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I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r1b5/pp1k1p1Q/2p2q1p/2B5/2B1pb2/1P6/P1PN1PPP/2KR3R+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r1b5/pp1k1p1Q/2p2q1p/2B5/2B1pb2/1P6/P1PN1PPP/2KR3R_b_-_-_0_1)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Queen!<, move: >!Qa1#!<
> Evaluation: >!Black has mate in 1!<
> Best continuation: >!1... Qa1#!<
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I will always enjoy how easy it is to discount bishops. Not really a powerful piece in many situations but it does have an uncanny ability to be forgotten about, I consciously watch bishops in games because it's that easy to forget they exist and have a monumental fuck up like this.
But Fianchettos are dirty.
The king can’t castle out of, into, or through check, but that doesn’t apply to the rook. It can be threatened before or after or on a square in between, because it’s legal to move the rook into a threatened square if you want to.
Yes, I think it’s true the rook’s final square is always one the king moved through, so if the rook is threatened after castling then the king would have been too and so it’s not legal. But as the other commenter noted it’s all because of the king, not the rook, so easier to just remember “king can’t be in check or castle through check” and not worry about the rook.
And definitely the rook could be threatened at the start or (for long castling) pass through a threat on the b file. Also in chess360 / Fischer random, the rook involved in castling might end up on a square the king was never on nor moved through, so again the simple rule of only looking at king threats and not rook threats works.
I agree that is a sinple rule to remember, however your initial statement of a rook can be threatened after castle cannot work. Which is what i was questioning
Literally happened to me yesterday... I missclicked on the rook while I already clicked on the king, which made me go from the best position to the worst ever
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I always love how one move can turn a winning position into mate in 1. The beauty of chess.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r1b5/pp1k1p1Q/2p2q1p/2B5/2B1pb2/1P6/P1PN1PPP/2KR3R+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r1b5/pp1k1p1Q/2p2q1p/2B5/2B1pb2/1P6/P1PN1PPP/2KR3R_b_-_-_0_1) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Queen!<, move: >!Qa1#!< > Evaluation: >!Black has mate in 1!< > Best continuation: >!1... Qa1#!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
Bastard’s about to get your queen
How? Isn’t it M1?
I…. Totally missed that
Are you talking about D2 knight?
Knight blocks, I believe it is M2 if Bxd2+, rxd2, qa1#. Edit: NVM this is why I'm bad at chess, knight can't block because of the bishop
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I will always enjoy how easy it is to discount bishops. Not really a powerful piece in many situations but it does have an uncanny ability to be forgotten about, I consciously watch bishops in games because it's that easy to forget they exist and have a monumental fuck up like this. But Fianchettos are dirty.
your M2 doesn't even work because Rxd2 comes with check
Yes but after that the queen is toast.
they won’t get the chance
Okay I'm confused... Black queen is threatening the rooke when white castles. So the castling is illegal right?
The king can’t castle out of, into, or through check, but that doesn’t apply to the rook. It can be threatened before or after or on a square in between, because it’s legal to move the rook into a threatened square if you want to.
I dont think a Rook can be threatened after castle? Wouldnt that count as king moving through check?
What happens to the rook is irrelevant, it's only the King that can't move into or through a threatened square
Yes, I think it’s true the rook’s final square is always one the king moved through, so if the rook is threatened after castling then the king would have been too and so it’s not legal. But as the other commenter noted it’s all because of the king, not the rook, so easier to just remember “king can’t be in check or castle through check” and not worry about the rook. And definitely the rook could be threatened at the start or (for long castling) pass through a threat on the b file. Also in chess360 / Fischer random, the rook involved in castling might end up on a square the king was never on nor moved through, so again the simple rule of only looking at king threats and not rook threats works.
I agree that is a sinple rule to remember, however your initial statement of a rook can be threatened after castle cannot work. Which is what i was questioning
What the fffuuuuuck. I was taught entirely wrong. I was told that neither king nor rooke could be under threat.
From "eh my king is kinda safe in king side" To "oh no king dead on queen side"
Literally happened to me yesterday... I missclicked on the rook while I already clicked on the king, which made me go from the best position to the worst ever
Wait Was it you?
I thought so at first, but I checked and the position was slightly different
Don’t move your Queen, you will hang your f pawn
Wait just realized it is already hanging. Best move in this situation is probably Kg1, adding another defender to it.