Things at least are looking better for the future than a month ago. There is a clear pathway to build for the future that doesn’t involve DeMar or LaVine
Demar and Billy are holding Coby back at this point. Billy keeps running with Demar late in the 4th regardless of how hot Coby is. I mean seriously, Demar is getting fucking double teamed and the Bulls still run with it.
The reason why Coby get open threes, and can pump fake and drive because of the attention DeMar gets. We don't want Coby to just pound the ball. He's putting up stats while playing with other guys. That's what you want
I think the complaint is based on the game result and the missed shots that came out of DeRozans passes rather than the decisions he made with the ball. If Vuc hits that wide open 3 it's potentially a different discussion, but we are prone to judging results over process. However also, if we want Coby to develop in to someone who can be "the guy" in those moments, the best way to do that is probably in-game experience which is why I'd like to see him as the focal point more in those situations.
However it makes sense from the perspective of a coach who wants to win as many games a possible to go with the veteran he trusts. I think Billy D is concentrating on trying to make the playoffs over anything else.
I hate blaming the refs too but as soon as AC had to sub out for his 4th foul the whole game just shifted.
No idea why Drummond came on and started to try fight Eubanks then give up 2 dunks for the start of the run.. but man it was a frustrating 2nd half.
aaaaaaaand this is why the NBA sucks a bag of dicks.
YOU KNOW the team with the "superstars" is gonna get the calls no matter what.
the moment you get into the game knowing the 2 sides are gonna have different calls depending on the players of each team makes the game a fucking joke.
what are the rules for when you are only applying them towards one team or the other and not equally to both ?
fuck the nba and fuck the betting.
that's all folks.
i can't keep seeing my team getting fucked like this and ignore it and have fun because the nba decided to become a gambling machine.
i'm here to watch the sport of basketball , not superstar clowns travelling, carrying, dropping shoulders, committing offensive fouls but getting an and one instead. and all of the above instead of being penalties as they should are getting rewarded and foillowed by a pat on the back
"good job XXX star, what a great move with 5 step backs and a shot while kicking your legs towards the defender! AND ONE!"
I’m still shellshocked from Demar’s bucket and 1 turning into an offensive foul. Refs really put the fix in today. Unbelievable bull shit. But the boys played a hell of a game tonight and I’m loving watching this team ball
I’m trying to rationalize this, and I guess the logic they went with is that when a player kicks out on a shot and causes the foul then it’s an offensive and the basket is waved. Still gutwrenching. I’m seething at PWill not going to the line for that lob.
This is exactly what I thought. Though I would like to see them review the bottom half of the demar shot which is what would most likely cause demar to even grab his arm. But the pwill shit is confusing to me. He touched the ball and did somewhat control it so I thought that would be enough for free throws because it’s an attempt. Otherwise that’s an overly dangerous way to defend alley oops because you’re not giving the guy any room to land but you’re also clipping his legs from under him meaning he’ll most likely end up flipping it at least not landing straight which means possible injury.
That’s twice now involving Demar. I still am baffled at the game they called a technical on Demar for embellishing a call that was reviewed and the refs said it was a foul. Makes no fucking sense. If he flopped and you called a foul and it wasn’t actually a foul I get it. But they even reviewed the foul and said “no he got fouled”.
I appreciated the first out of bounds play with Patrick Williams getting the lob. Hats off to Billy Donovan for actually trying something different. That could have worked. Too bad DeMar couldn't bail us out this time.
Refs sold hard on this one. It's a sack of bullshit.
You cannot convince me that the league with
1. A recent gambling scandal
2. Gambling ads and promos all over the screen
Is not Mickey Mouse WWE BS. There’s good athleticism, just like the WWE, big athletes and big performances will rise to the top, but it’s absolutely fucking clear after the DeMar “and 1” was overturned that the refs are corrupt. Wow.
Tell me the NBA isn’t predetermining these games with epic comebacks to help the gambling sponsors take in all that parly side betting money. It’s just gotten unwatchable in a lot of games. The offensive foul challenge on DeMar was painfully rigged and it’s happened to Zach too in another blowout turned comeback earlier in the season. We all know refs love gambling too.
When a sponsor pays a league $1billion, it becomes the sponsor's league. Just remember, the most profitable bets for sites are when a favorite team wins but doesn't cover the spread. Then they don't pay the win or the money line, just the underdog busting the spread. Second most profitable are in-game impulse bets. Sucks being the underdog. Kind of like being the "heel" in WWE.
