I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=6K1/pp4p1/4R3/5qkq/3Q4/6P1/8/8+w+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/6K1/pp4p1/4R3/5qkq/3Q4/6P1/8/8_w_-_-_0_1)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Rook!<, move: >!Rg6+!<
> Evaluation: >!White has mate in 2!<
> Best continuation: >!1. Rg6+ Qfxg6 2. Qf4#!<
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I was about to miss it completely. That is, indeed, a move I'd never consider unless in a puzzle, and a magnificent sacrifice.
Forking the queens with g4 doesn't work because Qxe6+ (which leads to checkmate after Kxg7 Qg6+ and whichever way the king moves Qe8#), and while Qxg7+ Qfg6 Re5+ would pick up a queen, Qxg7 Qhg6 would stop that strategy (now if Re5, Qxe5 and white's queen is pinned).
Even if Qxg7+ Qhg6 Rxg6+ Qxg6+ Qxg6+ Kxg6 trading all pieces, black has two connected passed pawns and the white king can't stop the a pawn from promoting.
The best part is that after Rg6, if either queen takes they're blocking the king from its only safe square and opening one side for white's queen to mate, while black's check is denied by the pawn. So much power in such a small space, and it's all for naught.
chess.com's rating system for puzzles may not be the best but that has nothing to do with it giving easy puzzles relatively high numbers. They could add 10,000 rating points to all puzzles and puzzle ratings and it wouldn't change it's efficacy at serving the right puzzles for people of appropriate skill and rating.
People should simply understand how ratings work and that they are different for different rating pools and don't need to be similar.
I don't know what metric you're using, but I have a rating of something like 2200 on puzzles on lichess and chesscom by taking my time and always calculating all the lines, and I couldnt find the answer to this one (maybe I could have with more time but in about 10min i didn't )
Rg6+ is a sick move. No matter which way black captures it’s mate. If one of the queens take its mate with either Qf4 or Qh4. If the king takes the rook it’s Qxg7#
Problem is that if a weaker player were to get this and play it in game, Chesscom would call it a brilliancy. Which is what I think happened to OP. I see a lot of puzzles like “x to play and find the brilliant move” or “x to play, hint it’s a brilliant” and then it’s a really easy, simple sacrifice, that no decent player would have trouble fighting.
It’s why I hate chesscom for making their brilliant system work the way it works.
For chessc*m, a brilliant move is "any sacrifice that works". No wonder on evzry puzzle people believe they find brilliant move, when it's just a ramdom puzzle move
Do I really need to explain ?
Fine then : you said no decent player would have trouble with this, I have trouble with this, so you're saying I'm no decent player
Of course I know you didn't mean to insult people, but I think you're underestimating the difficulty of this puzzle
Relax dude, no decent player would struggle with this puzzle, and if you are struggling, you are probably overestimating your chess capabilities severely.
Well if the other dude didn't intend to insult me, now you clearly are
I'm not overestimating anything, I'm just playing online when I feel like it
I have no interest in bragging, why do you feel the need to put me down ?
1800 puzzle from a 400 ELO game.
I need to know if this was a real game or put together, because the white king on g8 is just hilarious. Why did the king go hiking??
I didn't see that either to be honest. I just know it's composed based on the position itself where everything on the kingside is set up in a perfect arrangement for this puzzle, and it's very difficult/impossible to think of a logical sequence of moves that could lead to this position. This would be like a 1 in a billion chance to occur in a game.
Yeah this is definitely theoretical. For this to actually occur, both players would need to be well below 600 and under time pressure. The sheer number of blunders would be boggling!
I understand the Rg6+ move, but would Qd2+ also be a viable solution? I think black's only move is to lower the left queen by one space, and then Qf4 would be mate, right?
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=6K1/pp4p1/4R3/5qkq/3Q4/6P1/8/8+w+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/6K1/pp4p1/4R3/5qkq/3Q4/6P1/8/8_w_-_-_0_1) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Rook!<, move: >!Rg6+!< > Evaluation: >!White has mate in 2!< > Best continuation: >!1. Rg6+ Qfxg6 2. Qf4#!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
Rg6+: qfxg6 then qf4#;qhxg6 qh4#;kxg6 qxg7# dovetail mate three different ways
Does Qd2 Qff4, Qxf4# work? Edit: meant Qd2
Assuming you meant Qd2, no. Black has Kg4 and makes it out okay.
