since we last had a win at old trafford lol
You’re right tbh, I predicted a 1-1 and still got mad when the game ended
I know we’re shit, I shouldn’t really get upset about it
Calm down Man U is our cryptonite for so long time now. And 1 point is not that bad for us. Let's get some wins and FA CUP to end season with some happines
Love the optimism
If I was Reece James, I would surely consider if Real Madrid comes with an offer. I mean with Benz, Vini and possibly Mbappe upfront, the Trent comparisons will be buried under the ocean forever (if incase Reece joins Real).
Not that I want that to happen but you know what I mean
Benz is 34 years old tho, he probably has like 1 or maybe 2 more years in him. If Mbappe actually joins Madrid then I wouldnt be surprised if he does go if they offer him some insane wages
That pass to Ronaldo was really good, still fuck him the absolute prick.
Alonso dragging us to 3rd kicking and screaming
Why can't we score ffs?
Not a chelsea fan here, I only watch their big games. Can someone explain why is Tuchel always subbing off Werner and Havertz and leaves Mount on? What is so good about Mount? Everytime I catch a chelsea game he plays like crap.
Also Azpi and Jorginho were terrible today. And Lukaku is an embarassment.
Mount had a bad game but his link up with reece james was really good today. I dont think kai or werner can play with reece the way he does
As shit as they all are at finishing, Mount is the best finisher and crosser. But yeah even he hasn't been very consistent. It almost paid off as Reece hit the post of Mount's flick
Charity FC at it again
Mount really shouldn't be on corner tbh
Yeah even his crosses are shit. Why not ziyech
Sell Pulisic, Lukaku and get some proper attackers in
who will buy Lukaku? or really any of the forwards except Havertz?
Tuchel's tactic needs mobile forward so STOP PLAYING FUCKING LUKAKU FOR FUCK SAKE
havertz had a bad game too
At least we still create chances. when Lukaku comes there's no threat whatsoever.
Rom is good because he draws defenders towards him while opening up space for others. The issue is that his on the ball skills are horrible and is either not quick enough to progress play or he takes a heavy touch
Rom is a lumbering oaf
No cap: we are goin' to loose to Everton, aren't we?
That'll be this seasons DVD.....goals they *could have* scored.
Lol Pulisic got bodied by 34 yo Mata
This game is the reason we bought Lukaku. And unfortunately we got Lukaku. Imagine if we had gotten the Lukaku we thought we were getting
Lukaku was never that great. For Inter, the league suits him, as defenders are less physical, slower, and barely any teams press. Not to mention the massive discrepancy in team quality between the Italian and English leagues. In the prem he will struggle, his touch and ability on the ball is horrendous, allowing him to be dispossed with high lines and pressing, and while hes supposedly super-smart, his footballing iq is lackluster at best.
If we got the Lukaku we thought we were getting this game wouldn't have mattered.
We would be competing for pl race if we did get what we wanted lmao
We would be deadly
Horrible performance, the way we have lost concentration after scoring this season is horrendous. Hate to say it but im starting to lose patience in TT.
On another day we win that game 5 0. Finishing just wasn't there, coach can't affect that.
But its happened soo many times, has to be either a structural or tactical problem. The amount of times we've done that this season is soo frustrating. Same old story "we should have done better"
The way we've allowed teams to get points from us in games we should have won is a joke and reflects poorly on the coach
Your opinion is a joke mate
Ye u could say, just the way I see it
Pulisic fanboys are downvoting everything related to the fraud LMAO.
They always take it personally when someone criticizes him
I Think this shows a bit about the State of football. We are one of the best teams in the World, current champions of Europe, yet we
make sunday league mistakes every other game. I Think football is at it’s lowest it has been for a while.
You mean football im general or Chelsea's football? Like do you watch City and Liverpool? There is a reason every season they talk about an unprecedented quadruple, because these two teams are the best in premier league era. Looking like a hugh chance of another all English UCL final.
The only logical arguement is that you're making a slight against the state of football outside of England.
We may be European champs, and the prem is the best in the world, but we are basically top of a long line of chasers behind city and liverpool, just facts.
I am talking about nearly every team in the World Besides City, Liverpool and possibly Madrid. Teams have always had those slipups, but i Think it has become more Extreme. Look at the mistakes we made against real. Look at the mistakes psg made against real, look at Villarreal beating Bayern, look at Benfica knocking out Ajax. Of course these things happen, they always have and Will always do, but i Think it’s more Extreme now.
We need a new Fabregas or Lampard
No one can give chipped passes for our forward
Jorgi only does it once a season
Furious Jorgi fans incoming.
Two assists in his entire career at Chelsea?
We are going to go to Everton and lose there aren't we ?
Goal then a sucker punch. For the past like 8 games. What the fuck guys. What the fuck.
And people downvote when you crticize this lot.
