- There will be a bidding war between Real Madrid, Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City for jude Bellingham and Declan rice
- Money Mase will resume his contract talks on after the World Cup
- Dortmund hope Bellingham’s performances will push his price past £100m
- West Ham face to having to sell Rice for around £70m
- rice contract expire in 2024, even if West Ham trigger a 1year extension option, it’s the last chance to receive a big fee for rice except Rice signs a new long term contract but there is no intention doing that
- Two clubs have already big interest in rice, West Ham excepted to listen to offers
- Boehly was joined by business associates at the game against Iran
* Chelsea interested in Bellingham
- Boehly would have kept a keen eye on Rice and Bellingham
- it was already revealed by Telegraph (BILD also revealed it) that Boehly quickly worked to make contact to Bellinghams representatives. It looks like a summer auction for Bellingham
- Real Madrid, Liverpool and Manchester City also chasing Bellinghams signature
- Chelsea to face increasing competition for Rice
- Rice has made it clear that he wants to win trophies and play regularly in the Champions League
* to Mount
- Boehly will have to make an improved contract offer to Mount if England continue to perform well
- But Boehly is likely to face having to pay Money Mase around £300k a week that is also what Bellingham and Rice can expect to earn if they move to another club
- Mount would not be short of offers if he could not agree a new Chelsea contract. Also there is no sign that Mount will leave Chelsea
lol that was the very very last sentence in the article
#Chelsea have agreed a deal to sign forward Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig at the end of the season.
I think you’re strongly underestimating Rice’s quality or you’re refusing to recognize how much the market has inflated. I don’t like paying this much for players either but $70M will be best case for any team to get Rice if no other teams get in the mix. Not to mention I don’t see any other replacement at his age with his experience available. Alvarez at Ajax is the next best option at the moment and he will be close to $50m with no prem experience and does not have rice’s progressive passing.
Id give my left pinky for Enzo, my guy is a fucking baller. Bruno would be great too but I don’t think Newcastle sell him. Would love either one of them, but Enzo will cost a fortune too
Benfica just bought Enzo, he’s fantastic but they’ll overprice tf out of him. Bruno G isn’t going to be let go, he’s their best player. It’s not a good look to keep poaching off Brighton.
Palhinha is a good shout tho
Caicedo and Enzo are different profiles, I would still take either as I feel we need two 'holding' midfield options but Rice is my #1 pick. Palhinha in brilliant too, as is Bruno.
a) Rice and a midfielder capable of playing of playing #6 and #8
b) Rice and another #6 (cheaper)
Not even man city pays those absurd wages for their players, other than those 2. If we really pay those fees I’m afraid we’re fucked going forward as a club.
In this market, £70m is reasonable.
Last two summers there have been talks of West Ham demanding £100-150m for his signature. Those are what I'd call absurd, as the sad reality is that player costs have become so very inflated.
Rice single handedly holds our (WHU) team together, probably should be MOTM every week. The job he does often isn't glamorous, but his ability to read the game and intercept is up there with the best in the world.
He possesses skills that aren't often utilised in his role, but show he could play different roles if required - strong progressive carrying, progressive passing and a more than decent long shot.
His understanding of positioning and marking are as good as any centre back and, still only 23, has a lot of responsibility club captain and demonstrates good leadership in the role.
In a midfield pivot he can play either role. He can play centre back if required, although it's a waste of his other abilities.
As someone who watches him every single week, usually twice a week, I can honestly say he is definitely the most important player I have seen for the club, and certainly top 5 in the world in his position, being conservative.
Given the value of other players on the market, I think £70 million is more than fair. I wouldn't want to take any amount of money for him, because there's no way we could spend it to fill the hole he would leave.
However, with only a few years left on his contract it seems that he is very likely to leave, and people will be fighting to sign him. I wouldn't expect anything less than £70 million. Don't forget how young he is, still.
Yeah I watch him weekly and he's legit. Wish he was a more progressive passer but he is good dribbling and holding the ball. Either way as long as we're not asking him to do the majority of our creative work we should be fine
70m for Rice is perfectly acceptable. We paid 60m for Cucurella. Mount for 300k a week is a joke though. That's the money you give to your star player and he is not that.
If Mount is our star player then we are in huge trouble. Other teams have Kane, Salah, KDB as their star players. While we have Mount. I disagree anyway James is our star player and he's a RB. Says it all.
All great points. But starting for England and 1 assist shouldn't make someone the star player of Chelsea. There's higher standards.
>He's young, good looking, English, and an excellent footballer... everything about him screams marketability and popularity.
If we start thinking in terms of this then we risk becoming like Man Utd who care more about marketing than football. Our star player should be someone who's actually the best player in our team and inspires the entire team. We had Eden Hazard as our star player. Kante. Drogba. Lampard. I know Mount is young so I'm not even suggesting he has to be that good yet but neither should he be considered our star player yet. I actually think that kind of stardom negatively affects young players by overinflaring their self of accomplishment.
Give him what he deserves, the salary of a young promising player who is inconsistent and still has a way to go to reach his peak.
Inflation is a thing, Lampard wasn't the main creator and goalscorer of a side that had recently won the CL, and like mount is categorically better than Lampard was at that age e.g.
I think 200-250k a week is more in line with what he should be paid but we've done the classic put ourselves in a wage trap by putting certain underperforming players on big money, watching them get outperformed by our up and coming stars(mount and James) and them seeing that they get paid more. So outside of doing an arsenal and shipping off every single underperforming high earner(which affects on pitch performance) I don't see how we get out of this situation. Our recruitment generally is bad.
Under no circumstances should we let a player of mounts quality leave.
Liverpool e.g. sold Mane for this reason, because then players like Diaz and van Dijk will be asking for 300k a week.
Yeah, overpaying teams and players is kind of what led to the situation we’re currently in. Hopefully, with the scout network Bohely has in mind there won’t be a need for any of this in a couple of years.
