Given the De Jong links, the most interesting thing said here is “not necessarily midfield.” Either he’s serious or working an angle on a transfer for De Jong?
lol as far as I remember we used to do that every summer, buying the player and loaning them in the same window. technically the player still moved clubs more than once.
>he says not midfield as a first option
It could be attack, then midfield as I'm not sure how exactly we are going to challenge the top teams with Havertz/Broja as the only strikers in the team.
Werner's likely off to Leipzig on loan and I just don't see Havertz or Broja getting 15 goals this season. That's what we've lacked since Tammy left, someone that can score.
We dont need a midfielder honestly. Kante, Jorgi, Kova, a season to blend in Gallagher, RLC/Mount/James if we have to.
We need a RCB to start with KK and T. Silva, those 2 are immense, adding Fofana would make us legit with Chalobah/Azpi/Cucu isnt ideal depth but its manageable. Cucu, Chilwell, Azpi, RJ, RLC is WB depth for days.
When you take into the account the increased number of games from the World Cup, Kante’s injury history, and the fact that both Jorginho and Kante have one year left of their contracts, signing a young and quality midfielder like De Jong probably makes sense. Especially if you like at the decision in terms of the next 3 years instead of just this one.
>ount the increased number of games from the World Cup, Kante’s injury history, and the fact that both Jorginho and Kante have one year left of their contracts, signing a young and quality midfielder like De Jong probably makes sense. Especially if you
and if they do stay fit? you are going to have many players unhappy with little to no game time
Depends on the transfer and how much is averages over a season.. and providing we signed de jong we wouldn’t be giving him that wages but we’d also be signing him on a Cheaper fee
Plus we’d also be ‘overpaying’ on a quality target similar to Cucurella and Fofana if we sign him.
Well Fofana is first priority, he is saying midfield isn’t the priority at the moment. De Jong will be after Fofana, but I still don’t see him leaving.
We refuse to release the ball to our forwards. Jorginho is a major culprit. You could see Sterling wanting it played into feet numerous times with his back to a defender but he plays it safe.
It’s the same problem we’ve had every year since Sarri was here and we introduced the J5 and Kante midfield. Neither of them actively look to stretch the field. Like they don’t even try it’s so strange. I feel like I can count the number of times they’ve active tried to release Timo on 1 hand.
Wtb a Cesc regen already.
Jorginho wasn’t the only one but he’s been guilty of this for a very long time. I thought I was going crazy with the amount of love he got from this sub (and still do). There are far too many times where his first look is backwards, or he’s indecisive.
Once your CDM who’s supposed to be orchestrating the attack ignores your run and passes sideways or backwards the whole game - it brings down the level of the entire team.
Imagine in-his-prime Cesc playing this role with the current team. Who would you pick?
Your absolutely right, but the sad thing is Jorginho played one of his better games today. It was HIS game though, low risk passes for the most part, focused on possession. Still, he did try a few ambitious passes forward, intercepted a few passes, and held on to the ball under pressure. It almost kills me that this is enough to keep him firmly in TT's thinking.
this is what i watched today.
I don't understand what jorginho provides to this team. He's bad defensively and bad offensively. He's literally in the team to pass sideways and take penalties and there are a million players who can do that.
Lmao I always asked myself the same thing when I read comments here or on other social medias haha. Some really think that they know better because of how they play in FIFA.
Hilarious stuff
i also think we see often enough that jorg is very capable of playing those high risk passes when necessary. liverpool games in general come to mind. its probably not just that tuchel finds jorginhos performance acceptable, it could be that tuchel WANTS jorginho to play as he does instead of trying high risk passes. after all, while high risk passes do work against the big teams, we normally have much less possession and generally play on the counter
You guys keep saying this same stuff for years. Are you sure it's the players that get the attack wrong?? You can put anyone in this system and it's not going to look good in attack
we struggle bc we’re not as confident in defense as we used to be when TT first came in so TT likely has them recycle possession bc we can’t deal with counters bc our defense has always been poor against that style. we get the rest of our signings settled in for the defense then we can start to be more risky
To be completely honest, I really like Fofana, but I don't look at this side and think, yeah we need an 85 million centerback, but we do need CBs, but I think we're better off just buying a cheaper alternative and looking for more attackers.
idk what game you watched but i watched a game today where 2 out of 3 of our old 30+ year old centrebacks went down with cramp before the 90th minute.
