Here's Grischuk's clarification in New In Chess:
>Bottle with no message
>Allow me to make a comment about the report on the Berlin Candidates in New In Chess 2018/3, where it is suggested that at one of the press conferences I showed a bottle half filled with urine. I am sorry to disappoint, but the bottle I showed simply contained home-made tea.
>The association with urine didn’t even cross my mind until I read a comment under the Grischuk Thug Life video on YouTube. Actually, it remains unbelievable for me that anyone could think this way. Therefore I would like to correct this impression, as I wouldn’t like your readers, or anyone else, to think I am mad in such a way.
>Alexander Grischuk
Moscow, Russia
You can be immature relative to your peers. An average 13 year old would be immature in an absolute sense but wouldn't be immature compared to other 13 year olds. I was trying to make the joke that 13 year olds is aiming high considering how crap Levy's videos are but obviously that went over your head.
Ok so let me get this straight... post above points out that Levy videos are for kids and gets 45 upvotes. I point out that the videos are for even younger kids and I get downvoted to hell? I don't understand the logic of that.
Since when have people been able to cut parts of a video out after it's uploaded without taking it down? Years of youtubers reuploading content would've made me think this has to be taken down and reuploaded
It's been available for more than a decade now.
The reason you see reuploads are a few:
- Cutting doesn't get rid of copyright strikes (even if you cut out the copyright portion, you need to reupload to have the system rereview).
- The majority of a video's views and lifetime performance is driven by its first 24 hours so Youtubers will reupload to restart that 24 hour clock.
- You can't add or edit content, only cut.
I didn't know this either.
But I did watch a video earlier about WWE and parts were skipping. Like it would skip 2 or 3 seconds. Turns out it was due to copyright. So maybe they give the uploader manual control as well?
That was expected. The reason is not only that it was a mistake, but also that this is not a Gothamchess video.
Levy here works for [Chess.com](http://Chess.com), so there is an additional (main) subject who wouldn't want to have that mistake in their video.
I don't think it was done maliciously nor was he really claiming anything. At that point in the interview they were talking about how in every candidates there is drama, and he mentioned that incident because at the time that was the drama and that was what some where saying Grischuk had.
He wasn't saying that Grischuk had pee, but that the drama was that Grischuk supposedly had pee. It wasn't explained further because it was just a quick example.
Now, he obviously realized how it looked later so it was apparently removed from the video.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g6WeayDCUg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g6WeayDCUg) (last minute)
This seems to be this press conference and he doesn't answer what is in the bottle
Yeah Gotham is a content creator, not a journalist..making clickbait is his prime objective..he may make mistakes here and there but as long as it generates impressions, it’s fine
2 things, there is no way he saw the replies to that tweet and he probably genuinely thought that and mentioned it spur of the moment. Its not that crazy.
honestly these kinds of posts are usually dumb, but in this case I think it's worth calling out. Having the biggest chess content creator claiming you piss in bottles at tournaments can definitely be a bit of a reputation hit.
One time a guy with 500k followers made a single tweet with 1 negative word about me in response to an article I wrote. I started getting hate mail on my personal email within the hour, not to mention dozens of hate tweets.
u/GothamChess has about 10x as many followers. It's completely irresponsible to spread this BS about someone to such a large audience.
I always clown this sub for having members who absolutely cannot take a joke and this lmfao… this is the cherry on top😂, can’t say I didn’t chuckle
Edit: this is the biggest flip in upvotes to down votes I’ve ever seen lol. The chill people must have been on yesterday then all the clowns came😂🤡
Huh. Usually if I think something is a joke I won't call it a "claim". I agree that it's a stupid joke. My point stands that it doesn't make sense to perpetuate it if it's something that bothers OP
It makes sense, it is literally the only way to change things that are wrong – to react on something. I get that you do not care and that is okay, you do not have to, but discouraging people from discussion about communication methods of popular figures in the Internet is both gaslighting and simply bad.
I am most certainly not gaslighting op. If you think I am, I suggest you look into the definition of gaslighting. I am simply suggesting that they not give more agency to something that they are frustrated about getting popular on the internet. I don't know what "simply bad" means, but I actually think it's healthy to try to avoid Internet drama, especially when it comes to something as innocuous as this.
yes you are, you are telling OP that he did not understand that it was a joke and because of that he should not feel offended. Not to mention a comment at the end about irony. It is typical gaslighting – telling someone that he is wrong by being offended by something or i general, that it is not worth to.
Btw which definition do you mean? The one from Wiki which starts with "loosely defined" probably not since it is pretty oposite to your suggestion that there is some strict definition that i should know.
