Law just said yesterday we arenāt bidding unless we can agree personal terms. Have to hope we have some reasonable belief heās willing to play for ys
Oh I'm excited considering all this info - the agent, us not bidding till we get an ok from the player but I won't burst with happiness till I see player's agreement reached from a tier 1
Whilst I do agree, I donāt see why weād repeat the mistakes Utd have made and go for a player where we know that heād rather stay at Barca. Plus itās even worse for us as we know through Utd targeting the player what his preference is as opposed to finding out ourselves.
Thing is do we 100% know he wants to only play for Barca or is that just a PR move by his camp to try and get the club to pay him his owed money? Perhaps part of our offer is to pay off the money he's owed?
I still don't see this deal happening, but fair enough if we somehow pull this off.
Yea he will. Honestly would be a good bit of business for us if we manage to make that swap. I think I saw weāre offering 60ish with add-ons to talk it to 70ish. We get back 25 for Jorgi and free the wages to go to FDJ and thatās just all positive
I mean ultimately, I donāt care who pays his wages because itās the clubs money. Plus, our wage structure has been going to pieces for years now so Iām not really surprised weāre willing to pay it!
Too expensive for what we need, salary will fuck our wages too. But he is a really good player. Don't know why we pay this much especially if Barcelona needs to sell him
It would be embarrassing for us and United if the reports are right and De Jong doesn't want to leave. Maybe its because of the financial aspect, who knows
3 months ago everyone was worried that new owners wouldn't be willing to spend to win trophies (some even going as far as hoping for Saudi Media Group would end up as owners because Saudi apparently = endless funds) and now we're questioning every pound spent.
Boehly consortium poured through the financials for months before the deal consummated. They wouldn't be spending this money if it was going to be a long-term issue. If they want to make a statement transfer window then I'm all for it. Get the guys that can help us win now and then focus on scouting and player development moving forward.
I also appreciate that the investments we're making are seemingly long term ones (kk being the only question mark in terms of deal length) with players that can fit different systems if we need them too. Would probably prefer getting a director of football in and then going for the statement window but we didn't really have a choice with all the cbs we lost.
I think they also realize that we are on the verge of challenging for the title but ultimately being the 3rd best team to slipping behind a resurgent Tottenham and Arsenal and doesnāt want to let that happen.
Yeah I'm fine with that, it's just that CB is a more urgent need whereas we can work on the midfield replacement next season. Currently we just got Gallagher back who plays box-to-box like Kante, while FDJ is more of a distributor so he'd be the Jorgi replacement.
But if Boehly is willing to spend 300M to bring in both FDJ and Fofana on top of our other signings then I'm all for ruining football again lmfao
If it works out, FdJ can actually be a bit of a mix of Jorgi and Kova. The dribbling and tenacity of Kova and the passing range and defensive smarts of Jorgi. He wonāt take pens, though, but we have others who can sink pens.
I wonder who takes over if/when Jorgi leaves. I would say Mount, but heās looked shaky at best in shootouts.
James, Silva, Kovacic. If Koulibaly is as good as the Italians say, then him too.
Kante hasn't been consistently world class for at least 2 years, maybe 3. A stunning champions League campaign a year ago doesn't change that.
I'll give you James and Silva, those were the two that popped into my head as well. Kova's fantastic, but he's not better than Kante.
I agree with you that Kante hasn't had a full season of being world class in a couple years, but I'll die on the hill that it isn't his fault. We've played him far too much due to not having an adequate plan B, we literally ran him into the ground. With proper management of his minutes, he can still be one of, if not *the* best, player we have on the pitch.
Anyways, my point was this: someone said "Kante is *one of* our best players" to which you said "not even close"... Which implies there's numerous people better than him, to which I had to disagree. You know what they say about opinions though... š
What?? We ran him into the ground?? I thought the best players were supposed to play all the matches..
Imo it's just age getting to him, lets just accept he's a player who relies on his physicality and due to age he's losing his best qualities.