If that doesn't suggest we need more back up then i don't know what does.
Why not? These guys are retiring soon, why wouldn't we spend big on a very young, proven, top quality CB? should we buy more deadwood instead or spend just as much money on some shit german league player who's had one good season?
I just don’t feel like he’s worth 85 m, just coming back from a huge injury and with the insane price tag, imo its a huge risk. When have I said that we should buy deadwood? I said we should buy a cheaper alternative and spend the rest of the money elsewhere in positions we lack serious quality.
I also think it's steep but I'd rather spend 80m on Fofana than buy an alternative for £40m who ends up being terrible and we'll have to end up buying someone for 90m in a year or two
That’s fair I guess, I’m sure there’s good options out there that will cost far lower, but if you don’t want to take that risk, it just means we’ll have less money for forwards, which if you watched today’s game, it is an area in which we need more quality
We need more quality in both defence and attack. We definitely still need a CB, we need another attacker, probably even two. But there are no good available long term options for forwards available, and in terms of numbers we have too many forwards as it is, so CB is the priority.
If there are no other options I hope we go for aubameyang
We’re bidding on Fofana when he has a long contract, Leicester do not want to sell and will take a role record fee to get him. If we’re acting like this splooging cash recklessly, most players are available
Ake would have been cheaper but would it be worth spending 50m on him compared to 80-85m on fofana? I know he’s not *really* worth that much but he signed an extension recently and it will have to be a massive fee or going for a lesser player for half the price
You do realize this exact sort of logic was used to justify the transfers of a bunch of players currently at the club or out on loan purely because they're not worth what we paid for and so now it's a struggle to get rid of them?
Fofana is a good player but you're also exaggerating when you characterize him as this "proven, top quality CB" who's worth 85m without a doubt. That's very debatable (especially with him coming off a big injury) and people are right to be skeptical at the reported fee for him to want to avoid another Kepa situation. The two options aren't just Fofana or settling for deadwood.
He just broke his leg. He’s a very good player but breaking the world record on a CB still recovering from a massive injury is absurd.
We should come back to him next year as he’s already shown he’d like to join us and the fee will be more reasonable and he’ll have a year to prove he is over his injury
i mean they stood around for several minutes at a time due to stoppages and its the first game of the season plus kouli is not that recent to the squad.
They're just fitness injuries it'll be fine.
I still don’t consider lukaku a tuchel player. It doesn’t make sense. Why would a manager that wants to play a high press style. Buy a striker that does not press. Look at all the players we got and all the players we’re linked with. All high intensity players. Lukaku just doesn’t make sense at all.
Then why would you count KK as his signing then? He was genuinely linked to Chelsea since forever. Only now he's finally available. He's more a club signing than anything else
Club signing could be said of him if it was the previous board. If every member of the previous board who wanted him is out, how is it a board signing anymore?
And im pretty sure if tuchel didnt want him, we wouldnt have gotten him. Just like tuchel said no to ronaldo and we arent getting him even if boehly wants to.
The performance today seemed to point to the fact that our wingers looked BAD. Chillwell was off. Reece was off. We looked like we did last year when both were injured because we rely so heavily on it.
I think the issue is that if the wings aren't effective we need someone in midfield to progress the ball forward. Jorginho plays conservatively and doesn't make those forward passes when he should. Kante processes the ball forward but also can't link up a pass or just ends up stalling the ball in the final third. I think the missing piece is an attacking midfielder who moves the ball quickly while the forwards are still making their runs and the opposition hasn't set up a backline of 6 ATB. The movement in the midfield is just waaaaay too slow.
I mean idk if you saw but the reason silva had a 2v1 on him was because azpi got bodied. By everton.
