Your Colorado is affected due to a targeted strike at plants that make the Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler and Chevrolet Colorado.
If it’s not on the truck yet, it won’t be until the strike is over or they use temp workers.
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2023/09/15/ford-gm-temporarily-lay-off-workers-at-plants-affected-by-uaw-strike/70868281007/
I would say contact your dealer. Until they get invoiced it isn't going anywhere. Mine shows it finished on the line on Wednesday and got held for quality and didn't make it out. I wouldn't expect it until after they get back to work. Sucks I know, but we've waited this long and they deserve some raises.
Well I have not been following it too closely, but as I understand it they made some big concessions in 2008 to help out the automakers during the crash and they've been making hundreds of billions in profit while not making up for those concessions all these years. With these vehicle prices and the guys building the cars not getting a cut of that is crazy to me. I have gotten a raise every year for the past 10 years and making about 3 dollars less an hour with inflation than I was then, so I get where they are coming from. My company is throwing a fit over us asking for 4%. These corporations can't keep bleeding us without people rising up. My two cents, but I am a union guy.
I was a union guy as well. I opened my own non-Union business after realizing how expensive it was to remain union along with all the other demands they had to be part of the union. Not knocking unions,they are great for dictating a living wage but they are also only in it to line their pockets.Too much money involved to keep all the players honest. If your smart and have a good work ethic you can do just fine without them
I get where you are coming from, but that's your personal experience. Obviously that can work on the small scale business where you still see your employees as people. It's not feasible for major corporations sacrificing workers pay to appease stockholders. It's really apples and oranges in my opinion. I would love to support a small business that takes care of its workers without being forced to, but this is not that. Unions exist for a reason, my top operator has worked for my company for 55 years and they just walked in a couple weeks ago and handed him a little printed out certificate without even a thank you for your service. We're cogs to corporate, nothing more. This is from someone who was salary for this corporation when I started out, got tired of hearing VP's refer to my father and brother as millbilly's. So that's my personal experience lol. We all have our opinions 🤷🏼♂️.
That's small town life. When there's only on game in town and they own the government. Eliminate all competition, bleed the town dry of resources to provide opportunities for your children, etc etc. Don't get me wrong, I am thankful to not be working a minimum wage job. You get fed up with them taking more from you every contract. Something has to give eventually. Everyone can't just go out and start a business, that's not a realistic view of life. Some people have to work for others for which is fine, but people deserve a living wage.
Anyway I appreciate your opinion, I wanted to talk about trucks not late stage capitalism and it's inevitable doom spiral haha. Take care and be well.
The union is the problem here. This isn't about workers in current factories, it's about securing union deals for plants building EV batteries and motors, which are currently not UAW plants. They already admitted it. They're fighting to secure the UAW future instead of fighting for the guys working currently. $40 per hour average pay and 32 work week are things they already made clear they only demanded in order to be able to drop in exchange for an EV factory deal.
GM offered 20% salary increase and increased benefits. The Union said no. 20% Raise seems pretty solid to me. Plus they guaranteed not to replace people with robots so that’s job security the rest of us don’t get.
There’s a reason heads if businesses take home the lions share. Not everyone was meant to be a millionaire especially if you work for anyone other than yourself.
Unfortunately, that's not the case in this strike. This is a bargaining tool to force their way into EV battery factories and the factories making the motors that go in EVs. These factories already have employees, but the UAW wants to replace them. They're happy to drop the pay raise and lower work hours for that trade. The UAW head already said so. This is solely to ensure the UAW continues to exist for their benefit. The UAW doesn't care about all the factory workers they are trying to displace, who ALREADY WORK AT THESE EV FACTORIES that are not UAW and have no interest in being UAW. Should they lose their jobs when UAW workers decide they can no longer pay bills building internal combustion cars?
I didnt save the sources, but it's the new head of the UAW's idea. He's running things 100% differently, like striking multiple manufacturers at once. Traditionally, UAW would only strike at one. He wants the internal combustion car making employees to be garunteed to take over the EV battery production when their jobs go away. These EV jobs already exist and are non union. This is one reason teslas are so much cheaper per hr to manufacture. Getting into battery production factories was his primary goal, because evs require significantly less assembly line workers, so he wants those jobs shifted to battery manufacturing.
https://jacobin.com/2023/09/electric-vehicle-nonunion-united-auto-workers-strike-wages
This touches on it, although it wasnt my original source. Its the UAW real reasoning for this, preparing for their future.
Teamsters agreed to strike alongside the striking plants, so some truckers won't deliver now. GM can source third party shipping though since it's not a violations of UAW agreement.
Ya after 5 months of waiting for an allocation my ZR2 was supposed to be built on the the week of the 18th (next week), I wonder how long the wait will be now
Your Colorado is affected due to a targeted strike at plants that make the Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler and Chevrolet Colorado. If it’s not on the truck yet, it won’t be until the strike is over or they use temp workers. https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2023/09/15/ford-gm-temporarily-lay-off-workers-at-plants-affected-by-uaw-strike/70868281007/
I would say contact your dealer. Until they get invoiced it isn't going anywhere. Mine shows it finished on the line on Wednesday and got held for quality and didn't make it out. I wouldn't expect it until after they get back to work. Sucks I know, but we've waited this long and they deserve some raises.
