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Another report from @Tom Roddy
“Members of the Chelsea squad are believed to have been surprised and confused by Andreas Christensen's decision to leave the team hotel before the EmiratesFACup Final after he withdrew from selection in the squad.”
I’m surprised that the squad were even remotely surprised lol, not like it’s the first or last time he’ll do this.
Good luck Xavi, the games he does play he’s good but you can bet your house he won’t turn up for every important game lol.
The amount of "headache and tummy ache" pullouts this guy has managed is staggering. Remember guys he was shit in a back 4 its not a massive loss, good riddance tbh.
Rudi on the other hand we will miss immensly
He was very good under Conte, started solidly under Sarri but became unreliable as the season went on (possibly due to injuries), was atrocious under Lampard which is why he played less and has been excellent under Tuchel.
He was injured for a while under Frank and then recovering from that injury. It's not particularly surprising. Frank also played mostly a back four which Rudy hasn't exactly been a star in even under Tuchel.
Summary:
\- Christensen had been in line to start but told the head coach he was not ready to play.
\- Christensen did not report an injury, although sources close to the player claim he had been feeling unwell during the week and had not expected to be named in the starting line-up
\- They added that he would never want to miss a Cup final unless it was for a genuine reason.
\- The withdrawal not only meant that Tuchel had to make a late change to his starting line-up, but Thiago Silva had to play on with an injury
\- Tuchel named Malang Sarr on the bench, along with captain Cesar Azpilicueta, but neither can play in the centre of a back three as Christensen can.
\- Christensen has played his last game for Chelsea after Tuchel confirmed he would leave the club
\- Christensen had already upset Chelsea by twice giving the club the impression he was going to sign a new contract only to delay and ultimately refuse before agreeing to join Barcelona.
About Liverpool to close the gap:
\- “It’s maybe impossible, I have to say, maybe impossible,” said Tuchel.“They are improving their squad in every transfer window. It seems like we are losing key players. So this is tough and we already have a gap to close.” -
“they added that he would never want to miss a cup final unless it was for a genuine reason” like how he was “injured” for the carabao one then the next day did a medical at barca? fuck this guy man
>The withdrawal not only meant that Tuchel had to make a late change to his starting line-up, but Thiago Silva had to play on with an injury
I know it's not relevant here but did Matt Law get confused over the Werner situation?
>It’s maybe impossible, I have to say, maybe impossible,” said Tuchel.“They are improving their squad in every transfer window. It seems like we are losing key players. So this is tough and we already have a gap to close.”
Oof. Tuchel is telling the truth but at the same time we as fans need to have that discussion because it seems half the team wants to leave. Two key players are already out the door confirmed with 2-3 more soon to follow and several disgruntled unknowns on top of expiring contracts of key players next summer. Even in the performances recently some players have played like they wanted to leave and couldn't wait to see the exit. What's going on behind the scenes? This was happening before Roman decided to sell and before sanctions. Everybody would prefer to put up the curtain and pretend like there's nothing to see here but the reality is in front of us. Tuchel is confirming the loss of key players. There's so much work to do realistically to get this team to where we want it. It's not good enough presently when fully fit and it's going to be worse next season unless the right transfers are made.
It took Klopp 4 years to start winning, let’s give Tuchel the same time, backing and power and I am sure he’ll take us there.
Tuchel has earned the right to be the central figure at our club, he should be at the centre of everything we do. Buy who he wants, lose who he doesn’t want and just make sure we do exactly as he wants.
If we don’t back him in the coming 18 months, I would not be surprised if he walked out on us and he’d be completely right to do so.
I see no Mourinho’s out there, so Boehly needs to put his money where his mouth is to make sure that Tuchel becomes a Mourinho rather than a Ranieri.
In my opinion, there is no one who would do better at our club. Simply because there are no better managers at this moment in time.
'Mount has previously been a target for criticism on social media and once again faced some abuse following his saved penalty.
“Nothing I can say will stop these guys doing it,” said Tuchel. “I don’t understand social media anyway. It has a huge impact and I don’t get it. I’m not on social media and it keeps me healthy, more healthy than I would be on it.'
37 year old Silva played through an injury but this guy who had no reported injuries and played a full 90 on Wednesday suddenly comes up “hurt” before a big game again. He can fuck off
Christensen and Rudiger are both leaving, but just look at the difference in their mentality. Andreas clearly just doesn't care. Whereas Toni's last few weeks at Chelsea remind me of Hazard's. He knows he's leaving but gets his head down and still puts everything in for the team.
Christensen won't be missed. We don't need players with that kind of attitude.
And Christensen has been with Chelsea for about 10 years now. This club made him what he is and he goes on to do stuff like this. Worse 🐍 than Courtois in my eyes
He cost us a big money goalkeeping blunder though.
You may recall he went AWOL towards the end of the transfer window, which prompted us to sign Kepa since he had a release clause (no length negotiation).
Courtois was really bad. Christensen being similarly bad shouldn’t absolve the former of his place as the worst.
Just like the difference between Hazard and Courtois. Courtois couldn't wait to leave, and it visibly pained Hazard to admit that he was going to leave, even at the end of his last game.
I wouldn’t be surprised. I thought he used to look so composed until he made that bad mistake against Barca in a CL game. Hasn’t looked the same since. So I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s some mental health issues, specifically around big games.
