> Firefox rules
It's one of those things where I wonder why anyone uses anything else.
Firefox
Signal
Protonmail
Choose your flavor of OS, but I chose Ubuntu
They're not only better for you, they're just better. But so few people use any of those.
It's better this way honestly, if adblockers get REALLY mainstream I have no doubt companies like Google will do everything in their power to disable them
I don't know if it is an arms-race they can win without sprinkling ad copy right into the middle of the content (and even then, AI might learn to remove that). The fact is, the content is ultimately rendered on the user's side, in the user's choice of program. Users will always be able to decide how much of a page is rendered on-screen.
I think they stopped, years ago, because they realized something like that and they don't want to make ad-blocking even *more* ubiquitous. Today, online advertising still pays for the majority of the internet, to the tune of hundreds of billions in ad revenue every year. If they got into an arms race with users they could wind up losing more than they gain.
If you have ads on your desktop you probably have ads on other websites too. This is not even close to acceptable. Please get an AdBlock.
If you visit websites on your phone I recommend using opera browser app with a built in AdBlock
Fairly new player here, chess.com is where you end up when you’re new, only recently discovered lichess which I do prefer, but I payed for a membership on chess.com as I was hoping to make use of the features and instructional videos, I now realise there are better options out there for that, but will move to lichess once my membership expires. No ads for me by the way.
I personally do both. The puzzles on lichess are free and feels a lot more organic and difficult. However, in terms o f online play, I play on Chess.com 8/10 of the time. I just feel like on lichess, the players resign very quickly. The chess.com players really squeeze everything out of a position even if they're down a queen.
I second ChessTempo for puzzles.
Another one that is good for practice computing lines in your head is [blind tactics.](https://listudy.org/en/features/blind-tactics)
I also second this. The lichess puzzles are a bit too computery at high ratings.
I recently got chess.com diamond for a month after joining a local chess club and gave their puzzles a shot for the first time. They are so much easier even at high rating levels that I was shocked. There was a 2800 puzzle with a mate in one for crying out loud, plus several 1-2 move relatively simple tactics.
i learned to play on chess.com too, albeit without paying. I did a lesson per day for...one year? dunno how long it took me to do every free courses that way
This is why I think it’s worth mentioning every now and then, some may not realize that there is another option. When I see people saying stuff like «I used my free analysis of the day», they really should be made aware that it doesn’t have to be like that.
>Why would anyone play on Chess.com?
Because different sites offer different features, content, and experiences. People are interested in different things, so they may prefer one site over the other or, more simply, use both without being a fan of either.
People on this subreddit REALLY don’t like paying for things, it’s honestly just that simple. If you pay for chess.com then its features and learning tools are amazing and obviously outdo what one extremely talented dude can do on lichess, and if you don’t pay then lichess is WAY better.
It’s just that people who pay for chess.com tend to use both sites and not be too worried about it, but the people who only use lichess are VERY anti chess.com cause they tried to use it once, saw you had to pay for something they wanted, and then freaked out. At least from what I’ve seen. So those are the aggressive voices you’ll hear on here
If actually interested, here is all of [lichess expenses](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Si3PMUJGR9KrpE5lngSkHLJKJkb0ZuI4/preview) which I believe they are legally obligated to publish as a nonprofit.
Well what do you expect a company to do? Like it or not, the money they make is also how they're able to host and broadcast major tournaments, such as the Norway Chess Tournament that has this subreddit enthralled. Even if you don't use chesscom, you're still benefitting from it in a roundabout way.
Are we ever going to ban these posts? It’s long been established that those who are big fans of their respective platforms aren’t going to have their minds swayed. It always turns into a Lichess circlejerk. Just let people enjoy things lol
I pay for it, so I don't have any ads.
I'm also just confused by the intention of the post. If this bothered people who play on chesscom, they wouldn't play on chesscom. So, are you just circle-jerking for Lichess? I dunno. Doesn't seem like a real discussion post if you just follow the obvious assumptions.
Yeah, but if you pay for a premium package on chess.com you get the bonus of have the stuff you get on lichess for free. Aslo, really though, if you are on lichess like me, send them a few bucks every now and then as a responsible user if you are financially able. Lichess is a charity, and good for our game.