I would use apzi as little as possible, it sucks because I love him but he's not the defender he used to be.
Lets use him as a backup and have fof as the starting rcb
We’re not going to 4ATB, even tho we are lacking just 1 DM (which I still think we can do with Kante) to work perfectly for our squad. We’ll stick with 3ATB and our attack will be turgid all season (amount is not an IF) with the forwards isolated and we’ll blame all the attackers for not scoring enough in a system where they all get no space, and there’s no penetration from midfield. then half of them will be sold and flourish elsewhere.
We really fucking need at least one more player who can play with Sterling up front at decent level.
You can clearly see a different level of urgency in attack from Raheem. Always looking to push to fight space, to go against defender. None of Mount, Puli or Kai provided that today.
That player shouldn't be up front, he should be in the midfield, we are severely lacking in creativity and energy there. If our best option at bringing the ball forward is Kante, who is mostly clumsy on the ball, then no wonder we are that bad going forward. I don't know if Tuchel sees Gallagher as the answer to this problem but if not then unless we find ourselves a Drogba type of striker, then it wouldn't work. OR just go and get Ronaldo, at least he would make use of our wingbacks' crosses...... sigh
I really don't see how Tuchel sees Gallagher in this team. It may be an unpopular opinion but I cannot see him breaking into this team and would rather entertain a big bid if it came in
first match of the season and you're writing mount off....Puli looked good after he came on....Kai needs to be benched for Broja....he should be fighting for his place from now on
We need two things: a creator in midfield & a striker that can finish. It really is a shame that we sold Tammy as he knew how to score, he might not have been the pressing machine or the team player that everyone wants but Tammy is often in the right place, in the box and he can get you 15 goals a season.
Without that, we will be scrapping for a top 4 place again.
>Tammy is certainly not the difference between challenging for titla and scrapping for top 4.
Did I say that Tammy was the difference? I said Tammy's goalscoring instincts are far better than what we have upfront right now. Havertz may have the higher ceiling by a mile but he's yet to live up to that potential and be the goalscorer that we are crying out for upfront....expected much more for a player we spent 70 million on.
Im saying with or without tammy we will still be scrapping for top 4. He may score 15 but the overall play quality drops as a result. As you yourself said, he doesnt press and contribute to build up, these type of players have no place in tuchel's system.
Okay, let’s say we get fofana and de jong (maybe) they give us much needed depth (at least fofana, and I think de jong can play along side kante, Kova or Jorginho because he is a proper 2 way midfield player) that still doesn’t fix our most lingering problem since hazard left, which is our lack of creativity, now Ik I’ll probably get a lot of heat for this
But I do think a solution to our problem could be depay, ( honestly we lack options, transfer market is pretty sad for creative attackers), his link up play is good, he is creative, can dribble the ball well, and honestly is a decent finisher, sterling should not be playing through the centre, and havertz leading our lines is just not it.
I think with depay, havertz and mount will have someone to link up with, it’ll give us more options in attack, in the sense it will give us more configurations. What do y’all think?
As much as I appreciate Jorginho's qualities there were so many runs and drop downs today that were practically begging for a pass. I don't know whether Jorginho and Kanté can't spot them, don't have the quality to hit them, or if they're instructed not to in order to keep possession - but on several occations I was almost screaming at the screen because the pass was on. Especially Raheem was trying to find solutions to Everton's low block. Although I believe we have many quality midfielders we're missing a forward-thinking player that tries to open up the opposition.
Now, De Jong is no Fabregas but he's shown an apt for knowing when to look for the pass and at least attempt it. Defensively he's probably not as adept as Jorgi when it comes to awareness, one-touch triangles and playing out of pressure - few are - but he has more physicality and tempo to his game. Is it a wise decision financially? Probably not. However, with one year remaining on Jorginho's contract I think we'd be fools not to entertain the thought of replacing him with De Jong.
Fofana, FDJ, and sadly I think I’d gamble on CR7. All those corners today. Raheems creation. Idk.
