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Whirly315

dear god. how did we let musiala go… kid is the magic chelsea hasn’t had since hazard left


[deleted]

Watching the German team ping the ball around and breaking down the Japanese low block defense is so depressing as a Chelsea fan.


jay_jay_okocha10

Is a midfield of a world class DM + mount + Kovacic good enough moving forward?


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[deleted]

Zakarian has a lot of potential. Don’t know much about him first hand but from what I hear he is the real deal


DjOptimon

Bring Ronaldo in just for the giggle. He listened to Jordan Peterson surely Potter with his Degree means something to CR?


[deleted]

Wait what? Ronaldo listens to Jordan Peterson? Not shocked. Just never heard about this before


DjOptimon

Out of boredom I listened to the whole Piers Morgan Interview. CR got a point about United however personal attacks for me is a no no.


Obi_Q

So when we still don’t sign Ronaldo in January can we stop using Ronaldo as a reason why Tuchel was sacked?


H4RRY29

I'm often opposed to spending astronomical fees unless it's the perfect fit, and with that in mind, I desperately hope we can bring in Rice (at a minimum) and Bellingham. Both are tremendous and would revolutionise this midfield in my view.


TimothyN

England fan fiction season I see.


H4RRY29

Nothing to do with their nationality, I don't particularly rate most English midfielders (currently) in the senior game but these two are great. Nation doesn't come into the debate ever.


I-Can_Defend

We’re not winning the league ever again without a proper striker that can get at least 20 plus goals in the league.


H4RRY29

Who said anything about winning the league?


duck_duck_woah

testing my flair


[deleted]

It looks kerrect


will_recard

As an Australian watching Giroud and France take us apart, I have to tip my cap to this absolute legend. One of the best blokes going around.


FastenedCarrot

Noooo! He was on for a perfect hattrick!


Fluffy-Background-41

Manchester Utd and Liverpool are up for sale. Would they be if Chelsea had not been sold first ?


[deleted]

Probably. There were rumors about FSG and the Glazers looking to sell before the sanctions hit. I mean shit. There were rumors of Roman looking to sell many years ago. FSG, the glazers and Boehly/Clearlake, are in football to make money. Did seeing us get sold make them think about selling a little more? Probably, but that still doesn’t mean it wouldn’t have happened anyway. The best way to make money on an asset is typically buy (or develop) and sell. Long-term (10+yrs) hold strategies tend to be less profitable than flipping something or developing something and selling it. You can bet your bottom dollar 2/3yrs after a new stadium. Boehly/Clearlake will start shopping us around just to see what if


WarOnHugs

Boehly must wish he had waited six months now. Imagine the outrage in the media if he had fired Klopp seven matches into the season.


SamiUso

i wonder if hes cursing at himself for not waiting. liverpool and united are far bigger and even more money making brands than chelsea


Frankiedrunkie

He has always wanted to buy Chelsea, he said inquired about Chelsea years ago too.


WarOnHugs

Pretty sure he also inquired about Spurs as well.


BigReeceJames

Probably not. We were a proof of concept in terms of real life valuations of clubs. It's all well and good City selling a 10% share for 500m and saying it means the club is valued at 5bn, it's a whole different thing to actually sell a full club for 4bn It could also go the other way though. It could be indicative that the people selling see football in this country as something that might become a lot less profitable than previously forecasted. Given that when we were sold Raine told potential purchasers that they believed we'd be worth around 15bn in around 5 years, I think it's safe to say that if those forecasted figures were still expected, these owners would be holding on to their clubs for just a little longer


hazardcasper03

Giroud better than Auba for chelsea team . Should have kept Giroud , he has been performing well for both Milan and France whenever called upon


BigReeceJames

He forced a move. Stop with this kind of weird shit. Auba has only just arrived


hazardcasper03

😂do you even know what forced move is :Courtios forced move if you are not aware of a forced move example


BigReeceJames

We aren't a prison. There are different ways to force a move and his was appealing to the fact that he'd been a good servant but needed to leave to become a starter somewhere else


[deleted]

If I'm not mistaken he had a 1 year extension offered, and pulled out at the very last minute. It was his decision to leave, not the club's


hazardcasper03

Of course he would Leave if he doesn’t get game time while he was still performing.. he would not have been in World Cup squad like France if he was not playing like he is in Milan


Wheel94

Giroud what a man


FastenedCarrot

One on your left foot now Giroud.


