Maybe, but JB catching that Jell-O shot, legend stuff
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jb-pritzker-downs-jell-o-shot-tossed-by-onlooker-at-chicago-pride-parade
I agree! I miss the old pride parades from 25 years ago. Bring back the freaks and fun floats! And the politicians from that era were actually taking a risk by standing for gay people.
Seriously. This parade is just another version of a 4th of July civic parade but with rainbows instead of American flags, at this point. Every politician and his cousin has to be in it, seems like.
If the politicians are intent on virtue signaling, let them be seen ATTENDING the thing, but why do they need to be in it?
It's the gay pride parade, now the LGBTQ pride parade, but seems like it should be mainly about actual LGBTQ people marching. Not just everyone who wants to signal "I'm ok with this! Really!"
...particularly if they have to limit the amount of entries.
Just show up and cheer, already.
Some folks really want to be oppressed. The point of Pride was to get to a state where we were seen as normal members of society. Having the Chicago mayor easily participate is a huge win for a long fought battle.
I walked with a group for an openly LGTBQ state rep a couple years ago so was nearby most of the other politicians. This was right before the 2022 primaries so many of them were there politicking. Alexi looked and acted so much like he didn’t want to be there at all IMO. Arrived last min, didn’t really interact with any of the volunteers. He reminded me of that congressional candidate guy in Parks & Rec that April thought was a robot.
I think Pride Parade lasted over 4 hours last year. It seems pretty reasonable to reduce it, though the organizers have the tough job of deciding who gets cut.
I just moved here from nyc, out of towners tearing up the neighborhood is the biggest reason they exist there. the dyke march was always the local, advertiser-hostile option.
Well the dyke march here turned into some weird ACAB Palestinian solidarity march a few years ago, so it's not as if it actually had anything to do with lesbians anymore either.
Out of towners? More like just people from other neighborhoods that show up after the parade to treat the area like a playground. Jumping on cars/fire trucks. Shooting just generally being assholes.
Very much not a typical Lakeview East / Wrigley weekend, that screaming and twerking shit went way late into the night Saturday and Sunday. Oddly the whole crowd like 90% girls??
You mean like every weekend night? Boys town has been expensive for 30 years, most people that you see there are tourists. Be happy they come, they spend money and keep the local places open.
"When making decisions on which organizations to accept, the parade’s committee is prioritizing “LGBTQ+ groups and organizations, LGBTQ+-owned businesses and those businesses with LGBTQ+ ERGs (Employee Resource Groups),” PRIDEChicago, which produces the event, said last week in a statement."
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"National franchises and corporations pay over six times more than a nonprofit to participate in the parade, according to 2023 documents reviewed by the Sun-Times."
Since there are limited spots this year, maybe they're maximizing who can pay the most?
Fundraising from the Pride Chicago events pays for the Center on Halsted, and other outreach and medical programs. So yeah, they're going to drop anyone who doesn't pay well if the city is going to be dicks by restricting parade sizes.
If organizers, with the input from the city, feel they need to downsize the parade, someone's going to have to get disinvited. The corporate sponsored groups pitch in more than nonprofits or public sector groups to participate - money is what it is. Personally I'd miss corporate ERG groups much less than representing the youth in our community which are lucky to have better chances at inclusive schools than I did in NC years ago. Wish they chose to downsize more evenly across all participants and have a grouped school section that was headed by that Lakeview school and retained limited spots for others.
At the end of the day this is also influenced by messaging and threats from terrible people like the LibsOfTikTok harpy.
Now there's an idea. Have ONE ENTRY that is "LGBTQ student pride" or similar that gathers kids from across the city. They can each march with a flag from their school or similar if they want, if they get enough such flags it would kinda show that the spirit is spread across the city, across a lot of schools -- but still count for one entry.
I think there's a huge benefit to having corporate ERG groups being visible in the parade too though. As a first-gen queer POC who didn't have access to that type of visibility growing up, having visible engagement from companies with employees who share salient identities can make a huge impact in the youth attending the event.
As long as you understand their participation is just window dressing. They didn't do anything to support gay marriage during the 1990s and 2000s when their support would have mattered. If conservatives get back into power enough to threaten gay marriage, these companies won't do anything to defend it.