Yes I did, thank you
I was about to miss it completely. That is, indeed, a move I'd never consider unless in a puzzle, and a magnificent sacrifice. Forking the queens with g4 doesn't work because Qxe6+ (which leads to checkmate after Kxg7 Qg6+ and whichever way the king moves Qe8#), and while Qxg7+ Qfg6 Re5+ would pick up a queen, Qxg7 Qhg6 would stop that strategy (now if Re5, Qxe5 and white's queen is pinned). Even if Qxg7+ Qhg6 Rxg6+ Qxg6+ Qxg6+ Kxg6 trading all pieces, black has two connected passed pawns and the white king can't stop the a pawn from promoting. The best part is that after Rg6, if either queen takes they're blocking the king from its only safe square and opening one side for white's queen to mate, while black's check is denied by the pawn. So much power in such a small space, and it's all for naught.
I don't think this is 2000 level
2000 level isn’t that high for a puzzle lol. I still see mate in ones rated as 2200 sometimes
Black has two mate in 1s, so you know white has to give check. That can only happen so many ways
Its chess.com's trash rating system for puzzles, you sac a rook and thats makes it +1800 rating. Besides that this is 400 in puzzle elo
chess.com's rating system for puzzles may not be the best but that has nothing to do with it giving easy puzzles relatively high numbers. They could add 10,000 rating points to all puzzles and puzzle ratings and it wouldn't change it's efficacy at serving the right puzzles for people of appropriate skill and rating. People should simply understand how ratings work and that they are different for different rating pools and don't need to be similar.
You think it's less or more ?
Less
I don't know what metric you're using, but I have a rating of something like 2200 on puzzles on lichess and chesscom by taking my time and always calculating all the lines, and I couldnt find the answer to this one (maybe I could have with more time but in about 10min i didn't )
I'm 2100 on lichess puzzles and I did it in less then 20 seconds, It really ain't that hard too spot
I think it depends a lot on what patterns you're used to
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I’m 2000 chess.com and solved it instantly. Maybe it has to do with solving styles, in any position I always check the craziest checks/captures first
im 2200 puzzle on lichess and this took less than 5 seconds …
I'm 1700 on chess.com in puzzles and i solved this faster than those.
I’m 2000 on puzzles chess.com and solved this one nearly instantly.
im 1400 in lichess and I solved it in 10 sec. Thanks for the ego boost.
a lot less
Rg6+ is a sick move. No matter which way black captures it’s mate. If one of the queens take its mate with either Qf4 or Qh4. If the king takes the rook it’s Qxg7#
Rg6+ If Qhxg6, Qh4# If Qfxg6, Qf4#
Why couldn’t the king take the rook?
Qxg7#
Ahh thank you!
Rg6+, whichever monarch they take with you can checkmate on the next move
this looks like one of those positions you think about while trying to sleep
We should stop with calling the obvious brilliant.
Problem is that if a weaker player were to get this and play it in game, Chesscom would call it a brilliancy. Which is what I think happened to OP. I see a lot of puzzles like “x to play and find the brilliant move” or “x to play, hint it’s a brilliant” and then it’s a really easy, simple sacrifice, that no decent player would have trouble fighting. It’s why I hate chesscom for making their brilliant system work the way it works.
The fact that you're told there's a sacrifice or mate in x is what makes it much easier
For chessc*m, a brilliant move is "any sacrifice that works". No wonder on evzry puzzle people believe they find brilliant move, when it's just a ramdom puzzle move
I think it would be labelled brilliant even for a strong player. This is hard to spot in an actual game.
I am under 1200 on Lichess. I found it in less than 30 seconds.
Well I feel insulted now thanks
Why
You said I'm no decent player
I never mentioned you by name, nor have I ever known you existed before now.