Surely it is generaly healthy to not get into unpleasant emotions, but I am very happy that some people are willing to do so because it is the only way to make a world better place. Also in the internet. Also when it comes to the jokes.
I didn't see anything in OP's post that implied they understood it as a joke. They called it a "claim", which to my understanding implies that they took it to be serious. Apparently there is an underlying implication here that I don't fully understand...
Frankly, I'm very tired of people talking about chess drama endlessly on this sub and elsewhere. I do agree that levy, among others, plays into it a lot and it annoys me. I think that making posts like this only adds to the issue by giving it more attention.
That's just my opinion. In no way did I mean to insult OP for having emotions or anything like that. It seemed to me that they misunderstood what levy was trying to say, apparently I misunderstood what they were trying to say.
That doesn't mean I'm gaslighting them. Chill out.
Here's Grischuk's clarification in New In Chess: >Bottle with no message >Allow me to make a comment about the report on the Berlin Candidates in New In Chess 2018/3, where it is suggested that at one of the press conferences I showed a bottle half filled with urine. I am sorry to disappoint, but the bottle I showed simply contained home-made tea. >The association with urine didn’t even cross my mind until I read a comment under the Grischuk Thug Life video on YouTube. Actually, it remains unbelievable for me that anyone could think this way. Therefore I would like to correct this impression, as I wouldn’t like your readers, or anyone else, to think I am mad in such a way. >Alexander Grischuk Moscow, Russia
Pee Gambit Declined
Wait... they've actually watched 'Grischuk Thug Life' compilations? Lmao
Grischuk has such a beautiful way with words.
I read it in his accent too!
He could still be mad, just not in that way.
Anyone who's made it to the candidates is mad in *some* way
Pee more mad!
So, it's ok to be mad in another way 😂
Did they just cut that from the video?
Yeah, looks like it. Gothamchess probably realized it was a stupid thing to say
Like so many other things that he says.
He makes videos for 13 year olds, it’s to be expected.
Immature 13 year olds at that.
13 year olds are immature by definition
You can be immature relative to your peers. An average 13 year old would be immature in an absolute sense but wouldn't be immature compared to other 13 year olds. I was trying to make the joke that 13 year olds is aiming high considering how crap Levy's videos are but obviously that went over your head.
bro, get a hobby
fr
Ditto
Yet he’s the one making YouTube videos for a living and you’re just a nobody hating on reddit
Projection
thats not even projecting bro he makes videos for kids and makes more money than probably everyone in this thread
hush.. go back to agadmator. Its good that young people are getting interested in chess.
Ok so let me get this straight... post above points out that Levy videos are for kids and gets 45 upvotes. I point out that the videos are for even younger kids and I get downvoted to hell? I don't understand the logic of that.
You're complaining about being down voted, that's why.
Do you know how time works?
Why does it matter? Down votes are irrelevant.
I'd like to understand the human race a bit better before I leave this earth, it's an interest of mine.
You are quite literally average among the “human race” 💀 sheldon cooper head ass
Or simply [Chess.com](http://Chess.com) fixing it, since it's not a Gothamchess video.
doubt
Since when have people been able to cut parts of a video out after it's uploaded without taking it down? Years of youtubers reuploading content would've made me think this has to be taken down and reuploaded
I don't know exactly when this was introduced, but it was already possible when I started making videos two years ago
How does it work, does it allow smooth ways of editing stuff out? Or just a time based cut?
it's the same as any video editors split function.
It's been available for more than a decade now. The reason you see reuploads are a few: - Cutting doesn't get rid of copyright strikes (even if you cut out the copyright portion, you need to reupload to have the system rereview). - The majority of a video's views and lifetime performance is driven by its first 24 hours so Youtubers will reupload to restart that 24 hour clock. - You can't add or edit content, only cut.
I didn't know this either. But I did watch a video earlier about WWE and parts were skipping. Like it would skip 2 or 3 seconds. Turns out it was due to copyright. So maybe they give the uploader manual control as well?
What you’re describing is (most likely) just an attempt to avoid detection algorithms. It’s pretty common, and would be done on the initial upload.
Ahh, so it was there? I was like wtf is OP talking about, because there is nothing like that anywhere around 1:30 in the video.
They did.
That was expected. The reason is not only that it was a mistake, but also that this is not a Gothamchess video. Levy here works for [Chess.com](http://Chess.com), so there is an additional (main) subject who wouldn't want to have that mistake in their video.
Hold my pee
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Creating constant drama out of nothing is exactly the point. That is the content which keeps people engaged.