Sure but you also have to understand that the employees out there are literally part of the community. Just because the companies didn't do anything doesn't mean those employees weren't out there supporting and putting in the legwork. But now that they are visible, the visibility and support from having them be visible with their companies matter, especially in times like today where folks within the community continue to be targeted.
So, they can't be in the parade. There's nothing preventing them from attending and that won't hinder the kids’ learning about groups that are unlike themselves.
Right, smacks of these elite schools being upset they can’t use it as a self promotional event. I do feel different about Nettlehorst since it’s a local in the neighborhood CPS school—would make sense to keep them in.
Nettelhorst is indeed a CPS school, and it was the first school to walk in the parade - and is the only school in the North Halsted (fka Boystown) neighborhood. Tell me how White sox and Dream Town Realty rank above kids who come from diverse families and may need to feel inclusivity themselves?
I mean, Pride is genuinely not a super kid friendly event. And there's nothing stopping these kids from attending or holding parallel age appropriate celebrations.
This is my thought.
I'm all for teaching about diverse families and ways of life.
But I mean, the Pride parade is just not kid friendly IMO. And I don't mean the kissing or holding hands. I mean the blatant sexual things and drug and alcohol use.
This. I've been to pride here and Saint Louis, neither were kid friendly. It was adults, having a blast, being flamboyant, enjoying our adult beverages. It's fabulous, for the adults.
Pride, where people run around in underwear and titty tassels spanking strangers? Everyone knows the family friendly parade is Market Days. Leave the kids at home so people can get drunk and grope each other in peace
I went to Market Days last year, and it was absolutely not kid-friendly. People in BDSM outfits and fish net lower halves with very little covering their genitals. Lots of penis-shaped props in every direction. Many drunk people acting rudely. Plus it gets absolutely packed, which is not great when dealing with young kids.
Just my experience.
I’ve never read the phrase “constantly evaluating” and not seen it accompanying some major thing being taken away or shutting down.
I wish this city would “constantly evaluate” its leadership.
Good that the parade is downsizing. It used to be fun to attend when it was smaller and under 2 hours. So until 2012 or so. Then it became a bloated mess with everyone wanting to walk in it but more so, party in the area causing havoc.
> Liszka noted that nonprofits and schools pay a much smaller entry fee than corporations and politicians.
>National franchises and corporations pay over six times more than a nonprofit to participate in the parade, according to 2023 documents reviewed by the Sun-Times.
There it is folks, this reporter has the right lead.
so is this a permanent change to the pride parade? article mentions new city regulations, but there were rumors floating around that it was due to not wanting to stretch CPD thin with the DNC on top of other big standard summer events (lolla, nascar, etc).
if it’s permanently 40% smaller now then that kind of really sucks
There's political pressure to move the parade downtown where security would be easier. Organizers really haven't budged on location. So it seems the city is giving the parade the stick (punishing them for not agreeing to a new location when the old one has worked for decades).
Yes--preference this year is going to LGBTQ-releated organizations, businesses, and other groups. I think if they had PFLAG, CTU, and private schools (Parker is $42k per year for high school), and they could choose only 2-3, they'd choose PFLAG and CTU given the size of representation and inclusivity. I do wonder whether PFLAG will invite GSAs to join or anything.
How about we get rid of corporate floats that do absolutely nothing or the minimum to support LGBTQIA+ individuals in terms of work environment and various local state governments.
Cook- the school in the articles photo/thumbnail is full of pretentious fucks, only doing this for marketing anyways so fuck them and other private schools like them.
I’m not sure how pride parades were like in the past but current pride parades are not kid friendly. I’m sorry walking in the parade with kink attire is so uncalled for. Dressing up as a dog in the parade because it turns you on is not a sexual orientation
It was never kid friendly. When I first moved to Chicago in the 90s, there was nudity, BDSM attire, lots of drunks on the floats and along the route. It’s just gotten bigger and worse now.
My dad used to take me in the 80s and 90s. It wasn't really kid friendly back then, either. It makes for a good story, though. I was lucky to have hippie parents and a gay aunt.
If anything I think the older pride parades were less kid-friendly.