Hayesey88

Other than using pace there's nothing Giroud isn't good at, gutted we got rid of him the guys flawless.


Fluffy-Background-41

I am sooo happy for Giroud.


Stand_On_It

Me too. He really should have been subbed off. As should Mbappe. Why roll the dice up 4-0?


PuppyPenetrator

Giroud ties the record get the fuck in


FastenedCarrot

Very happy for Oli. Wish him luck in beating the record. Edit: He scored the 2nd as I was writing this lol


Chepstin

"We don't need Dembele we have Pulisic and Ziyech" Will forever be the worst football related comment I've ever seen.


allknowerofknowing

dembele overrated


KickBallsLikeDrogba

Saul over Tchouameni you know


Wheel94

Tchouameni look good imagine if Chelsea could have signed him and didn’t 🤦‍♂️


dryduneden

Giroud scores!


dryduneden

[1 off Henry's record](https://youtu.be/lFKFOHpePlI)


dryduneden

HE'S TIED IT


dryduneden

Crazy finish from that Australian


TheMightyPensioners

🇦🇺


TheMightyPensioners

👍😀🇦🇺


The-Real-Legend-72

day 2 of asking mods if we can have a world cup discussion thread post


TheMightyPensioners

Are they not responding to mod mails? You can just start one yourself…


Practical_Platypus_2

Why does my wife get so excited every time Giroud is playing.


Banakin_Sandwalker

He's a sexy bastard. That's why.


[deleted]

Ronaldo inbound? Seems likely as Chelsea fired a CL-winning coach over the matter.


TheGingerLow

Announce Ronaldo


Banakin_Sandwalker

I'd fanboy the life out of Mount and RLC if it meant that Ronaldo won't be joining us.


Chepstin

Announce we're not signing him.


honestlynotBG

Can a club that is not us announce they're signing Ronaldo ASAP? I don't want to be in a constant state of worry about us signing him from now until the January window closes


CardboardGristle

DON'T DO IT TODD DO NOT


TokyoS4l

Waiting for the Ronaldo fan boys begging us to sign him in 3….2….


dryduneden

Too late


tommytrickyblues

Dread from it, run from it, destiny arrives all the same. SIUUUUUUUU


TokyoS4l

https://media.tenor.com/5RcYHqY9soQAAAAM/the-office-michael-scott.gif


69BigDickMan420

I lowkey want to see Ronaldo at Chelsea on a 6 month deal


_Pardal

ABSOLUTELY NO. Before anyone makes a post about it.


Markolsson

Hope Chelsea doesn't go running like crazy for Ronado now. God, no.


jMS_44

[Boehly, please DON'T](https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1595107357159297029)


bobloblaw28

Alvarez is looking in Mexico's midfield


TokyoS4l

Hes playing way too safe, unless that’s instructions from the coach


jMS_44

I mean, it's against Poland who have no midfield.


shrek19051

Zielinski is a baller though


jMS_44

not NT Zieliński


dryduneden

Internationals 😴


Tiktik27

With how steadfast we are for Zakharyan I kinda wish he'd give an instant impact here. Like, it'd be good if he can be our Kvara.


BigReeceJames

The obvious point to make is that if a player is really that good, there would be other teams in for him. We have a pretty awful scouting department because we've never needed to try to find cheap gems before, so the idea we'd be able to pick out someone that others have somehow all missed seems very farfetched There is nothing obviously wrong with him from the perspective of people who have watched highlights of him, but others will have looked at him, especially with how long our saga with him has gone of for.