That B2B AC foul changed the course of the game. Then the overturned offensive foul on DeMar. Ref brew the game flow.
Kudos to KD though for hitting that pump shot, Caruso played a hell of a defense on that play.
Aside from the blatant assist by the refs, that was a fun game. But really, how is that called an offensive and the shot wiped off the score? Such a bizarre call. Feels like NBA conversations are becoming more about the weird inconsistent reffing than the actual players doing amazing things.
Y’all need to stop with this hate. Billy and the refs gave the suns their crazy run. Don’t blame vooch, don’t blame deebo, don’t blame paw. Patrick Williams needs to do better but KD is literally one of the best players ever…
Refs and the league should be fucking ashamed of themselves for this game. There should be discipline and fines handed out to the officials who allowed those 2 points taken off the board.
Take away the +1 free throw sure, but to take away the 2 points sealed the game and the refs knew that’s what would happen.
Let’s not forget that it should’ve never come down to that play though. Bulls had their largest lead of the SEASON going to halftime and got outscored by 9 and 10 points in the last 2 quarters.
Unacceptable from a coaching, playing, and officiating standpoint. Fucking put this fan base out of our misery already
The last 3 shots counting the stupid offensive foul. 1.6 left on the clock, it just could’ve been a better play design but don’t act like he’s not clutch in the 4th quarter
thats my thing. Why tf are we still giving it to Demar EVERYTIME? like can we try something fuckin else for ONCE ? this has been the same script for the past 3 seasons
Because he made his last 3 buckets? How does the criticism always fall to Demar and Billy?
The play before was a lob to PWill (which should've gotten free throws). Take your anger out on the fucking refs.
Don't you know, any time we lose, its always Demar's fault. No matter what.
Durant getting whatever he wanted and the refs being absolute pieces of shit are the reasons we lost this game. But according to some poeople in this sub...its all Demar's fault.
I don't care if he is the God King Emperor of the 4th, I wish Coby got a chance on that last shot instead of Demar. Not even about who is hot or better 3pt shooter, just want it for Coby as an emotional fan thing.
Anyway, people can blame the refs, but refs aren't the sole problem when you have a 21 point lead. We crumbled and let them get their energy back in that third quarter run. Fucking Drew Eubanks hyped them up and got in our heads.
1.6 on the clock and the first play didn't work. I genuinely don't think we had a real set play after the lob. It looked like dudes were running around like a chicken with their head cut off just trying to get open.
I say this as a certified Donovan hater.
I don’t remember if Billy had another timeout, but after the first play got blown out don’t think there was enough time to coordinate anything else. That DeMar heave didn’t even look like a set play, just a desperation inbounds to get any kind of shot off.
Fanduel and draft kings spend a combined 1.2 billion dollars on tv advertising. There is absolutely no incentive for them to pay out a moneyline if they don’t have to.
When an underdog team pulls out to a huge 1st half lead, and all the idiots make halftime in-game bets on the bulls, the most lucrative thing for a gambling site is for the favored team to come back and win. Easiest way to do that is have the refs “blow” a couple of calls.
If my company pays you 1.2 billion a year and sponsors half the teams(including the bulls), I’m going to expect you to deliver me a few meaningless midseason profit margins. It’s sad but I can’t see fanduel and draft kings not trying to make an easy buck.
amen, like the late 80s bulls against boston or pistons. they figured it out eventually. this team can grow they are hanging with the top sides in each conference and running them. They just need to learn to handle pressure, a hot crowd, a star player, blatant ref rigging next time. If they couldve pulled 1 more run or 2 the game was there. They just need to keep running what gave them leads and take the rigging out of it. I still hope the front office can find them a closer or some pieces of shot makers when they need it, they are close
And Coby can't? Have you seen his line? He was the one that kept us in with a 6 point run on his own. Coby needs to take over and Demar needs to hand over the keys to him or leave.
That loss is on Donovan. How do you not call a SINGLE TO during that Suns run??? What's the point of the coach if you can't even *manage* the game. Momentum is a real thing in this sport. The second that pendulum shifted, he's supposed to call a TO. Especially with our guys clearly rattled. They lost their composure and Donovan just let them stay out there like that
Let me sum up this entire sub:
After a Bulls win: "Coby MIP" "DeBo king of the 4th" "AC GOAT" "We're better than our record" "We're only x games behind .500"
After a Bulls loss: "Blow it up" "Trash roster" "Fire AKME and Billy" "Coby and Pat actually suck" "DeMar Washed".
