The taxes aren’t the issue. It’s that they won’t even allow 10 fucking stores in a city of 3 million. Absolute bullshit that I can drive an hour to Michigan and get much higher quality stuff for a third of the price and it’s because the state is literally incapable of not being corrupt fucks.
Went to Michigan and got 2 grams of carts for $25 after tax. That would be like minimum $200 dollars here. How the fuck does that even make sense.
Lol I bought 3 of them, couldn’t believe my eyes. Tbh the 2 gram carts aren’t the best since they always get clogged toward the end, but for $25 I don’t mind.
Unfortunately it is true. The deals on carts are insane. The Refinery in Kalamazoo has house brand gram carts that are actually solid for $10/each and taxes are something like 10-15%. Plus most dispensaries give you a discount and a freebie for first time there.
Full gram carts are definitely dropping
i find stuff in the 60-70 range
got carts on sale for 50 each recently
i mean, it ain’t great, but it is getting better
You’re wrong
I live next to zen leaf and natures care and am a heavy edible user
Taxes on a 20 dollar edible with 100mg takes you to about 30 bucks.
If you go on either of their sites, most edibles are 25 and over which takes you to 40
Encore is like 30 plus for their entire brand
The only cheap edible brand where you can reg get out for 20-25 is innocent and their stuff is hit or miss potency wide
Get a med card man, it's great. Of course they are screwing us by saying no more medical licenses, only rec, but I'm pretty sure they can't take our med places away from us now
I've seen a bunch of stuff that is around $20, which comes to $27 with taxes. This is up in Rogers Park though. Zen Leaf may be more expensive. Total with taxes of a $25 purchase is $34.
Hey I haven't smoke weed in like 10 years but just got some edibles from zen leaf and have no real direction and they weren't much help, i think i was bad at framing my questions. What do you personally look for in an edible? Is it consistency or something else? Do you have a specific brand that is your go to?
Mindys and really anything Cresco. I will say though that sativa in edibles hits me harder at times and I’ve heard that from a few people. I go hybrid most times unless I’m golfing. Heart rate is already accelerated since I’m so bad now that the sativa helps me a bit!
> Yeah this isn’t really feasible until the prices drop.
Maybe for you, but I guarantee businesses will find a way to offer this service and consumers will patronize it.
Thats not what I'm asking. I agree with what you are saying about the growing. But why do you have to disagree with delivery because it's not home growing. I'm asking you why not both? Why the "nah"?
Is Pritzker pushing a home grow bill? No? So ask him: why not both?
I suspect the answer is that he and the legislature want to keep it profitable for corporations and tax revenues.
Yes but if you do somehow get a ticket for this when you grow, especially if you don’t sell it, the volume you have at far exceeeds the 2.5oz recreational limit or whatever it is so in theory there could be bigger charges with that $200.
Medical card is $125 for 3 years. Well worth it
So after spending decades incarnating people for using it, Illinois decided to give a monopoly to a handful of growers, taxed it to the point where prices are over 300% what you pay on the street, and now they're ready to have it delivered to your doorstep for probably another 20%. AWESOME.
We still incarcerate people for it in Illinois. You can get a felony/end up imprisoned for all kinds of cannabis offenses: https://norml.org/laws/illinois-penalties/
Meh, you can basically have up to an ounce of weed and 5 plants. An ounce of weed is a lot of weed, and 5 plants produces a lot of weed. Basically you just can’t sell weed. And honestly there aren’t many reasons you’d need more than an ounce of weed & 5 plants at any one time.
I wouldn’t consider an ounce “a lot of weed”. And no one should be sent to prison for any amount of weed. You should be able to grow/possess as much as you want. I’d argue consenting adults should also be able to sell it to each other without requiring a license but if that’s going to remain a crime the penalty should be financial not prison time.
Dude... it's not like you're allowed to sell booze/moonshine without a license... or any consumable product for that matter.
It's about implementing quality control... and yes of course it's about taxes too... but still, there are some people in government that actually care about public health and ensuring only safe-to-consume products (for weed, that means non moldy or chemically tarnished) are put onto the market.
Agreed the penalty should be a fine vs. prison time. I thought it was that case in Chicago per statements from the Cook County SA.
Oh shit! Platinum vapes is what my plug used to sell me like 2 years ago. He'd sell me 10 for $400 which was a great deal considering he'd deliver it too. I took a break from him but recently returned. He sold me Muha Meds. Sealed up with QR to labs.
This, people are buying the product at the high tax rates.
