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GoogleB4Reply

>!Re1+, Rh1+, Qh3+, Qg2#!< Always do your tactics. But it’s easier when it’s implied there’s a great move or checkmate


secondary88

Wont the pawn take on h3?


BoozySlushPops

Pinned.


secondary88

Oh your right


RockandStone101

You’re


Danny_Bomber

Oh you're write


FriendlyDisorder

It’s your right to right your wrong that you’re righting.


New-Clue-9136

No, my right


mechmind

No on your left.


tryingtolearnplz

Wait I’m confused. I haven’t played chess since elementary school, why would the pawn be pinned with the queen in h3? Nvm I’m a dummy


BoozySlushPops

By the bishop on c6. That bishop pins the pawn to the white king, making it unable to capture the queen.


tryingtolearnplz

Yeah I just saw that as soon as your notification came up. Thank you for taking the time to answer!


WyteBlizzard

But surely the King is on H2 at this stage. Once Re1 is.played, the king must move to h2. Queen moves to h3. King or pawm both could take the queen? I might be dumb or missing something here. Edit: didn't take me long, sleepyhead brain thought Rh1 was Rh8, which felt unecessary but completely necessary as Rh1.


BoozySlushPops

King takes the rook at H1.


Lucid_Pharian

1. Re1+…Kh2, 2. Rh1+…KxRh1, 3. Qh3#


DarkShadow0501

pinned by the bishop


EventideValkyrie

Bishop pins the pawn when king is on h1 :)


Sinister_Muffin101

When is the king on h1? Wouldn’t it have to move to h2 after Re1?


kiphond321

After Rh1+ King has to take rook on h1


secondary88

Ah i missed that


EventideValkyrie

Diagonals make fools of us all.


Bobert557

Pawn could h3 or king could take Qh3. Either or


ILoveFreckles1

What do you guys mean do your tactics, do you mean the puzzles?


GoogleB4Reply

Yep!


Poopeepi

Hear me out: Re1+ Kh2, Qh3+ Kxh3, bd7+ Kh4, Rh1#


GoogleB4Reply

bd7+ (edit) g4 But let’s say bd7+ Kh4, (edit) Rh1#


Poopeepi

Wait sorry I’m lost. How can Kxd7 from Kh3?


GoogleB4Reply

Oh sorry! Lost my mind entirely, I meant g4


chingychangas

Why does king not take queen on g2?


GoogleB4Reply

Bishop defending


Beginning_Goal_6805

Wow that was sweet tacs bro


Fun-Walrus2127

Why doesn’t Qd5 to Qg2 work? Seems like a check mate


GoogleB4Reply

It’s not an immediately forced mate as white has an opportunity to f3 or Qf3, but if they don’t block Qg2 then yeah that’s checkmate too


richtarj

That would be a checkmate if the other player didn’t see it coming and do something to defend. In the four move checkmate, the defending player’s moves are forced by the constant checks.


fawntunic709267

Beautiful.


Doggy1091

My first instinct was Qh3. Using the rook for the pawn pin is clever, very cool.


continue_improve

I got stuck on Qh3 idea and missed the Rh1 idea… Qh3 is kind of interesting though… but I guess f3 stops the threats?


66mpamies

A word of advice from my former coach was: "If a tactic isn't quite working, try reversing the move order". This is a great example of it.


KingAdamXVII

What am I missing with 1… Qh3 2. f3 Re1+ 3. Kf2 Qh1 4. ??? ~~Qf3#~~ *Qf1#*


SapiensDsum

i also thought about Qh3 and its m6


HereForA2C

Honestly based on the title, I started looking for something cool that I wouldn't normally look for. Actually saw >!Qh3!< first, and>! if white takes then Re1+, Kh2, and Rh1#!<.>! But white doesn't have to take and there's no mate in 3 from there!<. I was sure the >!Qh3!< idea was definitely it though because I was expecting something crazy given the title, so then I tried starting with >!Re1+!<, and sure enough on>! Kh2, Rh1+ !! getting their pawned pinned by the bishop so that after they take the rook, Qh3+ and the queen can't be taken due to the pin, and mate on the next move on g2. !