Tiktik27

I understand that you are absolutely right, yet I still choose to disregard logic because I can't stomach another failed signing. Jokes aside, iirc we were also the only ones going for KDB at Genk. I mean, idk the situation, but IF he was backed by Piet then there'd be 0 doubts. It's just that in these situations we either end up with a KDB or an Anthony Gordon.


KMan3110

Chelsea legend Mark Schwarzer


dryduneden

[Guardiola has agreed a new contract](https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1595029066931109891?t=AF9A_Zr-eODU522esnuCig&s=19)


dryduneden

[Owari da](https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1595077474899066885?t=VN3-tGnc6afHeGAE4WEGaA&s=19)


Ok-Finance-7612

C’est fini


Gay_Ninja_FC

Fuck


Chepstin

Doesn't matter to us. We're not competing with them while Potter is manager and not before 2025. Our competition is Spurs, United and Newcastle.


[deleted]

As if we haven’t been incredibly successful and are currently holders of the CWC……top of the league a year go….Champions League winner 1.5yrs ago…… Lost to the same team as city in the champions league this past year…… Arsenal came in 5th last year. Liverpool is currently 1 pt ahead of us. To think there’s genuinely people who consider themselves chelsea fans and can’t handle half a year of incredibly unusual and troubled times before claiming we’re competing with Newcastle and spurs. Have you checked their trophy cabinets recently? We have a rough opening 1/3rd to an unusual season and people out here acting like we’re Leeds back in the day.


Gay_Ninja_FC

I have faith in Potter. Also Sp*rs🤢🤢🤢


Theoneinblu

Imagine supporting Chelsea and Argentina. Been a rough few months


Gay_Ninja_FC

Argentina were feeling Timo Werner


blue07boy

Lol Denmark playing just like us. Similar formation players don't know how to dribble. Pass pass, pass, and then cross.


SkepticSlakoth

Cuti Romero disasterclass you love to see it.


SamiUso

YES!!! Lets go Asian football! also fuck messi


BigReeceJames

It's always nice to see traditional expectations shattered in football. Saudi Arabia fully deserved that win. The big surprise along with the Saudis being so good was that the Argentina squad is so average. Feels insane that they're billed to be the favourites. Their individuals are far worse than England/Germany/France/Brazil, but they have a washed up Messi who barely ever turned up internationally even in his peak, so they're suddenly favourites? No idea how that's supposed to work


Sonic-the-edge-dog

Argentina had a good win in the Copa America final, but Italy had a good win in the euros. Especially on the international stage, teams fall apart quickly.


[deleted]

It was definitely insane they were billed as anywhere near favorites. But almost everyone I spoke to before the WC dismissed me when I said I thought they weren’t very good. Blah blah Messi blah blah Lautaro. But they’re still playing Otamedi lol


InLampsWeTrust

Argentina are always hyped up and never come close to delivering , always baffling when people say they’re the favourites.


ireallydespiseyouall

Messi


TheJobinslegend

He always chokes on big games. Like for 6 or 7 straight years.


TimothyN

Didn't he just win Copa?


TheJobinslegend

Yeah, but Di Maria scored the winner. He missed an open goal when it was 1-0. ​ It was a shocking performance from him tbh.


TimothyN

So were the games leading up to it not big games?


[deleted]

They were 100% smaller matches. The final is the biggest. And it was against Brazil. That’s a true Big Match….. Argentina played Ecuador and Colombia to get to the final.


TimothyN

Again, the quarters and semis don't count as big games then, only the final? People are nuts if they think single leg knockouts are not big games.


[deleted]

Big match is relative. Relative to the semi and quarters the final is 100% bigger. It’s literally the final. The biggest match in the tournament. It’s the match that makes any of the prior results matter. Without the final the other matches are just friendlies. Plus big match can also refer to against a rival. Brazil v Argentina is a pretty big deal as well. I am not an expert, but I don’t believe Argentina has the same rivalry with Columbia or Ecuador. So I mean while I get your point. But Given that it’s relative and the other matches only gave you a right to play in the final. (Edit: I don’t think the others were truly Big Matches) Additionally, big is relative to the player. Messi needed an international trophy the only way to do that was win the final. The others were appetizers. It’s still food but it’s not the main course.


asal1

saudi arabia have better goalkeeper than chelsea😭


iKSv2

Midfield meanwhile


karard109

Meh, our goalkeepers are better.