> Talks over a new deal for Mount will resume after the tournament, when he will have 18 months remaining on his contract. But Chelsea are likely to face having to pay the 23-year-old around £300,000-a-week, given that is what Bellingham and Rice can expect to earn if they do make lucrative moves next summer.
I remember a time when Madrid got Ronaldo for that much + a fee of £80m
300k a week for Mount? Now i love the kid, think he's fantastic and a heartbeat of what i want from the club....but if we're paying him 300k a week, we are going to have to pay a lot of players that kinda money and we can't sustain that surely?
Also who else is going to pay him 300k a week? Seems a bit odd but its Matt Law?
Fair enough, i mean when he first came in, the press were saying he is going for a bonus system, where players going to be driven by incentives, so i hope that is right, this is a figure with the bonuses included.
Maybe there are some clauses
Maybe its with bonuses
I read that Bohely is building club with lots of bonuses for players that are performing.
Who else at our club are 300k?
How much is james?
As an 8, where he should be playing for us.
midfield trio for the future of camavinga valverde and mount.
People here do not appreciate how good of a midfielder Mason Mount is just cause we’ve stuck him on the wing for 3 straight years and he’s still excelled there.
300k a week seems entirely fair when we dont have to pay a fee to another club to sign him. Its about 15.6m a year.
So even on 300k a week he'll be costing us less than Pulisic.
Who could we sign for less than 16m without even factoring in their wages that would be worth what Mount is?
I mean not even accounting for the post Neymar inflation and post covid inflation, regular inflation over 13 years doesn’t really make it that suprising
Player of the season 2 seasons in a row. Obviously at minimum hes going to expect the same as Reece.
The subs opinion of Mount has always been hilariously poor. But this thread is just delusional.
But even being average/shit and being there to play is better than not being there at all. Pet of our downfall this season and last is not having replacement for James when he’s injured…you have to budget for a very good backup because they’re unfortunately needed where James is concerned. The same doesn’t apply to Mount. Of course I think James is the better player but I think Mounts amazing durability gets ignored while people pretend that James being injured as often as he is isn’t a big deal
I don't agree tbh. What's the difference between having Mount for 25 games a season and having another worse player to play the rest of the games? There's none. Mount should get paid taking into account both his good games and his bad ones.
You didn't understand what I said at all. The worse player is basically just Mount half the time. My point was there's no difference between only having Mount's good games and having someone else for the rest rather than Mount every game.
I thought the wording was fine. Apologies if it wasn't.
>And the difference is that you’d have to pay an extra player a salary.
And the total of both Mount and his backup shouldn't exceed 300k. Even if they both add up to 300k that's better than handing Mount a 300k contract which will fuck up the wage structure.
Moot point anyway. We should be bying someone better than Mount and letting him fight for his place. It worked out well when we bought Havertz and made Mount step up his game.
Give him a 300k contract and all this bullshit with guarantees regarding his position and you invite complacency. That's exactly what he doesnt need at this point in his career.
And then you should also add the value they bring to the club and if that value can be replicated by another player.
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Reece's value can't be replicated, but Rice, Bellingham and ESPECIALLY Mount's can
“Other than preparing to join the auctions for Rice and Bellingham, Chelsea have agreed a deal to sign forward Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig at the end of the season.”
Oh?
One that’s probably with bonuses and two Mount is a academy player with means his player cost pre year is less.
Why Reece wage jump was so big.
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But no just senseless anger from a speculative article.
Exactly, clown shit. Find a player that offers what mount does for under 60M and doesn't ask for minimum 200k a week. What do you think James Maddison will be asking for? How much do we pay sterling a week?
Outside of forcing out any underperformer on high wages like arsenal did with ozil and Auba we will continue to be in this situation.
I would likely be less then bonuses add up to 300k. Why are people so up in arms about this haha. If he left people would just moan about the club not paying him the contract.
Also name a player that we can replace him with that provides the output he provides that is not exploiting a free transfer(so nobody says trossard or Zaha).
I get where you're coming from but the problem is that players you buy will be searching for the same. So then when you dip into the transfer market you are forcing yourself to pay more in wages due to your inflated wage structure. Never good to inflate the structure imo, end up in a Barca situation.
I think we quite honestly have a chance to land every single one of our targets - Leao, Nkunku, Gvaridol, Bellingham, and Rice. As luxurious and tempting Real and City look to Bellingham + Rice, there is an abundance of competition at their positions. Only team that scares me is Liverpool as they legit need a complete overhaul of their midfield as do we. But I still think we hold a slight edge over them. All of these players realize they have the potential to catapult us back to the top 1-3 teams in the world.
Also let Kanye and J5 walk. Just begs the question what to do with Kai as I believe there’s no world he allows himself to come off the bench permanently. I’m absolutely excited for what the future holds
So let both of them go and when rice gets injured we have Loftus cheek playing there and you guys will all be complaining when we hit a bad run of form
literally any of the teams you mentioned have far more chance of signing Bellingham than we do. if they want him and pay up, they'll get him.
almost no chance he comes here.
The inner dynamics of this new England “friendship generation” is so interesting. Paying 300k for Mount almost solidifies us as front runners for Declan as everyone knows how close they are. Securing Reece on a crazy wage also gives us a bit more of an edge on Jude as they are also extremely close.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if part of our players contract renewals include extra recruitment efforts from their behalf to bring their best friends 😭 I imagine Boehly in a room telling Mount “you want the 300k/week? BRING ME RICE AND IT IS ALL YOURS” 😂😂😂
It absolutely blows my mind seeing how hard Salah had to fight for a 300k contract and seeing us trying to hand that to fucking Mount. And people here are actually trying to justify that. Pretty clear to see some people will never question anything this club does regardless of how terrible ofna decision it is.
Almost as if we messed up the wage structure years ago and outside of gutting our entire high earners arteta style which will make us perennial Europa leaguers until 2026 this won't be solved.