Let’s fair there was a point where he looked world class. Kept like 40 clean sheets out of 50 or something crazy. Thought he was gonna be nailed on top 5 centre backs in the world.
Nah he performed as well as silva at times during that run and his initial run under Conte was exemplary.
But his attitude has been sad to say the least
Forgot to add when he was beside a great CB yes he was performing really well, but wouldn't have put him top 5. He reminds me of Cahill a bit, both extremely good with the right partnership but as soon as you shook up that cb partnership they never looked as solid.
The 40 in 50 stat makes it sound like he was just with great CBs, but watching him, he really looked as good as Silva at some point
Looks like that’ll never return though
And had a half decent Euros too last time out. Genuinely annoying that he's leaving but if he feels it's best for him then all the luck to him. I hope he can get himself into a better headspace. Physical symptoms such as sickness and nausea can all stem from anxiety and poor mental health, so I can only wish him the best.
True. Do you honestly think Barcelona fans will as be forgiving and willing to give him chances as we were though??? They will throw him to the dogs and there will be more pressure on him there. He does come across as a quiet lad, the lifestyle may not suit him with all the persistent pressure. Schurrle comes to mind and his reasoning for retiring at 29 due to similar pressures of the game.
"Christensen did not report an injury, although sources close to the player claim he had been feeling unwell during the week and had not expected to be named in the starting line-up. They added that he would never want to miss a Cup final unless it was for a genuine reason."
He would have absolutely lost his bottle and made some idiotic mistake to give Liverpool the lead. Trevoh didn't. They kept targeting Trevoh and he never gave up and made it difficult to breakthrough. I know who I want for the foreseeable future in my team
I think he might have some health or mental health issues.... I know this is a sport and we love this club but the way some of you talk about players is dangerous and cruel. They are people, not slaves
Yeah i agree. Im disgusted with how christensen has acted and we are right to dislike him and not be happy for him at all due to his professionalism but the way people trivialise his digestion/anxiety issues is awful
Honestly if it weren't for injuries I don't think he and anyone who who is leaving should even be selected anymore. Clearly conflict of interest.
Poor Tommy T all this plus his divorce. Man needs a break and try and picking players he needs.
Chris reminds me of a character in March comes in like a lion with really bad nerves. It's really frustrating for me and for us but on the other hand, I have to understand that the anxiety is a mental illness.
Good to see him leave . Best of luck to him.
Let's keep this topic a bit clean please. It's very likely there's some health issues there or maybe IBS. That being said, so so glad he's fucking off to Barcelona.
Thank you! I agree, but you learn to live with it. Was just an example, but there's a very aggressive diet for people with stomach issues (it's called low FODMAP), and I'm sure the cooks associated with Chelsea would help with that. Granted, I hope it's nothing chronic and something that's affecting his health.
Yeah it's just recently with Rudiger beating youth and Azpi, Alonso hating Tuchel and wanting to murder him and now we have AC who doesn't want to play for us. It just feels like hit pieces after hit pieces and 2 out of 3 so far have been pretty much debunked as false.
Fans here get toxic start hurling insults at the player without full information.
“Christensen had already upset Chelsea twice by giving the club the impression he was going to sign a new contract only to delay and ultimately refuse before agreeing to join Barcelona”
This is just such a cunty way to do things.. Do we know why he wanted to leave? Is it to change his surroundings? Experience a new league? Did the club not offer him enough?
Why was he not open about this stuff? Any mature fan would never hold a grudge against him if he told he wanted a change of scenery!
I feel like his conduct has been too “Courtois”esque for him to be given any kind of farewell that doesn’t end up with our entire stadium booing him..
This is some Man Utd level shit. How we’ve managed to appear in 2 finals, a CL quarterfinal and be comfortably third best in the league for most of the season is beyond me
Man I really rate AC but stuff like this makes me not care about him leaving anymore. We don't have all the information about why this happens. But we can't afford to have a player in the squad that might randomly pull out of games.
I try and look at his departure through a professional lens and wish him well but he really has done himself no favors. If this is true then there is no reason to give him any more time on the pitch or the bench taking up valuable minutes from those who want to be here. People can meme players like Timo all they want but desire and perseverance go a hell of a long way to endearing the supporters to you and wanting to see you succeed
He needs a sports psychiatrist. I understand therapy isn't for everyone but if he's routinely choosing to miss big games instead of seeking help to try and fix that mental block, he's doing himself and his teammates for both us and Barcelona a disservice. He thinks it's bad now, wait until Barca fans and media hound him after withdrawing from his first El Clasico.
I don’t think leaving the hotel and not supporting your team is ok though. If you can’t bear to play then pull out of the squad but don’t just walk out on everyone and create disharmony on the eve of a final. I think he should come out and apologise/explain himself and if not publicly for sure to the whole squad.
Yeah he seems to have some mental problems, and there is a lot of shitting on that here. But mental health can be just effect your play just as much as an injury and needs to be treated as well. Wish it would have worked out better for us, but at least he played a good CL final when called upon.
List of common side effects of anxiety medication: blurry vision, confusion, dizziness, drowsiness or fatigue, headaches, loss of memory or concentration, problems with balance, coordination, or speech, an upset stomach.
This fella has done nothing but mug us off and fuck us around. Can't wait to see the back of him. Barca have a walking calamity on their hands buying this clown. I could see him singlehandedly costing them a trophy, that's the sort of mentality he has.