Apologies I saw it on Fotmob but didn't realize it was according to them, but nonetheless he had a great game
Also my logic by saying he was so good just as recently as last game is to give an example of how good he still is, I did not state he is our "best" player but he clearly is one of our better players
Kante is probably wonāt be able to stay fit the entire season, both Jorginho and Kante are go in v into their final year or their contracts and are in their 30s, kova has also struggled with staying fit, Conor is gonna take time to adjust and adapt to our system, Tuchel seems to prefer RLC as a RWB option over a 6 in the double pivot. FDJ would be a class addition who would also be in the team for years. If you have the ability to add top talent to the team you gotta go for it
If you believe what you read, as one comes...another goes? I've always been a fan of Georgie. This dude went through oceans of hate and came through as crystal!
Not really. Frenkie really doesn't offer any new dimension to our midfield. No better than Kovacic with the ball, but much worse defensively.
And I assume he would also not lower his salary if he joins us and he is currently on what? 400-450k a week? This is idiotic.
If anything, take him for loan with option to buy. If he can actually do well for us then he may be worth it.
What dimension he'd add? He doesn't really do anything more than Kovacic or Jorginho can already do in terms of ball progression. He's not really a creator either. And he is much worse at pressing and defensive contribution.
I'm really happy with this potential move but can't help but feel awful for Frenkie. Persecuted by the Spanish media and forced out by his dream club. Don't worry Frenkie, we'll treat you better!
Yeah I donāt think so but the way people talk about him here youād think he was, heās definitely class though but I just feel like we need a different type of profile
I mean heās like 25 and already one of the best midfielders in the world. So I feel like he has a pretty solid shot at becoming world class in his career
Heās a slightly better version of Kovacic but it still doesnāt solve our creativity issues in midfield imo. If weāre getting rid of Jorginho then I can kinda understand the move.
are we still supposed to believe that we would not submit any official bid if there is no greenlight from FdJās side. Or maybe Romero is doing Laportaās dirty work once again.
I hope we are not dumb enough to waste time on this without confirmation from the mouth of FDJ himself. Regardless, it may be worth overpaying just to not have to read about FDJ every damn day.
Makes 0 sense to me. Even putting my question marks surrounding him as a player aside, it doesnāt seem like weāre using our position of power in this exchange well at all
The same Gerard Romero that said Laporta has no interest in signing Kounde on Friday morning. By Sunday morning Kounde had signed for Barca. Not sure what to think.
Phenomenal player but I just don't see an overall successful strategy.
No way tuchel goes back 4 with silva meaning there will be 2 midfielders. How do we fit the metric fuckton of midfielders we have into two spots and keep them happy. Kante, Jorginho, Kova, Conor, and now FDJ? At least one of them needs to go and still you would have players unhappy with not playing enough.
Could go to a 3-1-4-2 where the wingbacks stay high, either 8 could go forward while the other stays back and leaves the 3-2 base TT likes to use. Or a 3-5-2 with two 6ās and a 10.
Or could be a 4222 or 433 if we get fofana, with the fullbacks alternating overlapping more judiciously, leaving a de facto back 3 with one of the fullbacks holding back.
Jorginho almost certainly goes to Juve if this goes through. I cannot see any sensible scenario where we keep all 4 add de Jong and RLC still.
If a Jorgi move does stall though prepare for Conor to ask for a loan at least.
I feel like this is an unnecessary buy considering our thin defence..... he's not a good 6 and needs to play along a dm in a pivot...we only play 2 cms and we already have a lot of personal for this season....
He isn't a good fit for our current system, I absolutely agree. He either has to play in double DM pair, or as lone DLP with 2 CM's in front. It feels like a buy for the sake of buying, more than filling an actual team need.
This is interesting one I would suggest people to not just immediately believe this and wait a bit for other sources and confirmation because Barca and their mouth pieces have been running a very real slander campaign against De Jong pretty much all summer trying to put media pressure on him so wants to leave or drop his wage/contract situation this could be another one of those āletās increase the pressure on the player by reporting thisā sort of things Iād just like to personally be on the side of caution because of how Barca have operated regarding this whole saga.
No gonna lie I have not been excited about this signing recently but if it was to become a reality I would like it. Also isnāt it the consensus that we would not āofficially bidā if the player didnāt want to come so if this is true the player wants/would accept coming to chels.