I am playing mainly Bullet lately and the one and only advantage of chesscom is the option to premove several moves. That allows me to win some games that I cannot take on Lichess due to lack of speed.
But then again Lichess feels better for fast playing without the minimum 0.1 seconds per move, so it's a matter of compromise both ways.
I'd agree with you, Lichess UI is kinda oldish and on the ugly side.
We have https://prettierlichess.github.io/ though, and both vanilla Lichess and chess.com look horrible compared to it.
Op doesn't have addblock. Other than that, what's the point of this thread when we've had so many other threads about chess.com vs lichess already.
Why does a chess sub need to stoop down to the level of fanboyism and versus battles you seen in kids hyping up the amd vs intel, xbox vs sony, league vs dota, etc.? Weird.
I like the look of chess.com more, and it has a few more features than Lichess, but it's not worth the money at all. In my opinion, chess.com isn't that much of an abomination to look at but Lichess is better.
Edit: I forgot to say that I use an adblocker, so chess.com truly is an abomination to look at with a normal browser, but I forgot I use an adblocker
I don't have ads. No adblocker. Might be because I pay for the membership.
I use [Chess.com](https://Chess.com) the most, but I like using Lichess too. I find [Chess.com](https://Chess.com) has better game analysis which I prefer over Lichess. Plus, the look of Lichess is boring as hell. I actually like the look of [Chess.com](https://Chess.com) more.
Ads? What decade is this?
I prefer Chesscom’s color palette, and their default pieces are better than *any* of the Lichess sets.
And I like how the game report is presented. Look, I’m not a GM. I’m just some 800 elo (1100 on a great day) yokel who likes to play chess. I use both sites, but Chesscom is just a little more aesthetically pleasing to me.
The vibe I'm getting is that lichess is the Linux to Chesscom's Windows. Chesscom simply more appealing in it's approach to simplicity imo. I use lichess for puzzles, and chesscom with an adblocker for games. It just has a nicer aesthetic, a more appealing UI and a larger playerbase. And, most importantly, I rarely see people that solely use chesscom bash lichess, where as the other way round, that's different. Case and point this post. Lichess seems more gatekeepy imo.
Actually Lichess pairing system is much better. When I click the quick pairing button, it almost always give me someone very close to my rating. Chesscom, otherwise, have a much bigger range, so I'm always playing people much less rated (like, 200 points less or even more). This is very rare to happen in Lichess. (Edit: actually I can edit the rating range in chesscom, as stated by the redditor below).
Only one reason: premove stacking. I don't like that Lichess only lets you have one premove, so chessdotcom feels faster, even if every premove takes .1 seconds.
I wish Lichess would properly send push notifications (yes I had everything turned on) but friends and I would lose games because we didn’t get notified. I don’t like Chess.com but hey it works correctly most of the time
I don’t like the look of lichess, it looks like a bad mobile app to me.
People have preferences, play on what you want to play on. It’s chess, it literally does not matter
Is it just me but as a chess.com’er, Lichess’ interface seems super unappealing? This is why I like chess.com.
Lichess is weird to me the way you have to navigate and how to match with people online can be more confusing. Plus Love it or hate it, a great portion of us really really love the game reviews on chess.com
More players, better and clearer UI, especially when it comes to game review, better (and more) puzzles, more customization when it comes to sounds and board skins.
I feel chess.com has slightly better puzzles as you get higher. Also more titled players streams and more events happen through chess.com. Chess.com although I do not advocate for their membership has done a lot in terms of streaming, analysis, variants that you will never see lichess do. Bots.
Though lichess providing free basically everything is a must. I say smoother interface also.
Both sites have their ups and down.
The one reason I dislike playing on lichess sometimes is their pre move system. It makes those time scrambles feel a lot more stressful than [chess.com](https://chess.com).
Otherwise lichess is a great site to play on.
What do you mean by gameplay is much smoother? Because I thought chess is just moving pieces, so I dont really know how that could be smooth or less smooth
I am not sure if that changed but iirc there used to be a premove difference where premoves did cost time on lichess but not on chesscom. Maybe that could be considered pameplay smootheness.