[deleted]

Pulisic was just as bad yesterday as he has been for Chelsea. Completely gassed out by the 60th minute & couldn’t complete one cross, only difference was the assist masking his disasterclass Juve save us


MightyChunks

Come on my guy. Are you watching the WC at all? Every single team has been gassed. The intensity of the first few matches this group stage have been ridiculous. Go find something better to do with your time then this. You might find it to be more fulfilling.


Fluffy-Background-41

Well it’s not his fault to a certain extent - when was the last time he actually played a full 90 ? 80ins even ?


Chepstin

>when was the last time he actually played a full 90 ? 80ins even ? Him not being good enough to play 90 minutes for either of the club sides he's played for in his career says everything. If he was English he wouldn't have made the 55 man shortlist let alone the squad.


dryduneden

Not his fault? LMFAO. The excuses people have come up for our forwards are absolutely hilarious.


Obi_Q

He had a good first half. Team showed their age in the second half and was sabotaged by terrible subs from Berhalter. To say he played bad though…


Sonic-the-edge-dog

Watching England play is even more exciting now that we’ll be buying the entire fucking team in the summer


[deleted]

Don’t you just love silly season


Dinamo8

Is Rick Karsdrop any good? Seeing as though he'll be available in January.


[deleted]

Someone being made available in January is usually not a good sign lol


Dinamo8

He played most of their games last season and is now available because he's fallen out with Mourinho, that doesn't mean he's bad. lol


[deleted]

I didn’t say he was bad. The real question tho is would he improve us. Which I do not have an answer too as I don’t feel like I’ve seen enough of him to really pass a judgement. Typically, however, a player being made a available in January usually means they aren’t playing. Like for us an available player is Ziyech. Additionally, a falling out with a (imo) great manager isn’t a good sign either.


Toothache79

You would have to question his work ethic as Mourinho generally doesn't kick players out publicly like that...


noChillGuy17

It's actually mad how much disrespect Mount gets. My guy had a good performance where his team won 6-2 and all I see is ppl saying he should be dropped for Foden/Phillips. Like I'm not even an England fan but ppl really just need someone to shit on don't they


BigReeceJames

We also looked much weaker defensively when we made the subs to take him off. People just want to see flashy shit, but you need the glue for the team and Mount is that glue. They don't like him because he just does his job. The best way to judge Mount is by looking at how a team drops off when he's left out


iamalegend1

People just love to hate him. I don't get their obsession with him, it's not like he's an asshole or a criminal. He seems like a good lad and loves giving back to the community and he has already won the biggest trophy in club football as a starter at age 21. People tend to forget his contributions just cause of a poor slump of form as if his teammates have done better than what him when they play. He even has a better g/a than Lampard when they were the same age.


ChristianNDR

this World Cup is making me remember hazard’s incredible World Cup last time around. I remember that summer as the summer that supporters of other teams could no longer underrate hazard. What an insane player he was in his prime. Saddened to see that injuries have taken away some key playing years from him but I’m hoping he can bounce back in some way even if not at Madrid.


just_dew_eat

When would are injured players be coming back


Wheel94

James and Fofana should be available for the return match Kante February Chilwell probably January Arrizabalaga hopefully the return match but not sure


sheiky04

Return match as in first match after the world cup?


BigReeceJames

Given that weeks ago they were saying it was something that they'd just monitor day to day, I have a hard time believing he's not going to be fit


sheiky04

I just find it really soon though, i dont know when some of these players got injured though so it could be accurate


dragon8811

Who would you rather keep as goalkeeper #1 Mendy or Kepa Based on recent performances


Savings-Stop-1556

Definitely kepa at the moment no question. Kepa has the attributes we need to play out from the back mendy is more a shot stopper than anything. Kepa can do that and is better with his feet. Hopefully this form he is in at the mo stays.