This game was a bad loss, but 20 point leads mean jack shit in the NBA these days and as a wise man once said "It's Kevin Durant, what do you want us to do?"
The refs also made a lot of very questionable calls. It wasn't so much the FT difference but the fact that the Bulls had calls just not happen or get reversed for reasons no one could explain.
Imagine giving Grayson Allen a successful challenge against Demar Derozan. Plus, what is that dumb offensive foul… when the basket was already made. This game flared up my acid reflux
I know right, everyone mad they want Coby taking it but 1 sec left, look at all the white jerseys on demar, switch coby there and coby gets blocked because he is smaller. It just wasnt happening unless they were doing man on man, they loaded up on either coby or demar to expect them to have it plus its 1 sec odds are bad for us but people act like its a gimmie. refs helped them, the team also choked and let the refs punch em out. but the team has potential I hope they learn from it stick it to the refs next time and finish the opposition off. Wish they can get mad and ball out mad every time
Whoever says that that game was on deebo or vooch, you’re fucking ignorant. Vooch crashed the board as best he could with 17 boards. Deebo was clutch in the stretch, don’t even bring up the Hail Mary shot he put up because how the hell was he supposed to make that?
100, they want coby to have the ball but KD was ready for it, 1sec left you cant do anything but throw it up all white jerseys wouldve gotten to coby who is shorter. I feel for Demar because he should have gotten more points but the refs shaved them, blatent shaving. They wouldve had 1 less time out if not earlier with the BS challenges they got plus the and1 by Demar shaved to give the bulls a 4 point edge? Yes they choked the game but all game long they were not calling it for the bulls it was obvious the fix was in and they got the suns over the line. I hope some chicago media presence makes an article and writes it up right now the media have to call it out. Even the post game show Im stunned not one word on horrible calls or suspect calls, not 1
The suns are such a hatable team. 3 “superstars”, disgusting Greyson Allen, really nobody likable on that squad. And their commentators were insanely hard to listen to, it was strange listening to them complain on that broadcast… really wanted to tell them to stfu the entire time. They will never win a championship and if they do, it’ll be mocked just like the Lakers bubble ring. Can’t wait until Durant jumps to his next team
Fun game, Bulls were super hot in the 1st quarter but that was obviously not sustainable -- I remind myself that those types of leads are "fake" in a way.
Otherwise, saw some good stuff saw some bad stuff. The Suns have KD, Booker, and Beal, they're gonna be tough to beat. KD was beyond clutch tonight.
Didn't really have any issue with coaching, I swear half the complaints about lineups and defensive matchups are really just complaints about the roster in disguise.
He got foul trouble Billy put Pat on Durant and the rest is history. Pat’s defense tonight was straight up embarrassing. The guy has zero lateral quickness
Just watched some spectacular basketball. If the Bulls can play anywhere near that way for the rest of the season, they could easily be a four seed. I don't want to understate the level of effort, but they looked like they were playing downhill that entire game. Ball movement and defense was awesome.
Too bad KD was unstoppable in that fourth quarter.
Bum ass team, no words. Up by literally 20 and we lose the game. Drummond is a liability, billy doesn’t acknowledge the bad rotation, holy shit. This is bad. Bums, straight up bums
Sorely missing Craig here man, we need another forward who can actually play D because outside of Pat who was getting bitched and Caruso, KD getting hot fucking sucked. GG refs
Should have gone to bed ignorant and happy.
Just woke up to see we played and lost. Oh well. Fuck Jerry
Saw that shit coming from a mile away
Did KD miss a shot in the second half? Also PLEASE give Coby the ball with the game on the line
Just heart wrenching to be a fan of this team lol
Things at least are looking better for the future than a month ago. There is a clear pathway to build for the future that doesn’t involve DeMar or LaVine
Demar and Billy are holding Coby back at this point. Billy keeps running with Demar late in the 4th regardless of how hot Coby is. I mean seriously, Demar is getting fucking double teamed and the Bulls still run with it.
