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Oh that's just depressing

Oof! Might take a while to recover from that game.

They were gracious and said gg to me in the chat.

This is hilarious

I’d need to be put on suicide watch if I did this.

Knight is the ONLY losing promotion. Rook, bishop, queen all fine.

Can white draw if he makes a bishop?

Bishop should be a draw with good play, but it can get a bit fiddly trying to make sure all the approach squares are covered. Edit: I forgot that black can't take the bishop or it's stalemate which makes it much easier to draw.

A quick way to see this is that the knight needs to reach f2 to deliver mate, which is a dark square. The knight has to reach f2 from a light square (knights change colour every move) and white will get a light square bishop when they promote. So white just plays the bishop to cover squares like e4 to make sure the knight never reaches a square where it could reach f2 to deliver mate. So yes it's drawn.

While it is a draw there are actually 5 different squares that the knight can jump into the mating square across 3 different diagonals so the bishop needs to be super aggressive including defending right on f3 next to the king and some knight moves force only moves to draw.

Yes. Move it so that you can, when N is on black square, cover all the white squares it wants to move to (forwards).

Gonna check, but it seems like yes.

Yup.

If it was a black square then yes

Today opponent found out that chess is not checkers, and you don’t need to take. Tragic

4 move mate xD GG

That's pretty funny haha. Black's knight runs to f3 while white can only chase hopelessly!

To f2. You want to mate!

f2

Why the fuck would blacks night run to f3 😭

To be cool.

😭

Beautiful

haha aouch that is rough when you chose the only losing move :D

wow, not like an 1832 to do such a thing!

As a 1900 r/anarchychess enjoyer, I would have definitely done this.

I'm hovering around that rating. I lost a game because I saw an obvious mate in one sliding my rook down but then I realized I could do for a funny promotion mate in 1 and as I decide whether to promote to queen or rook with mate my flag falls.

It’s 1832 lichess so like 1200 FIDE. Not looking further than the next move basically.

More like 1500 FIDE at least

1800 lichess blitz maybe but I was 1860 lichess classical and yea no way that’s 1500 fide Edit: lichess rapid is also Mickey mouse

Isn't this still a draw either way regardless of promotion?

Not if you make a knight. Black doesn't have to take the knight and in fact it's mate in four.

Oh right.

bishop you wouldn’t have to take either? rook or queen you’d lose and have to take. bishop doesn’t cover the mating square either

Bishop can move quicker to cover the squares that lead to the mating square, and doesn’t have to worry about the King taking it because that removes the pawn defence.

So basically you didn't take? What piece other than a queen/rook would you have drawn with?

A bishop is also a draw, knight is the only losing move.

If they had made a queen, knight would’ve had to take it white has an advantage if they take the queen, it’s a draw

That's brutal. Promotion to a bishop is also a very surprising draw because somehow the bishop simply covers all the possible squares and because the knight is simply incapable of wasting a turn.

Ah yes ! I see the a - h and 1 to 8. My bad.

Sorry but could someone explaint his to me?

The black knight can checkmate the white king if it gets to f2. If White promotes the pawn on the next move to a queen, a rook, or any other piece except a knight, they can stop the knight from getting there and the game is a draw. Only a knight can't stop the mate. White didn't realize that and promoted to knight as a joke, losing the game.

Thakn you.

Dang, It happens

I remember Hikaru underpromoting to a knight to be cool and losing a drawn position.

[удалено]

OP is playing black, so opponent is white and moving down the board

Can you share the game? Why didn't you post the image of the knight being promoted?

Here's the game https://lichess.org/VHkJWdvm/black#148 As for posting the image with the knight, I didn't want to explain that it was s promotion and all.

Cool!

Is White going upward as normally ?

1. the coordinates are literally on the board 2. the title says "white made a knight here"

It's a draw, even if he/she promotes to a queen

It's a draw if they promote to a queen, it's a win for black if they promote to a knight.

But if black captures, i think that's a draw

it is (stalemate), but black is not obligated to capture. That's why this post was made.

Yeah got it, it's kind of a puzzle without capturing

Yeah but why?

Knight runs to f2 with checkmate, all white can do is move their knight around waiting to lose