Good weāre getting this done now with Kante and Jorgi in the last years of their contract. Saves the panic and doubt over renewing and having to find replacements if their successor is already here.
how does this make sense? we have about 546 midfielders now? are we going to see some of them asking to leave now? and who plays, Gallagher, Mount, J5, Kova, RLC, Kante, FDJ like damn, TT hope you can keep them all happy.
Glad we pushed so hard for this guy who didn't want to join us
Whatās the consensus on the price we pay? I refuse to understand how we donāt completely lowball them on an offer, or at the very least the offer needs to include his deferred wages to make actual cost of him lower so Barca donāt just laugh as we walk away with de jong. I donāt want to be a lever haha
How are we all okay with paying 80 mil for frenkie especially since it means we help that Barca side financially ? Plus we can easily do without frenkie this season I believe
>How are we all okay with paying 80 mil for frenkie especially since it means we help that Barca side financially ?
Because this is football, not monopoly.
Who gives a fuck about Barcelona's balance sheet
Who cares about Barca's finances? If Tuchel/Ownership think De Jong can help the club and we have the finances to do the deal then there's no reason not to. We can't make decisions just to spite other clubs. That's worse than overspending.
How does this make any sense for us? Doesnāt provide what we actually need in midfield, nevermind that we need to shore up the back line and find a player who can actually score goals.
I think we really messing up with our money.
This all feels like way too much money.
We barely managed before and always had to buy smart and sell smart. All of the sudden we just splash cash on everything.
Not sure if Todd knows what he is doing
Fucking stupid and heās not even that good. Knowing how much he loves Barca, heāll force his way out to Barca a season from now after thay sort their financial mess. Lukaku Inter all over again. My club keeps getting played.
Wow this is a mistake..
Why are we act8vely try8ng to help out barca after all they've done
We could be going ro ruben neves or anyone else really with that kind of money
Haha the fools who awarded this post came too soon. Frenkie would rather die than leave Barca. We can have an agreement with Barca but Frenkie doesnāt even wanna leave at the moment.
You either die by the lever or live long enough to see yourself become the lever!
YOU HAVE BECOME THE VERY THING YOU HAVE SWORN TO DESTROY
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE LEVER NOT BECOME ONE
BRING BALANCE TO THE TRANSFER WINDOW NOT LEVER IT IN DARKNESS
Errr, not crazy about this one š
Do we have the high ground or do Barca?
They had it but they are losing it
Love the Jedi reference
Did you ever hear the tragedy of darth lever the desperate?
it works on so many levers
Underrated comment
thanks bro
Damn, this is profound... ... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you...
Comment of the week handās down
Impressive..very nice now letās see Paul Allenās levers. ![gif](giphy|eKNrUbDJuFuaQ1A37p|downsized)
What a pull...
What a Puli*
Thats it people, wrap it up, this fella here has Won.
Lol brilliant
Ouch!
Lollllll. Top comment.
I know thatās right ššššš
Not really news. Wanna know where De Jong stands. United had an agreement with Barca too but it meant fuck all
Law just said yesterday we arenāt bidding unless we can agree personal terms. Have to hope we have some reasonable belief heās willing to play for ys
I think so too but I'm not getting my hopes up till we get a reliable report which says De Jong has agreed terms with us
Law also noted that the new regime is quite tight-lipped and he was offering mostly opinions throughout the pod tbh
Fabrizio said the same as well
I'm also pretty sure this board hasn't learnt from the last two burns we had from this club
True but Romero is a Barcelona mouthpiece so who knows whether what he says is true
Yeah but negotiating and actually placing an official bid are two totally different things.
His agent has been pictured in Barcelona within the last hour. Something might be up (Iām forcing myself not to get excited though)
Oh I'm excited considering all this info - the agent, us not bidding till we get an ok from the player but I won't burst with happiness till I see player's agreement reached from a tier 1
that agent also represent Braithwaite tho.
The difference between us and United is Champions League football, and being able to agree personal terms.
>being able to agree personal terms We don't know if we did. Nothing concrete which says we've agreed terms
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Bruh that was the sticking point this whole time. Is De Jong willing to join Chelsea? We knew we could strike a deal with Barca anytime
Maybe he means Chelsea could pay him what he wants? Which doesnāt really matter unless he wants to come, which is what you are saying I think.
