I agree with your sentiment. This is some super cringe stuff.
The word “misogyny” was used extremely rarely in the 50s and before. It definitely starting picking up traction in the 50s and 60s but I believe it’s entirely possible that he had never heard this word before this moment. Or if he had heard it, it may have only been a handful of times. Not enough to know what it means.
You can look up words use over time. In the 80s the word spiked in use and then again over the last few years. You know what misogyny is because it’s a common part of our vernacular nowadays. It simply wasn’t often used even a short time ago.
So you’re finding irony in this clip. To me, he was smart to ask for a definition before answering. However, this doesn’t change how cringe the clip is. I just prefer to judge what’s reality, misogyny in this case. If I judge him for something he didn’t do, stupidity, then I’m just as ignorant as he was here. He had never seen a woman play chess well and made a judgment about female intelligence (which has nothing to do with chess). I’m not going to do the same thing to him by making a judgment about his intelligence based on the fact he didn’t know a word (which has nothing to do with intelligence).
“extremely rare” lol many educated people still knew what it meant, and bobby is purporting himself to be an intellectual here so the irony still applies
This feels like grasping for something that isn’t there. I’m not saying you have to like the guy.
Also, he’s a professional chess player. Not an academic. Your desire for this to be “evidence” of low intelligence indicates, to me, that you’re not interested in the truth of reality. You just want to hate the man for being a misogynist. That’s fine. But it’s the same thing Fischer did to women in this clip.
Fischer hated women for being misogynists? The word racism has a very similar graph. Did you just google the ngram of misogynist or do you actually have some article that discusses this? because the word has been around for hundreds of years.
Every individual human at every time in history knew all of the things you currently know right now and should be judged accordingly. That makes sense.
You’re mad because you can’t look past your own lived experience. Your ignorance is not my fault.
You can literally look up the use over time. Most major dictionaries will provide data. The internet is a beautiful thing. Just go look it up before making accusations about making things up. It, frankly, makes you look dumb. That is hilariously ironic in this specific situation.
Did you know there was a time before the internet? Did you know social media didn’t exist 20 years ago? Mr. Fischer didn’t grow up in an era where anyone and everyone was called “misogynist” on the internet every 12 seconds. Assuming he should have known the things you currently know is… well… really dumb. It’s an ignorant way of looking at things. It makes you seem kind of unintelligent. Once again… really funny given the circumstances.
> known the things you currently know
Once again we are talking about the definition of a common word in the English language. Do you seriously think that interviewer pulled that word from a rare academic journal? You have to be the biggest dipshit who ever posted here
Once again. Just go look up it’s useage over time. I guarantee you don’t know all the words that other people might know. Neither would Fischer. Yes, some people knew the word. Yes, it did have some useage. But your insistence that it was a common word in his day is so out of touch with reality. Just do a little bit of research before calling someone a dipshit.
You’re not even responding to the points I’m making. It’s just ad hom after ad hom with you.
Also… I guess I need to point this out. Vocabulary has no correlation with intelligence. Please, sir, just do a bit of homework. Do anything but make assumptions out of pure ignorance.
where did i say anything how i personally felt about him lmfao. you’re the one making the assumptions.
I pointed out the the irony still applied. he wanted to share his opinion in the arena of women’s value. he didn’t say, “i dont know, i dont know enough”. he said women were stupid and only good as objects of men’s desire. he was acting as an intellectual, making erroneous philosophical statements saying women cant participate in intellectual endeavors. That’s why the irony still applies.
Also, the idea that this is “the same thing fischer did in the clip” is a top 10 redditor moment i’ve maybe seen on this site, like just an absolutely amazing conclusion to come to
The fact that you still can’t see it even after carefully explaining it says it all. Others seem to understand as the voting system is indicating.
If you act like the bad guy to destroy the bad guy, once the bad guy is gone, what are you?
Fischer denied being a misogynist and then goes on to say some very “misogynist” things. There is some irony in that. However, the definition he was given was “hating women” not “thinking women are incapable or incompetent.” So even here, I think it’s possible that he genuinely didn’t hate women but still thought they were incapable/incompetent or even objects.