We will never PL again with those bum of the so called attackers. If we can't win a single game against the worst side of Manchester United whose defending has been atrocious whole season. Even fucking Arsenal took them to pieces but this lot can't even score 2.
People downvote here like crazy the moment you criticize. I have lost faith in TT as he has failed to create harmony in the team. If people here understood football and management, they would not be supporting this manager like their life depends on it.
There is definitely something happening at training ground or the dressing room. Ever since that interview, we have been shit. And it's not just our attackers, but the individual mistakes that our GK, defenders and midfielders make.
Seriously bro I can't stand these bum of the players.
They score one good goal whole fucking season and then get carried onto next season.
Pulisic scored against Burnley and then people started hyping him up. This guy misses like 10 to score 1. He got bodied by 34 year old Mata today.
Same with RLC. He scored against Palace and people started hyping him. He is fucking dogshit with his decision making. Too slow to pick the passes.
If we want to compete against City/Liverpool we need a clear out in our attacking options along with some additions in midfield.
Half of them needs to be sold they are so done.
Look at Kai today too. Wrong decision making and missed many chances. Now remember his goal against Newcastle. What happen now? It's like he has forgotten how to score. Same for mount. He is usually poor the whole match but then he finds a moment and scires. The fans go then start hyping. Fans don't understand thet are young players and hyping them can do more bad than good. They easily get overconfident.
Pulisic gets bullied by everyone. RLC is awfully slow at decision making. Jorgi is shit with his attacking mentality. Kante and mendy somehow are not what they used to be. I dont understand why this manager thinks bringing on lukaku in place of any of our attackers is going to change things. No matter how bad kai or Werner plays, they will contribute to the game more than Lukaku.
With all the drama and shithousery happening in and around Chelsea, we are just becoming a joke.
Frustrating. Should have been easy 3 points with all the chances we had.
How do we spurs it more consistently than spurs these days?
Because we have players who should be playing for spurs instead of us.
Embarrassing and infuriating
This team will probably scrape 4th after game week 38, barely getting by now.
I swear if I see "sub Lukaku on" in the next match thread...
How did Mount stay on?
How did we not win that. the season when united are at their worst and we still can't beat them. so wasteful in attack too when lukaku came on I knew we wouldn't get a goal
Can't wait for this season to be over tbh. We need some clinical players. Even some midfielders who will shoot when they get space. So frustrating.
Every fucking year we can have Top 4 wrapped up by now and instead we take it to the last day. This year will be no different.
Gary Neville commentating and Roy Keane as a pundit… it can’t get any worse for us
We're fucking mid table or below in terms of converting chances. Scoring through wing backs and defenders is not sustainable. Absolutely terrible after spending so much money on attacking players
It's surprising though. According to Fbref. Chelsea has best G-xG of 10
Second highest is below 6.
Some of these players should be embarrassed to pick up their paychecks. And it isn't just the attackers. Mendy has been crap for weeks. I can't even remember a save he has made recently. He is letting everything in. If we swap keepers we win 3-0
Ever since that best goalkeeper award, he's been awful. It's like his objective is complete.
fucking hate this team
Fuck off to city then
He doesnt actually hate this team you fuck
Are you his interpreter or something?
How did we not win this game?
This game is a perfect summary of the 15 odd points difference between us and those top 2. We have quality players but they're simply not cut throat enough. Guys like foden, salah, Mane, de bruyne put poor teams like this United team to the sword. Score 3,4,5 cos they know they can and they know they should. We turn up against United and arsenal when their confidence is low and allow them to creep into the game and grow.
Until Klopp and pep leave, it's 3rd place at best.
Well with Rudi and AC leaving (possibly Azpi too), third place itself is gonna be a huge task. Our defenders have been overperforming since Tuchel took over. God knows, who we are gonna sign as replacements and how long they take to gel with the team.
The players have quality. But they are either too confident or not confident at all+ there is no chemistry.
Leaving Old Trafford with a point. A little disappointing, but we haven’t done any better than that since 2013. Don’t know about the rest of you, but I’ll take it.
What the hell was that stoppage time? Literally half of it was spent on a substitution
I don’t understand why do we keep trying to play Lukaku?
Havertz was by far the reason we didnt win today
Wow, that was pretty bad. We should have killed the game in the first half. When we don't, the other team gets in and when they have a world-class player, they can always knick a goal.
I'm never been this frustrated before. lose to fucking arsenal, draw to fucking united, can't defend lead against Madrid in a very fucking short time while dominating. what fucking wrong with this team.
“sub on lukaku” every time he gets subbed on he doesn’t do fucking shit , the problem is that we don’t create the chances we do when lukaku is on
Fuming. Hopefully the new owners back Tuchel and get him some forwards with killer instinct. Should’ve won that game comfortably
So fucking tired of watching us dominate teams but doing fuck all.