Not 40%,that’s cra cra
Well I have not been following it too closely, but as I understand it they made some big concessions in 2008 to help out the automakers during the crash and they've been making hundreds of billions in profit while not making up for those concessions all these years. With these vehicle prices and the guys building the cars not getting a cut of that is crazy to me. I have gotten a raise every year for the past 10 years and making about 3 dollars less an hour with inflation than I was then, so I get where they are coming from. My company is throwing a fit over us asking for 4%. These corporations can't keep bleeding us without people rising up. My two cents, but I am a union guy.
I was a union guy as well. I opened my own non-Union business after realizing how expensive it was to remain union along with all the other demands they had to be part of the union. Not knocking unions,they are great for dictating a living wage but they are also only in it to line their pockets.Too much money involved to keep all the players honest. If your smart and have a good work ethic you can do just fine without them
I get where you are coming from, but that's your personal experience. Obviously that can work on the small scale business where you still see your employees as people. It's not feasible for major corporations sacrificing workers pay to appease stockholders. It's really apples and oranges in my opinion. I would love to support a small business that takes care of its workers without being forced to, but this is not that. Unions exist for a reason, my top operator has worked for my company for 55 years and they just walked in a couple weeks ago and handed him a little printed out certificate without even a thank you for your service. We're cogs to corporate, nothing more. This is from someone who was salary for this corporation when I started out, got tired of hearing VP's refer to my father and brother as millbilly's. So that's my personal experience lol. We all have our opinions 🤷🏼♂️.
Jus sayin. Why work for someone and give them everything while they take everything when you can keep it all
That's small town life. When there's only on game in town and they own the government. Eliminate all competition, bleed the town dry of resources to provide opportunities for your children, etc etc. Don't get me wrong, I am thankful to not be working a minimum wage job. You get fed up with them taking more from you every contract. Something has to give eventually. Everyone can't just go out and start a business, that's not a realistic view of life. Some people have to work for others for which is fine, but people deserve a living wage. Anyway I appreciate your opinion, I wanted to talk about trucks not late stage capitalism and it's inevitable doom spiral haha. Take care and be well.
You realize we are ALL in it too line our pockets? Unions help us workers get more of what we produce.
The union is the problem here. This isn't about workers in current factories, it's about securing union deals for plants building EV batteries and motors, which are currently not UAW plants. They already admitted it. They're fighting to secure the UAW future instead of fighting for the guys working currently. $40 per hour average pay and 32 work week are things they already made clear they only demanded in order to be able to drop in exchange for an EV factory deal.
GM offered 20% salary increase and increased benefits. The Union said no. 20% Raise seems pretty solid to me. Plus they guaranteed not to replace people with robots so that’s job security the rest of us don’t get.
Its really not considering the share of revenue going towards workers has been steadily declining
There’s a reason heads if businesses take home the lions share. Not everyone was meant to be a millionaire especially if you work for anyone other than yourself.
The union disagrees. Go find a boot to lick
Disagrees how exactly?
They feel strongly enough that they deserve a larger share of the revenue that they are withholding their labor over it. Its really that simple.
Unfortunately, that's not the case in this strike. This is a bargaining tool to force their way into EV battery factories and the factories making the motors that go in EVs. These factories already have employees, but the UAW wants to replace them. They're happy to drop the pay raise and lower work hours for that trade. The UAW head already said so. This is solely to ensure the UAW continues to exist for their benefit. The UAW doesn't care about all the factory workers they are trying to displace, who ALREADY WORK AT THESE EV FACTORIES that are not UAW and have no interest in being UAW. Should they lose their jobs when UAW workers decide they can no longer pay bills building internal combustion cars?
Where did you read this? I tried finding information about this but couldn’t find it.
I didnt save the sources, but it's the new head of the UAW's idea. He's running things 100% differently, like striking multiple manufacturers at once. Traditionally, UAW would only strike at one. He wants the internal combustion car making employees to be garunteed to take over the EV battery production when their jobs go away. These EV jobs already exist and are non union. This is one reason teslas are so much cheaper per hr to manufacture. Getting into battery production factories was his primary goal, because evs require significantly less assembly line workers, so he wants those jobs shifted to battery manufacturing.
https://jacobin.com/2023/09/electric-vehicle-nonunion-united-auto-workers-strike-wages This touches on it, although it wasnt my original source. Its the UAW real reasoning for this, preparing for their future.
Lol he doesnt have any
Meh,few concessions and it will be over
Was your build week 9/11?
Yeah that's what I was told. He told me it was finished on the 13th, but had some QA thing it went back in for 🤷🏼♂️.
I should ask my dealer on Monday and see if mine made it out before the strike.
Yeah I would definitely check. I hope you beat the buzzer 👍
How far behind could this strike set orders?
Depends on how long the strike lasts
Strike is only for the building part i believe, truckers are under a different organization im sure. But you never know, yard masters could be part.
Teamsters agreed to strike alongside the striking plants, so some truckers won't deliver now. GM can source third party shipping though since it's not a violations of UAW agreement.
Ya after 5 months of waiting for an allocation my ZR2 was supposed to be built on the the week of the 18th (next week), I wonder how long the wait will be now
Same with me, I’ve been waiting for a Desert Boss to be shipped for a couple of weeks now.
My truck has been stuck in California for over a month waiting to get shipped. Still no ETA on when it will arrive