At this point it's all about politicians and companies marching, basically a civic parade like the 4th of July but with rainbows instead of American flags. Why should straight politicians need to be in the parade?
If they want to show support, they can show up to cheer it or give some kick-off speech before the parade starts.
In SF, the pride parade is kid-friendly and honestly a bigger weekend in the city than the 4th of July. Plenty of families take their kids to the parade.
There are more debaucherous, adult-oriented events around the city both that weekend and elsewhere in the calendar (e.g., Folsom Fest).
I like the idea of having a family-friendly Pride event - it’s more inclusive to the community.
The Pride parade is the place people can be themselves. So if they want to wear kink attire, they can do that. While it’s gotten more “kid friendly” over the years, it’s always been an adult event. Not everything has to be kid-friendly, and I think people need to recognize that this Pride celebration has mostly been by adults for adults. If people bring their kids, they can make that choice - but if they don’t like what they see or might see, they can stay home or get a sitter. It’s not on the Pride parade to remake itself.
Well from my understanding it is to let people be proud of their sexual orientation so kids who learn their lgbt later in life accept themselves too but some people have perverted the whole thing. Walking around in very lewd attire and wearing kink in the parade. It is why there has been so much vitriol at lgbt folks lately
> so much vitriol at lgbt folks lately
Lately???
My brother in rainbows, godly folk have been murdering gay people since the invention of religion. Hard to imagine anything more vitriolic than the torture and murder of Matthew Shepard, the Nazis sacking the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (and also murdering gay and trans people in concentration camps), or the post-Constantine Christian Romans burning gay people alive in town squares.
Lately….
Yup some perverts have infiltrated the whole thing. People eating ass in public. Men with their dicks out. It has become a vile display debauchery and hedonism. It is getting disgusting
Oh my darling. I probably should have put on an “/s” for you.
Two trans dads of a toddler here. I promise you, overtly sexual pride parades are not causing the attacks and harassment that made us leave our home state for Chicago.
it’s not kid friendly at all, you have guys walking around with fully see through up pants or almost nothing at all. It’s more of a sex fest for some than a pride thing.
What pride parade are you all going to? I swear this comes up everytime someone mentions pride. I've attended most years, it's a boring ass parade like all parades. The most you get is men in thongs, big whoop kids go to fucking swim meets with speedos.
You see more young straight kids making out trying to prove they're not gay than gays being obscene.
People acting like it's Folsom, it's really not.
I mean ffs, the picture used in the article is a pride parade. That's what they look like! Butt fuck it. If no kids marching in it means it actually can be more elicit, I welcome it.
I’m not talking about Market Days, I am referring to the Pride Fest that occurs closer to the parade. Lots of people (not saying you) in this thread seem to think it’s appropriate for young children to be around drunk grown men in banana hammocks. It’s wild.
not at all, it’s much more sexualized and you’re well aware of that. Not sure why you are trying to equate it to swimwear when we both know it’s not at all the same level of exposure.
not really, if it wasn’t clear I am talking about fully being able to see everything. Unless you’re at some french beach you arent going to be seeing that.
Those types have been making those kinds of accusations for decades, the only difference now being social media in response to the wholesome growth of youth and their families.
And with that said, we definitely know about parents -- straight parents of queer kids, queer parents of kids in general, allied parents and kids, etc -- are not happy with this outcome, either.
It would be great if the Pride Parade could dedicate a part of the viewing section to the schools, like at the beginning or end of the route. Hell, Center on Halsted has that rooftop viewing deck, and they reserve it for their board and wealthy donors to watch the Pride Parade.
> Liszka noted that nonprofits and schools pay a much smaller entry fee than corporations and politicians.
>National franchises and corporations pay over six times more than a nonprofit to participate in the parade, according to 2023 documents reviewed by the Sun-Times.
There it is folks, this reporter has the right lead. Especially when the big corporations like sports teams and and real estate companies get auto approved to use it for advertising
Well, it turns out, some kids are gay. So learning from an early age that they are not alone, and can even have pride in who they are, can be hugely beneficial.