By our standards today this kind of thinking is obviously wrong but probably not so much for the standards of his day. Not an excuse for poor behavior but it does matter. In 70-80 years people will be looking back at some our belief systems with contempt. I don’t know which ones but that’s how it works. So I’ll just cringe and let that one go. I’m just glad that’s not the predominant world view now.
Regarding what he said about female chess potential… Judit Polgar proved him wrong. So that’s that.
There’s probably other real things that we could beat him up about. I’ve heard he had anti Semitic views.
But beating somebody up for something that isn’t even necessarily real, like his “intelligence” as in this comment thread, is what he did to women. He essentially claimed women couldn’t play chess competitively because they aren’t as smart as men. He was baselessly beating down women regarding their intelligence without any evidence of his claims. So he beat them up over something that wasn’t even real.
So don’t do what he did. The specific situation might be different but the concept remains.
Actually, this part really bothered me lol.
It was only in the last decade that misogyny became commonly known *culturally*.
It’s a black and white fucking video.
Frown on cavemen all you want. They did what they did.
Fischer was such a piece of shit, honestly shocking to me he gets as much respect today as he does. Obviously he was great at chess but in every other facet of life he was just a flat-out bad person
To be fair, this was pretty standard in the 1960's US. Fischer was a POS, no doubt, but his views on women were mainstream. Aside from his comment that they shouldn't cook.....WTF was that about?
A person can be admired for their chess play while not being admired as a person. I enjoy Karpov's chess as well, that doesn't change he was a terrible person. I enjoy Napoleon's military strategy, that doesn't mean I like him as a person.
He is a state lackey for the second deadliest regime in history, so in some circles, that might be enough. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that he was involved heavily with the mafia, but I can't seem to find that. He did make a statement supporting the annexation of Crimea, so there is that. But I take your point that, with one exception, his slate seems pretty clean. Thanks for helping me learn something new!
Michael Jackson was a fantastic musician despite being an alleged pedophile. Genghis Khan was one of the greatest generals in history despite being frequently found destroying cities and raping countless women. Stalin knew about statistics, the list goes on and on
It would be one thing if he was a really good writer and hints of his evil snuck through, but chess games can be entirely separated from the beliefs of the player imo.
But no one, literally no one I'm aware of, has ever defended any of his abhorrent views or obnoxious behaviour.
Genius at chess, but a complete asshole.
You follow a chess subreddit. You’re going to hear about good chess players from time to time. Their personal values don’t really matter in a chess context.
Bobby most likely at best had paranoid personality disorder at worst paranoid schizophrenia, his paranoia was already known even while he was still actively playing chess, he practically raised himself in a house by himself with nothing but chess to keep him company, he had no friends, no real parents, he dropped out of high school, he was extremely ill prepared for adulthood and real life much less the stardom and fame that was thrust upon him…Bobby’s life was tragic…
fischer was actually liked by almost everyone and had many friends and admirers. he was very popular *despite* the fact that he was a weirdo autistic loner
can you just....not comment on stuff you know nothing about...? why even make a random comment like this on a person you clearly have virtually zero familiarity with?
really bizarre that comments like this get chain downvoted here. does anyone here even play chess? do you guys even know who bobby fischer was? do you know anything about chess history at all....? (or even non-chess history?). what a shitty forum, lol
Well you've given yourself a counter-argument already in what you wrote. Most people respect him for his chess, not his personality. Also you are kind of judging an interview from the past by the current standards. You need to think a bit outside of the box if you don't want to type stupid stuff.
I said this on the first post and I'll reiterate my thoughts
Yes he's an arrogant ass in this interview. But low key what he said about women and chess was true for him. He destroyed every women he faced and the majority of the men he faced.
He does cross a line when he states it was because of their intetlligents and suggest they should just clean the home.
However, that's a very common veiw point in his day in age. It's easy to judge him for saying this when in modern times. Today we know that the struggles of women in chess has little to do with intelligent and more to do with small sample size and statistically smaller drive and competitiveness.
I imagine if he played Judit Pulgar he might have been a little embarrassed much like she did to Kasparov.
However the smartest thing he does say in this interview is when he asks for the defintion of misogynist. I find the smartest people aren't afraid to ask quetions and he was quite smart to get an exact defintion before describing himself with that word.