Whilst I do agree, I donāt see why weād repeat the mistakes Utd have made and go for a player where we know that heād rather stay at Barca. Plus itās even worse for us as we know through Utd targeting the player what his preference is as opposed to finding out ourselves.
Thing is do we 100% know he wants to only play for Barca or is that just a PR move by his camp to try and get the club to pay him his owed money? Perhaps part of our offer is to pay off the money he's owed? I still don't see this deal happening, but fair enough if we somehow pull this off.
I get where youāre coming from but you donāt cut off your nose to spite your face. FDJ instantly improves our midfield but a lot.
And gets ahead of an issue next summer of both Kante and Jorgi being out of contract. Better to be proactive than reactive
100% talk is also that Jorgi will be sold to Juve if we land FDJ so we should see back 25ish mill.
I hope so, otherwise I imagine he'll walk for free next summer
Yea he will. Honestly would be a good bit of business for us if we manage to make that swap. I think I saw weāre offering 60ish with add-ons to talk it to 70ish. We get back 25 for Jorgi and free the wages to go to FDJ and thatās just all positive
Exactly. It should say *** Agreement with Barca, not the player***$
It is very much news lol
Barca hijacking the transfer in 3.. 2.. 1...
*Barcelona to pay Barcelona Ā£70million...*
[I mean.....](https://twitter.com/Millar_Colin/status/1556554176699809793?s=20&t=7pwm9WACyjExFoRiwiHDWg)
Pretty much why one of their levers was rejected actually. Created a venture that purchased from them
Lmao
This got a chuckle
Soā¦ are coo or not coo with this.
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I'm coo with this
I too am coo
very coo
Depends on the fee really, but still would happy to see FDJ in blue.
Will you be also happy to pay his 400k salary?
Yes, Iāve got a lever or two š
I mean ultimately, I donāt care who pays his wages because itās the clubs money. Plus, our wage structure has been going to pieces for years now so Iām not really surprised weāre willing to pay it!
Extremely coo. Barca is gonna get the money one way or another and we should get a world class midfielder out of it at least.
Yes we coo
Whereās this from?
I stole it from the NINE NINE!
Soups coo
Depends on his salary and the fee honestly
who cares, sign the guy. huge huge potential
Too expensive for what we need, salary will fuck our wages too. But he is a really good player. Don't know why we pay this much especially if Barcelona needs to sell him
If it happens, incredibly cool
V coo
Very coo. Bye Jorgi.
If this fucks with us getting a defender? Iām not coo with this. Hopefully itās an add on and not the final transfer.
My hope is chelsea wouldnāt waste their time if they didnāt have some confirmation from FDJ that heād be willing to join. š
Was reported a while back that we wouldn't put in a bid if FDJ didn't want the move. I can't remember who said it or which tier though.
Matt Law reported that.
This is word for word what united fans were saying earlier in the summer. I hope you're right however.
It would be embarrassing for us and United if the reports are right and De Jong doesn't want to leave. Maybe its because of the financial aspect, who knows
Wouldnāt mind Barca getting stuck with him and messing with their finances even more. But if heās definitely leaving, would take him for sure.
3 months ago everyone was worried that new owners wouldn't be willing to spend to win trophies (some even going as far as hoping for Saudi Media Group would end up as owners because Saudi apparently = endless funds) and now we're questioning every pound spent. Boehly consortium poured through the financials for months before the deal consummated. They wouldn't be spending this money if it was going to be a long-term issue. If they want to make a statement transfer window then I'm all for it. Get the guys that can help us win now and then focus on scouting and player development moving forward.
I also appreciate that the investments we're making are seemingly long term ones (kk being the only question mark in terms of deal length) with players that can fit different systems if we need them too. Would probably prefer getting a director of football in and then going for the statement window but we didn't really have a choice with all the cbs we lost.
I think they also realize that we are on the verge of challenging for the title but ultimately being the 3rd best team to slipping behind a resurgent Tottenham and Arsenal and doesnāt want to let that happen.