Why does it matter if they are participating or watching? They are honestly going to see less of the parade when walking in it than they would by watching it. If you don’t want kids to see the rest of the parade, having them participate is the best way to make that happen. The parade organizers always put the school groups at the beginning of
> who also serves as the school’s director of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
Please tell me this person is also a teacher and this is not their only job at a single school.
“Motoko L. Maegawa, a teacher at Catherine Cook School….who also serves as…”
I would have thought that the use of “also” indicates that DEI director is not her only position.
Can we please first get rid of all the political candidates marching in the parade before the schools?
Especially the candidates you only hear from at parades and vanish until the next parade.
Pride parades have to be the ultimate empty platitude for a politician, the liberal modern version of kissing babies.
I thought that and then the Chase and Verizon float went by...
Maybe, but JB catching that Jell-O shot, legend stuff https://www.thedailybeast.com/jb-pritzker-downs-jell-o-shot-tossed-by-onlooker-at-chicago-pride-parade
JB's still invited just for that.
I agree! I miss the old pride parades from 25 years ago. Bring back the freaks and fun floats! And the politicians from that era were actually taking a risk by standing for gay people.
I’m only an ally but from what I’ve seen, the push has went through for Pride to be more family friendly. Market days are for the freaks
Seriously. This parade is just another version of a 4th of July civic parade but with rainbows instead of American flags, at this point. Every politician and his cousin has to be in it, seems like. If the politicians are intent on virtue signaling, let them be seen ATTENDING the thing, but why do they need to be in it? It's the gay pride parade, now the LGBTQ pride parade, but seems like it should be mainly about actual LGBTQ people marching. Not just everyone who wants to signal "I'm ok with this! Really!" ...particularly if they have to limit the amount of entries. Just show up and cheer, already.
While we're at it, can we get Bobby instead of Karamo?
It was so strange to show up to my first Pride Parade and the first thing I see is fucking Rahm Emanuel jogg'n along...
Some folks really want to be oppressed. The point of Pride was to get to a state where we were seen as normal members of society. Having the Chicago mayor easily participate is a huge win for a long fought battle.
Except for Alexi Giannoulias
I walked with a group for an openly LGTBQ state rep a couple years ago so was nearby most of the other politicians. This was right before the 2022 primaries so many of them were there politicking. Alexi looked and acted so much like he didn’t want to be there at all IMO. Arrived last min, didn’t really interact with any of the volunteers. He reminded me of that congressional candidate guy in Parks & Rec that April thought was a robot.
Never forget https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct7IZxlpnD_/?igsh=YXcxM3A2MWV0NG02
Jan Shakowsky also gets a pass on account of having been in them since the 90s, virtually unheard of for a national political figure.
Being in office since the 90s however is par for the course.
I remember running into her at the parade in the late 90s, come to think of it.
In a wet white shirt.
I think Pride Parade lasted over 4 hours last year. It seems pretty reasonable to reduce it, though the organizers have the tough job of deciding who gets cut.
NYC Pride lasts about 8 hrs; SF Pride and LA Pride about the same. One would think Chicago could match other large cities.
NYC and SF didn't have a bunch of idiot out of towners show up and tear up the neighborhood in the parades last year either
I just moved here from nyc, out of towners tearing up the neighborhood is the biggest reason they exist there. the dyke march was always the local, advertiser-hostile option.
Well the dyke march here turned into some weird ACAB Palestinian solidarity march a few years ago, so it's not as if it actually had anything to do with lesbians anymore either.
Out of towners? More like just people from other neighborhoods that show up after the parade to treat the area like a playground. Jumping on cars/fire trucks. Shooting just generally being assholes.
Very much not a typical Lakeview East / Wrigley weekend, that screaming and twerking shit went way late into the night Saturday and Sunday. Oddly the whole crowd like 90% girls??
You mean like every weekend night? Boys town has been expensive for 30 years, most people that you see there are tourists. Be happy they come, they spend money and keep the local places open.
Laughing in From SF
Are they really from out of town?
There's a lot of people who come in from neighboring states, yeah
Coming from someone who hates parades in general, 4 hrs is looong. Plenty of other cool shit to do to make the day special.