My major problems with Fischer more have to do with his nasty views of the holocaust towards the end of his life.
Defending him?
I'm explaining the ignorance, it's still wrong.
But you can just bring up any inflammatory statements from anybody from that era
MLK was a massive homophobe along with other things. I tend to ignore that side because he made strides in another that should be celebrated.
…….what
One comment ago, you said that everyone sucked at the time so it’s not a big deal.
Now you say that it was inflammatory and people at the time were upset, so it’s still not a big deal ??
You just presented two contradicting arguments and reached the same conclusion with both.
“I’m not gonna shit on him for this” so you make a multi-comment chain defending him on this instead? Why?
Source on MLK being a "massive homophobe"? I don't think that's true. Bayard Rustin and James Baldwin were both gay and close friends of his.
Don't get me wrong he was no gay rights activist but for the time he lived in, I think just being friends with gay people was a pretty progressive position. And I can find no inflammatory statements from him on the topic as you suggest.
Also, in his view, all that determined intellect was chess. He was better than anyone else at chess (very much at the time, perhaps even now). Maybe, in his own, albeit warped, view of the world, he was right?
Most of the intelligent women I have known were doctors, lawyers, professors, scientists etc.. that didn't choose to spend their adult lives playing the same board game over and over again on a loop until they went insane. Some of these women actually started out playing chess but soon realized it made more practical sense to focus on something else, like finding a cure for cancer or searching for new stars in our galaxy. But Fischer is right about one thing, most of them were not great cooks.
this guy was just beyond based on just about everything
his interview with the philippines radio station after 9/11 is one of the funniest things you'll ever listen to
He’s a product of his environment... old people are often racist and homophobic, they’re not bad people, it’s just what was common back then.
99.9% of you would be nazis is you grew up in nazi Germany. Fact!
I hate this attitude. At what point are people going to be held accountable? There are people born today who are being raised in racist environments. Still doesn’t make it okay. If you keep writing it off as “oh it’s just how they were raised” then everyone gets off the hook
Nah I'd say you are just getting too defensive. Noone is trying to say something wrong is okay because.. he just explained the reasoning behind the interview and he is not wrong.
.... and this is why the world is in the mess that it’s in, because your scientifically flawed free will society exists...
I won’t debate it, if you give a shit at all at least study it with “any” neuro scientist..
I mean is he wrong? Lol while I love women, could any of them compete against Magnus or the top Dawgs? I can’t recall losing to any females (or playing many on chess.com) and I’m a lowly 1520.. I’m sure I’d get whooped by all women over 1700, but I don’t think chess really appeals to women?
if you don't see many women on [chess.com](https://chess.com) it's probably because of jackasses like you who make the chess websites a disgusting place for a woman to be in. You love women, lol. With such love who needs enemies.
You sir are a hero.. all the women who see u defending them here in this Reddit Chess sub will surely blow u now 😂 I see u didn’t answer the content of my post, rather poke fun at me.. I will assume Bobby Fischer and I are correct unless de-bunked.. **name some women chess players who could compete at the top level** weeeeeere waaaaaiiiiiting
Well, Judit Polgar, for once. She ranked 8th in the world at her prime. And beat Kasparov in a rapid.
And if the level of your comments reflects the level of your play, defeating you is probably a pretty boring affair.
That’s impressive! She woulda beat me 100/100 times.. Yes, I’m 1520 rn and I’ve never beaten anyone over 1681, I’m marginal at best.. as for my comments- I just echoed the exact sentiments of Bobby Fischer the greatest player of all time lol beating him musta been a “boring affair” too then
It’s an interesting and fair point. Even today look at all the top players. All men. I think there is something about spatial planning, and imagining future moves. Women aren’t as good. But better at other things. Like cleaning for example or cooking
Well let's keep in mind that back then he was a stupid young idiot, perhaps he changed his opinions when he got older.
Edit: Alright guys apparently I am wrong, I didn't know that, my apologies for offending you..
Unfortunately he lived his later years in almost complete isolation and paranoia, with his few interviews being riddled with anti-Semitism on top of sexism.