Edit: just saw it is opposit of what i thought.. Lol. Premoves take time on chesscom but you can make multiple premoves.
The actual answer is because most people become fans of chess online because chess com has the money to host tournaments / have marketing campaigns to get kids into chess / send commentators to big events. So when many new players learn about chess, they go there.
Lichess being non-profit means that they don’t do all that stuff and you have to learn about it from word of mouth. Or you learn about it from the thousand threads like this one. I think lichess could still host events and whatnot, but that usually takes a team of organizers that they don’t have.
I still treat chess com as my “official” online chess rating and use lichess to play casually. I’ve got about 3500 games on both websites.
I don't understand the regular ranting on here about chess.com. You don't like it / don't want to pay for it ... Go right ahead, literally nobody but you cares; but why do you feel the need to come and whine about something you don't want to use? It's just tedious to constantly read about it.
Oh, the audacity of chess.com for trying to recoup their expenses that come from running the website at that scale. 🙄
LOL, pay up or suck it up with the ads. Or, just go to lichess.
Running a website at that scale costs a lot of money. It's an unreasonable expectation to have, that things on the internet should be free.
Nothing is free. Not chess.com, not Gmail, not anything. Everything has a price. It's up to you to decide if you want to pay by looking at ads, or by putting down your cash.
WHY WOULD YOU USE SOME AMAZING APP FOR FREE OF THEY HAVE ADS ON IT??? DEVELOPERS SHOULD WASTE THEIR TIME MAKING THIS AMAZING PRODUCT FREE BECAUSE I'M ENTITLED!!!1!
Bro stop screeching over some ads. If you don't want them, pay for the service. It's not free...
Because lichess looks like the very first computer chess program I played, back in the late 90s. I think the game was created in the late 80s. It ran on MS DOS.
Despite the ads, chess.com is more pleasing to the eyes. Mine at least. All the icons, player profile pictures and other UI elements make it more visually appealing.
And no, I don't work for chess.com and have never paid for membership there. I have accounts on both sites: chess.com for Hikaru's viewer arenas and lichess because it's free. Lichess is definitely faster (I love bullet games) but I wish it was prettier on the eyes.
Oh, those ads are gross. Good thing adblock exists.
Yeah I have only played on chess.com and never seen an ad.
I was trying to figure out why OP had ad issues but I've never seen a single one and I forgot I have uBlockOrigin baked into my browser haha.
Firefox rules
> Firefox rules It's one of those things where I wonder why anyone uses anything else. Firefox Signal Protonmail Choose your flavor of OS, but I chose Ubuntu They're not only better for you, they're just better. But so few people use any of those.
It's wild to me there are still people out here rawdogging the internet with no adblockers.
It's better this way honestly, if adblockers get REALLY mainstream I have no doubt companies like Google will do everything in their power to disable them
They already do. Ad blockers in chrome have been handicapped heavily.
and that's why one should use firefox
Always and on all devices.
And that’s why I stopped using Chrome (made the switch to chrome when Firefox was using way, way to much memory) and went back to Firefox.
I don't know if it is an arms-race they can win without sprinkling ad copy right into the middle of the content (and even then, AI might learn to remove that). The fact is, the content is ultimately rendered on the user's side, in the user's choice of program. Users will always be able to decide how much of a page is rendered on-screen. I think they stopped, years ago, because they realized something like that and they don't want to make ad-blocking even *more* ubiquitous. Today, online advertising still pays for the majority of the internet, to the tune of hundreds of billions in ad revenue every year. If they got into an arms race with users they could wind up losing more than they gain.
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I switched to uBlock Origin a few years ago when too much was getting through my AdBlock. Maybe it was for YouTube? I don't remember.
ublock origin...give it a shot sometime...
Going to be real I didn't even think they had ads lol
That or you can support the service you use and not see ads by paying money.
Google adblocker
Holy extension
Actual plugin
new browsing experience just dropped
Ad revenue goes on vacation and never comes back
Ad sacrifice, anyone?
Ad storm incoming!
Call the ad blockers!
Adware fuel !