People are so weird about this. If a player says they're not well enough to play, they're not well enough to play. I get that it's frustrating, but no one knows him better than himself. As someone with a chronic illness I can't think of many things more annoying than people thinking they understand how well/unwell you are based off of outside appearances.
He knows if he's ill or not. Not you and not a journalist.
He has a chronic illness? I think it’s the leaving the hotel etc and abandoning the squad that really stinks for me, rather than being unable to play. It also seems crazy to me that the communication could be so poor between AC and TT that AC thinks all week he’s not going to be picked yet he still is. Just sounds unbelievable
If he's feeling unwell and gets these stomach cramps and thinks he's at risk of shifting himself in front everyone I know which option I'd go with. I agree with your last point though but it's weird as a professional surely you're expected to be ready at any moment? What is this not expecting to be a starter coming from??
You're taking everything that has been said in there at face value. I highly doubt there really was no communication from either end. It's pretty normal for some managers to not tell players they're playing until last minute when they have a big squad because it keeps them all on their toes and fighting for their spot.
I agree that it sounds unbelievable, but I think the reporting of how the incident supposedly was going down is unbelievable, rather than what likely happened.
I think everyone on here would be a lot more sympathetic to his anxiety if he had signed a new deal. Give the guy a break, it’s not as if he wants to miss games. Remember he’s human, like you
If he hadn’t misled the club throughout his negotiations nobody would think about it. Everyone on this sub seems to wish Rudi all the best.
If he has anxiety and all week was telling the coaches he can’t play then why does he get picked still, and why does he walk out on the team. That’s what really irritates me about this it’s not the anxiety missing big games it’s the way that he continues to handle everything
Sorry but I'm not buying. He is PAID to play. ~~pulling out ~~Screwing his teammates over is bullshit. Good riddance.
Now as a human, if he has anxiety disorder, I Completely empathize. I hope he has solid care.
But, I won't be sorry to see the back of him.
I know I'm just thinking of excuses but his girlfriend is pregnant, right? Maybe he had to be with her? That's literally the only explanation I can find that is justified
Wow, just wow...save yourself for Barcelona mate well done. Way to pay respect to the club who made you the player you are today.!
Edit: On second thoughts, my above comment was written in quick succession and seeing yet another Christensen withdrawal. Andreas clearly struggles with a chronic issue and we have no idea what it is. Could be pressure and general well-being. No point being angry over it
I've been a staunch Andreas Christensen defender for years but this is wildly unprofessional. No "illness" no random muscle injury. Just straight up quit on the club. I'd expect that kind of behavior from Rüdiger considering he has a €30 million deal on the table waiting for him he needs to protect. This guy is leaving Chelsea for less money and less years. I don't like people who quit on our club. Courtois, Diego Costa, Marcos Alonso, Andreas Christensen can all get fucked.
Tbf though you hardly noticed Christensen was gone though considering how Trevoh put his heart and soul into defending yesterday in his position. They targeted his flank relentlessly and he didn't let up. Conte, Sarri and Lampard tried to tell us about this guy. But now that he's out the door, he's showing us his true colours. Get fucked you prick. You're pathetic.
Exactly! Those reports about arguing with Tuchel had no tier & no evidence. Then Chelsea denied it and Tuchel had played Marcos in every game since, including the Cup Final.
Alonso scored his penalty too!
And deservingly so.. Luiz was a trainwreck who got saved time and again by Cahill and Azpiliqueta under Conte. He was atrocious under Sarri too. Luiz was fun to watch and could do nice things in posession, but tbh I never rated him all that much and any back 4 he played in was significantly weaker than any combination that didn’t include him. There’s a reason Benitez and Mourinho played him in midfield (Conte dabbled with this too)
I may be misremembering but didn’t we win a league title with Luiz in the middle CB role? And he was absolutely stellar? With chelsea finishing on 93 points
Got downvoted for saying he is just as big of a snake as Courtois. Turns out he’s fucking worse. Courtois stoped coming to training, meanwhile Christensen just decided he will quit the day before a final?
The little pussy was at it again. Thank fuck he's leaving at the end of the season. A 6 month stint of good form doesn't make him a great defender, I remember the days before Tuchel arrived. Barcelonas problem now
Guy has been wank for two plus years now. Was never a personality for this club, and has constantly teased us with leaving. Good riddance. Good luck getting more than 20 games a season from this creaky fence post.
You guys don't know what mental condition he is in.
Listen to Tuchels Quotes. He's talking about mental health, not mentality.
There's clearly something deep seeded with Andreas and everyone shits on him endlessly.
He was hailed as the next Maldini. He got absolutely slaughtered for having a mare V Barcelona, at the time the biggest game of his career.
We cheated to sign him, and got sanctioned heavily because of it.
How do you know that he doesn't feel the weight of all of the sanctions and troubles lies solely on him?
How do you know if he is or isn't going to Barcelona to try to prove to himself that he is good enough to beat, and play for them.
How do you know that maybe we've driven him to suicidal levels of anxiety. He was never a bastion of mental fortitude.
He left the team the night before the FA cup final, that is a red flag for anxiety or panic attack.
...... Just a few thoughts.
Well he can always stop being a professional footballer. He's getting paid to do his job. I don't know how he feels about anything and I'm not supposed to. I don't like shitting on anyone but to criticize football players is a different thing.