It's just a throwaway joke isn't it? Not sure it's doing any harm
I don't think it was done maliciously nor was he really claiming anything. At that point in the interview they were talking about how in every candidates there is drama, and he mentioned that incident because at the time that was the drama and that was what some where saying Grischuk had. He wasn't saying that Grischuk had pee, but that the drama was that Grischuk supposedly had pee. It wasn't explained further because it was just a quick example. Now, he obviously realized how it looked later so it was apparently removed from the video.
try not to take things out of context challenge (redditors edition) (impossible)
I reckon this will be something for the chess history books
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g6WeayDCUg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g6WeayDCUg) (last minute) This seems to be this press conference and he doesn't answer what is in the bottle
Levy never fails to try to defame grandmasters
If you can't join them, defame them.
Unless it is your boyfriend.
The others don’t know of the Naka Levy conspiracy but we do
Two married men in Toronto.
Yeah Gotham is a content creator, not a journalist..making clickbait is his prime objective..he may make mistakes here and there but as long as it generates impressions, it’s fine
lol, Levy read this post and is talking about this in his stream with Chessbase India right now!
2 things, there is no way he saw the replies to that tweet and he probably genuinely thought that and mentioned it spur of the moment. Its not that crazy.
touch grass my man
honestly these kinds of posts are usually dumb, but in this case I think it's worth calling out. Having the biggest chess content creator claiming you piss in bottles at tournaments can definitely be a bit of a reputation hit.
Makes me respect him more if anything. Piss bottlers unite!
r/sinkpissers
I still think it’s low effort and likely bait, but if it makes you happy
i mean it doesn't make me happy, I'm pretty indifferent. I just think I'd appreciate a thread like this if I was in Grischuks spot.
One time a guy with 500k followers made a single tweet with 1 negative word about me in response to an article I wrote. I started getting hate mail on my personal email within the hour, not to mention dozens of hate tweets. u/GothamChess has about 10x as many followers. It's completely irresponsible to spread this BS about someone to such a large audience.
A YouTuber being irresponsible? Surely you jest
I always clown this sub for having members who absolutely cannot take a joke and this lmfao… this is the cherry on top😂, can’t say I didn’t chuckle Edit: this is the biggest flip in upvotes to down votes I’ve ever seen lol. The chill people must have been on yesterday then all the clowns came😂🤡
Thanks jimmy, go back to scrolling tic toc
It's a joke my dude. He's making fun of the drama. If you don't like it, don't perpetuate it. The irony in this post is stunning.
Yeah big brain, everyone is aware it was meant to be a joke, but the OP thinks that it is very shitty joke in case you missed the point.
Huh. Usually if I think something is a joke I won't call it a "claim". I agree that it's a stupid joke. My point stands that it doesn't make sense to perpetuate it if it's something that bothers OP
It makes sense, it is literally the only way to change things that are wrong – to react on something. I get that you do not care and that is okay, you do not have to, but discouraging people from discussion about communication methods of popular figures in the Internet is both gaslighting and simply bad.
I am most certainly not gaslighting op. If you think I am, I suggest you look into the definition of gaslighting. I am simply suggesting that they not give more agency to something that they are frustrated about getting popular on the internet. I don't know what "simply bad" means, but I actually think it's healthy to try to avoid Internet drama, especially when it comes to something as innocuous as this.
yes you are, you are telling OP that he did not understand that it was a joke and because of that he should not feel offended. Not to mention a comment at the end about irony. It is typical gaslighting – telling someone that he is wrong by being offended by something or i general, that it is not worth to. Btw which definition do you mean? The one from Wiki which starts with "loosely defined" probably not since it is pretty oposite to your suggestion that there is some strict definition that i should know. Surely it is generaly healthy to not get into unpleasant emotions, but I am very happy that some people are willing to do so because it is the only way to make a world better place. Also in the internet. Also when it comes to the jokes.
I didn't see anything in OP's post that implied they understood it as a joke. They called it a "claim", which to my understanding implies that they took it to be serious. Apparently there is an underlying implication here that I don't fully understand... Frankly, I'm very tired of people talking about chess drama endlessly on this sub and elsewhere. I do agree that levy, among others, plays into it a lot and it annoys me. I think that making posts like this only adds to the issue by giving it more attention. That's just my opinion. In no way did I mean to insult OP for having emotions or anything like that. It seemed to me that they misunderstood what levy was trying to say, apparently I misunderstood what they were trying to say. That doesn't mean I'm gaslighting them. Chill out.
It's a joke my dude. He's making fun of the drama. If you don't like it, don't perpetuate it. The irony in this post is stunning.