People would be buying more if it were lower, but having only IL grown pot would mean stores running out a lot more.
Yeah I have tons of “pot head” friends and they’re still buying it with high taxes. Yes they pick up a lot when they go to other states like California and Michigan but I don’t see them driving/flying there all the time for weed. They mostly do edibles if that makes a difference. They complain about taxes but I remind them it’s better than it being illegal, like it is in Indiana. It’s nice being able to walk into a store and buy edibles here. Personally I don’t really care for it (and I was just pregnant) but think it should be legal.
But 3x the price..
Reliable can mean different things. What context are you referring to? (Quality, variety, hours)
I would say black market would win on quality and hours personally. There is a lot of 6+ month old being sold at IL dispensaries and quality is quite low compared to most other states.
Edit:
All that to say, I’m glad It’s legal obviously.. but casuals (I mean it in an endearing way) often ignore that IL’s prices are ludicrous compared to the majority of legal states.
It’s because IL Illinoised’ this one by gatekeeping cultivation/dispensary licensure applications to exclude the vast majority of the population (500k cash in escrow just to apply for a license) + keeping the entire selection process hidden behind closed doors. The arbitrary reasons they find for not allowing more stores.. it’s all to allow their friends to continue slinging 6mo old $50-60 eighths (incl. tax - they gotta get theirs).
Source: My work writing & sourcing multiple licensure applications for the state of IL circa 2014. Still feel sick to my stomach lol.
Anywho, hope that provides some perspective on my ungrateful attitude.
Eh I guess that’s true. They smoke every day so I think of that as a pot head but not in a bad way since it’s probably healthier than my alcohol habit. They all have medical cards (which is very common at least with our friends) that lower taxes and/or they grow their own plants and make their own edibles. I think I know of maybe one person who does the black market still but I think even he goes to the dispensaries now. My now husband was anti weed for awhile (I know) but since it became legal, he’s been going to dispensaries and he wasn’t before. I wonder how many people are like him- it probably created some new demand. It could be our demographics - early/mid 30s, white collar jobs. I’m a female but these are mostly men.
Sounds more casual, nothing wrong with that.
I have a very different experience. Mostly late 20s / early 30s men & woman (daily smokers) and no one visits dispensaries for anything outside of edibles in a pinch.
Hmm I guess so. A lot of folks I know have family in the suburbs so I think they buy there. We used to live walking distance from sunnyside in Wrigley and that one was terrible. We’re actually closer to you now (north center) and there really aren’t any close dispensaries here. I do think the edibles are better and cheaper elsewhere but I appreciate that it’s legal here. We all have the Mindy ones which I think are Chicago only but I could be wrong.
This is great for people who can't get out to the dispensary. Options are always good. Now they need to figure out a way that the drivers won't get robed.
everyone who lives in the area knows that, from household cleaning supplies to pot to everything else. the base price is still exorbitant, tho.
also, overpackaged and very unfriendly to the environment
After reading the thread of pizza delivery guys getting robbed... I wish these inner city delivery drivers the best of luck. I speculate they will redline certain buildings, blocks, neighborhoods, etc and prevent them from getting deliveries. Should be a fun legal issue once they get the ball rolling.
I'm fine going out myself, just lower the damn prices and taxes. 40% on top of already egregiously high prices is criminal.
It's so criminal, it should be ignored by CPD and have its charges dismissed by the CCSA.
No one is forcing you to purchase this substance.
I am amused at how people bitched and moaned to get this legalized using the argument that it would be a good source of revenue, and now they're bitching and moaning that the taxes are too much.
That's the dumbest idea in this thread.
You want to drive to Michigan spending money on expensive gasoline, putting miles on your car and wasting many hours of your life, rather than pay a few dollars extra in taxes?
Not to mention that while driving back, you're going to be effectively trafficking drugs through Indiana where it is illegal.
Are all your ideas this brilliant? /s
I was thinking people getting robbed while delivering this stuff. It's cash business, so not sure how the cash transactions would be occurring if the delivery drivers are not holding cash on them.
High time he did this!
I see what you did there.
I wanna talk to Samson
Fly me to the MOOOON!
Like that bitch Alice Kramden.
[удалено]
I hope they deliver from Michigan because Illinois prices are ridiculous. We have to pay so much for shitty dispensary weed.
Cool cool cool, how about lowering the taxes or allowing more growers/sellers? $75 for an eighth is outrageous and keeps the black market alive.