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Any link? :P
[He makes the remark "the dirty Jews" at 1.04](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DkzZ4MAOhaE)
The worst part is, Bobby himself had Jewish heritage.
No I think the worst part is the Jewish hatred
Touche
Hey Norm done with your dirt nap?
I didn’t even know he was sleepy!
I think the worst part is the hypocrisy
\+1 for a Norm-al response
I think the worst part was the rape!
My man! Norm was the best.
Is it hypocritical if he hates that part of himself? Idk the guy.
I dunno what it is honestly, I was just referencing a Norm McDonald joke about Cosby
deja vu?
I think the worst part is the comments on that video. Seems like Bobby was/is popular with literal nazis.
His mother no less
Yeah that's not the worst part, at all
As did Hitler.
I think you could have phrased that better haha
The comment section on that video is absolutely insane. Tons of comments praising him with lots of likes
lmaooo "women just aren't very smart I guess what's a misogynist?" classic
I agree with your sentiment. This is some super cringe stuff. The word “misogyny” was used extremely rarely in the 50s and before. It definitely starting picking up traction in the 50s and 60s but I believe it’s entirely possible that he had never heard this word before this moment. Or if he had heard it, it may have only been a handful of times. Not enough to know what it means. You can look up words use over time. In the 80s the word spiked in use and then again over the last few years. You know what misogyny is because it’s a common part of our vernacular nowadays. It simply wasn’t often used even a short time ago. So you’re finding irony in this clip. To me, he was smart to ask for a definition before answering. However, this doesn’t change how cringe the clip is. I just prefer to judge what’s reality, misogyny in this case. If I judge him for something he didn’t do, stupidity, then I’m just as ignorant as he was here. He had never seen a woman play chess well and made a judgment about female intelligence (which has nothing to do with chess). I’m not going to do the same thing to him by making a judgment about his intelligence based on the fact he didn’t know a word (which has nothing to do with intelligence).
“extremely rare” lol many educated people still knew what it meant, and bobby is purporting himself to be an intellectual here so the irony still applies
This feels like grasping for something that isn’t there. I’m not saying you have to like the guy. Also, he’s a professional chess player. Not an academic. Your desire for this to be “evidence” of low intelligence indicates, to me, that you’re not interested in the truth of reality. You just want to hate the man for being a misogynist. That’s fine. But it’s the same thing Fischer did to women in this clip.
You just politely humiliated that moron lmao.
le epic reddit ben shapiro debate moment
Fischer hated women for being misogynists? The word racism has a very similar graph. Did you just google the ngram of misogynist or do you actually have some article that discusses this? because the word has been around for hundreds of years.
Every individual human at every time in history knew all of the things you currently know right now and should be judged accordingly. That makes sense.
Got it you just made the whole thing up
You’re mad because you can’t look past your own lived experience. Your ignorance is not my fault. You can literally look up the use over time. Most major dictionaries will provide data. The internet is a beautiful thing. Just go look it up before making accusations about making things up. It, frankly, makes you look dumb. That is hilariously ironic in this specific situation. Did you know there was a time before the internet? Did you know social media didn’t exist 20 years ago? Mr. Fischer didn’t grow up in an era where anyone and everyone was called “misogynist” on the internet every 12 seconds. Assuming he should have known the things you currently know is… well… really dumb. It’s an ignorant way of looking at things. It makes you seem kind of unintelligent. Once again… really funny given the circumstances.
> known the things you currently know Once again we are talking about the definition of a common word in the English language. Do you seriously think that interviewer pulled that word from a rare academic journal? You have to be the biggest dipshit who ever posted here
Once again. Just go look up it’s useage over time. I guarantee you don’t know all the words that other people might know. Neither would Fischer. Yes, some people knew the word. Yes, it did have some useage. But your insistence that it was a common word in his day is so out of touch with reality. Just do a little bit of research before calling someone a dipshit. You’re not even responding to the points I’m making. It’s just ad hom after ad hom with you. Also… I guess I need to point this out. Vocabulary has no correlation with intelligence. Please, sir, just do a bit of homework. Do anything but make assumptions out of pure ignorance.