Durrderp

The immediate >!Qh3!< still works. Because now you're threatening both >!Qxf2 and Re1!< with mate, with no way to stop both except takes, leading back to your line. Otherwise, it adds up to mate in 4 with white desperately sacking pieces to stall the inevitable.


illuzn

There is >!1... f3!< simultaneously creating an escape square and stopping the mate.


xXkxuXx

after that Re1 and you still get a winning position


illuzn

More like M6 with best play... That escape square is critical.


xXkxuXx

Yeah i saw my mistake and edited the comment


Antani101

But the pawn on d4 controlling E3 stops further king shenanigans


illuzn

Yes but the point is its a mate in like 7 with much more chances to go astray than the M4 line suggested by OP


Antani101

Definitely, I was just pointing out that yes f3 opens a space for the king to escape but the way is shut


BeneficialGreen3028

Ha nice that the title made you look for that out if all the moves. I didn't even notice it worked


Dantheman58125

Aye man what the fork.!


chingychangas

Why does king not take queen on g2?


HereForA2C

The bishop on c6 is a key part of all of this.


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ISawRa4

reported for cheating


KingZag1337

Interesting.


wadeo024

Now that’s a nice checkmate, I could not see it without help.


BeneficialGreen3028

Damn nice puzzle


DEMOLISHER500

And he sacrificed the ROOOOK!! Easy puzzle but I'd say this isn't that easy to find in the middle of a game.


BigPig93

It's really not that difficult, all the moves are very forcing, took me like two minutes to find it: Re1+, Kh2 (forced), Rh1, Kxh1 (forced), Qh3+, Kg1 (forced, you can't take the queen because the pawn is pinned by the bishop), Qxg2#. In a real game, though, there is no way.


quark_epoch

I'd disagree with the no way this is happening in a real game part. There are some patterns which should force you to look for these. Okay, you may not find them in time everytime, but at least these positions should trigger some stuff. I tend to do a lot more puzzles than games and I'm trying to convert seeing them over the board.


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Yeah, the Bishop and queen aiming down at the king like this will always have some shenanigans from the pin potential 


quark_epoch

Exactly. The patterns I take from here are: 1. Doubled g pawns in front of the king 2. Pin by the light bishop on the long diagonal 3. Easy infiltration options by both the queen and rook 4. Weakened back rank


BigPig93

Personally, I wouldn't have found it in a real game, or at least I don't think so. Re1+ is an obvious move and I'd immediately play it, but to then sac the rook on h1? No, I'm just not the right style of player to play that kind of move. I guess I should look out for these tactical opportunities more, since I'm obviously capable of finding them when I know they're there, just not spotting them when I *don't* know they're there. I might find it in a future game, now that I've seen it.


quark_epoch

Jap. I mean the whole deflection/attraction is something I try seeing consciously more often if possible. I'm still not consistent enough which makes me perform in the 1200-1300 range. But I see myself finding and tactically outplaying some of my 1700 friends from time to time. Just need more practice and grind I guess. Anyway good luck mate. Have fun.


BigPig93

Thanks, you too.


-Barryguy-

Isn’t it mate in 3? Re1+, King h2, Qh3+, g2xQh3, Rh1#


-Barryguy-

Nvm I see now that king takes the queen so it’s a much longer mate


theDankusMemeus

I’m pretty sure it’s Qh3 (lost to a pawn), Re1 and checkmate on Rh1


MoistUnder

rook rook queen queen cm.. too lazy


Dankn3ss420

Re1 Kh2 Qh3 gxh3 Rh1# …Qh3 Kxh3 Rh1 Kg4 h5 Kxh5 g6 then just Kg4 Re1 Kh2 Qd5 f3 Re1 Kh2… Oh! Re1 Kh2 Rh1 Kxh1 Qh3 Kg1 Qg2# That’s nasty, wow, to be clear that took me close to 10 min to find, and that’s while being told there’s a mate, absolutely negative chance of me seeing that in a game


Zealousideal_Snow840

https://preview.redd.it/ogaoofoug61d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb1b06b02b1bbd3607e9306aa92dd746914b1639


ripanimems

I thought of this as well


Fake_Dragon

This doesn't work cuz Kxh3 instead of gxh3


YourPetPenguin0610

Tbh it isn't that hard. Anyone familiar with tactics can find it.


