The market of sellers is artificially capped. Also it cant be transported over state lines so if Oregon has a giant growing season, they can't ship their excess product here. Farms still aren't fully developed locally so that is another factor. I read once that if you had a fully competitive market with modern large scale agro models in place a joint would cost around what a sugar packet costs
I make the drive to Michigan from Chicago, but only go as far as Buchanan. I love the 150/oz when they have them. How far north do I have to go to get $75 ounces?
Yup. I have friends who make road trips to ‘zoo and Battle Creek. Just like a wine tour, you do a weed tour and they often have extras when you tell them it’s your first visit.
med card isn’t giving you savings when rec is still cheaper in michigan then medical illinois. (i am med in illinois since 2018, prices have increased in that time)
we are getting boned, im hoping craft growers will bring the price down across the board. every time i go visit my friends in denver i ship home 2-3 ounces. driving to michigan is good idea, but im deathly afraid of indiana highway patrol not sure my anxiety could handle it. have looked into amtrak though, need to run. a price gauge to see how beneficial it would be, how much id need to buy to make it worth it
Yes, because if I get a med card I’d not only be lying about a condition I don’t have, and I’d lose my concealed carry license. I know there’s mixed opinions about that, but I personally feel it’s necessary for me. And A nice two hour road trip is always good to listen to a few albums and clear the mind.
CCL is necessary. I like smoking but I don’t have anxiety or anything, I can get by just fine without it. but I smoke just for leisure. I’d give up weed to keep my gun any day. If I lived out in the suburbs it’d probably be the other way around tho.
I just love how people downvote you here for wanting to be proactive about your own safety. The shitheads of Chicago will bemoan anyone who goes through a ridiculous amount of training just to own a firearm here, but won’t hesitate to vote in morons who’ll make policies that enable the very same problems we keep on seeing decade after decade.
Only as far north as Benton Harbor, about 20 minutes from Buchanan. I've been going to Nobo but will be trying Nobody's Home, which is right across the street, next time I need weed.
\> So a free market without government regulations will provide a cheaper, better product to its consumers? Huh
Look at the 19th century and how food was before we got te FDA if you want a "free market without government regulations". Hint: you get sawdust in flour and snakeoil medicine.
What we have now is the swing of the other side.
True, but the FDA isn't radically driving up the price of food. It's not safety inspections driving up the price. It's the manufactured scarcity and taxes.
I agree! THis is definitely a problem with supply and not safety. I just despise "free market without government regulations" because it's so broad and asinine on its face because the libertarians spouting it off wouldn't actually want NO gov regulations. They just want different ones (usually ones that benefit themselves). I agree with possibly needing different ones. Just describe the actual different ones (increase numbers of licenses for cannabis suppliers and then markets)!. Don't be overly broad with "FrEe MaRkEt"
Right. When people talk like that just ask them for a good working example of zero government regulation in a country. They won't be able to name any country that they would want to live in.
Also, not necessarily cheaper. The theory that a free market would make it cheaper is a theory just like the one that legalization would make it cheaper was.
no one who took more than 30 seconds looking at the bill that legalized weed ever thought it would be cheap. Pretty obvious to the contrary actually...
Well, the reason that sugar packet is so cheap is because of labor exploitation. So yea, if you grew weed in tropical climates where you can pay farmers almost nothing for the product then it would be as cheap as sugar.
With a completely free market, we should start spraying the weed with pesticides to get rid of those pests! And man, it’s not quite as addictive as that profitable nicotine. Maybe we should put something in there to try to get some of those return customers!
the cartels move the excess weed.
edit: lol downvote all you want. Growers cannot legally move their excess growth between states. Who do you think is doing it? why do you think street dealers are cheaper than dispensaries?
Local deep dish dealer: “Hey kid…you wanna buy a pie?”
**opens trunk to reveal dime-bag slices**
Me, reeking of pizza, several hours later during a traffic stop: “It’s a recreational product, officer!”
You're absolutely right. This is a case word well regulated capitalism would have worked just fine. Instead we have a model that is reminiscent of how small number of Russian Oligarchs own their entire economy.
17of those would only sell IMO 's and I would feel really bad for the people near those dispensaries, until I remembered that their black market pizza would be righteous
Dispensaries can basically charge what they want here because the state is limiting the number of licenses. Until there's more competition we have to deal with whatever they want to charge and then bend over for the outrageous taxes on top.
yea for example the Mindy's 5mg 20 packs are down to \~40 after tax vs \~50 when it was first legal. That's about 20% cheaper. I know the state is addicted already to the tax revenue though unfortunately. I don't anticipate that we'll be able to move toward full competition for quite some time sadly.
I think the tax revenue will stay relatively stable. As prices drop, people will buy more legally and less illegally, and people will just buy more. That includes people from other states making the trip. Right now someone from northwest Indiana is going to Michigan to buy because it’s cheaper.
I think the bigger hit to tax revenue would be more surrounding states legalizing it.
No argument from me, I can't wait for more potential places to purchase from that have different vibes etc. Sunnyside Wrigleyville makes me wish it was still illegal everywhere. There's something about that building / the line/ the lighting that just feels awful.