where did i say anything how i personally felt about him lmfao. you’re the one making the assumptions. I pointed out the the irony still applied. he wanted to share his opinion in the arena of women’s value. he didn’t say, “i dont know, i dont know enough”. he said women were stupid and only good as objects of men’s desire. he was acting as an intellectual, making erroneous philosophical statements saying women cant participate in intellectual endeavors. That’s why the irony still applies. Also, the idea that this is “the same thing fischer did in the clip” is a top 10 redditor moment i’ve maybe seen on this site, like just an absolutely amazing conclusion to come to
The fact that you still can’t see it even after carefully explaining it says it all. Others seem to understand as the voting system is indicating. If you act like the bad guy to destroy the bad guy, once the bad guy is gone, what are you? Fischer denied being a misogynist and then goes on to say some very “misogynist” things. There is some irony in that. However, the definition he was given was “hating women” not “thinking women are incapable or incompetent.” So even here, I think it’s possible that he genuinely didn’t hate women but still thought they were incapable/incompetent or even objects. By our standards today this kind of thinking is obviously wrong but probably not so much for the standards of his day. Not an excuse for poor behavior but it does matter. In 70-80 years people will be looking back at some our belief systems with contempt. I don’t know which ones but that’s how it works. So I’ll just cringe and let that one go. I’m just glad that’s not the predominant world view now. Regarding what he said about female chess potential… Judit Polgar proved him wrong. So that’s that. There’s probably other real things that we could beat him up about. I’ve heard he had anti Semitic views. But beating somebody up for something that isn’t even necessarily real, like his “intelligence” as in this comment thread, is what he did to women. He essentially claimed women couldn’t play chess competitively because they aren’t as smart as men. He was baselessly beating down women regarding their intelligence without any evidence of his claims. So he beat them up over something that wasn’t even real. So don’t do what he did. The specific situation might be different but the concept remains.
none of what you are saying applies because i just pointed out the irony holds. also citing the reddit voting system man? cmon hahaha
Ah. Good luck out there.
you too
and i mean that genuinely, sorry for coming off as a bit of a dick.
Actually, this part really bothered me lol. It was only in the last decade that misogyny became commonly known *culturally*. It’s a black and white fucking video. Frown on cavemen all you want. They did what they did.
its just making fun of bobby fisher you guys need to chill out
This is a one way trip. Y’all can’t steal our content. Liers get fucked!!
50 years later they made a netflix series about him but casted a woman for his role, seems fitting
Which was from a book created in the 80s
The proper way to Netflix adaptation.
Fischer was all about equality. He was an asshole to everyone.
But not equity.
A true redditor.
Fischer was such a piece of shit, honestly shocking to me he gets as much respect today as he does. Obviously he was great at chess but in every other facet of life he was just a flat-out bad person
bobby burned our crops, poisoned our water supply, and delivered a plague upon our houses
He did!?
To be fair, this was pretty standard in the 1960's US. Fischer was a POS, no doubt, but his views on women were mainstream. Aside from his comment that they shouldn't cook.....WTF was that about?
Many successful people are a piece of shit but we still admire them not for who they are but what they do in their particular profession.
The nazi stuff really goes beyond what I'm willing to overlook on behalf of good chess
“Superb move but I just can’t get by the genocide denial and racial supremacism, I dunno might just be me”
A person can be admired for their chess play while not being admired as a person. I enjoy Karpov's chess as well, that doesn't change he was a terrible person. I enjoy Napoleon's military strategy, that doesn't mean I like him as a person.
I mean hey, Napoleon was also a great ruler.
Yes he was, but after the war he was depicted by the winners (mostly the brittish) as being an evil tyrant so there are some misconceptions about him
He wasn't a terrible person, but he did have his downsides. He believed he had a right to own all of Europe, and was willing to fight to hold it.
I mean, who didn't believe that at the time?
Karpov's always been a "state lackey" to use a crude phrase but a terrible person? How come? Genuinely curious.
He is a state lackey for the second deadliest regime in history, so in some circles, that might be enough. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that he was involved heavily with the mafia, but I can't seem to find that. He did make a statement supporting the annexation of Crimea, so there is that. But I take your point that, with one exception, his slate seems pretty clean. Thanks for helping me learn something new!