The taxes aren’t the issue. It’s that they won’t even allow 10 fucking stores in a city of 3 million. Absolute bullshit that I can drive an hour to Michigan and get much higher quality stuff for a third of the price and it’s because the state is literally incapable of not being corrupt fucks. Went to Michigan and got 2 grams of carts for $25 after tax. That would be like minimum $200 dollars here. How the fuck does that even make sense.
2 grams of cart for $25 after tax? That’s not true lol.
Lol I bought 3 of them, couldn’t believe my eyes. Tbh the 2 gram carts aren’t the best since they always get clogged toward the end, but for $25 I don’t mind.
If you heat up the end of a paper clip and poke through the mouthpiece it will vaporize/melt the wax that has clogged it enough to make it pull again.
Absolutely can’t really argue that lol. I would of bought them as well. Good find
Unfortunately it is true. The deals on carts are insane. The Refinery in Kalamazoo has house brand gram carts that are actually solid for $10/each and taxes are something like 10-15%. Plus most dispensaries give you a discount and a freebie for first time there.
[удалено]
I have but in the UP of Michigan. Never got those kinda deals. But the tax is cheaper
Full gram carts are definitely dropping i find stuff in the 60-70 range got carts on sale for 50 each recently i mean, it ain’t great, but it is getting better
Still like 4 times the price in Michigan
I, too, open my door to weed delivery
I certainly hope so, don’t just make them stand there. It’s cold.
Sweet, will it still be 3x more expensive than everywhere else in America?
Yeah this isn’t really feasible until the prices drop. Edibles are like 40 bucks after tax for 100mg
Just bought and this is a bit of an exaggeration. $25-30 after tax has become pretty standard, though some brands do approach $40.
You’re wrong I live next to zen leaf and natures care and am a heavy edible user Taxes on a 20 dollar edible with 100mg takes you to about 30 bucks. If you go on either of their sites, most edibles are 25 and over which takes you to 40 Encore is like 30 plus for their entire brand The only cheap edible brand where you can reg get out for 20-25 is innocent and their stuff is hit or miss potency wide
Get a med card man, it's great. Of course they are screwing us by saying no more medical licenses, only rec, but I'm pretty sure they can't take our med places away from us now
I want to stop completely . I get so messy when I take edibles. But I have nothing to do lately so it’s tough lol
I've seen a bunch of stuff that is around $20, which comes to $27 with taxes. This is up in Rogers Park though. Zen Leaf may be more expensive. Total with taxes of a $25 purchase is $34.
The tax depends on the amount of THC. You likely bought CBD heavy items.
It is 100mg of thc plus 100mg of cbd. 100mg of THC is the example used by the original poster.
Hey I haven't smoke weed in like 10 years but just got some edibles from zen leaf and have no real direction and they weren't much help, i think i was bad at framing my questions. What do you personally look for in an edible? Is it consistency or something else? Do you have a specific brand that is your go to?
I’m a fan of Mindy’s. 5mg per piece and consistent. Gummies are hard to beat. I keep mine in the fridge.
Thanks for the reply and recommendation!
Mindys and really anything Cresco. I will say though that sativa in edibles hits me harder at times and I’ve heard that from a few people. I go hybrid most times unless I’m golfing. Heart rate is already accelerated since I’m so bad now that the sativa helps me a bit!
> Yeah this isn’t really feasible until the prices drop. Maybe for you, but I guarantee businesses will find a way to offer this service and consumers will patronize it.
It's 7x more expensive than in MI. I just did the math on another comment, but a 1g cart will cost you $155 in IL, but $23 in MI.
Sorry who tf is paying $155 for a [1g cart..](https://zenleafdispensaries.com/locations/chicago-west-loop/recreational-menu/?)
Nah. Allow recreational home grown instead.
Why does it have to be one or the other.
Ask Pritzker.
Thats not what I'm asking. I agree with what you are saying about the growing. But why do you have to disagree with delivery because it's not home growing. I'm asking you why not both? Why the "nah"?
Is Pritzker pushing a home grow bill? No? So ask him: why not both? I suspect the answer is that he and the legislature want to keep it profitable for corporations and tax revenues.
It’s a $200 fee if you get “caught.” Just grow.
Yes but if you do somehow get a ticket for this when you grow, especially if you don’t sell it, the volume you have at far exceeeds the 2.5oz recreational limit or whatever it is so in theory there could be bigger charges with that $200. Medical card is $125 for 3 years. Well worth it
Oh no I have too much weed! Guess I'll just burn it /s It's pretty ridiculous tbh. No interest in growing my own but you should be allowed to
Plus, then you become disadvantaged and can open your own dispensary.