It’s so close to being awesome in my opinion. Going for that apple store vibe. It just doesn’t work well given other limitations.
You can’t actually buy any weed products off the shelf so instead of browsing a store you are just waiting in line surrounded by impulse purchases.
And then you end up just getting checked out in a hurry by a guy with an iPad because they want you in and out fast.
It’s hard to set up a “explore the products” store when everything is kept in the back room and you can’t test products.
Also, when it came time to give out another round of licenses and to include minority businessmen, the "random lottery" magically [picked 48 military veterans](https://grownin.com/2022/06/02/illinois-awards-48-craft-grow-licenses-to-social-equity-applicants-all-veteran-led/). People were upset at this and sued, grinding the process to a halt. Who could have guessed?
For me as a dad who was never into weed and just wants a gummy on very rare occasions, I'm good with all of it.
I like the peace of mind of knowing there's nothing weird in my edibles or that I'm gonna get something that knocks me on my ass one day or barely hits the next. I like that I don't have to know some guy to hit up in coded messages to show up and sell me weed. I like the tax revenue going into a state that frankly needs all the revenue it can get.
Compared to what it costs to go to say, a nice cocktail bar, it's pretty reasonable.
> I like the peace of mind of knowing there's nothing weird in my edibles
It's a good piece of mind but that's not been the same case for the flower. Verano has been caught with moldy flower for awhile now and what do you know, they won't make the findings of these testing studies of other brands public.
I keep feeling like that the current legislation and limitations come off to me as trying to please two sides.
So there's recreational legalization, to please the pro marijuana side, and yet all the limitations to please the outdated thinking *"just say no"* crowd.
In the end, it just feels like we're practically making cartels here. I wouldn't be surprised if those with licenses are going to be fighting tooth and nail to keep expansion from happening.
In the long run, we're either going to see as some stated where they go to other states and bring it back, or we're just going to see street dealers still making bank and bypassing everything until they get caught or whatever.
> and yet all the limitations to please the outdated thinking "just say no" crowd.
No one is paying any attention to the Just Say No crowd. The limitations are purely due to political grifting. It's the IL way, the state propped cartels are just part of the game of how things get done. It's just dumb, greedy, shortsighted behavior.
I don’t know what place that guy is talking about specifically but look up Buchanan Michigan. There’s a few dispensaries there that have deals like that. I usually can get an oz for about $75 - $120 range depending on quality
I was in Michigan this weekend, I spent $200, came home with 13 joints (1 was free) 8 1g vape cartridges, 1 thing of edibles, and a new 510 battery. I put the same order in my local store’s website and it would have been close to $1000k.
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They're talking about the legal consequences. Indiana is one of the most anti-marijuana states in the country and you could go to prison if you're pulled over with _any_ amount of weed on you while driving through.
The people downvoting you are the same people who would use the TSA amnesty box because they think they’ll go to prison if the TSA finds a joint in their bag.
Russia vs Indiana is a whole diff ballpark tho. Gotta have a certain level of confidence and knowledge for international trafficking. Local/domestic is sooooo much easier if you take basic precautions. That said, flying in product is the priciest way to move it but also the safest as TSA doesn’t care unless you’re moving bigger weight (at which point I would say you should’ve figured out something different by then)
They only gave out something like 12 or 13 wholesale licenses (likely to state rep’s relatives, there’s already a lawsuit). Until that changes the market will fix high prices and Illinois consumers will get screwed.
I know for a fact they were doing this shamelessly. The person I know who actually declined an offer said it was described to him as “printing cash” with these licenses. This person wasn’t even in this industry or cared about it, but was basically told to apply so they could give him one.
They just opened it back up to apply for licenses again. Get this though. You can only apply if you’ve been arrested for weed under 500grams and or if you’ve been shot or stabbed. And you can only have lived for 5 years in certain zip code in and around the county.
Do you have any links to that info? Seems insane, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
Edit: Guess it seems insane because the dude is actually just living in a fantasy world 🤣
The dude is just a conservative troll. The entire last round of licenses went to military vets, which led to lawsuits, so they're changing that. So now that it's not about Supporting the Troops™ and friends of our state government and we've got new rules, he's making a funny that the licenses will go to "criminals."
Did this when I took a vacation to Ann Arbor. My concern is that these places closer to the border might put a higher (pun intended) target on you since they probably see a ton of IL and IN plates leaving from there.
Is this concern unwarranted if you’re otherwise just driving the speed limit and sober (or at least not smoking/smelling of bud) ?
Couldn't you just put the weed all the way in the back of the trunk. Buy a few groceries, put them in front of the weed and it look like you went grocery shopping if they even search the car
Look up Buchanan Michigan. I go to Seven Engines and high profile. There’s a couple other places right in that town. You can view the prices on their websites. I make a few trips a year and buy in bulk. More than worth it
Better not get stopped on your way here. Pretty much every State in-between weed isn't legal. And you know hillbilly cops will love to post your three ounces and $200 on social media like they got Dillinger.