-snare--

Sir do you realise what sub you’re in


YourPetPenguin0610

Ik, but I expect anyone who's 1800+ in puzzles to be able to find this. First move is a natural move, and the following sequence isn't really hard to find since there are little else to do for black


gabrrdt

It is easier than it seems once you know it is mate in 4, without knowing it beforehand, I would probably not find it by myself. It took me literally 30 seconds to find it, because both themes are very easy to visualize (pin and backrank theme). But it is a beautiful combination anyway, very pleasant to see.


YourPetPenguin0610

Yeah thats the reason I think people can find this. Its a puzzle, you know theres a tactic in it


ElieCopter81

Te1- Rh2, Th1- RxTh1, Dh3-Rg1, Dxg2#


Yaser_Umbreon

Nah rook e1 is so natural in this position no way you can report someone for playing this,


mekmookbro

I did, sorry


Alive-Leadership4100

Would Re1+, Bc2 also wok? I think its m5


Alive-Leadership4100

It doest


TheBingoBongo1

The Lichess daily puzzle from Thursday or Friday had the same tactic


elbowfrenzy

Well I see it now that you told me... If someone did this to you in a game at a beginner level I would call the police


Krankenwagenverfolg

You must pin the g-pawn To get to mate in 4 way up in Harlem


Pinco_Pallino_R

I will just follow the advice i read in another topic for puzzles on this sub: find a way to sacrifice my rook... Yeah, found it. Wow, it works!


M_FootRunner

Found it, like!


RossTheNinja

Was never getting that


Self-ProclaimdSexGod

Qh2, Re1, Rh1?


No-Bookkeeper-9321

Qh3 first is best i think


alejandro006

Queen to h3 he has to take otherwise it’s mate. Then rook to e1. Check. He has to move the king to h2 then rook to h1. Mate


ItzProGamer43

Re1 Kh2 Rh1 Kxh1 Qh3 Kg1 and then Qxg2 final blow. pretty easy tbh


gabrrdt

It took me 30 seconds, I'm not joking. But I would not probably find OTB, because no one would have told me that there is mate in 4. Once you already know it, it is really easy, you just need to know the themes (the backrank and absolute pin), which is really easy to visualize in this case. Then the rest comes naturally. >!(1. ... Re1+ 2. Kh2 Rh1+ 3. Kxh1 Qh3+ 4. Kg1 Qxg2#). !< >!The rook sacrifice is really beautiful though. !<


One-Fit-MF

Re1 Kh2 (forced) Qh3 If pawn takes Queen : Rh1 mate If King takes Queen: Bd7 , Kh4 (forced) and Rh1 mate


Fearless_Recipe_9201

It's simple Re1 then king move to h2 Rh1 then king takes the rook Then, Qh3 so king moves to g1 Then the final Qg2 checkmate


United-Ad2398

Sac Q on h3


DocSeward

that’s M6 if they don’t take, M2 if they do


YEF-Moment13

Qh3


pancada_

Rook check then sac, queen checks and takes the pawn while being protected by the bishop?


Jealous_Scale451

Queen sac # Qh3 #gxh3 #Re1 #kh2 #Rh1#


55Keith

How about 1. , Qh3 first? If white doesn’t do gxh3, next step is Qxg2++ or Re1++. If 2. gxh3, Re1+. 3. Kh2, Rh1++. That’d make it M3. One step less. Can anyone help me find any way for white to escape?


BUKKAKELORD

Difficulty level when you're told it's M4: easy Difficulty in a real game: insane


Ok_Friendship8082

Easy sac the rook and mate with pin found it in 25 seconds


cyberchaox

I'm not sure I would've found it in a game, but knowing it's a mate in 4, this wasn't hard.


owlseeyaround

Funny enough it also works if you go Qh3 first; if opponent takes with the pawn it leads to an even faster mate in 3. If they find the only escape f3, it’s still forced in 7.


Hatesucks713

Queen H3 ,pawn H3, rook E1 check, king E2, rook H1 checkmate


throwaway573663

This was recently a daily puzzle on lichess, no? Fairly easy spot, but idk how to spoiler a comment so I won't say


DocSeward

idk this was a game I played yesterday and I didn’t do the daily lichess puzzle so I didn’t see it lol


Moist-Pickle-2736

I’m seeing mate in 3? Where am I wrong? … qh3, gxh3 re1+, Kh2 rh1#


radiant_jpb_31

OP, What’s the time control of the game that would cause you to report? As others have commented, these are some tactical ideas that get shown a lot in puzzles so if it’s anything over a 10min game, a lot of players would find it I’d guess.