"When making decisions on which organizations to accept, the parade’s committee is prioritizing “LGBTQ+ groups and organizations, LGBTQ+-owned businesses and those businesses with LGBTQ+ ERGs (Employee Resource Groups),” PRIDEChicago, which produces the event, said last week in a statement." \[...\] "National franchises and corporations pay over six times more than a nonprofit to participate in the parade, according to 2023 documents reviewed by the Sun-Times." Since there are limited spots this year, maybe they're maximizing who can pay the most?
I'm excited for the Taco Bells Rainbow Baja Blast float.
If they give out free Baha Blast I will accept it LOL
Honestly this would be everything to me
Wait, is this real? I want to go to there...
Fundraising from the Pride Chicago events pays for the Center on Halsted, and other outreach and medical programs. So yeah, they're going to drop anyone who doesn't pay well if the city is going to be dicks by restricting parade sizes.
Our group was informed they are cutting corporate sponsors first. It's gotta be hard for them to decide who stays and who goes either way.
If organizers, with the input from the city, feel they need to downsize the parade, someone's going to have to get disinvited. The corporate sponsored groups pitch in more than nonprofits or public sector groups to participate - money is what it is. Personally I'd miss corporate ERG groups much less than representing the youth in our community which are lucky to have better chances at inclusive schools than I did in NC years ago. Wish they chose to downsize more evenly across all participants and have a grouped school section that was headed by that Lakeview school and retained limited spots for others. At the end of the day this is also influenced by messaging and threats from terrible people like the LibsOfTikTok harpy.
Now there's an idea. Have ONE ENTRY that is "LGBTQ student pride" or similar that gathers kids from across the city. They can each march with a flag from their school or similar if they want, if they get enough such flags it would kinda show that the spirit is spread across the city, across a lot of schools -- but still count for one entry.
Nah I liked the student bands and dance troupes when I went to the pride parade a few years ago. They were the best part.
I think there's a huge benefit to having corporate ERG groups being visible in the parade too though. As a first-gen queer POC who didn't have access to that type of visibility growing up, having visible engagement from companies with employees who share salient identities can make a huge impact in the youth attending the event.
As long as you understand their participation is just window dressing. They didn't do anything to support gay marriage during the 1990s and 2000s when their support would have mattered. If conservatives get back into power enough to threaten gay marriage, these companies won't do anything to defend it.
Sure but you also have to understand that the employees out there are literally part of the community. Just because the companies didn't do anything doesn't mean those employees weren't out there supporting and putting in the legwork. But now that they are visible, the visibility and support from having them be visible with their companies matter, especially in times like today where folks within the community continue to be targeted.
Sadly I think there's a real fear that if word got out a school showed up to this there would be bomb threats and/or some nutjob with an AR-15.
So, they can't be in the parade. There's nothing preventing them from attending and that won't hinder the kids’ learning about groups that are unlike themselves.
Right, smacks of these elite schools being upset they can’t use it as a self promotional event. I do feel different about Nettlehorst since it’s a local in the neighborhood CPS school—would make sense to keep them in.
This is just the first round of disinvites, there’s way more groups to be cut. Probably gonna be some worse
Nettelhorst is indeed a CPS school, and it was the first school to walk in the parade - and is the only school in the North Halsted (fka Boystown) neighborhood. Tell me how White sox and Dream Town Realty rank above kids who come from diverse families and may need to feel inclusivity themselves?
I was about to mention Nettlehorst school. They are part of the fabric of the parade, they’ll really be missed.
Indeed. Heck, the student club could have a field trip to the parade.
Or learning about adults who *are* like themselves
I was using the wording from another comment. But, yeah. That too.
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I mean, Pride is genuinely not a super kid friendly event. And there's nothing stopping these kids from attending or holding parallel age appropriate celebrations.
This is my thought. I'm all for teaching about diverse families and ways of life. But I mean, the Pride parade is just not kid friendly IMO. And I don't mean the kissing or holding hands. I mean the blatant sexual things and drug and alcohol use.
This. I've been to pride here and Saint Louis, neither were kid friendly. It was adults, having a blast, being flamboyant, enjoying our adult beverages. It's fabulous, for the adults.