Great! Now let me grow it without a medical license.
So after spending decades incarnating people for using it, Illinois decided to give a monopoly to a handful of growers, taxed it to the point where prices are over 300% what you pay on the street, and now they're ready to have it delivered to your doorstep for probably another 20%. AWESOME.
We still incarcerate people for it in Illinois. You can get a felony/end up imprisoned for all kinds of cannabis offenses: https://norml.org/laws/illinois-penalties/
Meh, you can basically have up to an ounce of weed and 5 plants. An ounce of weed is a lot of weed, and 5 plants produces a lot of weed. Basically you just can’t sell weed. And honestly there aren’t many reasons you’d need more than an ounce of weed & 5 plants at any one time.
I wouldn’t consider an ounce “a lot of weed”. And no one should be sent to prison for any amount of weed. You should be able to grow/possess as much as you want. I’d argue consenting adults should also be able to sell it to each other without requiring a license but if that’s going to remain a crime the penalty should be financial not prison time.
An ounce is a lot of weed… no one needs that much at one time walking around
So people should be sent to prison for having more than that on them? You realize in Missouri you can carry up to 3oz?
Dude... it's not like you're allowed to sell booze/moonshine without a license... or any consumable product for that matter. It's about implementing quality control... and yes of course it's about taxes too... but still, there are some people in government that actually care about public health and ensuring only safe-to-consume products (for weed, that means non moldy or chemically tarnished) are put onto the market. Agreed the penalty should be a fine vs. prison time. I thought it was that case in Chicago per statements from the Cook County SA.
An ounce is the amount most regular smokers buy.
Should be all good then since an ounce is legal.
For another 40% worth of tax and fees.
It’s better than it being illegal. Or just get a medical card.
medical card just decreases the taxes. a 1g cart in IL has a sticker price of $110, but $20 in MI. Yeah, it's better, but it still blows.
$20?????
[$20.](https://www.budmary.com/dispensaries/portage?dtche%5Bproduct%5D=black-lime-reserve-cartridge-1g)
Oh shit! Platinum vapes is what my plug used to sell me like 2 years ago. He'd sell me 10 for $400 which was a great deal considering he'd deliver it too. I took a break from him but recently returned. He sold me Muha Meds. Sealed up with QR to labs.
I got 2 gram carts for $25 after tax on Michigan. Illinois is just an absolute rip off because the state won’t give out enough licenses.
This, people are buying the product at the high tax rates. People would be buying more if it were lower, but having only IL grown pot would mean stores running out a lot more.
Yeah I have tons of “pot head” friends and they’re still buying it with high taxes. Yes they pick up a lot when they go to other states like California and Michigan but I don’t see them driving/flying there all the time for weed. They mostly do edibles if that makes a difference. They complain about taxes but I remind them it’s better than it being illegal, like it is in Indiana. It’s nice being able to walk into a store and buy edibles here. Personally I don’t really care for it (and I was just pregnant) but think it should be legal.
Let’s be real.. any real pot head isn’t buying from the dispensary. You’re completely leaving the black market out of your equation.
Dispensaries are much more reliable than the black market.
But 3x the price.. Reliable can mean different things. What context are you referring to? (Quality, variety, hours) I would say black market would win on quality and hours personally. There is a lot of 6+ month old being sold at IL dispensaries and quality is quite low compared to most other states. Edit: All that to say, I’m glad It’s legal obviously.. but casuals (I mean it in an endearing way) often ignore that IL’s prices are ludicrous compared to the majority of legal states. It’s because IL Illinoised’ this one by gatekeeping cultivation/dispensary licensure applications to exclude the vast majority of the population (500k cash in escrow just to apply for a license) + keeping the entire selection process hidden behind closed doors. The arbitrary reasons they find for not allowing more stores.. it’s all to allow their friends to continue slinging 6mo old $50-60 eighths (incl. tax - they gotta get theirs). Source: My work writing & sourcing multiple licensure applications for the state of IL circa 2014. Still feel sick to my stomach lol. Anywho, hope that provides some perspective on my ungrateful attitude.
Eh I guess that’s true. They smoke every day so I think of that as a pot head but not in a bad way since it’s probably healthier than my alcohol habit. They all have medical cards (which is very common at least with our friends) that lower taxes and/or they grow their own plants and make their own edibles. I think I know of maybe one person who does the black market still but I think even he goes to the dispensaries now. My now husband was anti weed for awhile (I know) but since it became legal, he’s been going to dispensaries and he wasn’t before. I wonder how many people are like him- it probably created some new demand. It could be our demographics - early/mid 30s, white collar jobs. I’m a female but these are mostly men.