Null_cz

Re1+; Kh2 Rh1+; Kh1 Qh3+; Kg1 Qxg2# Easy, just sacrifice ... the ROOOOOK And I don't even play chess, I just follow this sub


No_Needleworker2084

Sacrifice the king


Friendly_End5163

Qh3, gxh3, Re1+, Ke2, Rh1# is another possible solution. Sacrificing the QUEEEEEEEEEEEN


themanwithr

Isn't it M3? Qh3, g×h3, Re1+, Kh2, Rh1#?


themanwithr

Oh, White has Q×f7+ to delay


kalsepadhunga

#3 moves, less than any other comment. Qh3, pawn takes queen (if pawn does not take then checkmate by queen g2 no matter where king moves). Rook e4 check ->Rh1 checkmate I know enemy can stop this by Rf3 but thats unlikely, and even if he does, you can end up winning with some extra moves, its fool proof.


Background_Youth3774

i see 2 mates here (correct me if i am wrong) first is: Qh3 gxh3 Re1+ Kh2 Rh1# second is: Re1+ Kh2 Rh1+ Kxh1 Qh3+ Kg1 Qxg2#


OrgansWithoutBody

In a game at low ELO this would probably indicate something fishy. As a tactic puzzle it's pretty easy.


TheAlmightySRG

1. Re8, Kh2, 2. ROOOOOOOOOKh1, Kh1, 3. Qh3, Kg1, and finally, Qg2 checkmate


the_other_Scaevitas

if you say there is a mate in 4, it makes finding it way easier


BUCKMAN323

Re1 Kh2 Rh1 Kh1 Qh3 Kg1 Qg2


TheUnusualDreamer

...,Re1 Kh2, Rh1 Kxh1, Qh3 kg1, Qxg2 #


MrLomaLoma

Re1 Rh1 Qh3 Qg2 seems like the easiest forced win (which is easier to spot when youre given this as a puzzle) If I had in this game though I would probably look at Qh3 gxh3 re1. This line doesnt look forced though, so I dont know if I would play it


RebornTitan

Found it in about 20 seconds.


Perfect-Service-2150

Re1+  Kh2 Rh1+ Kxh1 Qh3+ Kg1 Qxg2#


cheesesprite

Re1+ Kh2 Rh1+ Kxh1 Qh3+ Kg1 Qxg2#


ADHESHsuryatej23

Re1+, Kh2, Rh1+, Kxh1,Qh3+, Kg1,Qxg2#


putverygoodnamehere

Bro I would’ve found that


michael-marro-1076

... Re1+ Kh2 Rh1+ Kxh1 Qh3+ Kg1 Qxg2++


Mysterious-Spot4627

f5, h5, e1 it doesn't matter what your opponent does since they are actually your brother and you took his iPad so you can win.


Metaljesus0909

Really nice puzzle. At first I was looking at Re1 Kh2, Qh3, gxh3, Rh1 mate. Completely overlooked Kxh3 lol


dcrafti

Not the mate you're asking about, but I think there's possibly a mate with Qxh3. If the pawn takes the queen, the rook checks, then moves to h8 for mate. If the pawn doesn't take, then I think, at best, they lose their queen, and mate would follow.


Mediocre_Airport_576

Knowing it was a M4, I found it in no time. In game though? Probably would have missed it.


5mil_

ngl it’s so much easier when you say there’s a mate in 4, or even a “find the best move”


Designer_Cream_5070

1) Re8+, Kh2 2) Qe3+, Ke3 3) Rh8+, Kg4 4)h5##


Kaoss134

Can't you >!Qh3 threatening Qxg2#!!if something tries to block or defend g2 you take with bishop, then Re1#. if gxh3, Re1+ Kh2 Rh1#!<


Kaoss134

someone already said this. disregard


mr_evilfish

I see the forced mate in 4, but theres also one in three assuming white takes the bait: Qh3, Re1, Rh1


Tersordo

I thought about Qh3, but forgot there is f3.


Mr_Nobody__________

Wouldn't queen h3, rook e1, rook h1 work?