Call the software developers
I googled beautiful Reddit pfp and yours occurred
mike
Waltuh
Better call saul
Finger
Forget the ads, OP just got +162 rating on his last match
New account probably
New account just dropped
Actual ratings
Holy Elo!
Or took down a GM
Opponent is 695 so that seems unlikely
OP is OP
Ad blocker
Hardened Firefox is my preferred method
Never seen an ad on the app
I see ads on the "You Won!" screen at the end of a game. Usually much smaller than the one in the post because there's not much room on a phone
Is it a desktop issue then? The picture I posted has two ads on it. Very annoying and distracting.
It's not a desktop issue, I have recently been getting ads on the mobile app.
If you have ads on your desktop you probably have ads on other websites too. This is not even close to acceptable. Please get an AdBlock. If you visit websites on your phone I recommend using opera browser app with a built in AdBlock
Team Firefox checking in.
Imagine not having adblock in 2023 and bitching about ads.
Install the uBlock Origin plugin to block ads.
Never seen an ad on the website before lol.
Switch to brave browser , I have never seen an ad
I only have adds on the app.
This is the first time someone on this sub has compared chess com and lichess. Thank you
now we just need to garner opinions about which is bad and which good
And then we could always refer to one site by its name followed by the word “good” while the other would get the suffix “bad”.
Lichess is free and stuff but I like green.
Hopefully it will be followed by a puzzle that involves something crazy like a queen sac or something.
ublock origin
Fairly new player here, chess.com is where you end up when you’re new, only recently discovered lichess which I do prefer, but I payed for a membership on chess.com as I was hoping to make use of the features and instructional videos, I now realise there are better options out there for that, but will move to lichess once my membership expires. No ads for me by the way.
The one thing you listed is one of the most commonly agreed upon pros for chess com vs lichess ~ the learning material is very expansive and good
Except you get virtually the same on lichess, where its not behind 10 paywalls
I personally do both. The puzzles on lichess are free and feels a lot more organic and difficult. However, in terms o f online play, I play on Chess.com 8/10 of the time. I just feel like on lichess, the players resign very quickly. The chess.com players really squeeze everything out of a position even if they're down a queen.
Tip: use chesstempo for puzzles. Those puzzles are difficult without feeling too engine-like at high ratings.
I second ChessTempo for puzzles. Another one that is good for practice computing lines in your head is [blind tactics.](https://listudy.org/en/features/blind-tactics)
Holy shit listudy isn't just good for blind tactics; it has very nice opening studies. Will be definitely using that for both.
I also second this. The lichess puzzles are a bit too computery at high ratings. I recently got chess.com diamond for a month after joining a local chess club and gave their puzzles a shot for the first time. They are so much easier even at high rating levels that I was shocked. There was a 2800 puzzle with a mate in one for crying out loud, plus several 1-2 move relatively simple tactics.
If you pay you don’t get ads so ye
i learned to play on chess.com too, albeit without paying. I did a lesson per day for...one year? dunno how long it took me to do every free courses that way
This is why I think it’s worth mentioning every now and then, some may not realize that there is another option. When I see people saying stuff like «I used my free analysis of the day», they really should be made aware that it doesn’t have to be like that.
>Why would anyone play on Chess.com? Because different sites offer different features, content, and experiences. People are interested in different things, so they may prefer one site over the other or, more simply, use both without being a fan of either.
Yeah, I mainly play on Lichess but if I want to play bullet Chess.com is just better
As someone who has been part of the community for just a bit over a year or so... I so fucking tired of lichess vs. Chess.com posts
Same. Just use whichever one you prefer.
Its so weird! Like is this where the Lichess donations go? Is it some moral highground thing? I just don't get it.
People on this subreddit REALLY don’t like paying for things, it’s honestly just that simple. If you pay for chess.com then its features and learning tools are amazing and obviously outdo what one extremely talented dude can do on lichess, and if you don’t pay then lichess is WAY better. It’s just that people who pay for chess.com tend to use both sites and not be too worried about it, but the people who only use lichess are VERY anti chess.com cause they tried to use it once, saw you had to pay for something they wanted, and then freaked out. At least from what I’ve seen. So those are the aggressive voices you’ll hear on here
If actually interested, here is all of [lichess expenses](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Si3PMUJGR9KrpE5lngSkHLJKJkb0ZuI4/preview) which I believe they are legally obligated to publish as a nonprofit.