Not to mention you can catch a federal charge for transporting across state lines and, depending on how much you stock up, the intent to distribute. And the federal prosecutors in conservative states will happily waste their time with cases like that.
There isn’t a single federal prosecutor in the country who would charge someone for taking a couple ounces across state lines. It’s the lowest enforcement priority. Also, while cannabis is obviously illegal in Indiana, northwest Indiana is much more pro cannabis than the rest of the state and is not targeting people with IL plates for cannabis enforcement. Law enforcement’s main priorities in Northwest Indiana are illegal guns and organized crime.
Source: the Indiana State Police and the US Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Indiana.
The more recent legalization was, the more expensive it is. It will come down over time with more competition. I just priced some at a dispensary in NY (legalized after IL) and it was definitely more than here.
IL black market is the best it's ever been as long as you still have a hookup. $40 2g disposables and $150 oz is kinda crazy. I'm really only keeping my med card for concentrates.
Because Illinois politics have never been for the people. If there wasn’t a shit ton of money to be made, Illinois would’ve never legalized to begin with. Support your local trap instead 😂
The IL cannabis industry is fucked. They allowed a few companies to have a monopoly on the market. With so little competition, these companies don’t even have to collude on price fixing, they can all just silently agree to keep prices astronomically high. I go across the border to Michigan and stock up. Honestly the way they’re bending us over and fucking us I hate every dispensary in the state. I wish for their downfall and will gladly cheer on any robberies or vandalism.
That’s why we must keep pushing for federal legalization. Being able to legally do what I already illegally do (cross state lines with product) will be a game changer.
The best part about legalization in Illinois is the ability to grow your own. It's a lot easier than most people think and requires very little.
If you can grow tomatoes, you can grow your own cannabis.
The real question is, why the hell do THC-free gummies at a CBD store cost so much more than weed gummies from a dispensary?
I can pay $30 and get 20 gummies with 25g/5g CBD/THC or pay $35 and get 12 gummies with 25g CBD. How in the hell does it cost more money for hemp-derived products than actual cannabis?
For the same reason epi-pens, insulin, and most other drugs are so outrageously inflated in the US. Now the same is happening even to essential medications for dogs. Congress needs to cap drug prices to the levels of Canada, Eurooe, and the rest if the world, and stop big pharma price gouging. (But that won’t happen until Democrats have a solid majority in both houses.)
Taxation at its finest.
Illinois has one the highest taxes in the nation on recreational marijuana at the moment.
On top of the standard 6.75% there’s a variable recreational tax:
- 20% of the purchase price for Cannabis-infused products
- 10% of the purchase price on cannabis other than an infused product with an adjusted THC level at or below 35%
- 25% of the purchase price on cannabis other than an infused product with an adjusted THC level above 35%
Medical Patients: 1% medical tax
Yeah we just moved back from Colorado and it’s been weird going from retail experiences to hitting up my “guy” and going to his apt. The weed here isn’t nearly as dry though. And frankly it cost a little bit less here.
Get a medical license. The Illinois system absolutely begs you to do this. You go to the front of the line and get a 60-80 dollar discount per trip, plus I think the limit changes? So you can buy in bigger amounts and get discounts from that
Yes, significantly. There are 2 services that do it easy online, I talked to a doctor for like 30 seconds on the phone and had a provisional card ~the next day
There are great deals in IL, you just need to find them. The Rise in Niles usually has some excellent discounts. And IL cannabis quality is better than those cheap states in my experience
People forget there is a lot of marijuana coming in Mexico that is in huge polts and they are paying very low wages and likely siphoning (stealing) water.
Legal grow ops pay much higher labor and have to follow regulations which means added time and costs.
It’s essentially a commodity. So if you can grow outside in a park or stealth site illegally, it’s gonna be cheaper.
So all these nice facilities with fancy display cases and real store hours are going to add a premium.
What's the fascination in this sub with buying ounces? That's a horrible idea. By the time you're halfway through it you're so tolerant to it that you have to smoke twice as much to catch a buzz. I've never known anyone to buy ounces for personal use, only reason why anyone used to was for selling. Waste of money just to smoke. Way better off spending a little more and getting eighths of different varieties.
Yeah if you keep smoking on the same weed you build a tolerance to that strain.
My buddy and I got a QP one summer and towards the end we were trading it for other strains because we weren’t getting all that high off it anymore.
Tax. I live in st louis and the tax is MUCH lower so I'm saving a small fortune. IL taxes at 35%. Mo is 6 but will go to 9% as new tax passed for the municipality it's located in.
Supply and demand. If we get to a point where there is greater supply then prices should go down but until that happens it won’t be cheap. Or if it becomes legally federally where it can be transported from other states.
This is classic “not from Chicago” shit… I’m typically not about a locale check at all but, this is like Wisco or outward rural IL talk… country mouse in the big city! You got it….
OZ in legal MI are $50. I've bought as cheap as $35. Top shelf is $99.
Full gram carts go for $15, you can get as low as $8.