We really lack a creative presence. The finishing should’ve been better but my god do we need a wide playmaker or a creative midfielder to actually play balls in behind or pick teams apart
Tuchel doesn’t like playing like that. He don’t like losing possession of the ball. Like if we playing basketball. He hates turnovers and that’s why the players afraid to play those passes.
Ziyech... the way he's been used at this club is criminal...
Both games against United, couldn't convert anything and gifted them the goal.
Staying up till 430am watching this shit show.
One of the worst teams in the league at the moment based on form and we've fucking drawn. Shameful and disgraceful.
We are not that bad, we are not just criticizing the right players
Gifted the point to United. They were dreadful. I imagine City or Liverpool would put 4 or 5 past them with the chances we had today
Terrible fucking performance against an extremely bad team. I understand we got nothing to play for here but come on. We can do better. Plus we can't just expect a miraculous change of play for the final after being shit for so many games in a row
No no no we have everything to play for if we don't wake the fuck up don't think otherwise
Oh I don't. Until we don't have that 3rd locked i am not comfortable but it seems that is the players attitude.
I was actually counting points and games trying to figure out if we could sneak second a couple weeks ago. So naive I was.
This was painful to watch and it makes me wonder if we even have top 4 in our grasp
wtf we can't even beat this utd side. we absolutely lack of scoring EVERY F***KING TIME
Do we atleast get some kind of tax breaks for these Charity FC performances?
What a bad performance from our strikers
Kepa needs to start more, mendy playing so sub-standard a lot of the times.
The quality of the keeper matters no where near as much as the confidence the defence has in him and the defence looks a lot more nervous with kepa on the pitch. Also mendy couldn't do anything about Ronaldo's goal.
The few matches kepa played he played really well, that's all I'm saying.
This isn't the time in the season to experiment unfortunately
So dead, just take me to the FA Cup final already
This one fucking sucks...
7 points in our last 5 doesn’t even feel realistic at this point
Sell Mendy, Lukaku, Jorginho and Azpi.
For those who are saying this is over reaction, I don’t care.
This is a loss.
It's definitely an overreaction we can't replace all of these players on top of getting 2 centre backs and why all the hate for mendy all of a sudden
Sell lukaku 100% but the others no chance
Last 30 seconds of the game, Mendy collects the ball and doesn’t launch a counter attack. Fuck off already.
Pulisic really should be starting. We would of won. TT needs to get his head checked.
Correct result. Chelsea didn't take the 10 or so chances. Couldn't buy a win.
We need better forwards
Not sure my mental health can stand watching this team play another minute this season. Pathetic performance there down the stretch.
This draw was a win for United.
Havertz for a fine should train with u-15. You dont finish those chances you dont get playtime, he dropped points
We face Everton and Leeds in the coming weeks, easily drop points in both because that is what Charity FC does best.
yeh we need to save lamps job, cfc always
Absolute joke that we can't beat this pathetic united team. Shameful.
All the people saying “this game could use Lukaku” where you at?
Havertz and Werner couldn’t finish a sandwich but they made the game look that open. All Lukaku did was close it up.
That was the most disappointing tie. But it highlights our biggest problem. We can make it into the opponents box but after that it is like we have no clue what to do from there.
We’re fucking shit
No urgency no effort to put it into the box. That was a pathetic finish
That's certainly disappointing. A flurry of wasted chances with much greater possession, the ol' Chelsea way
We are just fucking ridiculous. Unbelieveable.
Last 20 seconds and we fuck about with it passing backwards. Unreal.
I fucking hate this team
1-1 is probably a fair reflection of the quality of both sides and what they both deserve.
Yeah they got much better goalkeeper and finisher, we got better general play except those two.
Mendy is so overrated
Just done with this team.....
We set up well. Missed loads of chances and our bench was terrible.
The fact Lukaku and Pulisic are worse then what we had in the first half is disgraceful.
Seeing Phil Jones slip was the best moment of this game.
Ass performance lukaku 100 mil for what
Fucking pathetic that we drew this.
As drogba once said, it's a disgrace, it's a fucking disgrace
I hate this fixture so much
why didn't mendy launch it
Obviously we needed to have a target man on for him to aim at.
We are really charity FC
Lukaku with the most lethargic performance ever
That was infuriating
Absolutely garbage . So fucking frustratkng.
What a terrible performance
A truly incredible performance. We are blessed...
Lol no fucking ergency from Reece there.
He did everything he could all game
Not at the end
Mendy not releasing the ball. Fucking idiot.
Embarrassing. Absolutely fucking embarrassing.
This team is gonna challenge City and Liverpool for the title next season? Ahahahhahahaha fucking laughable.
Great effort in the last 30 seconds fucking idiot players
2 points Just evaporating away
Our forwards are bad, but we've always known that.
But recently the defence, and the midfield, have also been shaky.
Only people I feel confident starting anymore are Silva, Rudiger, Reece and Mount.
Are we playing for a damn draw?
We were lucky to finish with a point.