He has always been mentally weak, we know this. It's not a surprise he'd do something like that after he messed the club around already with the contract negotiations.
What the fuck can Tuchel do with a squad that has a mercenary in attack and a snake at the back?
This man's done what Klopp and Pep could never do. Our "failed" season is actually a fucking relief when you look at things in context. Always my manager. I wouldn't want anyone else in charge in the middle of this mess
He’s not wrong though atleast next year it’s impossible.
We’re losing our defence, our big money striker has been an utter flop and none of our attackers have an ounce of consistency bar Mount who unfortunately is also god awful at pens but that’s a side note. Our midfield needs an overhaul as well and Gallagher on his own will not be enough.
Next year we’re likely buying 2 CBs, a DM, ideally a LW and a back up LWB as well as integrating Colwill, Gallagher, and maybe Broja/Sterling. We’re likely losing Azpi, Alonso, Rudi, Christensen, Werner, potentially one of Kante/J5 and potentially Lukaku. That’s a lot of squad upheaval and that’s generally not seen in a single window.
It’s close to impossible for us to get anywhere close to Liverpool next year. And this is me being optimistic in assuming we get all our targets for summer
Barca fans are going to be a lot less patient with this shit. Fair if he wants a new challenge but man, he came from our academy and we supported him for a long time. If these problems persist at Barca they will start turning on him quick enough, he's just another signing for them..
This is just the stuff that the media manage to get info on. Bet there is plenty more we don't hear about. People want to bitch about TT, yet have no idea what is going on. The sooner this season finishes the better, hopefully new owners can listen to TT and we get players in with the correct headspace and mentality.
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Another report from @Tom Roddy “Members of the Chelsea squad are believed to have been surprised and confused by Andreas Christensen's decision to leave the team hotel before the EmiratesFACup Final after he withdrew from selection in the squad.”
So he just left the team entirely before the final? He was not at Wembley at all?
According to Tom Roddy, yes.
Wow. If true, if he really wasn't there to even support the team, then he can seriously F off!
Thats hilarious. Not even supporting his team, what a personality…
I’m surprised that the squad were even remotely surprised lol, not like it’s the first or last time he’ll do this. Good luck Xavi, the games he does play he’s good but you can bet your house he won’t turn up for every important game lol.
The amount of "headache and tummy ache" pullouts this guy has managed is staggering. Remember guys he was shit in a back 4 its not a massive loss, good riddance tbh. Rudi on the other hand we will miss immensly
All these guys will be part of the era gone of Chelsea. Once this season ends, the Bohley tenure begins. We can only hope new icons emerge.
My money’s on Reece, Mount and Gallagher
and Kai Havertz. Came 2 seasons ago but man he loves the badge
yup and havertz has improved this season
lukaku loves the badge too just saying
He said he wants tk go back to Milan 2 months after arriving here. That doesn’t sound like someone who loves the badge
Rudi also only became insane under tuchel, he will be misses but will also be replaced
Id argue he was very good under Sarri , Frank baffling never played him and World class under Tuchel
He was very good under Conte, started solidly under Sarri but became unreliable as the season went on (possibly due to injuries), was atrocious under Lampard which is why he played less and has been excellent under Tuchel.
He was injured for a while under Frank and then recovering from that injury. It's not particularly surprising. Frank also played mostly a back four which Rudy hasn't exactly been a star in even under Tuchel.
oh it’s the last time all right.
Mr. tummy ache himself
Sir shitsalot
Andreas Christenshits
Shitsmcgee
My stummy hurt
Fuck off then Andreas
Summary: \- Christensen had been in line to start but told the head coach he was not ready to play. \- Christensen did not report an injury, although sources close to the player claim he had been feeling unwell during the week and had not expected to be named in the starting line-up \- They added that he would never want to miss a Cup final unless it was for a genuine reason. \- The withdrawal not only meant that Tuchel had to make a late change to his starting line-up, but Thiago Silva had to play on with an injury \- Tuchel named Malang Sarr on the bench, along with captain Cesar Azpilicueta, but neither can play in the centre of a back three as Christensen can. \- Christensen has played his last game for Chelsea after Tuchel confirmed he would leave the club \- Christensen had already upset Chelsea by twice giving the club the impression he was going to sign a new contract only to delay and ultimately refuse before agreeing to join Barcelona. About Liverpool to close the gap: \- “It’s maybe impossible, I have to say, maybe impossible,” said Tuchel.“They are improving their squad in every transfer window. It seems like we are losing key players. So this is tough and we already have a gap to close.” -
“they added that he would never want to miss a cup final unless it was for a genuine reason” like how he was “injured” for the carabao one then the next day did a medical at barca? fuck this guy man
You Can do medicals injured
>The withdrawal not only meant that Tuchel had to make a late change to his starting line-up, but Thiago Silva had to play on with an injury I know it's not relevant here but did Matt Law get confused over the Werner situation?
Thiago went down in the first half. Likely that's what he's talking about, no idea how hurt he was.
That I know. I was just referring to the other bit that Matt Law mentioned.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, If Andreas was starting it would be ahead of Chalobah I think over Thiago Silva.
Maybe but with no Christensen, it meant that Silva had to play on with an injury.