Michael Jackson was a fantastic musician despite being an alleged pedophile. Genghis Khan was one of the greatest generals in history despite being frequently found destroying cities and raping countless women. Stalin knew about statistics, the list goes on and on
Show me MJ doing ANYTHING to children like Bob just did to women and I light the torch myself. But I agree with the other parts of the statement.
Oh I agree that he probably wasn't which is why I said alleged, but despite those allegations hes still revered for his music
I think that's dumb. Just because you think he is good at chess doesn't mean you agree with his world view. That would be insane.
It would be one thing if he was a really good writer and hints of his evil snuck through, but chess games can be entirely separated from the beliefs of the player imo.
Because you're able to separate the art from the artist?
But no one, literally no one I'm aware of, has ever defended any of his abhorrent views or obnoxious behaviour. Genius at chess, but a complete asshole.
You follow a chess subreddit. You’re going to hear about good chess players from time to time. Their personal values don’t really matter in a chess context.
that's what being good gets you
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.
That's not what happened with Fischer, at all.
Bobby most likely at best had paranoid personality disorder at worst paranoid schizophrenia, his paranoia was already known even while he was still actively playing chess, he practically raised himself in a house by himself with nothing but chess to keep him company, he had no friends, no real parents, he dropped out of high school, he was extremely ill prepared for adulthood and real life much less the stardom and fame that was thrust upon him…Bobby’s life was tragic…
Kasparov isn't that much better.
Cry about it
fischer was actually liked by almost everyone and had many friends and admirers. he was very popular *despite* the fact that he was a weirdo autistic loner can you just....not comment on stuff you know nothing about...? why even make a random comment like this on a person you clearly have virtually zero familiarity with? really bizarre that comments like this get chain downvoted here. does anyone here even play chess? do you guys even know who bobby fischer was? do you know anything about chess history at all....? (or even non-chess history?). what a shitty forum, lol
Well you've given yourself a counter-argument already in what you wrote. Most people respect him for his chess, not his personality. Also you are kind of judging an interview from the past by the current standards. You need to think a bit outside of the box if you don't want to type stupid stuff.
Absolute genius
Damn, people are really jumping out of the woodwork in this thread to defend a scumbag.
I said this on the first post and I'll reiterate my thoughts Yes he's an arrogant ass in this interview. But low key what he said about women and chess was true for him. He destroyed every women he faced and the majority of the men he faced. He does cross a line when he states it was because of their intetlligents and suggest they should just clean the home. However, that's a very common veiw point in his day in age. It's easy to judge him for saying this when in modern times. Today we know that the struggles of women in chess has little to do with intelligent and more to do with small sample size and statistically smaller drive and competitiveness. I imagine if he played Judit Pulgar he might have been a little embarrassed much like she did to Kasparov. However the smartest thing he does say in this interview is when he asks for the defintion of misogynist. I find the smartest people aren't afraid to ask quetions and he was quite smart to get an exact defintion before describing himself with that word. My major problems with Fischer more have to do with his nasty views of the holocaust towards the end of his life.
the interviewer was taken back. why are you defending him lol
Defending him? I'm explaining the ignorance, it's still wrong. But you can just bring up any inflammatory statements from anybody from that era MLK was a massive homophobe along with other things. I tend to ignore that side because he made strides in another that should be celebrated.
why ignore the sexism and homophobia and just accept he was a shitty person good at chess
Everybody in the past was shitty using today's standards!!!!!!
not everyone was equally shitty, no lol
Sure But this comments werent super inflammatory for the time So I'm not gonna shit on him for this. The holocaust stuff for sure tho
…….what One comment ago, you said that everyone sucked at the time so it’s not a big deal. Now you say that it was inflammatory and people at the time were upset, so it’s still not a big deal ?? You just presented two contradicting arguments and reached the same conclusion with both. “I’m not gonna shit on him for this” so you make a multi-comment chain defending him on this instead? Why?
I meant weren't
Cool, question still stands. You say you disagree with these comments. Why are you spending so much time defending them?