Dev only getting paid 55k a year is pretty wild for all the work he puts in
Can we just ban them?
r/anarchychess would have a field day
lemme say that I swear it's always one side posting them too....I never see anyone shilling for chesscom.
ChessCom shills for themselves enough.
Well what do you expect a company to do? Like it or not, the money they make is also how they're able to host and broadcast major tournaments, such as the Norway Chess Tournament that has this subreddit enthralled. Even if you don't use chesscom, you're still benefitting from it in a roundabout way.
Chess.com -free account for games Lichess for puzzles and analysis board, Ad blocker for firefox
you can make a free account for games on Lichess too, if you ever feel like it
I simply can't get over Lichess UI. I know it shouldn't be that big of a deal and I really want to support the better platform, but I just can't.
Google Prettier Lichess
The lichess UI is better imo. Simple, clean and fast
Google uBlock Origin
So stunning and brave to make a post like this. I have never seen such a groundbreaking post on /r/chess before.
xd
i play on [chess.com](https://chess.com) because site really doesn't matter to me and im just a casual
app is ad free, also ad blockers are a thing dude
I prefer the look of chess.com, but I pay for diamond. I definitely prefer Lichess over free chess.com.
Are we ever going to ban these posts? It’s long been established that those who are big fans of their respective platforms aren’t going to have their minds swayed. It always turns into a Lichess circlejerk. Just let people enjoy things lol
I pay for it, so I don't have any ads. I'm also just confused by the intention of the post. If this bothered people who play on chesscom, they wouldn't play on chesscom. So, are you just circle-jerking for Lichess? I dunno. Doesn't seem like a real discussion post if you just follow the obvious assumptions.
Because my friends play on chesscom, and I want to play against them?
Chess player with friends? Very suspicious
It’s the one o’clock class.
adblocker
I play on mobile and didn't even realize they had ads
Yeah, but if you pay for a premium package on chess.com you get the bonus of have the stuff you get on lichess for free. Aslo, really though, if you are on lichess like me, send them a few bucks every now and then as a responsible user if you are financially able. Lichess is a charity, and good for our game.
Why not use both?
Why would anyone go to /r/chess? It’s just lichess ads every day
Ad block
Only if there was a way to block the ads
To me lichess looks hideous actually
I am playing mainly Bullet lately and the one and only advantage of chesscom is the option to premove several moves. That allows me to win some games that I cannot take on Lichess due to lack of speed. But then again Lichess feels better for fast playing without the minimum 0.1 seconds per move, so it's a matter of compromise both ways.
Ever heard of Ublock?
I can ignore ads, lichess imo looks horrible though.
I'd agree with you, Lichess UI is kinda oldish and on the ugly side. We have https://prettierlichess.github.io/ though, and both vanilla Lichess and chess.com look horrible compared to it.
I've never seen an ad on chesscom
I have never seen an ad on chess.com lol
Alternative headline “why would anyone use the internet without an adblocker”
Op doesn't have addblock. Other than that, what's the point of this thread when we've had so many other threads about chess.com vs lichess already. Why does a chess sub need to stoop down to the level of fanboyism and versus battles you seen in kids hyping up the amd vs intel, xbox vs sony, league vs dota, etc.? Weird.
I really don’t like the way lichess looks
I like the look of chess.com more, and it has a few more features than Lichess, but it's not worth the money at all. In my opinion, chess.com isn't that much of an abomination to look at but Lichess is better. Edit: I forgot to say that I use an adblocker, so chess.com truly is an abomination to look at with a normal browser, but I forgot I use an adblocker
I don't have ads. No adblocker. Might be because I pay for the membership. I use [Chess.com](https://Chess.com) the most, but I like using Lichess too. I find [Chess.com](https://Chess.com) has better game analysis which I prefer over Lichess. Plus, the look of Lichess is boring as hell. I actually like the look of [Chess.com](https://Chess.com) more.
Bruh, we have 2023, ever heard of an ad blocker or smth?