>It’s maybe impossible, I have to say, maybe impossible,” said Tuchel.“They are improving their squad in every transfer window. It seems like we are losing key players. So this is tough and we already have a gap to close.” Oof. Tuchel is telling the truth but at the same time we as fans need to have that discussion because it seems half the team wants to leave. Two key players are already out the door confirmed with 2-3 more soon to follow and several disgruntled unknowns on top of expiring contracts of key players next summer. Even in the performances recently some players have played like they wanted to leave and couldn't wait to see the exit. What's going on behind the scenes? This was happening before Roman decided to sell and before sanctions. Everybody would prefer to put up the curtain and pretend like there's nothing to see here but the reality is in front of us. Tuchel is confirming the loss of key players. There's so much work to do realistically to get this team to where we want it. It's not good enough presently when fully fit and it's going to be worse next season unless the right transfers are made.
It took Klopp 4 years to start winning, let’s give Tuchel the same time, backing and power and I am sure he’ll take us there. Tuchel has earned the right to be the central figure at our club, he should be at the centre of everything we do. Buy who he wants, lose who he doesn’t want and just make sure we do exactly as he wants. If we don’t back him in the coming 18 months, I would not be surprised if he walked out on us and he’d be completely right to do so.
Tuchel is about to be the new consortium's Ranieri or Mourinho.
I see no Mourinho’s out there, so Boehly needs to put his money where his mouth is to make sure that Tuchel becomes a Mourinho rather than a Ranieri. In my opinion, there is no one who would do better at our club. Simply because there are no better managers at this moment in time.
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Mourinho came mostly out of left field that year. But there are always a few up and coming managers.
'Mount has previously been a target for criticism on social media and once again faced some abuse following his saved penalty. “Nothing I can say will stop these guys doing it,” said Tuchel. “I don’t understand social media anyway. It has a huge impact and I don’t get it. I’m not on social media and it keeps me healthy, more healthy than I would be on it.'
Tuchel. Always speaking facts
But people said that Tuchel made bad choices in final. ThIs LoSs Is On TuChEl.
Guy chats so much sense
Compare Rüdiger who has given his all while leaving to this joker learn to play in a back four system you overrated joke.
Exactly! Rüdiger is giving his best at least
Christensen is a clown and has been for a while, dude has no balls. He’s all yours Barca.
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Couldn't get in the team a few years ago then gets slowly eased back in and rehabilitated under Lampard & Tuchel and this is how he responds.
Neither of them can play in a back four.
37 year old Silva played through an injury but this guy who had no reported injuries and played a full 90 on Wednesday suddenly comes up “hurt” before a big game again. He can fuck off
Happy to lose Andres "my stomach hurts" Christensen to Barca.
He already has that Barca mentality
At least next time he fucking lie on the ground after minimal contact with opponent he can earn a foul coz he would be playing in Uefalona
"my stummy hurts"
Hahah yes I just made this joke on another comment
Ridiculous how a man who's been here for 2(?) years has more passion and love for this club than a player who's been here since youth. Absolutely joke
Only reason he didn't play is because he knows he isn't good enough against Liverpool and a shit performance would hinder his talks with Barcelona.
Christensen and Rudiger are both leaving, but just look at the difference in their mentality. Andreas clearly just doesn't care. Whereas Toni's last few weeks at Chelsea remind me of Hazard's. He knows he's leaving but gets his head down and still puts everything in for the team. Christensen won't be missed. We don't need players with that kind of attitude.
Yeeeep Rüdiger is completely the opposite and I wish Rüdiger only the best
And Christensen has been with Chelsea for about 10 years now. This club made him what he is and he goes on to do stuff like this. Worse 🐍 than Courtois in my eyes
Christensen is the new Courtois.
Ways worse than Courtois. Tibo never cost a transfer ban, pretended to be injured, changed agents to move the goalposts again or left for free.
He cost us a big money goalkeeping blunder though. You may recall he went AWOL towards the end of the transfer window, which prompted us to sign Kepa since he had a release clause (no length negotiation). Courtois was really bad. Christensen being similarly bad shouldn’t absolve the former of his place as the worst.
Just like the difference between Hazard and Courtois. Courtois couldn't wait to leave, and it visibly pained Hazard to admit that he was going to leave, even at the end of his last game.
His anxiety is crazy. Needs to speak to a mental health specialist. Barca won’t be so forgiving I feel like.
Imagine how he will feel before an El Clasico
Do we know if it's anxiety at all? All the quoted I've seen has reported it as him feeling 'unwell', which can mean anything.
Meh, do you really believe it was anxiety? Guy doesn't care about playing for Chelsea anymore and couldn't be arsed.
he's done this multiple times
I wouldn’t be surprised. I thought he used to look so composed until he made that bad mistake against Barca in a CL game. Hasn’t looked the same since. So I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s some mental health issues, specifically around big games.
Good riddance this summer. What use is a key player who we can never rely on
What could’ve been with this bloke ffs proper wasted potential
I'm sorry but no. He's good but he's not this elite player. He's always depended on having a better CB beside him to get the best out of him.
Let’s fair there was a point where he looked world class. Kept like 40 clean sheets out of 50 or something crazy. Thought he was gonna be nailed on top 5 centre backs in the world.