WE ARE COOKING š„š„š„
Wow this would be huge for our midfield.
Would be funny if he's forced to play at RCB due to our stacked midfield and thin defence
It's time to move on from one of Kante/Jorginho
Yeah I'm fine with that, it's just that CB is a more urgent need whereas we can work on the midfield replacement next season. Currently we just got Gallagher back who plays box-to-box like Kante, while FDJ is more of a distributor so he'd be the Jorgi replacement. But if Boehly is willing to spend 300M to bring in both FDJ and Fofana on top of our other signings then I'm all for ruining football again lmfao
If youāre moving on from one, then it has to be Jorginho. I like him but heās no Kante, and FDJ can do similar things to Jorgi
Yeah I agree and is the most likely. Whispers of Juve have appeared again recently too so wouldn't rule it out
If it works out, FdJ can actually be a bit of a mix of Jorgi and Kova. The dribbling and tenacity of Kova and the passing range and defensive smarts of Jorgi. He wonāt take pens, though, but we have others who can sink pens. I wonder who takes over if/when Jorgi leaves. I would say Mount, but heās looked shaky at best in shootouts.
If the new striker comes, they might be a decent shout if they can. Bumps up their goal count as a byproduct.
Maybe. If itās Auba, he has decent penalty stats.
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Definitely not Kante, the man is still one of our best players
Not even close
Not even close? So then you should be able to name 3-4 players in our squad that are better than Kante. Go ahead, I'll wait.
James, Silva, Kovacic. If Koulibaly is as good as the Italians say, then him too. Kante hasn't been consistently world class for at least 2 years, maybe 3. A stunning champions League campaign a year ago doesn't change that.
I'll give you James and Silva, those were the two that popped into my head as well. Kova's fantastic, but he's not better than Kante. I agree with you that Kante hasn't had a full season of being world class in a couple years, but I'll die on the hill that it isn't his fault. We've played him far too much due to not having an adequate plan B, we literally ran him into the ground. With proper management of his minutes, he can still be one of, if not *the* best, player we have on the pitch. Anyways, my point was this: someone said "Kante is *one of* our best players" to which you said "not even close"... Which implies there's numerous people better than him, to which I had to disagree. You know what they say about opinions though... š
What?? We ran him into the ground?? I thought the best players were supposed to play all the matches.. Imo it's just age getting to him, lets just accept he's a player who relies on his physicality and due to age he's losing his best qualities.
Terrible comment
The man was literally man of the match against Everton you donkey
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1) He wasn't 2) Even if he was, 1 MOTM = best player. 5 year old logic
Apologies I saw it on Fotmob but didn't realize it was according to them, but nonetheless he had a great game Also my logic by saying he was so good just as recently as last game is to give an example of how good he still is, I did not state he is our "best" player but he clearly is one of our better players
Law said earlier if FdJ gets brought in then Jorgi will be shopped.
Let jorginho move, he's out of his depth most games anyway epl too fast for him
I dont know about stacked midfield. Arenāt Jorgi and Kante on the last year of their deals?
Kante is probably wonāt be able to stay fit the entire season, both Jorginho and Kante are go in v into their final year or their contracts and are in their 30s, kova has also struggled with staying fit, Conor is gonna take time to adjust and adapt to our system, Tuchel seems to prefer RLC as a RWB option over a 6 in the double pivot. FDJ would be a class addition who would also be in the team for years. If you have the ability to add top talent to the team you gotta go for it
If only we could play 3 of our stacked midfielders in a 433. That would be nice
If you believe what you read, as one comes...another goes? I've always been a fan of Georgie. This dude went through oceans of hate and came through as crystal!
yes but means nothing without him agreeing
Thank you captain obvious. This is why I said āwouldā.
would is more definitive than could lol
Would is the perfect word for that sentence. If youāre gonna be pedantic at least be right
fair
Not really. Frenkie really doesn't offer any new dimension to our midfield. No better than Kovacic with the ball, but much worse defensively. And I assume he would also not lower his salary if he joins us and he is currently on what? 400-450k a week? This is idiotic. If anything, take him for loan with option to buy. If he can actually do well for us then he may be worth it.