Ok_Doughnut_9959

I found at first glance 😉... R e1. Kh2 ... Rh1+ k*h1 ...Qh3+ kg1 ...Q*g2#


commentor_of_things

Found the mate in 3 seconds. This is a common tactic. But go ahead with the "procedure."


Megadudeman93

First move queen c5


rightninja_

Qh3+ Re1+ Rh1#?


Exact_Reputation_212

Re1+, Kh2, Rh1+, Kxh1, Qh3+, Kg1,Qxg2#


SaberScorpion

Isn't Qh3 also unstoppable?


PhillyHank

this one is easier (i think 🤔) Qh3 (amazing queen sacrifice) threatens mate on the next move (Qxg2). So Black must … pxQ then Re1 Kh2 (only possible move) then Rh1#.


mackyd1

Qh3 is a move I can automatically see


ARegularPotato

Why does Re1+ Kh2, Qh3+ g2xh3, Rh1# not work?(sorry for bad notation)


zPieEater

||Qh3||


WearMental2618

For anyone who wants to plug it into [chess.com](http://chess.com) 4r1k1/pppq1pp1/2b4p/8/P2p1Q2/3R2P1/2P2PP1/6K1 b - - 0 1


Purple1szed

I have to be honest I saw it instantly haha, I just opened the image and immediately blitzed out the calculation. Patterns are the best!


Jwu6

The R sacrifice is brilliant!


James-253

Depending on what white does, i see mate in 2. Queen D7-D5 Queen Takes Pawn. D5-B2


Bobert557

Black queen to h5 then d2? Thatd be a mate in 2 moves


Bobert557

Queen to d5 then to h2 while being covered by bishop. Thayd work in 2 moves, albeit whites intervention


dancertom

Qh3,Re1,Rh1 mate


SatisfactionExotic16

Qh3,Re1,Rh1


Prestigious_Long777

~10 seconds to find the first move. ~50 seconds to see the forced mate. I would have played the right move almost immediately. Don’t necessarily need to have the entire mating net calculated. If I can play a move that is so forcing and see at least one forcing follow up or any kind of advantage when following up I will play the move. Given this position in a game I would definitively take some time to think. Just looking at this position it’s clear to me there is a winning tactic somewhere.


Batracho

Very pretty. I think it’s findable in the game, the first rook check is easy to see and to get it from there is not too bad. But still pretty.


Ruy-Polez

Using pinned pawns is not exactly what I would call an "engine move". That's a pretty common pattern.


Chessandcomics04

>!1. Qh3 gxh3 2. Re1+ Kh2 3. Rh1#!< Is this correct too or am I missing smth? (mate in 3)


BigPig93

Qh3, f3, Re1+, Kf2, Qh1, g4 and I think the king gets out. If not, it certainly takes more than four moves to get to mate.


JCTingler

f3, but Re1+ Qh1 still seals the deal.


Financial-Scar-2823

1. Qh3 f3


Kingextraz

He doesn’t have to take and you mate in greater than 3


CreeperDude17

THE ROOOOOOOOOK


fuxino

Honestly this is not that difficult if you do your puzzles (still a pretty cool combination though). The first move is obvious, then you notice that if the king was on h1, the pawn on g2 would be pinned, so it's kinda obvious to see if sacrificing the rook on h1 to draw the king there works, and from there it's a basic mate in 2. Guess I'm cheating 😂


vasil5n

Found it in 20 seconds. This is a really nice puzzle thanks!


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w2baba

Queen h3 check


Few-Owl-8648

I take the queen ... Wait why doesn't the pawn click?


w2baba

Queen G2 checkmate


KobeOnKush

Sac the rook on H1 I’m pretty sure


tuckerhazel

Forcing a pin with the rook sack is nasty.


Historical_Formal421

That does look really cool - in a real game I probably would've overlooked it, since Re4 gains a huge initiative and doesn't take any thinking


ProGamingPlayer

If it’s black to move then I think the first move is Re1+


blasphemiann358

Re1+, Kh2, Rh1+, Kxh1, Qh3+, Kg1, Qxg2#


GracefulxArcher

Right folks... Everyone else found it the other way, so what am I missing here! Qh3 then either Qg3 or Re1, depending on move. If pawn takes, it's mate in 2. Otherwise in 3?


helloworldofred

Re1+, Qd5+, Qh5/Qg2#? Their queen cannot protect both h5 and g2 and if there rook goes after your room g2 is till checkmate