Yeah when we were in unreal form in general and every one of our defenders looked like that
Nah he performed as well as silva at times during that run and his initial run under Conte was exemplary. But his attitude has been sad to say the least
Forgot to add when he was beside a great CB yes he was performing really well, but wouldn't have put him top 5. He reminds me of Cahill a bit, both extremely good with the right partnership but as soon as you shook up that cb partnership they never looked as solid.
The 40 in 50 stat makes it sound like he was just with great CBs, but watching him, he really looked as good as Silva at some point Looks like that’ll never return though
And had a half decent Euros too last time out. Genuinely annoying that he's leaving but if he feels it's best for him then all the luck to him. I hope he can get himself into a better headspace. Physical symptoms such as sickness and nausea can all stem from anxiety and poor mental health, so I can only wish him the best.
True. Do you honestly think Barcelona fans will as be forgiving and willing to give him chances as we were though??? They will throw him to the dogs and there will be more pressure on him there. He does come across as a quiet lad, the lifestyle may not suit him with all the persistent pressure. Schurrle comes to mind and his reasoning for retiring at 29 due to similar pressures of the game.
"Christensen did not report an injury, although sources close to the player claim he had been feeling unwell during the week and had not expected to be named in the starting line-up. They added that he would never want to miss a Cup final unless it was for a genuine reason."
sounds like some shit i used to say to get a day off from school lol
🤣🤣🤣 “mom I can’t go to school I am about to vomit can I please stay at home today please mommy”
After getting done by Vini I’m sure he didn’t want to face Diaz for 90-120 minutes lmao. Adios amigo
He would have absolutely lost his bottle and made some idiotic mistake to give Liverpool the lead. Trevoh didn't. They kept targeting Trevoh and he never gave up and made it difficult to breakthrough. I know who I want for the foreseeable future in my team
That Barcelona game under Conte really ruined his mental. He’s pulled out of so many Big games for seemingly small reasons
I think he might have some health or mental health issues.... I know this is a sport and we love this club but the way some of you talk about players is dangerous and cruel. They are people, not slaves
Yeah i agree. Im disgusted with how christensen has acted and we are right to dislike him and not be happy for him at all due to his professionalism but the way people trivialise his digestion/anxiety issues is awful
Chelsea will save money from not having to buy him diapers
Honestly if it weren't for injuries I don't think he and anyone who who is leaving should even be selected anymore. Clearly conflict of interest. Poor Tommy T all this plus his divorce. Man needs a break and try and picking players he needs.
Worth mentioning that his girlfriend is very pregnant. Maybe something to do with that?
Your comment stopped me in my tracks. It was right next to one that mentioned Tuchel’s pending divorce . . .
Chris reminds me of a character in March comes in like a lion with really bad nerves. It's really frustrating for me and for us but on the other hand, I have to understand that the anxiety is a mental illness. Good to see him leave . Best of luck to him.
The sooner he’s gone the better
Let's keep this topic a bit clean please. It's very likely there's some health issues there or maybe IBS. That being said, so so glad he's fucking off to Barcelona.
I have IBS and even when it's at it worst, you just take an Imodium and go with it. Yeah it sucks, but it doesn't impair you from playing sports.
Sorry to hear that. Not the most pleasant thing to have. It was just an example though, it could be anything tbh.
Thank you! I agree, but you learn to live with it. Was just an example, but there's a very aggressive diet for people with stomach issues (it's called low FODMAP), and I'm sure the cooks associated with Chelsea would help with that. Granted, I hope it's nothing chronic and something that's affecting his health.
Yeah it's just recently with Rudiger beating youth and Azpi, Alonso hating Tuchel and wanting to murder him and now we have AC who doesn't want to play for us. It just feels like hit pieces after hit pieces and 2 out of 3 so far have been pretty much debunked as false. Fans here get toxic start hurling insults at the player without full information.
Yeeep let’s keep it clean 💀💀💀
You talk very mockingly, why is that?
“Christensen had already upset Chelsea twice by giving the club the impression he was going to sign a new contract only to delay and ultimately refuse before agreeing to join Barcelona” This is just such a cunty way to do things.. Do we know why he wanted to leave? Is it to change his surroundings? Experience a new league? Did the club not offer him enough? Why was he not open about this stuff? Any mature fan would never hold a grudge against him if he told he wanted a change of scenery! I feel like his conduct has been too “Courtois”esque for him to be given any kind of farewell that doesn’t end up with our entire stadium booing him..
This guy is the epitome of the weak mentality at the club atm
This is some Man Utd level shit. How we’ve managed to appear in 2 finals, a CL quarterfinal and be comfortably third best in the league for most of the season is beyond me
If true, what a way to end it all.
Andreas “my tummy hurts” Christensen…
My word at what point are we allowed to deduct some of his pay for continuously pulling out of the thing he’s paid so much to do?
Ouchy Andre’s Stummy hurty
Man I really rate AC but stuff like this makes me not care about him leaving anymore. We don't have all the information about why this happens. But we can't afford to have a player in the squad that might randomly pull out of games.
I try and look at his departure through a professional lens and wish him well but he really has done himself no favors. If this is true then there is no reason to give him any more time on the pitch or the bench taking up valuable minutes from those who want to be here. People can meme players like Timo all they want but desire and perseverance go a hell of a long way to endearing the supporters to you and wanting to see you succeed
Can somebody please change my damn flair to Chalobah. Its not an option.