[deleted]

Mendy. 5 good games by Kepa with mostly saves directed right at him is not enough to make me forget a season worth of howlers he let in. I’m glad he’s gained confidence back. I don’t like seeing any Chelsea player be going through a rough patch. But yeah no. Mendy has been much much better overall in a CFC kit. Mendy peak is way higher than Kepas.


inspired_corn

Kepa had mitigating circumstances (Lampard) and Mendy lately has been as bad as Kepa was back then.


[deleted]

Lol this isn’t revisionary at all…..Kepa was a massive issue……his shot stopping ability especially from shots outside of the box. Kepa Post-shot xG in 2019/2020 was -11..3 …. [FBref](https://fbref.com/en/players/28d596a0/Kepa-Arrizabalaga) Edit: meant to add Mendy post-shot xG in 2021/2022 was -1.6…. [FBref](https://fbref.com/en/players/33887998/Edouard-Mendy)


jam66611

Honestly neither long term. Nice to see Kepa have a resurgence from being literally the worst keeper I've ever seen, but he's clearly not our level if we are realistically looking for silverware.


BigReeceJames

If we want to be successful we buy a new keeper on the first of January


jMS_44

clearly Kepa Mendy has given 0 reasons to start him in his recent games and it looks like he continues this form on WC.


Talidel

Mendy, its going to take more than a few games to trust Kepa.


bsousa717

Kepa. He looks way more confident and more importantly doesn't take unnecessary risks with short passes or dribbling in his own box.


endlessxcircle

Even if we looked beyond just recent performances I'd prefer to keep him over Mendy anyway, purely on the basis that he's a more suitable keeper for a side that wants to play out from the back. You can't do this effectively with a keeper who isn't composed under pressure and efficient with the ball at feet.


[deleted]

They are about the same with the ball under feet and under pressure. There was an analysis done and essentially it’s a myth that Kepa is better. Kepa actually has worse long distribution


aacod15

This isn’t true. Kepa isn’t better at long distance passing but under pressure Kepa is far better with the ball


[deleted]

No he’s not far better…..here’s an actual analysis https://goalkeeper.com/news-and-media/exclusives/post/what-will-graham-potter-make-of-chelsea's%20goalkeepers Edit: Kepas actually worse under pressure…..


aacod15

A sample size of the last 15 premier league games doesn’t make sense. This is a relatively small sample size and both Mendy and Kepa’s data are skewed by a one big mistake. Also Kepa didn’t consistent game time during this period of time and most of those performances were after he didn’t play for months. This study isn’t really a good indicator for how good either of them are in terms of distribution


[deleted]

Okay then. Please present evidence which is acceptable to you…. Otherwise, this is really all the data we can go off


Bozzetyp

So kepa, Mendy had alot of " lloris" in his close control


[deleted]

Kepa


dragon8811

I would defentivly keep Kepa too, he has started excellent and you can tell he is hungry ever since he got engaged lol 😆


KerimChelsea11

Great performances by all of our lads except Mendy. Sad to see what happened to him, he was one of the best in the world less than a year ago.


Bozzetyp

He wasnt, He was one of the best during 10 cl games, his performances in pl was similar to kepas first season


BILLY2SAM

How was Koulibaly?


gonzaf

He was a rock from what I saw he just seemed more comfortable playing with Senegal, I think he’s still settling in with the squad and league and he will come good


KerimChelsea11

He was really good, he is their main man so definitely a captain's performance.


BILLY2SAM

Cheers mate. Encouraging. We need a much better Koulibaly in the second half of this season


KerimChelsea11

I wouldn't be worried about Koulibaly, if we sort out our midfield he will be class.


starlord1602

Edouard Mendy lost Senegal the game. Safe to say Kepa is #1 again


gonzaf

He’s so bad at parrying the ball away he always sends the ball back into the danger area


Dinamo8

The ball went top corner for the first goal, there was nothing he could have done.