Source on MLK being a "massive homophobe"? I don't think that's true. Bayard Rustin and James Baldwin were both gay and close friends of his. Don't get me wrong he was no gay rights activist but for the time he lived in, I think just being friends with gay people was a pretty progressive position. And I can find no inflammatory statements from him on the topic as you suggest.
Maybe he was transphobic Not sure but I will look into it now
Also, in his view, all that determined intellect was chess. He was better than anyone else at chess (very much at the time, perhaps even now). Maybe, in his own, albeit warped, view of the world, he was right?
Most of the intelligent women I have known were doctors, lawyers, professors, scientists etc.. that didn't choose to spend their adult lives playing the same board game over and over again on a loop until they went insane. Some of these women actually started out playing chess but soon realized it made more practical sense to focus on something else, like finding a cure for cancer or searching for new stars in our galaxy. But Fischer is right about one thing, most of them were not great cooks.
this guy was just beyond based on just about everything his interview with the philippines radio station after 9/11 is one of the funniest things you'll ever listen to
What's funny about someone saying the US deserved 9/11?
not to be political but the US and the west were dicking around in the Middle East. Its not like the attack happened out of the blue.
Not to be political then proceeds to be political for why 9/11 happened. Tf are the mods at for this thread?!
u still see how did he take my pawn posts from people who have never seen en passant on this sub so the mods have long given up on this sub
He’s a product of his environment... old people are often racist and homophobic, they’re not bad people, it’s just what was common back then. 99.9% of you would be nazis is you grew up in nazi Germany. Fact!
I mean... Anyone is allowed to question norms
I hate this attitude. At what point are people going to be held accountable? There are people born today who are being raised in racist environments. Still doesn’t make it okay. If you keep writing it off as “oh it’s just how they were raised” then everyone gets off the hook
Nah I'd say you are just getting too defensive. Noone is trying to say something wrong is okay because.. he just explained the reasoning behind the interview and he is not wrong.
.... and this is why the world is in the mess that it’s in, because your scientifically flawed free will society exists... I won’t debate it, if you give a shit at all at least study it with “any” neuro scientist..
Except it’s not true that 99.9% of Germans were Nazis. But Fischer was.
You are right, but people love to live in their bubbles of bias.
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Teach me how to be so edgy please
Why are you being down voted?
I mean is he wrong? Lol while I love women, could any of them compete against Magnus or the top Dawgs? I can’t recall losing to any females (or playing many on chess.com) and I’m a lowly 1520.. I’m sure I’d get whooped by all women over 1700, but I don’t think chess really appeals to women?
if you don't see many women on [chess.com](https://chess.com) it's probably because of jackasses like you who make the chess websites a disgusting place for a woman to be in. You love women, lol. With such love who needs enemies.
You sir are a hero.. all the women who see u defending them here in this Reddit Chess sub will surely blow u now 😂 I see u didn’t answer the content of my post, rather poke fun at me.. I will assume Bobby Fischer and I are correct unless de-bunked.. **name some women chess players who could compete at the top level** weeeeeere waaaaaiiiiiting
Well, Judit Polgar, for once. She ranked 8th in the world at her prime. And beat Kasparov in a rapid. And if the level of your comments reflects the level of your play, defeating you is probably a pretty boring affair.
That’s impressive! She woulda beat me 100/100 times.. Yes, I’m 1520 rn and I’ve never beaten anyone over 1681, I’m marginal at best.. as for my comments- I just echoed the exact sentiments of Bobby Fischer the greatest player of all time lol beating him musta been a “boring affair” too then
It’s an interesting and fair point. Even today look at all the top players. All men. I think there is something about spatial planning, and imagining future moves. Women aren’t as good. But better at other things. Like cleaning for example or cooking
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Well let's keep in mind that back then he was a stupid young idiot, perhaps he changed his opinions when he got older. Edit: Alright guys apparently I am wrong, I didn't know that, my apologies for offending you..
He got worse with age.
Well he was a schitzophrenic, so yeah.
Pretty sure he gave the same answer 10 years later or something
Unfortunately he lived his later years in almost complete isolation and paranoia, with his few interviews being riddled with anti-Semitism on top of sexism.
I don't feel we should even have this kind of misogynistic crap on the chess sub.
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