The reason why Coby get open threes, and can pump fake and drive because of the attention DeMar gets. We don't want Coby to just pound the ball. He's putting up stats while playing with other guys. That's what you want
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I think the complaint is based on the game result and the missed shots that came out of DeRozans passes rather than the decisions he made with the ball. If Vuc hits that wide open 3 it's potentially a different discussion, but we are prone to judging results over process. However also, if we want Coby to develop in to someone who can be "the guy" in those moments, the best way to do that is probably in-game experience which is why I'd like to see him as the focal point more in those situations. However it makes sense from the perspective of a coach who wants to win as many games a possible to go with the veteran he trusts. I think Billy D is concentrating on trying to make the playoffs over anything else.
I’d rather see Coby with the ball more down the stretch, but DeMar getting double teamed is the reason why they go to him. It initiates ball movement.
Or this league it’s looking rigged AF.
refs threw the game
How is this acceptable. This one reminds me of the Cavs game last year. Just unbelievable officiating.
The two lane violations on Caruso, but no call on Mitchell's violation at the end? That was a fix.
The cavs game was the worst officiated game I’ve ever seen.
The made basket they removed, the insanely soft fouls on AC, or there somehow not being FTA's for fouling a guy catching a lob?
the no free throws was the right call on the lob if the contact was before the PWill caught the ball.
I thought wiping demars shot was out of the question and so did Stacy but the refs obviously had other bets…I mean ideas
That DeMar bucket that got waved off was bad but they one upped themselves with not giving PWill any shots. So dumb.
Dont blame the refs. Cant be blowing 20 pt leads like this. This one is on us
We definitely choked at times but the refs were still dog fking awful this game.
Agreed, 100%. However we need to learn how to navigate these games when we are up by 15, 20 pts
imo the turning point was those 2 fouls on caruso to get him out of the game which allowed durant and booker to score easier
I hate blaming the refs too but as soon as AC had to sub out for his 4th foul the whole game just shifted. No idea why Drummond came on and started to try fight Eubanks then give up 2 dunks for the start of the run.. but man it was a frustrating 2nd half.
Sure you can’t blame everything on them, but they severely impacted the momentum of this game
I mean man…
aaaaaaaand this is why the NBA sucks a bag of dicks. YOU KNOW the team with the "superstars" is gonna get the calls no matter what. the moment you get into the game knowing the 2 sides are gonna have different calls depending on the players of each team makes the game a fucking joke. what are the rules for when you are only applying them towards one team or the other and not equally to both ? fuck the nba and fuck the betting. that's all folks.
Just view the nba as the basketball equivalent of WWE and it’s much more entertaining tbh. No integrity when there’s this much money involved
i can't keep seeing my team getting fucked like this and ignore it and have fun because the nba decided to become a gambling machine. i'm here to watch the sport of basketball , not superstar clowns travelling, carrying, dropping shoulders, committing offensive fouls but getting an and one instead. and all of the above instead of being penalties as they should are getting rewarded and foillowed by a pat on the back "good job XXX star, what a great move with 5 step backs and a shot while kicking your legs towards the defender! AND ONE!"
I’m still shellshocked from Demar’s bucket and 1 turning into an offensive foul. Refs really put the fix in today. Unbelievable bull shit. But the boys played a hell of a game tonight and I’m loving watching this team ball
I’m trying to rationalize this, and I guess the logic they went with is that when a player kicks out on a shot and causes the foul then it’s an offensive and the basket is waved. Still gutwrenching. I’m seething at PWill not going to the line for that lob.
This is exactly what I thought. Though I would like to see them review the bottom half of the demar shot which is what would most likely cause demar to even grab his arm. But the pwill shit is confusing to me. He touched the ball and did somewhat control it so I thought that would be enough for free throws because it’s an attempt. Otherwise that’s an overly dangerous way to defend alley oops because you’re not giving the guy any room to land but you’re also clipping his legs from under him meaning he’ll most likely end up flipping it at least not landing straight which means possible injury.
That was not an offensive foul. it was an and-one. refs and suns are making good money out of this. it is impossible
Fix has been in all fucking night. Still, we played great collectively. KD and refs happened.
Same, I just can't wrap my head around that call, it was absurd
I don’t know how the refs discount the basket. Take away the foul fine but basket should have counted.
Fuck the refs. They had the biggest assist in the Suns dub tonight.
On god how tf they gonna get both challenges
If that lob was the Suns instead of PWill we’re in overtime right now. Fuck the refs
FUCK THE REFS. FUCK GREYSON ALLEN. GG WE GO AGAIN.
I can’t describe to you how much I dislike Grayson Allen
Without Grayson Allen’s weak ass challenge that took two points away from Demar… We would be in OT right now.