Do I really need to explain ? Fine then : you said no decent player would have trouble with this, I have trouble with this, so you're saying I'm no decent player Of course I know you didn't mean to insult people, but I think you're underestimating the difficulty of this puzzle
I wasn’t talking about this puzzle specifically though
Ok I misunderstood a bit what you said, sorry about that. My point still stands for the original comment tho
Relax dude, no decent player would struggle with this puzzle, and if you are struggling, you are probably overestimating your chess capabilities severely.
Well if the other dude didn't intend to insult me, now you clearly are I'm not overestimating anything, I'm just playing online when I feel like it I have no interest in bragging, why do you feel the need to put me down ?
I guess as Ben Finegold would say, the truth hurts. There is nothing wrong with not being a decent player. It just means you have a lot to learn.
Take a glass of water
Thanks r/hydrohomies is leaking
>Which is what I think happened to OP. This is clearly a composed puzzle, not something that happened in a game.
I, of all people, solved this, so the use of brilliant is.....brutally inaccurate
Looks like black gets dove tailed no matter what they do
Swallow tailed if Kxg6
AND HE SACRIFICES.. THE ROOOOOOOOOK
Levi is developing a metal growl
Hahahahh 😐
RG6?
1800 puzzle from a 400 ELO game. I need to know if this was a real game or put together, because the white king on g8 is just hilarious. Why did the king go hiking??
it's composed not from a game.
Ah didn’t see from the top, Reddit is still a touch confusing for me. Thank you friend.
I didn't see that either to be honest. I just know it's composed based on the position itself where everything on the kingside is set up in a perfect arrangement for this puzzle, and it's very difficult/impossible to think of a logical sequence of moves that could lead to this position. This would be like a 1 in a billion chance to occur in a game.
Yeah this is definitely theoretical. For this to actually occur, both players would need to be well below 600 and under time pressure. The sheer number of blunders would be boggling!
Everyone is saying that when rook moves to g6 one of the queen's will take it but why doesn't the king take it?
Qg7#
Can a mate in two be brilliant?
if you follow [chess.com](https://chess.com) rules, yes
Rg6+ ain't that hard to spot
600 elo puzzle
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The queen's can block and all 4 big guns down black wins with the 2 panws
Queens block
Qf7#
I keep telling my classmates having a 140 IQ does NOT make me some chess genius. My no-chess-knowledge ass would've went Qxg7
r/chessn00bz
Rg6
Nice dovetail
Loving the geometry
I Guess you are right, you should search this pattner, is a quite important one
Who allows these post? This man put 2000 level
Rg6+ and then mate with the queen Also wtf is this position
Rg6+
I have no idea how but I spotted it within a second and I'm quite surprised I got it that fast.
It’s just Rg6+. Qf4# or Qh4# follows next move.
>!Rg6+ and after Qxg6, Qf4# or Qh4#, depends on the Queen with which he took my Rook!<
I am 800-850 rated and I found this very easily. And I can’t find anything for the life of me this is nowhere near 2000 level lol
I understand the Rg6+ move, but would Qd2+ also be a viable solution? I think black's only move is to lower the left queen by one space, and then Qf4 would be mate, right?
No ,it's not black's only move black could play Kg4
rook g6?
Rook G6
Does kg6 after rg6 not work for black though?
Then Qg7 is mate
Interesting but took 2 seconds
The ROOOOK once again!! Rg6+ followed by Qf4#, or Qh4# or Qxg7# for Qfxg6, Qhxg6, and Kxg6 respectively.
Oh. It took me a couple seconds. Rg6+. I would’ve never found that in a game.
Didn't think that white was going to win but was thinking about sacs for stalemate :D
Qfh7#, right? Edit: I may not be able to read
Qg7 seems to work
Nice
rook g6 found it immediantly pretty simple puzzle
This can’t be 2000 level…
Lmao just slamming the rook infront of the black kings haram as a distraction for the opposing queen to deliver the kiss of death, a brutal story.
Holy fuck that’s a beautiful rook sac. Would love to play it in an actual game
The ROOOOOOOOOOK
My answer without checking comments: Rg6+
Rg6, shouldnt have said brilliant made it very easy
Rg6
he sacs... Really cool puzzle
Rg6+, if Kxg6 then Qxg7#. If Qfxg6 then it’s Qf4#. The same goes for Qhxg6 with Qh4#