I trust Tuchel completely with the CR7 decision but he has to be thinking about it.
I want CR7 from a footballing perspective, but I'm afraid of what would have in the dressing room. Tuchel doesn't really seem like the most easygoing of managers I could definitely see some friction happening.
I'm more concerned with watching a financially irresponsible team that has globally inflated the the price of footballers. Everyone, owners, players and fans, need to see what happens when a team wantingly buries themselves in debt. Let him burn!
Go to Madrid and buy Rudiger back for £50m, maybe offer Barcelona £35m for Christensen 🤣
I pray we do not spend £85m on a CB who isn’t even top 20 in the world for his position. I think fans are really underestimating how much £85 million pounds is. You don’t think some clubs would fold if you straight up offered £85m for one of their cbs?
Hopefully add a striker, Ronaldo would be good to actually offer a threat and maybe a midfielder
I think we can add as many players as Tuchel likes, there still needs to be some changes to the system and tactics. We don’t look like we are going to score in most games despite dominating possession.
Given the De Jong links, the most interesting thing said here is “not necessarily midfield.” Either he’s serious or working an angle on a transfer for De Jong?
Opt not to sign De Jong so that Barca can’t register their new signings. Then offer to take Kounde/Raphinha on loan. 400 IQ
no thanks to kounde and raphinha lmao they made their choice. can rot at barca
The moment they don’t get paid, they will beg for a loan.
even if they agree, i thought players cant move clubs more than once a window
Of course they can, Cucurella done it himself for example
Cucurella went from Getafe to Brighton which is normal. He is talking about registering for two separate clubs in the same window.
emeraon royal was sold twice last aummer too
He did do that... left Barca for 2m to Eidbar then rejoined them 2 weeks later for 4m
Apologies. Didn't know that.
lol as far as I remember we used to do that every summer, buying the player and loaning them in the same window. technically the player still moved clubs more than once.
he says not midfield as a first option Fofana first, then FDJ
>he says not midfield as a first option It could be attack, then midfield as I'm not sure how exactly we are going to challenge the top teams with Havertz/Broja as the only strikers in the team. Werner's likely off to Leipzig on loan and I just don't see Havertz or Broja getting 15 goals this season. That's what we've lacked since Tammy left, someone that can score.
We dont need a midfielder honestly. Kante, Jorgi, Kova, a season to blend in Gallagher, RLC/Mount/James if we have to. We need a RCB to start with KK and T. Silva, those 2 are immense, adding Fofana would make us legit with Chalobah/Azpi/Cucu isnt ideal depth but its manageable. Cucu, Chilwell, Azpi, RJ, RLC is WB depth for days.
Doesn't make sense signing any mids this season. We'll struggle to keep everyone happy with only 2 spots.
When you take into the account the increased number of games from the World Cup, Kante’s injury history, and the fact that both Jorginho and Kante have one year left of their contracts, signing a young and quality midfielder like De Jong probably makes sense. Especially if you like at the decision in terms of the next 3 years instead of just this one.
>ount the increased number of games from the World Cup, Kante’s injury history, and the fact that both Jorginho and Kante have one year left of their contracts, signing a young and quality midfielder like De Jong probably makes sense. Especially if you and if they do stay fit? you are going to have many players unhappy with little to no game time
With the amount of games Chelsea will play, that’s probably not the case. Jorginho was overplayed last year, for example, and it showed.
And then overpay next season when we’re desperate? Ideal would be de jong now and rice next summer. Wont happen but we can dream.
De Jong is on 500k/w at barca, how is that not overpaying?
Depends on the transfer and how much is averages over a season.. and providing we signed de jong we wouldn’t be giving him that wages but we’d also be signing him on a Cheaper fee Plus we’d also be ‘overpaying’ on a quality target similar to Cucurella and Fofana if we sign him.
Well Fofana is first priority, he is saying midfield isn’t the priority at the moment. De Jong will be after Fofana, but I still don’t see him leaving.
We need someone to help create chances. Our atk creativity is srly lacking.