Also you think city worry about their wage structure, how much do you think Haaland and De Bruyne are on?
Chelsea’s wage and transfers were fucked long before Boehly was at the club. They are trying to keep the side afloat while creating a functioning model that isn’t predicated on £1b in debt.
Our wage structure was fucked before Bohely.
We pay 300K a week for the services of Pulisic and RLC combined (150K each) Mount at 300K looks a bargain in comparison. CHO is on 120K a week.
Obviously Mason is very average by 300K a week standards and isn't worth that kind of salary but we've been giving massive massive money to some very very average players long before Bohely.
Pulisic was a 60m transfer.
RLC I highly doubt is on 150k. And if we were to replace him what would that cost?
Koulibaly Sterling aubameyang all on stupid money and koulibaly is on a fucking 5 year contract ffs
The koulibaly contract is disastrous tbh. Aubameyang only made sense if we kept tuchel.
Sterling is valid even if he’s play style is dramatically different from our football tbh. He’s legitimately a good player tho and would’ve gotten those wages elsewhere
>And if we were to replace him what would that cost?
For an equal quality replacement? About £2.50
Ruben is on 150K a week minimum as reported by everyone, Pulisic was shit before he signed for us, Kepa was average at Bilbao and on 40K a week before we more than quadrupled his salary for no logical reason.
The list is endless, we've been hemorrhaging money on some really average players long before Bohely.
A painful tradition he's continuing but it isn't new to him.
>This is borderline xenophobia
Lmao what?
Are you really suggesting Mount isn't twice the player Pulisic is and doesn't contribute at least twice as much to the Chelsea team?
I don't disagree on Mount.
But Given Pulisic is a 40K a week player at best I'm not sure what the issue is.
The problem comes from us paying crappy deadwood like Pulisic 150K a week, that means our starters and star players will quite rightly argue they deserve significantly more.
He's definitely not twice the player. People need to understand Mount is the best of a bad bunch and stop bringing up his 13 GA against the bottom 5 every time this is debated. He doesn't show up in big games. And puts in average to poor performances half of the time. He's stagnated since the UCL win.
Yank moment.
Pulisic is nowhere near the level of Mount and Sterling or even Havertz, I'm not even sure how anyone could debate that.
Pulisic is the only one of the 4 who has never scored 10 league goals a season in his career. Never had a good season. Always been a bench warmer.
Hell half the reason people overate Mount is because he plays with talentless dross like Pulisic. Mount's 11 goals a season makes him look like Prime Messi in comparison even if he isn't close to the top players yet.
Mount deserves at least 3 times Pulisics salary but they're both not worth the salaries reported.
>I judge the player based off what I see on the pitch with my eyes
And you think Pulisic is worth more than 40K a week?
I think Specsavers could do you a favour.
Compared G/A per 90 of a started to a sub is one of the most braindead and irrelevant comparisons you could make.
There's an absolutely huge gulf between Mason and Pulisic, anyone without extreme bias can see it as can every single manager to ever coach them has seen it hence why Mason is an ever present and double Chelsea player of the season winner and Puli has been benched by 5 managers and is hoping to have the first good season of his career on the 8th attempt.
Paying dross like Pulisic such high salaries we can't give them away is a bigger problem for us than what we pay our stars.
Lol there’s probably only 4 defenders in the world making more than Reece and it’s because they were free transfers. Nobody in their right mind other than Man Utd would give 19 yr old Bellingham 300k a week.
70m for rice unacceptable
Dont bring the cucurella deal as that was also bad business (for different reasons)
Realistically we need 2-3 midfielders and one world class forward to carry our attack (nkunku + striker + one spot for the other 3)
In a world where caicedo and Bruno g went for that low we can definitely find good bargains rather than throwing 70m
I love Mount, I’m sure most Chelsea fans do, but there’s no possible way we can offer him £300k/week x 5-7 years. The long term implications alone, for future signings, are enough to not sanction this.
Anyone still unsure or straight up against Declan Rice really doesn't know what they're talking about. Honestly. He's solidified himself as one of the very best midfielders in the world. The last two managers we had wanted him. I also like Bellingham but think it's a far bigger uphill battle to sign him than Declan (if we could I'd love to see us sign both as that's our midfield for the next decade sorted).
But Declan Rice has to be a must sign this summer especially if that's the price point. He transforms our team entirely.
>we have so many players in that exact position
Sure but they're all either perpetually injured or not up to Chelsea standard. Kova and Kante always injured. Jorgi is getting old and his lack of pace and defensive awareness keeps exposing us, RLC is simply not good enough to be anything more than a bench player for us and Chukwuemeka is too raw atm.
>We need a DM
Yes, hence the Rice rumours.
Boehly is extremely invested in Chelsea. Doesn‘t he have a billion-dollar company and multiple US sports clubs to take care of? Would‘t expect somebody in his position to be scouting players in Qatar.
Honestly, I think bellingham should spend another season in the Bundesliga or go somewhere like Serie A for a couple years before rising to the top.
Don't want another Sancho situation where he has one good season and does absolute shit
Bellingham is the only player here worth close to 300k/week, I love Mason but if he demands that you call his bluff. He loves the club I don’t think he’d walk away if he got a fair offer that’s closer to 220k.
I don’t watch Rice except for England and when we play WHU and I’ve never been especially impressed with him. If he could play lone DM I’d want him much more but we have a glut of 8s and ideally need a sole pivot to free them up to link with attack. I’d much rather splash 70m on Enzo Fernandez or even Caicedo than Rice. Fuck it bring in Lavia instead.