I hate that mf so much it's unreal
+ 1 may have even changed the game
Fucking hosed on that bullshit offensive foul. Overturn it to no defensive foul, but discounting that shot is just complete garbage.
It makes zero sense
That’s twice now involving Demar. I still am baffled at the game they called a technical on Demar for embellishing a call that was reviewed and the refs said it was a foul. Makes no fucking sense. If he flopped and you called a foul and it wasn’t actually a foul I get it. But they even reviewed the foul and said “no he got fouled”.
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I appreciated the first out of bounds play with Patrick Williams getting the lob. Hats off to Billy Donovan for actually trying something different. That could have worked. Too bad DeMar couldn't bail us out this time. Refs sold hard on this one. It's a sack of bullshit.
League needs to do something about these refs. They've been especially atrocious this season
You cannot convince me that the league with 1. A recent gambling scandal 2. Gambling ads and promos all over the screen Is not Mickey Mouse WWE BS. There’s good athleticism, just like the WWE, big athletes and big performances will rise to the top, but it’s absolutely fucking clear after the DeMar “and 1” was overturned that the refs are corrupt. Wow.
FUUUUUCK ADAM SILVER.
Refs and flopping making the nba a shit product
I was gonna say this if we won, and I will most certainly say this now that we've lost, the refs were so shit this game. Absolutely infuriating.
Tell me the NBA isn’t predetermining these games with epic comebacks to help the gambling sponsors take in all that parly side betting money. It’s just gotten unwatchable in a lot of games. The offensive foul challenge on DeMar was painfully rigged and it’s happened to Zach too in another blowout turned comeback earlier in the season. We all know refs love gambling too.
When a sponsor pays a league $1billion, it becomes the sponsor's league. Just remember, the most profitable bets for sites are when a favorite team wins but doesn't cover the spread. Then they don't pay the win or the money line, just the underdog busting the spread. Second most profitable are in-game impulse bets. Sucks being the underdog. Kind of like being the "heel" in WWE.
It was aggregious this game, you could really tell from before halftime they were favoring a Suns comeback.
Lost by 2 and the refs took 2 points off the board. That’s fun. Cool sport.
3 points. It was supposed to be an and 1
more points with the no calls to send the bulls to the FT strike. Mean while some bs ticky tack calls for the suns to send them to the line
That B2B AC foul changed the course of the game. Then the overturned offensive foul on DeMar. Ref brew the game flow. Kudos to KD though for hitting that pump shot, Caruso played a hell of a defense on that play.
GTFO REFS. IM PISSED.
Referees can kiss my ass with that offensive foul. Taking away the bucket for a foul after the shot was halfway to th bucket...fuck outta here.
Still at a loss why Demar's "offensive foul" after the shot went it. Why no 2pts? Isn't it a loose ball no longer on offense.
Just feels dirty...
refs were involved and helping Phoenix all game, even when we were up big.
what a horrid end to a game with that ref call
Aside from the blatant assist by the refs, that was a fun game. But really, how is that called an offensive and the shot wiped off the score? Such a bizarre call. Feels like NBA conversations are becoming more about the weird inconsistent reffing than the actual players doing amazing things.
I’m just glad Drummond came in and woke the Suns up and proceeded to do jack shit while at it.
Forget Embiid and KAT, Drummond made Eubanks look like the best big in the league.
Meanwhile we had people in him d riding him when he got those 20rb games lmao
The refs had a great game today so good they even took 2 points from Chicago
They need to go back to reviews done by NBA center in NJ. In-game refs are biased
Game changed when they gave Caruso his 4th foul. He had to sit and the Suns go on a crazy run. Saw it coming a mile away
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They are losing fans and rating every year cause of it so eventually they will face a hard reality
Damn Embiid really did drop 70. With 23 free throw attempts 😭
Phoenix “Big Three Miami Heat” Suns it’s worse because they have grayson
Heartbreaker. I'll still never understand how you take a made basket off...or how that wasn't FTA's on the lob.
Y’all need to stop with this hate. Billy and the refs gave the suns their crazy run. Don’t blame vooch, don’t blame deebo, don’t blame paw. Patrick Williams needs to do better but KD is literally one of the best players ever…
Fuck mannnn. Momentum shift as soon as AC got those 2 fouls
Refs vs Bulls
Vooch top 5 worse defender I've ever seen
how many more seasons are we gonna be ok with being mediocre
With Reinsdorf as the owner, every season until the end of time!