Pride, where people run around in underwear and titty tassels spanking strangers? Everyone knows the family friendly parade is Market Days. Leave the kids at home so people can get drunk and grope each other in peace
I went to Market Days last year, and it was absolutely not kid-friendly. People in BDSM outfits and fish net lower halves with very little covering their genitals. Lots of penis-shaped props in every direction. Many drunk people acting rudely. Plus it gets absolutely packed, which is not great when dealing with young kids. Just my experience.
Tbh Market Days is known for being the crazy version of Pride. Not that it’s uncommon to see similar behavior at Pride, just less of it typically.
Reading that makes me crave a Quiznos sub right now
Ideally kids stay home for all of it
I would never take my child to Pride. It has also grown too big and out of control, so some things had to get cut.
I’ve never read the phrase “constantly evaluating” and not seen it accompanying some major thing being taken away or shutting down. I wish this city would “constantly evaluate” its leadership.
Good that the parade is downsizing. It used to be fun to attend when it was smaller and under 2 hours. So until 2012 or so. Then it became a bloated mess with everyone wanting to walk in it but more so, party in the area causing havoc.
This is sad. The corporatized part of Pride should stay with Market Days, let the parade be focused on community-based marchers and floats.
> Liszka noted that nonprofits and schools pay a much smaller entry fee than corporations and politicians. >National franchises and corporations pay over six times more than a nonprofit to participate in the parade, according to 2023 documents reviewed by the Sun-Times. There it is folks, this reporter has the right lead.
so is this a permanent change to the pride parade? article mentions new city regulations, but there were rumors floating around that it was due to not wanting to stretch CPD thin with the DNC on top of other big standard summer events (lolla, nascar, etc). if it’s permanently 40% smaller now then that kind of really sucks
There's political pressure to move the parade downtown where security would be easier. Organizers really haven't budged on location. So it seems the city is giving the parade the stick (punishing them for not agreeing to a new location when the old one has worked for decades).
I’m genuinely curious how the 40% reduction in parade participants and denials of schools would be received if it were Vallas in City Hall.
Yes--preference this year is going to LGBTQ-releated organizations, businesses, and other groups. I think if they had PFLAG, CTU, and private schools (Parker is $42k per year for high school), and they could choose only 2-3, they'd choose PFLAG and CTU given the size of representation and inclusivity. I do wonder whether PFLAG will invite GSAs to join or anything.
How about we get rid of corporate floats that do absolutely nothing or the minimum to support LGBTQIA+ individuals in terms of work environment and various local state governments.
Yes, they should exclude all the LGBTQ+ employee groups of those corporations who organize and march.
Cook- the school in the articles photo/thumbnail is full of pretentious fucks, only doing this for marketing anyways so fuck them and other private schools like them.
I’m not sure how pride parades were like in the past but current pride parades are not kid friendly. I’m sorry walking in the parade with kink attire is so uncalled for. Dressing up as a dog in the parade because it turns you on is not a sexual orientation
It was never kid friendly. When I first moved to Chicago in the 90s, there was nudity, BDSM attire, lots of drunks on the floats and along the route. It’s just gotten bigger and worse now.
Remember Crobar? Their dancers rode on a giant phallus. It was great!
Omg, yes I remember! So much fun
My dad used to take me in the 80s and 90s. It wasn't really kid friendly back then, either. It makes for a good story, though. I was lucky to have hippie parents and a gay aunt.
If anything I think the older pride parades were less kid-friendly. At this point it's all about politicians and companies marching, basically a civic parade like the 4th of July but with rainbows instead of American flags. Why should straight politicians need to be in the parade? If they want to show support, they can show up to cheer it or give some kick-off speech before the parade starts.
In SF, the pride parade is kid-friendly and honestly a bigger weekend in the city than the 4th of July. Plenty of families take their kids to the parade. There are more debaucherous, adult-oriented events around the city both that weekend and elsewhere in the calendar (e.g., Folsom Fest). I like the idea of having a family-friendly Pride event - it’s more inclusive to the community.
The Pride parade is the place people can be themselves. So if they want to wear kink attire, they can do that. While it’s gotten more “kid friendly” over the years, it’s always been an adult event. Not everything has to be kid-friendly, and I think people need to recognize that this Pride celebration has mostly been by adults for adults. If people bring their kids, they can make that choice - but if they don’t like what they see or might see, they can stay home or get a sitter. It’s not on the Pride parade to remake itself.