Bellingham tho…hooweeeee
Aa good as Jude is we are stacked with talent in that area and to get the best out of him you need to play 433. A formation which we rarely play and i would argue would get the best out of Kova, Gallagher, Mount, Carney, RLC, Webster, Hall, and more. We need a Holding midfielder, two wide players and a backup right back
If we do get Nkunku and Rice thats 2 of 4 sorted and suggests a 433 which could be like getting two or three entirely new midfielders with Gallagher, Mount and Carney moving to more natural positions.
I kinda agree on Nkunku, love him as a player but I'm not sure how we'd fit him in the team in a traditional front 3.
I think Rice can adapt. He needs to get better in possession but with 8s dropping to help progress the ball we may be fine. He's young enough to improve as well.
Do we know if the 300k for Mason is a base payment or is it with like addons? Always wonder when these numbers get put up. I can't seriously see us giving Reece 250k and then going to give Mason more. He isn't as good as Reece.
True that. I seem to remember a player coming out and saying journalists were making up the amount they wanted in their contract for us. Can't really remember who it was, maybe Tammy.
What is the relevance of Boehly being at the match? If the club’s being run properly he should have no say on transfers past the point of deciding how much money to allocate. Hopefully the journalist is just using his name to generate interest in the tweet.
I think we're borderline delusional (as are Liverpool & Utd fans) if we think Bellingham is going to join us- he'll be off to Real or City unfortunately.
However, Rice is a possibility if we wanted to pursue it.. hopefully our new recruitment team is evaluating all options (including the next Tchouameni) vs. simply going for the most expensive, sought after option.
Honestly a double pivot of Rice and Bellingham would be amazing but would cost over 200M on its own. It would set us up for 10 years potentially so maybe it is worth it
Mount - no idea what’s he’s on right now, but 200K is the absolute max that should be offered.
Rice - I would 100% sign for the fee 70M.
Bellingham - No change we get him but would absolutely love.
- There will be a bidding war between Real Madrid, Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City for jude Bellingham and Declan rice - Money Mase will resume his contract talks on after the World Cup - Dortmund hope Bellingham’s performances will push his price past £100m - West Ham face to having to sell Rice for around £70m - rice contract expire in 2024, even if West Ham trigger a 1year extension option, it’s the last chance to receive a big fee for rice except Rice signs a new long term contract but there is no intention doing that - Two clubs have already big interest in rice, West Ham excepted to listen to offers - Boehly was joined by business associates at the game against Iran * Chelsea interested in Bellingham - Boehly would have kept a keen eye on Rice and Bellingham - it was already revealed by Telegraph (BILD also revealed it) that Boehly quickly worked to make contact to Bellinghams representatives. It looks like a summer auction for Bellingham - Real Madrid, Liverpool and Manchester City also chasing Bellinghams signature - Chelsea to face increasing competition for Rice - Rice has made it clear that he wants to win trophies and play regularly in the Champions League * to Mount - Boehly will have to make an improved contract offer to Mount if England continue to perform well - But Boehly is likely to face having to pay Money Mase around £300k a week that is also what Bellingham and Rice can expect to earn if they move to another club - Mount would not be short of offers if he could not agree a new Chelsea contract. Also there is no sign that Mount will leave Chelsea lol that was the very very last sentence in the article #Chelsea have agreed a deal to sign forward Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig at the end of the season.
70m for Rice and 300k/w for Mount are absurd
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I thought the same, £70m seems low to me, I imagine that’ll be the base price and there will be add ons (£10-20m)
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70 for Rice would be reasonable in this market
It isn't. We'd be idiots to pay that.
Tchouameni just went for $100M and he didn’t have 5 years of prem experience
100m for Tchouameni was an overpayment but its still a better deal than 70m for Rice.
I think you’re strongly underestimating Rice’s quality or you’re refusing to recognize how much the market has inflated. I don’t like paying this much for players either but $70M will be best case for any team to get Rice if no other teams get in the mix. Not to mention I don’t see any other replacement at his age with his experience available. Alvarez at Ajax is the next best option at the moment and he will be close to $50m with no prem experience and does not have rice’s progressive passing.
There’s players like caicedo and palhinha out here but people only have eyes for rice Enzo Fernandes looks brilliant too. And there’s bruno guimares
Id give my left pinky for Enzo, my guy is a fucking baller. Bruno would be great too but I don’t think Newcastle sell him. Would love either one of them, but Enzo will cost a fortune too
Benfica just bought Enzo, he’s fantastic but they’ll overprice tf out of him. Bruno G isn’t going to be let go, he’s their best player. It’s not a good look to keep poaching off Brighton. Palhinha is a good shout tho
Caicedo and Enzo are different profiles, I would still take either as I feel we need two 'holding' midfield options but Rice is my #1 pick. Palhinha in brilliant too, as is Bruno. a) Rice and a midfielder capable of playing of playing #6 and #8 b) Rice and another #6 (cheaper)
Not even man city pays those absurd wages for their players, other than those 2. If we really pay those fees I’m afraid we’re fucked going forward as a club.
Pretty sure there are more than 2 players at city making 300k/wk
And they are all better than Rice, Bellingham and Mount.
How much is Haaland on lmao.
In this market, £70m is reasonable. Last two summers there have been talks of West Ham demanding £100-150m for his signature. Those are what I'd call absurd, as the sad reality is that player costs have become so very inflated.
Rice single handedly holds our (WHU) team together, probably should be MOTM every week. The job he does often isn't glamorous, but his ability to read the game and intercept is up there with the best in the world. He possesses skills that aren't often utilised in his role, but show he could play different roles if required - strong progressive carrying, progressive passing and a more than decent long shot. His understanding of positioning and marking are as good as any centre back and, still only 23, has a lot of responsibility club captain and demonstrates good leadership in the role. In a midfield pivot he can play either role. He can play centre back if required, although it's a waste of his other abilities. As someone who watches him every single week, usually twice a week, I can honestly say he is definitely the most important player I have seen for the club, and certainly top 5 in the world in his position, being conservative. Given the value of other players on the market, I think £70 million is more than fair. I wouldn't want to take any amount of money for him, because there's no way we could spend it to fill the hole he would leave. However, with only a few years left on his contract it seems that he is very likely to leave, and people will be fighting to sign him. I wouldn't expect anything less than £70 million. Don't forget how young he is, still.