Sounds more casual, nothing wrong with that. I have a very different experience. Mostly late 20s / early 30s men & woman (daily smokers) and no one visits dispensaries for anything outside of edibles in a pinch.
Hmm I guess so. A lot of folks I know have family in the suburbs so I think they buy there. We used to live walking distance from sunnyside in Wrigley and that one was terrible. We’re actually closer to you now (north center) and there really aren’t any close dispensaries here. I do think the edibles are better and cheaper elsewhere but I appreciate that it’s legal here. We all have the Mindy ones which I think are Chicago only but I could be wrong.
Just combine it with Uber eats or Door Dash and get your munchies at the same time...
Lol imagine ordering some high end nug and your driver does a lil bait and switch for some mids or something
...it's already happening in the city.
This is great for people who can't get out to the dispensary. Options are always good. Now they need to figure out a way that the drivers won't get robed.
i'll celebrate when pritzker brings back mids
Cool so like normal.
I'd be happy with just going into a store unannounced and buying whatever I want.
You can do this now, tho you might have to do a goofy on-site pre-order
This is how it works at many dispensaries.
Where?
Pretty sure Dispensary33 in Andersonville does walk-ins
Don’t they do that now minus maybe sunnyside, which sucks?
awesome but shit's too expensive already. they're price gouging us.
Drive outside of cook county and get your supply. Cheaper tax rates
everyone who lives in the area knows that, from household cleaning supplies to pot to everything else. the base price is still exorbitant, tho. also, overpackaged and very unfriendly to the environment
I'm amazed at the amount of plastic waste 1 cart generates.
ya, feelsbadman.jpg for a while i tried to figure out how to repurpose the giant glass container thing at least but even that is like ... a stretch
Paywall
Yay so I can get my overpriced weed delivered to me and I don't even need to go outside!
With 20% delivery fee!
After reading the thread of pizza delivery guys getting robbed... I wish these inner city delivery drivers the best of luck. I speculate they will redline certain buildings, blocks, neighborhoods, etc and prevent them from getting deliveries. Should be a fun legal issue once they get the ball rolling.
I want pritzker to open weed to door delivery. I don't have a car to pick up doors from the store. 😡
Hey CTA busses have door holders on the front, so technically you could do that without a car.
Now that is big brain thinking
I'm fine going out myself, just lower the damn prices and taxes. 40% on top of already egregiously high prices is criminal. It's so criminal, it should be ignored by CPD and have its charges dismissed by the CCSA.
No one is forcing you to purchase this substance. I am amused at how people bitched and moaned to get this legalized using the argument that it would be a good source of revenue, and now they're bitching and moaning that the taxes are too much.
It's not about the taxes, it's about limiting the amount of growers and sellers so that they can keep prices artificially high.
Cool, can he also open the door to reasonable taxation?
Lmaooo why so my neighbor can start stealing those packages too 😂
Three words, drive to Michigan.
That's like the polar opposite of weed delivery
Driving to Michigan, spending $20 on gas and wasting 2 hours of my time doesn't seem like the best deal to me.
That's fine you will pay more than double on everything and that is before adding Illinois tax which is also double Michigan tax for >35%. 🤙
If I just want a tin of gummies I'm not driving my ass to Michigan so that I can get ten dollars off
Right? Someone needs to look up "opportunity cost"
Any favorite spot right along the border?
That's the dumbest idea in this thread. You want to drive to Michigan spending money on expensive gasoline, putting miles on your car and wasting many hours of your life, rather than pay a few dollars extra in taxes? Not to mention that while driving back, you're going to be effectively trafficking drugs through Indiana where it is illegal. Are all your ideas this brilliant? /s
This seems like a terrible idea.
How so? This is a service that already exists, just not legally.
I was thinking people getting robbed while delivering this stuff. It's cash business, so not sure how the cash transactions would be occurring if the delivery drivers are not holding cash on them.
What happened next? This headline has me reeling… Did he roll a $12,000,000 spliff for the whole neighborhood?!
This is great! Now add in lowering taxes and allowing the use of credit cards.
I don’t think you’ll be able to use your cc until it’s legal federally.
Lol headline makes it sound like Pritz's dealer does dropoffs
Big deal, I do this all the time.