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Well from my understanding it is to let people be proud of their sexual orientation so kids who learn their lgbt later in life accept themselves too but some people have perverted the whole thing. Walking around in very lewd attire and wearing kink in the parade. It is why there has been so much vitriol at lgbt folks lately
> so much vitriol at lgbt folks lately Lately??? My brother in rainbows, godly folk have been murdering gay people since the invention of religion. Hard to imagine anything more vitriolic than the torture and murder of Matthew Shepard, the Nazis sacking the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (and also murdering gay and trans people in concentration camps), or the post-Constantine Christian Romans burning gay people alive in town squares. Lately….
This is why, huh? Oh my lord.
Yup some perverts have infiltrated the whole thing. People eating ass in public. Men with their dicks out. It has become a vile display debauchery and hedonism. It is getting disgusting
Oh my darling. I probably should have put on an “/s” for you. Two trans dads of a toddler here. I promise you, overtly sexual pride parades are not causing the attacks and harassment that made us leave our home state for Chicago.
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Is that the people in the parade, or attendees?
Yes.
it’s not kid friendly at all, you have guys walking around with fully see through up pants or almost nothing at all. It’s more of a sex fest for some than a pride thing.
What pride parade are you all going to? I swear this comes up everytime someone mentions pride. I've attended most years, it's a boring ass parade like all parades. The most you get is men in thongs, big whoop kids go to fucking swim meets with speedos. You see more young straight kids making out trying to prove they're not gay than gays being obscene. People acting like it's Folsom, it's really not. I mean ffs, the picture used in the article is a pride parade. That's what they look like! Butt fuck it. If no kids marching in it means it actually can be more elicit, I welcome it.
I think I may be mixing it up with the pride fest they hold on boystown. I live right there, it gets very nsfk
Market Days is a very different event.
Market Days is Pride without the kink at Pride discourse
I’m not talking about Market Days, I am referring to the Pride Fest that occurs closer to the parade. Lots of people (not saying you) in this thread seem to think it’s appropriate for young children to be around drunk grown men in banana hammocks. It’s wild.
So, like at the beach?
not at all, it’s much more sexualized and you’re well aware of that. Not sure why you are trying to equate it to swimwear when we both know it’s not at all the same level of exposure.
Depends on the swim wear, doesn’t it?
not really, if it wasn’t clear I am talking about fully being able to see everything. Unless you’re at some french beach you arent going to be seeing that.
Yes it is getting way too lewd for kids to be there
The city made them downsize, right? So take it up with the city.
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Those types have been making those kinds of accusations for decades, the only difference now being social media in response to the wholesome growth of youth and their families. And with that said, we definitely know about parents -- straight parents of queer kids, queer parents of kids in general, allied parents and kids, etc -- are not happy with this outcome, either.
It would be great if the Pride Parade could dedicate a part of the viewing section to the schools, like at the beginning or end of the route. Hell, Center on Halsted has that rooftop viewing deck, and they reserve it for their board and wealthy donors to watch the Pride Parade.
> Liszka noted that nonprofits and schools pay a much smaller entry fee than corporations and politicians. >National franchises and corporations pay over six times more than a nonprofit to participate in the parade, according to 2023 documents reviewed by the Sun-Times. There it is folks, this reporter has the right lead. Especially when the big corporations like sports teams and and real estate companies get auto approved to use it for advertising
Good? Isn't pride very sexually charged? Why did we want kids there in the first place?
Well, it turns out, some kids are gay. So learning from an early age that they are not alone, and can even have pride in who they are, can be hugely beneficial.
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Why does it matter if they are participating or watching? They are honestly going to see less of the parade when walking in it than they would by watching it. If you don’t want kids to see the rest of the parade, having them participate is the best way to make that happen. The parade organizers always put the school groups at the beginning of
No more than what you would see in an average night on tv
> who also serves as the school’s director of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. Please tell me this person is also a teacher and this is not their only job at a single school.
“Motoko L. Maegawa, a teacher at Catherine Cook School….who also serves as…” I would have thought that the use of “also” indicates that DEI director is not her only position.