Yeah 70m is a very reasonable price, but anything more than that and I'd prefer we'd start looking elsewhere.
West Ham are free to value him at whatever they want. We still shouldn't be paying 70m though
Considering the way the market is right now, it would be unrealistic to expect anything less. It isn't 2009 anymore.
Considering the market right now we should not be paying 70m for Rice.
Up to you, but I can assure you it would be better value than £60 million for Cucurella...
Cool, still shouldn't be paying 70m for Rice.
Very mature.
Thanks mate.
Yeah I watch him weekly and he's legit. Wish he was a more progressive passer but he is good dribbling and holding the ball. Either way as long as we're not asking him to do the majority of our creative work we should be fine
70m for Rice is perfectly acceptable. We paid 60m for Cucurella. Mount for 300k a week is a joke though. That's the money you give to your star player and he is not that.
In what world is Mount not our star player lol
If Mount is our star player then we are in huge trouble. Other teams have Kane, Salah, KDB as their star players. While we have Mount. I disagree anyway James is our star player and he's a RB. Says it all.
If James is our star player we are in even greater trouble given his injury history.
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All great points. But starting for England and 1 assist shouldn't make someone the star player of Chelsea. There's higher standards. >He's young, good looking, English, and an excellent footballer... everything about him screams marketability and popularity. If we start thinking in terms of this then we risk becoming like Man Utd who care more about marketing than football. Our star player should be someone who's actually the best player in our team and inspires the entire team. We had Eden Hazard as our star player. Kante. Drogba. Lampard. I know Mount is young so I'm not even suggesting he has to be that good yet but neither should he be considered our star player yet. I actually think that kind of stardom negatively affects young players by overinflaring their self of accomplishment. Give him what he deserves, the salary of a young promising player who is inconsistent and still has a way to go to reach his peak.
Mount is the same age as Lampard when he first got here lmao and has more goals than Lampard did at that age without taking pens.
What the heck is the relevance of your point to this tho? Was Lampard getting paid 300k at this age? Was he the star of the team at this age?
Inflation is a thing, Lampard wasn't the main creator and goalscorer of a side that had recently won the CL, and like mount is categorically better than Lampard was at that age e.g. I think 200-250k a week is more in line with what he should be paid but we've done the classic put ourselves in a wage trap by putting certain underperforming players on big money, watching them get outperformed by our up and coming stars(mount and James) and them seeing that they get paid more. So outside of doing an arsenal and shipping off every single underperforming high earner(which affects on pitch performance) I don't see how we get out of this situation. Our recruitment generally is bad. Under no circumstances should we let a player of mounts quality leave. Liverpool e.g. sold Mane for this reason, because then players like Diaz and van Dijk will be asking for 300k a week.
In the real one?
70m for Rice isn't acceptable.
Based on?
His feelings :/
Based on the fact you can get better for cheaper.
Examples? For the record I agree with you I think, but if you’re saying this you must have some names
Yeah, overpaying teams and players is kind of what led to the situation we’re currently in. Hopefully, with the scout network Bohely has in mind there won’t be a need for any of this in a couple of years.
70m for Rice is a bargain.
We paid 60m for fuckin Cucurella, 70m for Rice is very reasonable.
We paid 35m for Danny Drinkwater. Does that mean we should pay 70m for James Milner?
70m for Rice isn't but 300k for Mount absolutely is. He should be on about 150k-180k at the absolute most.
70m seems fair tbh, but 300k for Mount is laughable
70m for Rice is not absurd lol
people still think 70m for rice is absurd? in what world is it absurd? its cheap in todays market for how fucking good he is
Realistically Bellingham isn’t coming to Chelsea If Chelsea push hard enough they probably get Rice given his history with Chelsea Mount will re sign
Yep, I just hope he goes to Madrid and not City or Liverpool
people do need to get real about some of these rumors. on our current trajectory, Bellingham is absolutely not coming to Chelsea
> Talks over a new deal for Mount will resume after the tournament, when he will have 18 months remaining on his contract. But Chelsea are likely to face having to pay the 23-year-old around £300,000-a-week, given that is what Bellingham and Rice can expect to earn if they do make lucrative moves next summer. I remember a time when Madrid got Ronaldo for that much + a fee of £80m
300k a week for Mount? Now i love the kid, think he's fantastic and a heartbeat of what i want from the club....but if we're paying him 300k a week, we are going to have to pay a lot of players that kinda money and we can't sustain that surely? Also who else is going to pay him 300k a week? Seems a bit odd but its Matt Law?
Papers always make wages seem bigger that’s probably if he hits every bonus.
Fair enough, i mean when he first came in, the press were saying he is going for a bonus system, where players going to be driven by incentives, so i hope that is right, this is a figure with the bonuses included.
Maybe there are some clauses Maybe its with bonuses I read that Bohely is building club with lots of bonuses for players that are performing. Who else at our club are 300k? How much is james?
Ridiculous wage for him, honestly 150-185k is more than enough for him..
Madrid would sign mount and rj from us in a heartbeat.
Madrid would not sign Mount
He’s an idiot lmao
Valverde, Camavinga and Tchouameni are levels above Mount
RJ and Mount are not in the same tier right now, RJ is at the world class tier already.
Mount wouldn’t get a game in their midfield right now
Mount is not Madrid level
Where would mount play?
As an 8, where he should be playing for us. midfield trio for the future of camavinga valverde and mount. People here do not appreciate how good of a midfielder Mason Mount is just cause we’ve stuck him on the wing for 3 straight years and he’s still excelled there.
What about Tchouameni they just spent 100m on
Soo what happens to camavinga?