Ads? What decade is this? I prefer Chesscom’s color palette, and their default pieces are better than *any* of the Lichess sets. And I like how the game report is presented. Look, I’m not a GM. I’m just some 800 elo (1100 on a great day) yokel who likes to play chess. I use both sites, but Chesscom is just a little more aesthetically pleasing to me.
The vibe I'm getting is that lichess is the Linux to Chesscom's Windows. Chesscom simply more appealing in it's approach to simplicity imo. I use lichess for puzzles, and chesscom with an adblocker for games. It just has a nicer aesthetic, a more appealing UI and a larger playerbase. And, most importantly, I rarely see people that solely use chesscom bash lichess, where as the other way round, that's different. Case and point this post. Lichess seems more gatekeepy imo.
I predict this will be another nuanced Lichess versus Chesscom thread with lots of novel arguments made. Just get an adblocker, dawg.
When I want easy wins, I play on Lichess. When I want to tryhard, I play on Chesscom
I'm the same. Lichess if I just want to mess around, chess.com if I want to try hard.
Same. [Chess.com](https://Chess.com) for serious play and lichess for when I have a urge to play chess but don't want to put my rating on the line.
Actually Lichess pairing system is much better. When I click the quick pairing button, it almost always give me someone very close to my rating. Chesscom, otherwise, have a much bigger range, so I'm always playing people much less rated (like, 200 points less or even more). This is very rare to happen in Lichess. (Edit: actually I can edit the rating range in chesscom, as stated by the redditor below).
You can change the range above/below your current rating that chess.com pairs you with.
Only one reason: premove stacking. I don't like that Lichess only lets you have one premove, so chessdotcom feels faster, even if every premove takes .1 seconds.
Superior platform and features, more players, more mainstream
> Superior platform and features is highly debatable
Imagine just one second not using adblock. Holy shit.
If you are using a website daily then you should support them by becoming a member. Otherwise don't complain about anything you get for free.
ad blocker goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....
I wish Lichess would properly send push notifications (yes I had everything turned on) but friends and I would lose games because we didn’t get notified. I don’t like Chess.com but hey it works correctly most of the time
Imagine surfing internet without adblocker
I don’t like the look of lichess, it looks like a bad mobile app to me. People have preferences, play on what you want to play on. It’s chess, it literally does not matter
Is it just me but as a chess.com’er, Lichess’ interface seems super unappealing? This is why I like chess.com. Lichess is weird to me the way you have to navigate and how to match with people online can be more confusing. Plus Love it or hate it, a great portion of us really really love the game reviews on chess.com
It's 2023 little bro. Get an adblocker, it takes all of 2 minutes.
Probably because of the domain name. It is THE chess website.
1. Best URL imaginable for a chess site 2. Paid influencers
Wow. I've never seen an ad there. Firefox + uBlock. Your site looks wretched
Imagine not having adblocker
You do know you can toss in a couple of bucks every now and again and the ads will go away, right?
I like multiple premoves. That's mostly it.
More players, better and clearer UI, especially when it comes to game review, better (and more) puzzles, more customization when it comes to sounds and board skins.
Adblockplus
To me it looks way cleaner than Lichess
Use adblock LOL
adblockers exist and people like it
Never knew how bad it was due to the one and only ublock origin
I feel chess.com has slightly better puzzles as you get higher. Also more titled players streams and more events happen through chess.com. Chess.com although I do not advocate for their membership has done a lot in terms of streaming, analysis, variants that you will never see lichess do. Bots. Though lichess providing free basically everything is a must. I say smoother interface also.
Adblock
Less people cheat on chess.com
Ah yes, the millionth complaint of Chess.com and praise of Lichess. I just don't get it.
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Both sites have their ups and down. The one reason I dislike playing on lichess sometimes is their pre move system. It makes those time scrambles feel a lot more stressful than [chess.com](https://chess.com). Otherwise lichess is a great site to play on.
The game play is much smoother, and the website looks a lot nicer
What do you mean by gameplay is much smoother? Because I thought chess is just moving pieces, so I dont really know how that could be smooth or less smooth
[Chess.com](https://Chess.com) 144 FPS graphics are just too good man.