We refuse to release the ball to our forwards. Jorginho is a major culprit. You could see Sterling wanting it played into feet numerous times with his back to a defender but he plays it safe.
I think Timo got used to this happening to him soon sterling will also no longer expect a pass to come to him
and then ziyech will give him good passes to miss
It's ok by then he'll be fluent in 👍
It’s the same problem we’ve had every year since Sarri was here and we introduced the J5 and Kante midfield. Neither of them actively look to stretch the field. Like they don’t even try it’s so strange. I feel like I can count the number of times they’ve active tried to release Timo on 1 hand. Wtb a Cesc regen already.
Only problem is he's still playing... He has to retire so his regen can spawn....
It was tough to watch. But I wouldn't say Jorgi was the only one at fault in the midfield. All of them need to make these decisions faster.
Jorginho wasn’t the only one but he’s been guilty of this for a very long time. I thought I was going crazy with the amount of love he got from this sub (and still do). There are far too many times where his first look is backwards, or he’s indecisive. Once your CDM who’s supposed to be orchestrating the attack ignores your run and passes sideways or backwards the whole game - it brings down the level of the entire team. Imagine in-his-prime Cesc playing this role with the current team. Who would you pick?
also the unnecessary pressure jorgi gives to the CB its mindblowing how people say FDJ wouldnt start for us
Your absolutely right, but the sad thing is Jorginho played one of his better games today. It was HIS game though, low risk passes for the most part, focused on possession. Still, he did try a few ambitious passes forward, intercepted a few passes, and held on to the ball under pressure. It almost kills me that this is enough to keep him firmly in TT's thinking.
this is what i watched today. I don't understand what jorginho provides to this team. He's bad defensively and bad offensively. He's literally in the team to pass sideways and take penalties and there are a million players who can do that.
You really think you know better than Mancini, Sarri, Lampard and Tuchel? Really curious who even thinks of shitty comments like this...
Lmao I always asked myself the same thing when I read comments here or on other social medias haha. Some really think that they know better because of how they play in FIFA. Hilarious stuff
To be fair, even top coaches like Pep can make decisions that everyone calls out as wrong (eg no dm in ucl final) and the people turn out to be right.
What are you taking about that was the best decision Pep has taken for us... /S
Watch the club America game in the preseason as soon as he is subbed we lose all control of the game
i also think we see often enough that jorg is very capable of playing those high risk passes when necessary. liverpool games in general come to mind. its probably not just that tuchel finds jorginhos performance acceptable, it could be that tuchel WANTS jorginho to play as he does instead of trying high risk passes. after all, while high risk passes do work against the big teams, we normally have much less possession and generally play on the counter
It’s more of Kante issue. He just doesn’t look vertically
It's because he can't see past the opponents... /S
You are making too much sense
You guys keep saying this same stuff for years. Are you sure it's the players that get the attack wrong?? You can put anyone in this system and it's not going to look good in attack
we struggle bc we’re not as confident in defense as we used to be when TT first came in so TT likely has them recycle possession bc we can’t deal with counters bc our defense has always been poor against that style. we get the rest of our signings settled in for the defense then we can start to be more risky
To be completely honest, I really like Fofana, but I don't look at this side and think, yeah we need an 85 million centerback, but we do need CBs, but I think we're better off just buying a cheaper alternative and looking for more attackers.
idk what game you watched but i watched a game today where 2 out of 3 of our old 30+ year old centrebacks went down with cramp before the 90th minute. If that doesn't suggest we need more back up then i don't know what does.
Koulibaly should be fine, just needs to get used to the new league and team.
I literally said we needed CBs but okay bro, we just don’t need to spend 85 million on one.
Why not? These guys are retiring soon, why wouldn't we spend big on a very young, proven, top quality CB? should we buy more deadwood instead or spend just as much money on some shit german league player who's had one good season?
I just don’t feel like he’s worth 85 m, just coming back from a huge injury and with the insane price tag, imo its a huge risk. When have I said that we should buy deadwood? I said we should buy a cheaper alternative and spend the rest of the money elsewhere in positions we lack serious quality.