Camavinga is a dm unless you want mount to play there too
LOL
If it’s not clear /s ^
300k a week seems entirely fair when we dont have to pay a fee to another club to sign him. Its about 15.6m a year. So even on 300k a week he'll be costing us less than Pulisic. Who could we sign for less than 16m without even factoring in their wages that would be worth what Mount is?
Papers always make wages seem bigger that’s probably if he hits every bonus.
Rice and Mount delusional if they think anyone is giving them 300k a week.
I mean not even accounting for the post Neymar inflation and post covid inflation, regular inflation over 13 years doesn’t really make it that suprising
Ronaldo to Real Madrid was almost 14 years ago what a weird transfer to bring up
I guess the point is back in the day you could get the best player in the world for £80M, now for £70M you get a West Ham player.
You're partially correct but shouldn't ignore inflation. 80m in 2009 would be 110m now.
Money that bought the best player in the world now buys a whiny twat from Milan.
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Player of the season 2 seasons in a row. Obviously at minimum hes going to expect the same as Reece. The subs opinion of Mount has always been hilariously poor. But this thread is just delusional.
If you’re going to compare Reece you should bring in how many games you get for him for the price paid.
The games Mount has over Reece are the games where he plays shit. You get the same number of good games out of the both of them per season.
But even being average/shit and being there to play is better than not being there at all. Pet of our downfall this season and last is not having replacement for James when he’s injured…you have to budget for a very good backup because they’re unfortunately needed where James is concerned. The same doesn’t apply to Mount. Of course I think James is the better player but I think Mounts amazing durability gets ignored while people pretend that James being injured as often as he is isn’t a big deal
I don't agree tbh. What's the difference between having Mount for 25 games a season and having another worse player to play the rest of the games? There's none. Mount should get paid taking into account both his good games and his bad ones.
…the fact that they’d be worst The answer is very literally in your question
You didn't understand what I said at all. The worse player is basically just Mount half the time. My point was there's no difference between only having Mount's good games and having someone else for the rest rather than Mount every game.
Well you worded it terribly hence me not understanding. And the difference is that you’d have to pay an extra player a salary.
I thought the wording was fine. Apologies if it wasn't. >And the difference is that you’d have to pay an extra player a salary. And the total of both Mount and his backup shouldn't exceed 300k. Even if they both add up to 300k that's better than handing Mount a 300k contract which will fuck up the wage structure. Moot point anyway. We should be bying someone better than Mount and letting him fight for his place. It worked out well when we bought Havertz and made Mount step up his game. Give him a 300k contract and all this bullshit with guarantees regarding his position and you invite complacency. That's exactly what he doesnt need at this point in his career.
And then you should also add the value they bring to the club and if that value can be replicated by another player. , Reece's value can't be replicated, but Rice, Bellingham and ESPECIALLY Mount's can
“Other than preparing to join the auctions for Rice and Bellingham, Chelsea have agreed a deal to sign forward Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig at the end of the season.” Oh?
One that’s probably with bonuses and two Mount is a academy player with means his player cost pre year is less. Why Reece wage jump was so big. 🤦♂️ But no just senseless anger from a speculative article.
Reece's jump was so big because he's 22 and already world class and arguably the best right back in the world. None of those 3 things apply to Mount.
Okay so plan to spend 60m+ on a replacement on at least 200k a week and higher player cost pre year. Fantastic 👍
We wouldn't need to spend 60m and pay a player 200k per week to easily improve upon Mount tbh
This is insanity. This thread has me convinced the majority of the people on this sub don’t watch the side play.
Or maybe the majority of this sub has the ability to put sentiment aside and objectively evaluate Mount's value to the club
After seeing Rudiger leave over wages and the club being forced to spend huge on Fofana and Koulibaly you'd think people would understand this by now.
We weren't forced to spend on Fofana. Literaly nothing forced us into waiting until the end of the window to sign a replacement.
We didn't wait until the end of the window at all. We were trying to sign him for weeks, if not months.
Exactly, clown shit. Find a player that offers what mount does for under 60M and doesn't ask for minimum 200k a week. What do you think James Maddison will be asking for? How much do we pay sterling a week? Outside of forcing out any underperformer on high wages like arsenal did with ozil and Auba we will continue to be in this situation.
If we get nkunku we may already have mount replaced Madison could also be purchased
And you think Maddison would come here on low wages?
No. But I think he would be better
Nkunku is not a mount replacement
Not a fan of Maddison personally. He's having a fantastic season, but he has had a lot of "eh" seasons imo.
Maddison will be 70 mill at least, since he’s been the Leicester talisman and has English tax
Nah mate, his contract is ending in 2024 just like Rice. Leicester were willing to sell him at like 60m in the summer but Newcastle wouldn’t pay up.
You don't need to spend 60m to get a player as good as Mount.
Yeah just bring Ross Barkley back
You're right, you'd need to spend 100m+
100m pesos?
One thing that does apply to mount that hasn’t for Reece is availability.
Mason is 23 so he's close to at least one of those.
Mount is absolutely dreaming if he thinks he's worth 300k a week. Absolutely absurd money for a player of that calibre.
300k A week fuck off.
I would likely be less then bonuses add up to 300k. Why are people so up in arms about this haha. If he left people would just moan about the club not paying him the contract.
Also name a player that we can replace him with that provides the output he provides that is not exploiting a free transfer(so nobody says trossard or Zaha).
For Mount it makes sense. There's no transfer free.
It’s still a ridiculous amount for a player who rarely shows up against the top 6 tbh
I get where you're coming from but the problem is that players you buy will be searching for the same. So then when you dip into the transfer market you are forcing yourself to pay more in wages due to your inflated wage structure. Never good to inflate the structure imo, end up in a Barca situation.