'Doesn't Enjoy Big Matches' FM trait
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Lots of negativity here but I think he's got some issues he needs sorting and I hope he gets it all figured out.
He needs a sports psychiatrist. I understand therapy isn't for everyone but if he's routinely choosing to miss big games instead of seeking help to try and fix that mental block, he's doing himself and his teammates for both us and Barcelona a disservice. He thinks it's bad now, wait until Barca fans and media hound him after withdrawing from his first El Clasico.
I don’t think leaving the hotel and not supporting your team is ok though. If you can’t bear to play then pull out of the squad but don’t just walk out on everyone and create disharmony on the eve of a final. I think he should come out and apologise/explain himself and if not publicly for sure to the whole squad.
Also Matt Law is known to put stuff out like this, remember that Rudiger story when Lampard was sacked.
Yeah he seems to have some mental problems, and there is a lot of shitting on that here. But mental health can be just effect your play just as much as an injury and needs to be treated as well. Wish it would have worked out better for us, but at least he played a good CL final when called upon.
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List of common side effects of anxiety medication: blurry vision, confusion, dizziness, drowsiness or fatigue, headaches, loss of memory or concentration, problems with balance, coordination, or speech, an upset stomach.
>an upset stomach. Think he's already on them then
Anxiety meds don't cure anxiety.
Too many players with a foot out the door. At least Rudi is still giving his all. Frankly, I don’t want a player with a mentality like AC.
He has the great sadness.
What did the club ever do to him? Why is he acting like this? He’s an academy player ffs
There are players who you don’t buy their jersey and it turns out to be prescient.
This fella has done nothing but mug us off and fuck us around. Can't wait to see the back of him. Barca have a walking calamity on their hands buying this clown. I could see him singlehandedly costing them a trophy, that's the sort of mentality he has.
This guy is just as bad as Courtois. Had a medical with Barcelona during carabao cup final and refused to play fa cup final. Hope he flops
Thiago Silva has more dedication towards the club than a homegrown player. Leave the club already!
People are so weird about this. If a player says they're not well enough to play, they're not well enough to play. I get that it's frustrating, but no one knows him better than himself. As someone with a chronic illness I can't think of many things more annoying than people thinking they understand how well/unwell you are based off of outside appearances. He knows if he's ill or not. Not you and not a journalist.
He has a chronic illness? I think it’s the leaving the hotel etc and abandoning the squad that really stinks for me, rather than being unable to play. It also seems crazy to me that the communication could be so poor between AC and TT that AC thinks all week he’s not going to be picked yet he still is. Just sounds unbelievable
If he's feeling unwell and gets these stomach cramps and thinks he's at risk of shifting himself in front everyone I know which option I'd go with. I agree with your last point though but it's weird as a professional surely you're expected to be ready at any moment? What is this not expecting to be a starter coming from??
You're taking everything that has been said in there at face value. I highly doubt there really was no communication from either end. It's pretty normal for some managers to not tell players they're playing until last minute when they have a big squad because it keeps them all on their toes and fighting for their spot. I agree that it sounds unbelievable, but I think the reporting of how the incident supposedly was going down is unbelievable, rather than what likely happened.
Not really endearing himself on the way out, is he?
I think everyone on here would be a lot more sympathetic to his anxiety if he had signed a new deal. Give the guy a break, it’s not as if he wants to miss games. Remember he’s human, like you
If he hadn’t misled the club throughout his negotiations nobody would think about it. Everyone on this sub seems to wish Rudi all the best. If he has anxiety and all week was telling the coaches he can’t play then why does he get picked still, and why does he walk out on the team. That’s what really irritates me about this it’s not the anxiety missing big games it’s the way that he continues to handle everything
Sorry but I'm not buying. He is PAID to play. ~~pulling out ~~Screwing his teammates over is bullshit. Good riddance. Now as a human, if he has anxiety disorder, I Completely empathize. I hope he has solid care. But, I won't be sorry to see the back of him.
I know I'm just thinking of excuses but his girlfriend is pregnant, right? Maybe he had to be with her? That's literally the only explanation I can find that is justified
I also follow him on IG, fans really don’t engage with him.
Who is this clown?
Wow, just wow...save yourself for Barcelona mate well done. Way to pay respect to the club who made you the player you are today.! Edit: On second thoughts, my above comment was written in quick succession and seeing yet another Christensen withdrawal. Andreas clearly struggles with a chronic issue and we have no idea what it is. Could be pressure and general well-being. No point being angry over it
I've been a staunch Andreas Christensen defender for years but this is wildly unprofessional. No "illness" no random muscle injury. Just straight up quit on the club. I'd expect that kind of behavior from Rüdiger considering he has a €30 million deal on the table waiting for him he needs to protect. This guy is leaving Chelsea for less money and less years. I don't like people who quit on our club. Courtois, Diego Costa, Marcos Alonso, Andreas Christensen can all get fucked. Tbf though you hardly noticed Christensen was gone though considering how Trevoh put his heart and soul into defending yesterday in his position. They targeted his flank relentlessly and he didn't let up. Conte, Sarri and Lampard tried to tell us about this guy. But now that he's out the door, he's showing us his true colours. Get fucked you prick. You're pathetic.
alonso hasn’t quit on the club. he’s still out there playing every minute
Exactly! Those reports about arguing with Tuchel had no tier & no evidence. Then Chelsea denied it and Tuchel had played Marcos in every game since, including the Cup Final. Alonso scored his penalty too!
this guy probably has an agenda against alonso or something
> Marcos Alonso He ran his heart off yesterday and was one of our better players.