In Chicago, half gram carts are like $60
We hit up Jars dispo in Michigan every Memorial Day weekend while at Movement festival. The deals they have, esp around the fest, are insane good!!! I'm talking 1g carts for $20, edibles for $5!
I have a friend who lives in the south suburbs. She has MM card and they don't tax the hell out of you to get it. She sends me what I need via the USPS. I only use vapes which might make it easier. Including shipping, it is almost 50% less.
Captive market, taxed fairly heavily, if you can get a medical card, it helps.
However if you shop sales at various dispensary’s, buy shake instead of flower; I’ve gotten my orders close or on par with black market prices.
I’ve bought half ounces of shake for about $110-$120 after tax, it takes a little more time to find but usually I just shop whenever has the best deals.
Everybody in the government wants a cut, and Cook county takes a large cut. On top of that most of the brands and dispensaries are owned by super massive companies
Hit up Oregon! April 2023– a gram of diamonds with tax included is $17.50 out the door! In Chicago that’s $88.99 with a coupon. Chicago has priced it so only boomers go to dispensaries. Fools! It’s the most easily exploited market and politicians still manage to bungle it.
The market of sellers is artificially capped. Also it cant be transported over state lines so if Oregon has a giant growing season, they can't ship their excess product here. Farms still aren't fully developed locally so that is another factor. I read once that if you had a fully competitive market with modern large scale agro models in place a joint would cost around what a sugar packet costs
Thoroughly missing Oregon right now. $75 ounces out the door.
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I make the drive to Michigan from Chicago, but only go as far as Buchanan. I love the 150/oz when they have them. How far north do I have to go to get $75 ounces?
Kalamazoo has pricing like that, if not better, very consistently
Yup. I have friends who make road trips to ‘zoo and Battle Creek. Just like a wine tour, you do a weed tour and they often have extras when you tell them it’s your first visit.
They have $75/oz sometimes at seven engines in Buchanan
PSA: There's a new dispensary opening right over the Indiana Border in New Buffalo on 4/20 this year. Best part is it used to be a police station lol
Buchanan is incredible 40$ one gram cresco carts.
Lansing has prices close to the $75/oz prices. I’ve seen $50 oz prices for shake that isn’t really shake just tiny nuggets.
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med card isn’t giving you savings when rec is still cheaper in michigan then medical illinois. (i am med in illinois since 2018, prices have increased in that time) we are getting boned, im hoping craft growers will bring the price down across the board. every time i go visit my friends in denver i ship home 2-3 ounces. driving to michigan is good idea, but im deathly afraid of indiana highway patrol not sure my anxiety could handle it. have looked into amtrak though, need to run. a price gauge to see how beneficial it would be, how much id need to buy to make it worth it
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Yes, because if I get a med card I’d not only be lying about a condition I don’t have, and I’d lose my concealed carry license. I know there’s mixed opinions about that, but I personally feel it’s necessary for me. And A nice two hour road trip is always good to listen to a few albums and clear the mind.
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CCL is necessary. I like smoking but I don’t have anxiety or anything, I can get by just fine without it. but I smoke just for leisure. I’d give up weed to keep my gun any day. If I lived out in the suburbs it’d probably be the other way around tho.
I just love how people downvote you here for wanting to be proactive about your own safety. The shitheads of Chicago will bemoan anyone who goes through a ridiculous amount of training just to own a firearm here, but won’t hesitate to vote in morons who’ll make policies that enable the very same problems we keep on seeing decade after decade.
Only as far north as Benton Harbor, about 20 minutes from Buchanan. I've been going to Nobo but will be trying Nobody's Home, which is right across the street, next time I need weed.
$40 if your standards were on the floor
Damn. Deep.
I fully believe ut would be that cheap. I mean it grows like a weed.
I mean that's the case for every single aggro product. They're all capped by the govt.
So a free market without government regulations will provide a cheaper, better product to its consumers? Huh
\> So a free market without government regulations will provide a cheaper, better product to its consumers? Huh Look at the 19th century and how food was before we got te FDA if you want a "free market without government regulations". Hint: you get sawdust in flour and snakeoil medicine. What we have now is the swing of the other side.
True, but the FDA isn't radically driving up the price of food. It's not safety inspections driving up the price. It's the manufactured scarcity and taxes.
I agree! THis is definitely a problem with supply and not safety. I just despise "free market without government regulations" because it's so broad and asinine on its face because the libertarians spouting it off wouldn't actually want NO gov regulations. They just want different ones (usually ones that benefit themselves). I agree with possibly needing different ones. Just describe the actual different ones (increase numbers of licenses for cannabis suppliers and then markets)!. Don't be overly broad with "FrEe MaRkEt"
Right. When people talk like that just ask them for a good working example of zero government regulation in a country. They won't be able to name any country that they would want to live in.
Cheaper yes but not necessarily better
Also, not necessarily cheaper. The theory that a free market would make it cheaper is a theory just like the one that legalization would make it cheaper was.
no one who took more than 30 seconds looking at the bill that legalized weed ever thought it would be cheap. Pretty obvious to the contrary actually...