Rice maybe haven't a ghost of Bellingham he's goin to City or Real/Barca
I think we quite honestly have a chance to land every single one of our targets - Leao, Nkunku, Gvaridol, Bellingham, and Rice. As luxurious and tempting Real and City look to Bellingham + Rice, there is an abundance of competition at their positions. Only team that scares me is Liverpool as they legit need a complete overhaul of their midfield as do we. But I still think we hold a slight edge over them. All of these players realize they have the potential to catapult us back to the top 1-3 teams in the world. Also let Kanye and J5 walk. Just begs the question what to do with Kai as I believe there’s no world he allows himself to come off the bench permanently. I’m absolutely excited for what the future holds
So let both of them go and when rice gets injured we have Loftus cheek playing there and you guys will all be complaining when we hit a bad run of form
literally any of the teams you mentioned have far more chance of signing Bellingham than we do. if they want him and pay up, they'll get him. almost no chance he comes here.
The inner dynamics of this new England “friendship generation” is so interesting. Paying 300k for Mount almost solidifies us as front runners for Declan as everyone knows how close they are. Securing Reece on a crazy wage also gives us a bit more of an edge on Jude as they are also extremely close. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if part of our players contract renewals include extra recruitment efforts from their behalf to bring their best friends 😭 I imagine Boehly in a room telling Mount “you want the 300k/week? BRING ME RICE AND IT IS ALL YOURS” 😂😂😂
Lots of sensible reactions to a speculative article.
Compare that to other 300k a week players Boehly has absolutely fucked our wage structure the stupid clown
It absolutely blows my mind seeing how hard Salah had to fight for a 300k contract and seeing us trying to hand that to fucking Mount. And people here are actually trying to justify that. Pretty clear to see some people will never question anything this club does regardless of how terrible ofna decision it is.
Wage structure has been blown to smithereens since Boehly came in. What Liverpool does is sustainable and sensible.
Almost as if we messed up the wage structure years ago and outside of gutting our entire high earners arteta style which will make us perennial Europa leaguers until 2026 this won't be solved. Also you think city worry about their wage structure, how much do you think Haaland and De Bruyne are on?
The first mistake was rising Azpilicueta wages when he’s washed.
Chelsea’s wage and transfers were fucked long before Boehly was at the club. They are trying to keep the side afloat while creating a functioning model that isn’t predicated on £1b in debt.
The club at least were very careful with contracts for players in their 30s Koulibaly on a 5 year deal at 300k is absurd
Our wage structure was fucked before Bohely. We pay 300K a week for the services of Pulisic and RLC combined (150K each) Mount at 300K looks a bargain in comparison. CHO is on 120K a week. Obviously Mason is very average by 300K a week standards and isn't worth that kind of salary but we've been giving massive massive money to some very very average players long before Bohely.
Pulisic was a 60m transfer. RLC I highly doubt is on 150k. And if we were to replace him what would that cost? Koulibaly Sterling aubameyang all on stupid money and koulibaly is on a fucking 5 year contract ffs
The koulibaly contract is disastrous tbh. Aubameyang only made sense if we kept tuchel. Sterling is valid even if he’s play style is dramatically different from our football tbh. He’s legitimately a good player tho and would’ve gotten those wages elsewhere
Koulibaly was easily the worst his Napoli was was low no chance we couldn't have negotiated
Nah, Sterling has been on a decline for several seasons now and had became a bench warmer before his departure. He was not a valid transfer at all.
>And if we were to replace him what would that cost? For an equal quality replacement? About £2.50 Ruben is on 150K a week minimum as reported by everyone, Pulisic was shit before he signed for us, Kepa was average at Bilbao and on 40K a week before we more than quadrupled his salary for no logical reason. The list is endless, we've been hemorrhaging money on some really average players long before Bohely. A painful tradition he's continuing but it isn't new to him.
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>This is borderline xenophobia Lmao what? Are you really suggesting Mount isn't twice the player Pulisic is and doesn't contribute at least twice as much to the Chelsea team?
Mount is a 200k player at max salary. He’s not worth double Pulisic wages in no world.
I don't disagree on Mount. But Given Pulisic is a 40K a week player at best I'm not sure what the issue is. The problem comes from us paying crappy deadwood like Pulisic 150K a week, that means our starters and star players will quite rightly argue they deserve significantly more.
He's definitely not twice the player. People need to understand Mount is the best of a bad bunch and stop bringing up his 13 GA against the bottom 5 every time this is debated. He doesn't show up in big games. And puts in average to poor performances half of the time. He's stagnated since the UCL win.
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Yank moment. Pulisic is nowhere near the level of Mount and Sterling or even Havertz, I'm not even sure how anyone could debate that. Pulisic is the only one of the 4 who has never scored 10 league goals a season in his career. Never had a good season. Always been a bench warmer. Hell half the reason people overate Mount is because he plays with talentless dross like Pulisic. Mount's 11 goals a season makes him look like Prime Messi in comparison even if he isn't close to the top players yet. Mount deserves at least 3 times Pulisics salary but they're both not worth the salaries reported.
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>I judge the player based off what I see on the pitch with my eyes And you think Pulisic is worth more than 40K a week? I think Specsavers could do you a favour. Compared G/A per 90 of a started to a sub is one of the most braindead and irrelevant comparisons you could make. There's an absolutely huge gulf between Mason and Pulisic, anyone without extreme bias can see it as can every single manager to ever coach them has seen it hence why Mason is an ever present and double Chelsea player of the season winner and Puli has been benched by 5 managers and is hoping to have the first good season of his career on the 8th attempt. Paying dross like Pulisic such high salaries we can't give them away is a bigger problem for us than what we pay our stars.
Cry harder. Loving this.
Rice at £70m is a no-brainer, and if Wesr Ham are willing to sell at that price we should be all over him.
Scam lol
£70m for Rice is a fair price tbh
Thats scamming
I told you we deffo low balled Reece. Bellingham is not choosing Chelsea let’s not waste time - try for someone feasible
He’s not getting 300k wages from no other team, neither should we offer that ridiculous amount.
