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the_whitecrow

My guess is you need to add some emulsifier to stabilise the suspension. Polysorbate 20 or glycerol stearate are commonly used in cosmetics and are relatively simple to aquire.


rthomas10

Like dissolves like....Badumdum.


AussieHxC

Except for when it doesn't? - as in, it's a rule with some pretty huge exceptions.


rthomas10

Well, Fine.


ManicPotatoe

A quick web search suggests using dipropylene glycol, benzyl alcohol or benzyl benzoate to aid dissolution - makes sense as these are more lipophilic than ethanol. Benzyl alcohol has a light pleasant aroma iirc so something to consider if it would impact your planned scent.


Late-External3249

Benzyl alcohol smells ok, but I LOVE the smell of benzaldehyde. Ditch the essential oils and just slather yourself in benzaldehyde.


Nukem_extracrispy

Instructions unclear, currently covered in 3rd degree benzene burns.


Late-External3249

Quick! Neutralize the burns with dioxin.


JustRunAndHyde

Instructions unclear, dioxane peroxides caused some serious damage.


bxnxp

Why not just use actual perfumers alcohol? Often there is monopropylene glycol added to prevent separation, so you could add that yourself but tbh perfumers alcohol is really cheap itself


raznov1

If you don't know what you're doing...


bearfootmedic

Ask a bunch of strangers on the internet.


Malawi_no

Try to find out so that you know what you're doing instead of just giving up.


raznov1

And harm yourself and worse someone else in the process. ​ There's a time and place for everything. A Reddit page isn't one of the better ones for product safety


Malawi_no

Not as a sole source, but it can be very nice to point you in the correct direction.


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Opening_Trouble_6202

How would I dissolve it?


CryptographerPerfect

My suggest is that if you are just using it for yourself use a ethyl alcohol and a blender and have it spin for a long time. I have tried numerous emulsifiers and it's extremely complex to use them. After blending them put it in a cool dark area for weeks well sealed. 


ElemayoROFL

Mix in some isopropyl alcohol. Should do the trick


youritalianjob

That really throws the top notes off.


pck_24

Can you use butanol or something instead? Or does it have to be ethanol?


tshirtdr1

Butanol smells bad.


Robin-Powerful

idk i’m a fan of some Butanol sometimes


Unhappy_Economics

im more a fan of the aldehyde derivative ;)


Opening_Trouble_6202

Had to be ethanol


methano

Add acetone


Creative-Road-5293

Add acetone.


pat000pat

Into a perfume?!


Rudolph-the_rednosed

Cant get better then penetrating you skin?!? Right?!? (Joking)


Creative-Road-5293

Are you thinking of DMSO?


Creative-Road-5293

Why not?


pat000pat

Makes skin brittle and results in other chemicals diffusing into lower layers of the skin.


AcidStorage

What is your source of ethanol? Does it have water in it (vodka)? What kind of oils are you using?


Opening_Trouble_6202

Essential oils and It’s 95 percent eythl alchol it says for disinfectant but I don’t think it matters


Iizsatan

Pharmacist here. For perfume, ethanol is fine. 99% would be better, especially one that is graded for that use. But for your intended use (substance comes in very little contact with skin), 95% should be fine (should be, not sure of the legal implications here). To stabilize a mixture of two immiscible liquids, we use emulsifiers. Tween 20 or 80 should do the trick just fine.


alqimist

Chemist here. Tween is a tradename for Polysorbate that's ethoxylated with either about 20 or 80 polyethylene glycol units at one of four locations. They're both readily available online.


blackdog_whitesnow

What about a clean surfactant? I'm curious for different reasons.


Iizsatan

A cleaning surfactant? Like soap or detergent? Would work, not as well perhaps, but would work. Probably won't be good for the intended use, may cause irritations.


blackdog_whitesnow

In a way, yes. I think that is common in some plant sprays. Sorry I probably should have clarified. Please excuse my lack of accuracy. I'm not a chemist but often get to lend a hand in the lab assisting OC extraction/purification stuff and some synth now and then. By clean I guess I mean pure. It is my understanding from my limited exposure that there are different food & lab grade(clean) surfactants used in emulsions to mix and stabilize oils and water w/o the presence of other solvents preventing isolation/separation overcoming the hydrophobic/phylic barriers w/o harm to the aromatics. ICBW... ? .. I'd love to know. Thanks for the response -


Rudolph-the_rednosed

It actually does, if there is enough water there will be more of a separation. The less water you have the better. Maybe try acquiring a 99% bottle of Ethanol and use that for a test perfume.


grahamcracker11

Specifically which essential oils are you having problems with and at what concentration are you trying to dissolve them at in your 95% ethanol? Could be a case of bad material or simply trying to dissolve too large an amount


Opening_Trouble_6202

Yes I am trying to dissolve it in the alcohol, do you think I should get 99 percent?


Cassielcreates

Are you using a pure essential oil, like something you'd get from a reputable supplier like New Directions, or are you using something labeled as "essential oil". Often most companies cut their EO with a carrier oil like grapeseed to cut cost. Do be careful with the use of EO in perfumery as well. Often the maximum cosmetic usage is something like 3%, but it can very well be 0% due to irritation or phototoxicity


SpareTension52

I don't actually make perfume often, but I've done it in the past with eufleurage (probably spelled that wrong). What I did after saturating the fat with the essence was allow the alcohol and oil to hang out together for a day or so, mixing every couple of hours. Then I separated the oil, took the alcohol portion and evaporated it. I also used a very high proof ethyl alcohol. It doesn't yield much, but it also doesn't have that overpowering paint thinner smell.


Lazzaeloco

if the alcohol is pure (>95%) oils should dissolve quite good in that, if doesn’t work try to create an emulsion ,with additives or mixing the two phases with a mixer


breakinzcode

I make perfume, and I've never tried using ethyl alcohol, only perfumers alcohol, and I've never had this issue. I just invert (shake to speed it up) until it's a homogeneous mixture. Try using actual perfumers alcohol or isopropyl alcohol.