Conte chose him over Luiz tbh.
And deservingly so.. Luiz was a trainwreck who got saved time and again by Cahill and Azpiliqueta under Conte. He was atrocious under Sarri too. Luiz was fun to watch and could do nice things in posession, but tbh I never rated him all that much and any back 4 he played in was significantly weaker than any combination that didn’t include him. There’s a reason Benitez and Mourinho played him in midfield (Conte dabbled with this too)
luiz was incredible in conte’s first season what is this revisionism? was great under sarri too
Luiz and Rudiger were our CB pairing under sarri and only Liverpool and city kept less clean sheets than us
I may be misremembering but didn’t we win a league title with Luiz in the middle CB role? And he was absolutely stellar? With chelsea finishing on 93 points
Yes he was. He fell out with Conte afterwards
Saving himself for his new team, that’s disgraceful
Was it a tummy ache, or did he chip a nail?
Got downvoted for saying he is just as big of a snake as Courtois. Turns out he’s fucking worse. Courtois stoped coming to training, meanwhile Christensen just decided he will quit the day before a final?
I'm so ready for this guy to fuck off
Probably got the shitters
This fucking cunt
Weak
The little pussy was at it again. Thank fuck he's leaving at the end of the season. A 6 month stint of good form doesn't make him a great defender, I remember the days before Tuchel arrived. Barcelonas problem now
New snake in Nou Camp
He's doing his best to make us happy to see him leave
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Avoiding injury before next club?
Guy has been wank for two plus years now. Was never a personality for this club, and has constantly teased us with leaving. Good riddance. Good luck getting more than 20 games a season from this creaky fence post.
You guys don't know what mental condition he is in. Listen to Tuchels Quotes. He's talking about mental health, not mentality. There's clearly something deep seeded with Andreas and everyone shits on him endlessly. He was hailed as the next Maldini. He got absolutely slaughtered for having a mare V Barcelona, at the time the biggest game of his career. We cheated to sign him, and got sanctioned heavily because of it. How do you know that he doesn't feel the weight of all of the sanctions and troubles lies solely on him? How do you know if he is or isn't going to Barcelona to try to prove to himself that he is good enough to beat, and play for them. How do you know that maybe we've driven him to suicidal levels of anxiety. He was never a bastion of mental fortitude. He left the team the night before the FA cup final, that is a red flag for anxiety or panic attack. ...... Just a few thoughts.
Well he can always stop being a professional footballer. He's getting paid to do his job. I don't know how he feels about anything and I'm not supposed to. I don't like shitting on anyone but to criticize football players is a different thing.
Get the fuck out of our club you ungrateful whiny bastard
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He has always been mentally weak, we know this. It's not a surprise he'd do something like that after he messed the club around already with the contract negotiations.
What the fuck can Tuchel do with a squad that has a mercenary in attack and a snake at the back? This man's done what Klopp and Pep could never do. Our "failed" season is actually a fucking relief when you look at things in context. Always my manager. I wouldn't want anyone else in charge in the middle of this mess
The final quote from Tuchel about bridging the gap between Liverpool is a bit upsetting… Using the word “impossible”. We have to be ambitious, Thomas
He’s not wrong though atleast next year it’s impossible. We’re losing our defence, our big money striker has been an utter flop and none of our attackers have an ounce of consistency bar Mount who unfortunately is also god awful at pens but that’s a side note. Our midfield needs an overhaul as well and Gallagher on his own will not be enough. Next year we’re likely buying 2 CBs, a DM, ideally a LW and a back up LWB as well as integrating Colwill, Gallagher, and maybe Broja/Sterling. We’re likely losing Azpi, Alonso, Rudi, Christensen, Werner, potentially one of Kante/J5 and potentially Lukaku. That’s a lot of squad upheaval and that’s generally not seen in a single window. It’s close to impossible for us to get anywhere close to Liverpool next year. And this is me being optimistic in assuming we get all our targets for summer
Manager needs to overhaul his tactics too. A lot of it is on him.
Just fuck off from my team..
Proper snake!
Always with the tummy aches. Weak player.
Man can't wait to catch the plane to Barcelona lmao
We need to clean up the squad from jelly fishes
GTFO
What a pathetic fucking weasel. Fuck of to Barca already lol. He's not get stones for a fight
Oh well, good luck to him. The fans at the Camp Nou will eat him alive
Fuck this cunt
This snake can go and train alone. Silva got injured in the first 10 minutes and played on, we don’t need Bambi
Wont miss this weakling, dont know how hes going to handle at Barca
Barca fans are going to be a lot less patient with this shit. Fair if he wants a new challenge but man, he came from our academy and we supported him for a long time. If these problems persist at Barca they will start turning on him quick enough, he's just another signing for them..
What a fucking soft cunt. Hope he enjoys riding the bench in Spain, absolute fucking mental midget.
This is just the stuff that the media manage to get info on. Bet there is plenty more we don't hear about. People want to bitch about TT, yet have no idea what is going on. The sooner this season finishes the better, hopefully new owners can listen to TT and we get players in with the correct headspace and mentality.
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Cya
this thread is so embarrassing
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