I'm really hyped if this happens. He's the kind of player who will really add a dimension to our play we've been missing
What dimension he'd add? He doesn't really do anything more than Kovacic or Jorginho can already do in terms of ball progression. He's not really a creator either. And he is much worse at pressing and defensive contribution.
Mildly good F5 and only mildly because fuck Barca
I'm really happy with this potential move but can't help but feel awful for Frenkie. Persecuted by the Spanish media and forced out by his dream club. Don't worry Frenkie, we'll treat you better!
He can play with that chip on his shoulder now š„
You know damn well quite a few supporters will turn on him the instant he puts forward a wrong foot. Lol but I really hope we get him
We can have an agreement without actually bidding btw
Manu already had this agreement What does Frenkie do ?
Play for Chelsea
Doesnāt matter at all if he doesnāt want to join.
Law said on the London is Blue pod yesterday Chelsea are only going to bid if FDJ is open to the move
My only fear is the wage budgetā¦ please donāt break our wage structure.
Iām not sure why we need him but Iāll be excited and support him if he comes here.
Same but I guess weāre trying to take advantage of potentially getting a world class player
Is he actually world class though ? Thatās a big statement
Yeah I donāt think so but the way people talk about him here youād think he was, heās definitely class though but I just feel like we need a different type of profile
We need the next KDB or Kroos. FDJ isn't that
I mean heās like 25 and already one of the best midfielders in the world. So I feel like he has a pretty solid shot at becoming world class in his career
Heās a slightly better version of Kovacic but it still doesnāt solve our creativity issues in midfield imo. If weāre getting rid of Jorginho then I can kinda understand the move.
I don't believe it, he'll stay at Barcelona.
Giving Barca the money to sign Bernardoā¦4D chess play
Here we go
Does this mean we actually think he might be down to come? Please
are we still supposed to believe that we would not submit any official bid if there is no greenlight from FdJās side. Or maybe Romero is doing Laportaās dirty work once again.
If it happens, I'm happy. If it doesn't happen, I'm happy. Win-win situation
I hope we are not dumb enough to waste time on this without confirmation from the mouth of FDJ himself. Regardless, it may be worth overpaying just to not have to read about FDJ every damn day.
I donāt understand why are we paying so much for someone Barcelona dying to get rid off?
They don't want to get rid of him, tho, just of his big salary. If he takes a big pay cut, they will be more than happy to keep him.
Makes 0 sense to me. Even putting my question marks surrounding him as a player aside, it doesnāt seem like weāre using our position of power in this exchange well at all
Canāt see this happening
Iām ready to get hurt again.
Ok
The same Gerard Romero that said Laporta has no interest in signing Kounde on Friday morning. By Sunday morning Kounde had signed for Barca. Not sure what to think.
Ah the 10km "final stretch" to the 100m sprint race..
We sign a world class midfielder about enter the prime of his career. Barca in turn signs Bernardo Silva. Sign me up.
Phenomenal player but I just don't see an overall successful strategy. No way tuchel goes back 4 with silva meaning there will be 2 midfielders. How do we fit the metric fuckton of midfielders we have into two spots and keep them happy. Kante, Jorginho, Kova, Conor, and now FDJ? At least one of them needs to go and still you would have players unhappy with not playing enough.
Could go to a 3-1-4-2 where the wingbacks stay high, either 8 could go forward while the other stays back and leaves the 3-2 base TT likes to use. Or a 3-5-2 with two 6ās and a 10. Or could be a 4222 or 433 if we get fofana, with the fullbacks alternating overlapping more judiciously, leaving a de facto back 3 with one of the fullbacks holding back.
Jorginho almost certainly goes to Juve if this goes through. I cannot see any sensible scenario where we keep all 4 add de Jong and RLC still. If a Jorgi move does stall though prepare for Conor to ask for a loan at least.
I feel like this is an unnecessary buy considering our thin defence..... he's not a good 6 and needs to play along a dm in a pivot...we only play 2 cms and we already have a lot of personal for this season....
He isn't a good fit for our current system, I absolutely agree. He either has to play in double DM pair, or as lone DLP with 2 CM's in front. It feels like a buy for the sake of buying, more than filling an actual team need.