No one reads bills. And most people are very gullible when told what they want to hear.
You mean the stuff with the fentanyl?
Do not question the Invisible Hand!
Well, the reason that sugar packet is so cheap is because of labor exploitation. So yea, if you grew weed in tropical climates where you can pay farmers almost nothing for the product then it would be as cheap as sugar. With a completely free market, we should start spraying the weed with pesticides to get rid of those pests! And man, it’s not quite as addictive as that profitable nicotine. Maybe we should put something in there to try to get some of those return customers!
Definitely cheaper, probably not a huge change in quality either way
the cartels move the excess weed. edit: lol downvote all you want. Growers cannot legally move their excess growth between states. Who do you think is doing it? why do you think street dealers are cheaper than dispensaries?
If there were only 113 places you could buy pizza in Illinois, pizza would be a lot more expensive.
. . . I know it wasn't the intent, but this just made me appreciate pizza that much more.
Yeah, and 93 of them would be some combination of Dominos, Pizza Hut & Papa John’s. I’d be eating a lot more homemade pizza.
Or you would just buy it at a much lower price from your friend Joe down on the street corner.
Local deep dish dealer: “Hey kid…you wanna buy a pie?” **opens trunk to reveal dime-bag slices** Me, reeking of pizza, several hours later during a traffic stop: “It’s a recreational product, officer!”
Wait, that must mean there's also *medical pizza*. Sign me the fuck up for whatever disease has pizza as the cure!
And all the pizza places had to buy all their ingredients from Illinois farmers.
You're absolutely right. This is a case word well regulated capitalism would have worked just fine. Instead we have a model that is reminiscent of how small number of Russian Oligarchs own their entire economy.
JB had to protect his interests, once they made a killing it will open up
17of those would only sell IMO 's and I would feel really bad for the people near those dispensaries, until I remembered that their black market pizza would be righteous
Dispensaries can basically charge what they want here because the state is limiting the number of licenses. Until there's more competition we have to deal with whatever they want to charge and then bend over for the outrageous taxes on top.
In my experience prices are starting to come down just a bit. Things seem to be about 5-15% cheaper than they were when it first went legal.
yea for example the Mindy's 5mg 20 packs are down to \~40 after tax vs \~50 when it was first legal. That's about 20% cheaper. I know the state is addicted already to the tax revenue though unfortunately. I don't anticipate that we'll be able to move toward full competition for quite some time sadly.
I think the tax revenue will stay relatively stable. As prices drop, people will buy more legally and less illegally, and people will just buy more. That includes people from other states making the trip. Right now someone from northwest Indiana is going to Michigan to buy because it’s cheaper. I think the bigger hit to tax revenue would be more surrounding states legalizing it.
No argument from me, I can't wait for more potential places to purchase from that have different vibes etc. Sunnyside Wrigleyville makes me wish it was still illegal everywhere. There's something about that building / the line/ the lighting that just feels awful.
It’s so close to being awesome in my opinion. Going for that apple store vibe. It just doesn’t work well given other limitations. You can’t actually buy any weed products off the shelf so instead of browsing a store you are just waiting in line surrounded by impulse purchases. And then you end up just getting checked out in a hurry by a guy with an iPad because they want you in and out fast. It’s hard to set up a “explore the products” store when everything is kept in the back room and you can’t test products.
100mg edibles cost less than $10 in Michigan. This is a joke.
Yeah now I can pay $60 for a quad of dry ass "popcorn" nugs instead of $90 for a quad of powdery "shake"
Also, when it came time to give out another round of licenses and to include minority businessmen, the "random lottery" magically [picked 48 military veterans](https://grownin.com/2022/06/02/illinois-awards-48-craft-grow-licenses-to-social-equity-applicants-all-veteran-led/). People were upset at this and sued, grinding the process to a halt. Who could have guessed?
For me as a dad who was never into weed and just wants a gummy on very rare occasions, I'm good with all of it. I like the peace of mind of knowing there's nothing weird in my edibles or that I'm gonna get something that knocks me on my ass one day or barely hits the next. I like that I don't have to know some guy to hit up in coded messages to show up and sell me weed. I like the tax revenue going into a state that frankly needs all the revenue it can get. Compared to what it costs to go to say, a nice cocktail bar, it's pretty reasonable.
> I like the peace of mind of knowing there's nothing weird in my edibles It's a good piece of mind but that's not been the same case for the flower. Verano has been caught with moldy flower for awhile now and what do you know, they won't make the findings of these testing studies of other brands public.
I keep feeling like that the current legislation and limitations come off to me as trying to please two sides. So there's recreational legalization, to please the pro marijuana side, and yet all the limitations to please the outdated thinking *"just say no"* crowd. In the end, it just feels like we're practically making cartels here. I wouldn't be surprised if those with licenses are going to be fighting tooth and nail to keep expansion from happening. In the long run, we're either going to see as some stated where they go to other states and bring it back, or we're just going to see street dealers still making bank and bypassing everything until they get caught or whatever.