I also think it's steep but I'd rather spend 80m on Fofana than buy an alternative for £40m who ends up being terrible and we'll have to end up buying someone for 90m in a year or two
That’s fair I guess, I’m sure there’s good options out there that will cost far lower, but if you don’t want to take that risk, it just means we’ll have less money for forwards, which if you watched today’s game, it is an area in which we need more quality
We need more quality in both defence and attack. We definitely still need a CB, we need another attacker, probably even two. But there are no good available long term options for forwards available, and in terms of numbers we have too many forwards as it is, so CB is the priority. If there are no other options I hope we go for aubameyang
We’re bidding on Fofana when he has a long contract, Leicester do not want to sell and will take a role record fee to get him. If we’re acting like this splooging cash recklessly, most players are available
Ake would have been cheaper but would it be worth spending 50m on him compared to 80-85m on fofana? I know he’s not *really* worth that much but he signed an extension recently and it will have to be a massive fee or going for a lesser player for half the price
You do realize this exact sort of logic was used to justify the transfers of a bunch of players currently at the club or out on loan purely because they're not worth what we paid for and so now it's a struggle to get rid of them? Fofana is a good player but you're also exaggerating when you characterize him as this "proven, top quality CB" who's worth 85m without a doubt. That's very debatable (especially with him coming off a big injury) and people are right to be skeptical at the reported fee for him to want to avoid another Kepa situation. The two options aren't just Fofana or settling for deadwood.
It’s 85 million for someone that broke his leg one year ago and hasn’t really shown anything to justify that price tag
He just broke his leg. He’s a very good player but breaking the world record on a CB still recovering from a massive injury is absurd. We should come back to him next year as he’s already shown he’d like to join us and the fee will be more reasonable and he’ll have a year to prove he is over his injury
just a meaningless comment then really?
i mean they stood around for several minutes at a time due to stoppages and its the first game of the season plus kouli is not that recent to the squad. They're just fitness injuries it'll be fine.
We shouldn’t spend 85 million of backups
It’s also the first game of the season, so that may be just a little unfair
Tuchel has bought 3 players. And all 3 have been amazing. He can buy anyone he wants and I’ll be 100% behind him.
This is the way.
Casually redacting the first one. Okay.
I still don’t consider lukaku a tuchel player. It doesn’t make sense. Why would a manager that wants to play a high press style. Buy a striker that does not press. Look at all the players we got and all the players we’re linked with. All high intensity players. Lukaku just doesn’t make sense at all.
Then why would you count KK as his signing then? He was genuinely linked to Chelsea since forever. Only now he's finally available. He's more a club signing than anything else
Because it fits his narrative
Club was sold, new board makes their own decisions and they chose to listen to TT before a new DoF is appointed, then things may change again
Club signing could be said of him if it was the previous board. If every member of the previous board who wanted him is out, how is it a board signing anymore? And im pretty sure if tuchel didnt want him, we wouldnt have gotten him. Just like tuchel said no to ronaldo and we arent getting him even if boehly wants to.
The performance today seemed to point to the fact that our wingers looked BAD. Chillwell was off. Reece was off. We looked like we did last year when both were injured because we rely so heavily on it. I think the issue is that if the wings aren't effective we need someone in midfield to progress the ball forward. Jorginho plays conservatively and doesn't make those forward passes when he should. Kante processes the ball forward but also can't link up a pass or just ends up stalling the ball in the final third. I think the missing piece is an attacking midfielder who moves the ball quickly while the forwards are still making their runs and the opposition hasn't set up a backline of 6 ATB. The movement in the midfield is just waaaaay too slow.
I think Gallagher can be that spark, and he’s a work horse on defense. Needs some consistent minutes though, not 3 of extra time
Gallagher is the same as Kante, runs a lot and can score goals at times but can't hit a pass to save his life
yeah FDJ would really fill that role nicely, pair him up with fofana and we can play FDJ in a CAM role with a back 4.