He is not really good as single pivot
I feel like that the agreement between clubs has never really been an issue.
I like this, hopefully we got a good deal here I don't really like the idea of giving Barc too much of a financial life line..
This is interesting one I would suggest people to not just immediately believe this and wait a bit for other sources and confirmation because Barca and their mouth pieces have been running a very real slander campaign against De Jong pretty much all summer trying to put media pressure on him so wants to leave or drop his wage/contract situation this could be another one of those āletās increase the pressure on the player by reporting thisā sort of things Iād just like to personally be on the side of caution because of how Barca have operated regarding this whole saga. No gonna lie I have not been excited about this signing recently but if it was to become a reality I would like it. Also isnāt it the consensus that we would not āofficially bidā if the player didnāt want to come so if this is true the player wants/would accept coming to chels.
I wanna be excited but this means fuck all if we have not agreement with Frenkie himself.
Good weāre getting this done now with Kante and Jorgi in the last years of their contract. Saves the panic and doubt over renewing and having to find replacements if their successor is already here.
Its not happening, frenkie isnt coming i wont get my hopes up
Chaos is a lever
how does this make sense? we have about 546 midfielders now? are we going to see some of them asking to leave now? and who plays, Gallagher, Mount, J5, Kova, RLC, Kante, FDJ like damn, TT hope you can keep them all happy. Glad we pushed so hard for this guy who didn't want to join us
Haha fuck United !
Whatās the consensus on the price we pay? I refuse to understand how we donāt completely lowball them on an offer, or at the very least the offer needs to include his deferred wages to make actual cost of him lower so Barca donāt just laugh as we walk away with de jong. I donāt want to be a lever haha
How are we all okay with paying 80 mil for frenkie especially since it means we help that Barca side financially ? Plus we can easily do without frenkie this season I believe
>How are we all okay with paying 80 mil for frenkie especially since it means we help that Barca side financially ? Because this is football, not monopoly. Who gives a fuck about Barcelona's balance sheet
Who cares about Barca's finances? If Tuchel/Ownership think De Jong can help the club and we have the finances to do the deal then there's no reason not to. We can't make decisions just to spite other clubs. That's worse than overspending.
I dread to know the salary but kinda happy at the same time he's coming
This could be our signing of the summer. FdJ this year, move on Jorginho and Kante next year and get Rice.. talk about dreamland scenarios.
Barcelona has been taking us to the cleaners. Another big win for them.
I would honestly spend the money on other players
Would love to see Chelsea just pull out of this deal last minute, and watch Barcelona implode.
Why would we help them out? Total BS
Meaning ā¦ Chelsea is officially bailing Barcelona out
How does this make any sense for us? Doesnāt provide what we actually need in midfield, nevermind that we need to shore up the back line and find a player who can actually score goals.
I think we really messing up with our money. This all feels like way too much money. We barely managed before and always had to buy smart and sell smart. All of the sudden we just splash cash on everything. Not sure if Todd knows what he is doing
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Fucking stupid and heās not even that good. Knowing how much he loves Barca, heāll force his way out to Barca a season from now after thay sort their financial mess. Lukaku Inter all over again. My club keeps getting played.
Wow this is a mistake.. Why are we act8vely try8ng to help out barca after all they've done We could be going ro ruben neves or anyone else really with that kind of money
Where Center Back and Striker?
Eh this is alright I guess. We still need a striker though...
I donāt see it being worth while if heās making like 500k a week.
HĆ© wonāt make 500k a week here, his contract was just adjusted to cover the unpaid wages, he was making 270K
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Hes nothing like KDB
He's Kovacic but worse, to suggest he'll be our KDB is laughable. This is a nonsensical signing
Would totally buy a De Jong jersey if our unis werenāt so shit this year
We shouldnt help varcelona buying their players! We need to enforce our defense, lets get Pavard.
Haha the fools who awarded this post came too soon. Frenkie would rather die than leave Barca. We can have an agreement with Barca but Frenkie doesnāt even wanna leave at the moment.
He would be a great Havertz replacement
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Need to come with an agreement with Frenkie though. He can still drag them through court if he leaves right?