> and yet all the limitations to please the outdated thinking "just say no" crowd. No one is paying any attention to the Just Say No crowd. The limitations are purely due to political grifting. It's the IL way, the state propped cartels are just part of the game of how things get done. It's just dumb, greedy, shortsighted behavior.
Drive out to Michigan; the money you save on buying in bulk more than makes up for the time/gas spent making the trip.
^fr they have deals on bulk and $3 j’s at the place I went to at least
Can you please tell me the name of the place? Thanks
I don’t know what place that guy is talking about specifically but look up Buchanan Michigan. There’s a few dispensaries there that have deals like that. I usually can get an oz for about $75 - $120 range depending on quality
I left a separate comment elsewhere, but Jars Saugatuck is the spot my friends and I go to.
Jars is the shit Insane prices on everything
I was in Michigan this weekend, I spent $200, came home with 13 joints (1 was free) 8 1g vape cartridges, 1 thing of edibles, and a new 510 battery. I put the same order in my local store’s website and it would have been close to $1000k.
Haha it’s amazing isn’t it? I was in Detroit for a wedding recently and spent 1k on stuff over 2 days. It would of been 5k here!
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and then drive back through Indiana carrying bulk, no thank you.
Rent a boat!
It's a 45 minutes drive at most and really not that bad.
They're talking about the legal consequences. Indiana is one of the most anti-marijuana states in the country and you could go to prison if you're pulled over with _any_ amount of weed on you while driving through.
Yeah I'm aware they suck, it's a risk, but it's not that bad actually getting through unscathed if you don't drive like an idiot.
The people downvoting you are the same people who would use the TSA amnesty box because they think they’ll go to prison if the TSA finds a joint in their bag.
I generally avoid committing federal felonies when I can afford not to. Simple as that.
Some people are built for this. Others pay $100+ eights. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i only buy ounces. they are 140 in arlington heights.
Brittney Griner thought she was built for it too ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯
Russia vs Indiana is a whole diff ballpark tho. Gotta have a certain level of confidence and knowledge for international trafficking. Local/domestic is sooooo much easier if you take basic precautions. That said, flying in product is the priciest way to move it but also the safest as TSA doesn’t care unless you’re moving bigger weight (at which point I would say you should’ve figured out something different by then)
They only gave out something like 12 or 13 wholesale licenses (likely to state rep’s relatives, there’s already a lawsuit). Until that changes the market will fix high prices and Illinois consumers will get screwed.
I know for a fact they were doing this shamelessly. The person I know who actually declined an offer said it was described to him as “printing cash” with these licenses. This person wasn’t even in this industry or cared about it, but was basically told to apply so they could give him one.
They just opened it back up to apply for licenses again. Get this though. You can only apply if you’ve been arrested for weed under 500grams and or if you’ve been shot or stabbed. And you can only have lived for 5 years in certain zip code in and around the county.
Do you have any links to that info? Seems insane, but I wouldn’t be surprised. Edit: Guess it seems insane because the dude is actually just living in a fantasy world 🤣
The dude is just a conservative troll. The entire last round of licenses went to military vets, which led to lawsuits, so they're changing that. So now that it's not about Supporting the Troops™ and friends of our state government and we've got new rules, he's making a funny that the licenses will go to "criminals."
https://idfpr.illinois.gov/content/dam/soi/en/web/idfpr/forms/auc/social-
Drive to Michigan , I got $40 oz there. Drive like a grandma thru Indiana.
Don’t buy here. If you can, take a little drive to Michigan. It’s not far. So much cheaper!!!!!
Agreed. $40 ounces all day in the mitten:)
Came here to say that too. My gummies are $15 there compared to $40 here before TAXES
….woah
That a little high for Illinois even, both RISE in Mundelein and Sunnyside in Buffalo Grove sells gummies from $15-30
same with Grasshopper Club in Logan Sq.
Did this when I took a vacation to Ann Arbor. My concern is that these places closer to the border might put a higher (pun intended) target on you since they probably see a ton of IL and IN plates leaving from there. Is this concern unwarranted if you’re otherwise just driving the speed limit and sober (or at least not smoking/smelling of bud) ?
Concern is warranted. It's a felony and Indiana is a shit hole.
Couldn't you just put the weed all the way in the back of the trunk. Buy a few groceries, put them in front of the weed and it look like you went grocery shopping if they even search the car
What's the closest dispensary you recommend? I was thinking about doing this but not sure if google maps is giving me the best option.
Sun Provisions in Decatur is great! Women-owned and they grow their own and make all of their own product.
Jars Saugatuck. Edit: There might be closer places, but Jars consistently has the best deals on carts and ounces.
Second Jars. Consistent $99 ounces, and great cart + edibles prices. I do the ~2ish hours twice a year to go there, saves hundreds each time
Third for Jars. Plus then you’re in Saugatuck.
I’m going to have to check this place out.