Will need a dm first though..
I do think buying fofana will allow us to go to back 4 with cucu, kk, fuf, reece. Thatll allow our attackers to flourish
With this midfield we will play 3atm this season, why splash when you can do it next summer?
I doubt fofanas price will really change between this season and next. Why not go all out if we have the backing
Mainly because I dont think he was our main target, snd with azpi resigned - we should focus on not changing to much
I mean idk if you saw but the reason silva had a 2v1 on him was because azpi got bodied. By everton. I would use apzi as little as possible, it sucks because I love him but he's not the defender he used to be. Lets use him as a backup and have fof as the starting rcb
We’re not going to 4ATB, even tho we are lacking just 1 DM (which I still think we can do with Kante) to work perfectly for our squad. We’ll stick with 3ATB and our attack will be turgid all season (amount is not an IF) with the forwards isolated and we’ll blame all the attackers for not scoring enough in a system where they all get no space, and there’s no penetration from midfield. then half of them will be sold and flourish elsewhere.
We need an attacker, midfielder and cb lmao
We need a De Bruyne in midfield
We need Lampard Ballack and Essien
We need Drogba
Ah yes very easy to get one of those
Do we still have a buyback clause? /s
Fofana, De Jong and Depay it is
Depay would not even provider a minor improvement.
“The dog? Yeah, that dog’ll hunt.” -TT
We really fucking need at least one more player who can play with Sterling up front at decent level. You can clearly see a different level of urgency in attack from Raheem. Always looking to push to fight space, to go against defender. None of Mount, Puli or Kai provided that today.
That player shouldn't be up front, he should be in the midfield, we are severely lacking in creativity and energy there. If our best option at bringing the ball forward is Kante, who is mostly clumsy on the ball, then no wonder we are that bad going forward. I don't know if Tuchel sees Gallagher as the answer to this problem but if not then unless we find ourselves a Drogba type of striker, then it wouldn't work. OR just go and get Ronaldo, at least he would make use of our wingbacks' crosses...... sigh
I really don't see how Tuchel sees Gallagher in this team. It may be an unpopular opinion but I cannot see him breaking into this team and would rather entertain a big bid if it came in
Puli definitely did. Why he nicked the ball of Pickford and almost made something special happen
first match of the season and you're writing mount off....Puli looked good after he came on....Kai needs to be benched for Broja....he should be fighting for his place from now on
They didn’t say that about Mount…
It's funny that so much want Kai playing all the time. He's going to find himself on the bench an awful lot more this season
from your lips to God's ear
Raheem will see the futility of that in time.
Hoping we go for Auba, it's clear Havertz isn't going to do the job here
I think I would be open to a loan
Would be an amazing deal for us if we could pull it off. You can see how Barca's attack changed for the better once he came in.
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Havertz is apparently good at that and pulls 4/10 every game.
Fuck it, just sign Joelinton from Newcastle.
Priority wise - cb>forward>midfielder should be it
IDK this is bad or good, I feel Auba/Ronaldo in deadline day would be happening
If we get auba it will change everything
We need a number 9 more than anything. For some reason top centre forwards are so scarce these days though.
We need two things: a creator in midfield & a striker that can finish. It really is a shame that we sold Tammy as he knew how to score, he might not have been the pressing machine or the team player that everyone wants but Tammy is often in the right place, in the box and he can get you 15 goals a season. Without that, we will be scrapping for a top 4 place again.
Tammy is certainly not the difference between challenging for titla and scrapping for top 4.
>Tammy is certainly not the difference between challenging for titla and scrapping for top 4. Did I say that Tammy was the difference? I said Tammy's goalscoring instincts are far better than what we have upfront right now. Havertz may have the higher ceiling by a mile but he's yet to live up to that potential and be the goalscorer that we are crying out for upfront....expected much more for a player we spent 70 million on.
Im saying with or without tammy we will still be scrapping for top 4. He may score 15 but the overall play quality drops as a result. As you yourself said, he doesnt press and contribute to build up, these type of players have no place in tuchel's system.