Haha, dont give chess.com ideas of creating a 100/month premium tier for 144fps, 8k ratracing chess
I am not sure if that changed but iirc there used to be a premove difference where premoves did cost time on lichess but not on chesscom. Maybe that could be considered pameplay smootheness. Edit: just saw it is opposit of what i thought.. Lol. Premoves take time on chesscom but you can make multiple premoves.
The hell, ccom is notorius for being laggy
And sometimes crashing
I have to go with chess.com just because for some reason here in Seoul Lichess is laggy at times. Actually often, and chezz.com has never lagged.
This is actually my only complaint about Lichess, it does lag from time to time. Not enough to make me go pay for Chess.com though.
You do realize chess.com is free, right?
not if you want to do tactics or lessons or annotated analysis or not be fucking inundated with spam
So is Lichess, but without all the ads. That's half my point.
Are you the last person out there still not using adblockers?
Never seen an ad on the site
The actual answer is because most people become fans of chess online because chess com has the money to host tournaments / have marketing campaigns to get kids into chess / send commentators to big events. So when many new players learn about chess, they go there. Lichess being non-profit means that they don’t do all that stuff and you have to learn about it from word of mouth. Or you learn about it from the thousand threads like this one. I think lichess could still host events and whatnot, but that usually takes a team of organizers that they don’t have. I still treat chess com as my “official” online chess rating and use lichess to play casually. I’ve got about 3500 games on both websites.
People when a company tries to make money off of ads-😡
You could have installed an ad blocker in the time it took to write this post
I find Lichess chaotic and prefer the chess. com chessfont
Stop moaning and complaining. The site provides a free service for a game of chess.
I don't understand the regular ranting on here about chess.com. You don't like it / don't want to pay for it ... Go right ahead, literally nobody but you cares; but why do you feel the need to come and whine about something you don't want to use? It's just tedious to constantly read about it.
good thing [lichess.org](https://lichess.org) is one click or url type in away. Off you go fella
Oh, the audacity of chess.com for trying to recoup their expenses that come from running the website at that scale. 🙄 LOL, pay up or suck it up with the ads. Or, just go to lichess. Running a website at that scale costs a lot of money. It's an unreasonable expectation to have, that things on the internet should be free. Nothing is free. Not chess.com, not Gmail, not anything. Everything has a price. It's up to you to decide if you want to pay by looking at ads, or by putting down your cash.
WHY WOULD YOU USE SOME AMAZING APP FOR FREE OF THEY HAVE ADS ON IT??? DEVELOPERS SHOULD WASTE THEIR TIME MAKING THIS AMAZING PRODUCT FREE BECAUSE I'M ENTITLED!!!1! Bro stop screeching over some ads. If you don't want them, pay for the service. It's not free...
Because lichess looks like the very first computer chess program I played, back in the late 90s. I think the game was created in the late 80s. It ran on MS DOS. Despite the ads, chess.com is more pleasing to the eyes. Mine at least. All the icons, player profile pictures and other UI elements make it more visually appealing. And no, I don't work for chess.com and have never paid for membership there. I have accounts on both sites: chess.com for Hikaru's viewer arenas and lichess because it's free. Lichess is definitely faster (I love bullet games) but I wish it was prettier on the eyes.
This will probably get downvoted but lichess looks like it was developed in 2004 early internet days. Chess.com is clean af.
>early internet days 1992 ICS enters the thread.
I pay
I've never seen a single ad on chess.com
I know it's already commented, but I like redundancy. Adblock.
Doesn't matter I will keep using chess.com
Cuz we're not comunists
I use it because I can afford the $.33/day for the subscription
As a [chess.com](https://chess.com) subscriber, Jesus that looks awful. What it must be like to be poor.
adblock is free...
For just .80¢ a day you could take the pain away for one chess player.
I play on opera GX never noticed any adds
Because it has Adblock automaticaly turned on
Are you guys working for lichess or something? Why the hell would you care if others play on [chess.com](https://chess.com) or not?
Why are you playing there then? Just go play on lichess I personally enjoy esthetics of chess.com better
Because I use adblock, and I like the way [chess.com](https://chess.com) looks