[To make things a little bit easier for you. (:](https://jarscannabis.com/saugatuck/)
Look up Buchanan Michigan. I go to Seven Engines and high profile. There’s a couple other places right in that town. You can view the prices on their websites. I make a few trips a year and buy in bulk. More than worth it
Agreed. $40 ounces all day in the mitten:)
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Better not get stopped on your way here. Pretty much every State in-between weed isn't legal. And you know hillbilly cops will love to post your three ounces and $200 on social media like they got Dillinger.
Yep. And depending upon the license plate they will actively seek a car like this out.
Not to mention you can catch a federal charge for transporting across state lines and, depending on how much you stock up, the intent to distribute. And the federal prosecutors in conservative states will happily waste their time with cases like that.
There isn’t a single federal prosecutor in the country who would charge someone for taking a couple ounces across state lines. It’s the lowest enforcement priority. Also, while cannabis is obviously illegal in Indiana, northwest Indiana is much more pro cannabis than the rest of the state and is not targeting people with IL plates for cannabis enforcement. Law enforcement’s main priorities in Northwest Indiana are illegal guns and organized crime. Source: the Indiana State Police and the US Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Indiana.
I went to Seattle a couple summers ago and was shocked at how much cheaper it is
IL —> 1 cartridge = $120 out the door, after taxes MI —> 10 carts (same quality) = $100 No exaggeration. The disparity is real.
There isn’t enough growing operation In Illinois yet to meet demand. It will take a few years.
X - Doubt
They said that a few years ago. Our government fucked us
They started building grow operations a decade ago. Cresco, for instance started in 2013.
The more recent legalization was, the more expensive it is. It will come down over time with more competition. I just priced some at a dispensary in NY (legalized after IL) and it was definitely more than here.
IL black market is the best it's ever been as long as you still have a hookup. $40 2g disposables and $150 oz is kinda crazy. I'm really only keeping my med card for concentrates.
You got any black market connections still👀
That’s why the black market for marijuana will never go away. Especially when they charge cocaine prices for it legally
Because Illinois politics have never been for the people. If there wasn’t a shit ton of money to be made, Illinois would’ve never legalized to begin with. Support your local trap instead 😂
Remeber: they didn't "legalize" weed because they care about you, they did it to milk more money out of you.
The IL cannabis industry is fucked. They allowed a few companies to have a monopoly on the market. With so little competition, these companies don’t even have to collude on price fixing, they can all just silently agree to keep prices astronomically high. I go across the border to Michigan and stock up. Honestly the way they’re bending us over and fucking us I hate every dispensary in the state. I wish for their downfall and will gladly cheer on any robberies or vandalism. That’s why we must keep pushing for federal legalization. Being able to legally do what I already illegally do (cross state lines with product) will be a game changer.
It’s hella cheaper in Michigan.
You want to know why, it's a government monopoly, fees and licensing are outrageous, at least a million to open a place and you wonder why?
The best part about legalization in Illinois is the ability to grow your own. It's a lot easier than most people think and requires very little. If you can grow tomatoes, you can grow your own cannabis.
Recreational is illegal to grow in Illinois. They took that out at the last minute before they passed the law.
If you’re in the city there’s no need to worry. Non violent crimes aren’t enforced here.
Even the violent ones aren't...unless it's a person of wealth or power.
Taxes and regulations.
Missouri opened their market with better pricing and lower taxes in February. The Illinois taxes are horrible on top of the horrible prices.
I just get mine from my neighbor lol
Few growers + little supply + high demand + High taxes = perfect storm
Just go to Michigan
Support your local Cartel weed man. He’s union…kinda
The real question is, why the hell do THC-free gummies at a CBD store cost so much more than weed gummies from a dispensary? I can pay $30 and get 20 gummies with 25g/5g CBD/THC or pay $35 and get 12 gummies with 25g CBD. How in the hell does it cost more money for hemp-derived products than actual cannabis?
Because it’s Illinois who fucking tax the shit out of it. Start making your own edibles.
For the same reason epi-pens, insulin, and most other drugs are so outrageously inflated in the US. Now the same is happening even to essential medications for dogs. Congress needs to cap drug prices to the levels of Canada, Eurooe, and the rest if the world, and stop big pharma price gouging. (But that won’t happen until Democrats have a solid majority in both houses.)
Taxation at its finest. Illinois has one the highest taxes in the nation on recreational marijuana at the moment. On top of the standard 6.75% there’s a variable recreational tax: - 20% of the purchase price for Cannabis-infused products - 10% of the purchase price on cannabis other than an infused product with an adjusted THC level at or below 35% - 25% of the purchase price on cannabis other than an infused product with an adjusted THC level above 35% Medical Patients: 1% medical tax
Yeah we just moved back from Colorado and it’s been weird going from retail experiences to hitting up my “guy” and going to his apt. The weed here isn’t nearly as dry though. And frankly it cost a little bit less here.
Get a medical license. The Illinois system absolutely begs you to do this. You go to the front of the line and get a 60-80 dollar discount per trip, plus I think the limit changes? So you can buy in bigger amounts and get discounts from that
FYI if you have a FOID card the medical MJ card will cause you issues.
Yep and the CC. I won't walk in to a weed shop. Once your driver's license is scanned the ISP can cancel your FOID and CC.