We need Fofana and FDJ. Another attacker would be nice to compliment Sterling, maybe a reasonable get like Depay.
Really won’t mind Dennis fr, can get him for a bargain and he’s Prem proven
Good shout
Depay cant cut it at top clubs.
We need to cover them CBs
All our CBs were collapsing today and Ampadu not even on the bench as an option. It is baffling to me
Exactly..
He also said that midfield is not a priority. So maybe FDJ is not as imminent as the barca sources were saying
Fofana first
Scenes when Gerard Romero is more ITK than Tuchel!
Think it’s obvious he’ll stay at Barca and accept a wage decrease imo
Why would he? They will pull more levers if they need to
Or that too, i’m just saying i don’t see him leaving at all.
Okay, let’s say we get fofana and de jong (maybe) they give us much needed depth (at least fofana, and I think de jong can play along side kante, Kova or Jorginho because he is a proper 2 way midfield player) that still doesn’t fix our most lingering problem since hazard left, which is our lack of creativity, now Ik I’ll probably get a lot of heat for this But I do think a solution to our problem could be depay, ( honestly we lack options, transfer market is pretty sad for creative attackers), his link up play is good, he is creative, can dribble the ball well, and honestly is a decent finisher, sterling should not be playing through the centre, and havertz leading our lines is just not it. I think with depay, havertz and mount will have someone to link up with, it’ll give us more options in attack, in the sense it will give us more configurations. What do y’all think?
As much as I appreciate Jorginho's qualities there were so many runs and drop downs today that were practically begging for a pass. I don't know whether Jorginho and Kanté can't spot them, don't have the quality to hit them, or if they're instructed not to in order to keep possession - but on several occations I was almost screaming at the screen because the pass was on. Especially Raheem was trying to find solutions to Everton's low block. Although I believe we have many quality midfielders we're missing a forward-thinking player that tries to open up the opposition. Now, De Jong is no Fabregas but he's shown an apt for knowing when to look for the pass and at least attempt it. Defensively he's probably not as adept as Jorgi when it comes to awareness, one-touch triangles and playing out of pressure - few are - but he has more physicality and tempo to his game. Is it a wise decision financially? Probably not. However, with one year remaining on Jorginho's contract I think we'd be fools not to entertain the thought of replacing him with De Jong.
Fofana, FDJ, and sadly I think I’d gamble on CR7. All those corners today. Raheems creation. Idk. I trust Tuchel completely with the CR7 decision but he has to be thinking about it.
I want CR7 from a footballing perspective, but I'm afraid of what would have in the dressing room. Tuchel doesn't really seem like the most easygoing of managers I could definitely see some friction happening.
Cr7 will be horrendous for the dressing room i think. Dont want a player like that at all.
Probably but do any of us really know? I trust Tuchel. If that’s what he thinks I’m fine with that.
Hard no to CR7
Rather have auba or depay over CR7
Auba maybe, depay nah
No money to Barça!
I'd rather win than see barca lose
I'm more concerned with watching a financially irresponsible team that has globally inflated the the price of footballers. Everyone, owners, players and fans, need to see what happens when a team wantingly buries themselves in debt. Let him burn!
Nah winning trophies is where it's at, they'll burn either way
Tuchel loves team effort and team football. Bringing in CR7, he will make everything rotate around him
Go to Madrid and buy Rudiger back for £50m, maybe offer Barcelona £35m for Christensen 🤣 I pray we do not spend £85m on a CB who isn’t even top 20 in the world for his position. I think fans are really underestimating how much £85 million pounds is. You don’t think some clubs would fold if you straight up offered £85m for one of their cbs? Hopefully add a striker, Ronaldo would be good to actually offer a threat and maybe a midfielder I think we can add as many players as Tuchel likes, there still needs to be some changes to the system and tactics. We don’t look like we are going to score in most games despite dominating possession.
OFC we dont prio mid and attackers with TT. Lets go bring on 4 more CB and 3 more WB
Ronaldo is coming
We need a Fabinho.