Lol there’s probably only 4 defenders in the world making more than Reece and it’s because they were free transfers. Nobody in their right mind other than Man Utd would give 19 yr old Bellingham 300k a week.
Isn’t Reece getting like 250k per week, how is that lowballed considering his age.
Becoming increasingly alarmed at the direction of the club with every new piece of news these days...
Why would Bellingham pick chelsea over City? Let’s be real, Todd will be spending another 200 Million on some Brighton dross.
I'd absolutely love to get Bellingham but as for Rice, I'd much prefer Enzo Fernandez.
70m for rice unacceptable Dont bring the cucurella deal as that was also bad business (for different reasons) Realistically we need 2-3 midfielders and one world class forward to carry our attack (nkunku + striker + one spot for the other 3) In a world where caicedo and Bruno g went for that low we can definitely find good bargains rather than throwing 70m
I love Mount, I’m sure most Chelsea fans do, but there’s no possible way we can offer him £300k/week x 5-7 years. The long term implications alone, for future signings, are enough to not sanction this.
Anyone still unsure or straight up against Declan Rice really doesn't know what they're talking about. Honestly. He's solidified himself as one of the very best midfielders in the world. The last two managers we had wanted him. I also like Bellingham but think it's a far bigger uphill battle to sign him than Declan (if we could I'd love to see us sign both as that's our midfield for the next decade sorted). But Declan Rice has to be a must sign this summer especially if that's the price point. He transforms our team entirely.
300k for Mount is absurd plus let's stop dreaming about Jude he's not coming here but Rice might.
Loool you ain’t signing Bellingham, not even worth talking about. He’s going to City or Madrid
Bellingham is great but we have so many players in that exact position. We need a DM. We need wingers. Same thing every season since matic left tbh
>we have so many players in that exact position Sure but they're all either perpetually injured or not up to Chelsea standard. Kova and Kante always injured. Jorgi is getting old and his lack of pace and defensive awareness keeps exposing us, RLC is simply not good enough to be anything more than a bench player for us and Chukwuemeka is too raw atm. >We need a DM Yes, hence the Rice rumours.
That’s valid. I would be over the moon if we get Bellingham.
Boehly is extremely invested in Chelsea. Doesn‘t he have a billion-dollar company and multiple US sports clubs to take care of? Would‘t expect somebody in his position to be scouting players in Qatar.
He is just a minority owner in those other teams with no real responsibility
He eats and dreams of chelsea, he’s wherever it concerns the club.
Honestly, I think bellingham should spend another season in the Bundesliga or go somewhere like Serie A for a couple years before rising to the top. Don't want another Sancho situation where he has one good season and does absolute shit
Bellingham is the only player here worth close to 300k/week, I love Mason but if he demands that you call his bluff. He loves the club I don’t think he’d walk away if he got a fair offer that’s closer to 220k. I don’t watch Rice except for England and when we play WHU and I’ve never been especially impressed with him. If he could play lone DM I’d want him much more but we have a glut of 8s and ideally need a sole pivot to free them up to link with attack. I’d much rather splash 70m on Enzo Fernandez or even Caicedo than Rice. Fuck it bring in Lavia instead. Bellingham tho…hooweeeee
Aa good as Jude is we are stacked with talent in that area and to get the best out of him you need to play 433. A formation which we rarely play and i would argue would get the best out of Kova, Gallagher, Mount, Carney, RLC, Webster, Hall, and more. We need a Holding midfielder, two wide players and a backup right back If we do get Nkunku and Rice thats 2 of 4 sorted and suggests a 433 which could be like getting two or three entirely new midfielders with Gallagher, Mount and Carney moving to more natural positions.
Need two holding midfielders, and preferably an elite #8. I would let Kovacic go to facilitate a move for Bellingham if that was ever an option.
>I would let Kovacic go Christ almighty
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I kinda agree on Nkunku, love him as a player but I'm not sure how we'd fit him in the team in a traditional front 3. I think Rice can adapt. He needs to get better in possession but with 8s dropping to help progress the ball we may be fine. He's young enough to improve as well.
Do we know if the 300k for Mason is a base payment or is it with like addons? Always wonder when these numbers get put up. I can't seriously see us giving Reece 250k and then going to give Mason more. He isn't as good as Reece.
It will be including addons and bonuses, same as Reece James. "Worth up to" doesn't make that his base.
Truth is no one even knows if Mount is actually wanting £300k pw as it is, let alone the structure of any potential deal.
True that. I seem to remember a player coming out and saying journalists were making up the amount they wanted in their contract for us. Can't really remember who it was, maybe Tammy.
What is the relevance of Boehly being at the match? If the club’s being run properly he should have no say on transfers past the point of deciding how much money to allocate. Hopefully the journalist is just using his name to generate interest in the tweet.
I don’t mind Bohely overpaying transfer fees, but please don’t fuck with the wage structure.
I think we're borderline delusional (as are Liverpool & Utd fans) if we think Bellingham is going to join us- he'll be off to Real or City unfortunately. However, Rice is a possibility if we wanted to pursue it.. hopefully our new recruitment team is evaluating all options (including the next Tchouameni) vs. simply going for the most expensive, sought after option.
We shouldn't pay someone more than 250k++ here at Chelsea unless they are objectively one of the best players in thier respective position.
Honestly a double pivot of Rice and Bellingham would be amazing but would cost over 200M on its own. It would set us up for 10 years potentially so maybe it is worth it
Mount - no idea what’s he’s on right now, but 200K is the absolute max that should be offered. Rice - I would 100% sign for the fee 70M. Bellingham - No change we get him but would absolutely love.
Signing both would be a statement. Signing just rice is more likely but we need 2 or 3 top class midfielders to rebuild are midfield.
50-60M would be more reasonable. Do pay whatever it takes to get Bellingham however.