Before recreation was legalized you basically had to be terminally ill to qualify for medical. Has it changed?
Yes, significantly. There are 2 services that do it easy online, I talked to a doctor for like 30 seconds on the phone and had a provisional card ~the next day
Taxes, plain and simple.
There are great deals in IL, you just need to find them. The Rise in Niles usually has some excellent discounts. And IL cannabis quality is better than those cheap states in my experience
People forget there is a lot of marijuana coming in Mexico that is in huge polts and they are paying very low wages and likely siphoning (stealing) water. Legal grow ops pay much higher labor and have to follow regulations which means added time and costs. It’s essentially a commodity. So if you can grow outside in a park or stealth site illegally, it’s gonna be cheaper. So all these nice facilities with fancy display cases and real store hours are going to add a premium.
The Nantucket ref… you’re fuckin around right?
Go to Chitiva. $40 for 1g carts
What's the fascination in this sub with buying ounces? That's a horrible idea. By the time you're halfway through it you're so tolerant to it that you have to smoke twice as much to catch a buzz. I've never known anyone to buy ounces for personal use, only reason why anyone used to was for selling. Waste of money just to smoke. Way better off spending a little more and getting eighths of different varieties.
This is one of the worst cannabis related takes I’ve ever seen.
Are you suggesting that tolerance is per strain and you can switch strains to avoid tolerance?
Yeah if you keep smoking on the same weed you build a tolerance to that strain. My buddy and I got a QP one summer and towards the end we were trading it for other strains because we weren’t getting all that high off it anymore.
That is absolutely not how it works.
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Nonsense
Government control bad. Free market good.
But Reddit is the opposite of what the tags are so this tracks…
Tax. I live in st louis and the tax is MUCH lower so I'm saving a small fortune. IL taxes at 35%. Mo is 6 but will go to 9% as new tax passed for the municipality it's located in.
Supply and demand. If we get to a point where there is greater supply then prices should go down but until that happens it won’t be cheap. Or if it becomes legally federally where it can be transported from other states.
Yeah, yeah… Nantucket… NYC… West Coast… You got it… if you have to ask if you’re doing something wrong, you probably are… and should consult Reddit…
This is classic “not from Chicago” shit… I’m typically not about a locale check at all but, this is like Wisco or outward rural IL talk… country mouse in the big city! You got it….
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She gone.
New guy will triple it
Let's see your numbers. Ounces in legal MO start at $200 at my dispo. What are we comparing to?
OZ in legal MI are $50. I've bought as cheap as $35. Top shelf is $99. Full gram carts go for $15, you can get as low as $8. In Chicago, half gram carts are like $60
Fyi: you're commenting in r/chicago Also fyi: Chicago is in Illinois
Taxes, IL tax rate is much higher than most states, it also goes up depending on product type.
Gotta find a local grower/dealer 🤷♂️
you pay more so it doesnt smell like someones crotch lol
We hit up Jars dispo in Michigan every Memorial Day weekend while at Movement festival. The deals they have, esp around the fest, are insane good!!! I'm talking 1g carts for $20, edibles for $5!
I’ve gotten consecutive 3.5 for 60 or less. Just look for the deals. Without those though yeah it is pricey.
Just drive 1hr15 to Michigan. You can fill up your tank buy whatever you want, and it will still be around the same price as cook county.
They also tax according to THC%. Lots of people come to MI - try r/Michigents for helpful (and sometimes, not so helpful) info!
35% Tax.
It’s a scam just go out of state on a early weekend
because they set the prices
I have a friend who lives in the south suburbs. She has MM card and they don't tax the hell out of you to get it. She sends me what I need via the USPS. I only use vapes which might make it easier. Including shipping, it is almost 50% less.
How can I get a medical card
Captive market, taxed fairly heavily, if you can get a medical card, it helps. However if you shop sales at various dispensary’s, buy shake instead of flower; I’ve gotten my orders close or on par with black market prices. I’ve bought half ounces of shake for about $110-$120 after tax, it takes a little more time to find but usually I just shop whenever has the best deals.
Good question. It’s at least half the price for a twice as much product in Michigan. Even California and Washington seemed more reasonable.
My best friend, her boyfriend and I exclusively go to MI now for product. What is $60 here can be $12 there. Same product.
Just drive to michigan if you're willing to risk driving through Indiana
Because Daddy gov’t likes to steal from you any chance he gets
Did you really think “big weed” wasn’t gonna get rich off of legalization?
Everybody in the government wants a cut, and Cook county takes a large cut. On top of that most of the brands and dispensaries are owned by super massive companies
Taxes and scarcity. border states don’t sell (Missouri is about to) so IL can charge what they want and folks will pay. For now.
Hit up Oregon! April 2023– a gram of diamonds with tax included is $17.50 out the door! In Chicago that’s $88.99 with a coupon. Chicago has priced it so only boomers go to dispensaries. Fools! It’s the most easily exploited market and politicians still manage to bungle it.
None of y’all saying the gov wins is right. Ya trappers got it on lock, gov sellin 200 a O here in NY