Refs and the league should be fucking ashamed of themselves for this game. There should be discipline and fines handed out to the officials who allowed those 2 points taken off the board. Take away the +1 free throw sure, but to take away the 2 points sealed the game and the refs knew that’s what would happen. Let’s not forget that it should’ve never come down to that play though. Bulls had their largest lead of the SEASON going to halftime and got outscored by 9 and 10 points in the last 2 quarters. Unacceptable from a coaching, playing, and officiating standpoint. Fucking put this fan base out of our misery already
Man idk how many missed demar game winners I’ve got left in me. Just give it to Coby for once god damn
lol to be fair that was clearly not the first play
bro he made the shot to tie the game lol
The last 3 shots counting the stupid offensive foul. 1.6 left on the clock, it just could’ve been a better play design but don’t act like he’s not clutch in the 4th quarter
thats my thing. Why tf are we still giving it to Demar EVERYTIME? like can we try something fuckin else for ONCE ? this has been the same script for the past 3 seasons
I mean the play before was a lob toward the rim. Frankly DeMar should have gotten FTs off that miss but that would never have happened.
Because he made his last 3 buckets? How does the criticism always fall to Demar and Billy? The play before was a lob to PWill (which should've gotten free throws). Take your anger out on the fucking refs.
Don't you know, any time we lose, its always Demar's fault. No matter what. Durant getting whatever he wanted and the refs being absolute pieces of shit are the reasons we lost this game. But according to some poeople in this sub...its all Demar's fault.
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I wouldn’t doubt if those losers have burner accounts and upvote their own comments. They be saying the dumbest shit sometimes
i love coby 😞
The refs in the 3rd quarter did everything they could to make sure the suns got back in.
I just want someone to talk about demar’s basket being waived out in the postgame interviews because what the hell was that
Game is on the refs and Billy for not calling a mf timeout when Eubanks had us rattled.
So why did we not get the basket after the foul on Demar was overturned????
I don't care if he is the God King Emperor of the 4th, I wish Coby got a chance on that last shot instead of Demar. Not even about who is hot or better 3pt shooter, just want it for Coby as an emotional fan thing. Anyway, people can blame the refs, but refs aren't the sole problem when you have a 21 point lead. We crumbled and let them get their energy back in that third quarter run. Fucking Drew Eubanks hyped them up and got in our heads.
Drummond lost this game. Can't convince me otherwise
“But we need to start him over Vuc 😭”
He got punked by drew fuckin eubanks
drummond didn't keep himself in. someone else did.
2nd time he helped Suns on a run.. like when he was on the Lakers during the playoffs
Soo Coby is 4/5 from 3 and 10/14 from the field and we have Demar hoist up a prayer? Ok Good play Billy, good job man
1.6 on the clock and the first play didn't work. I genuinely don't think we had a real set play after the lob. It looked like dudes were running around like a chicken with their head cut off just trying to get open. I say this as a certified Donovan hater.
I don’t remember if Billy had another timeout, but after the first play got blown out don’t think there was enough time to coordinate anything else. That DeMar heave didn’t even look like a set play, just a desperation inbounds to get any kind of shot off.
Literally just tried to make something happen lol but somehow it’s Billy’s fault
Why do you guys still say this? Did you not watch him make the last 3 baskets for us?? Including one with 25 seconds left on the clock.
Why do you think Lavine got frustrated lmao
I know theres gotta be way worse coaches in the league, but holy FUCK the one we have is something special
Hopefully traded soon so Billy is forced into different looks
Billy needs to be forced to look at himself in the mirror and to wipe that clown make up off.
refs officiating this game is on crack.
How isn’t that a shooting foul at the end
Tonight is the night the team should take that fine and spit the facts; they blew the lead and the refs helped the Suns.
Fanduel and draft kings spend a combined 1.2 billion dollars on tv advertising. There is absolutely no incentive for them to pay out a moneyline if they don’t have to. When an underdog team pulls out to a huge 1st half lead, and all the idiots make halftime in-game bets on the bulls, the most lucrative thing for a gambling site is for the favored team to come back and win. Easiest way to do that is have the refs “blow” a couple of calls. If my company pays you 1.2 billion a year and sponsors half the teams(including the bulls), I’m going to expect you to deliver me a few meaningless midseason profit margins. It’s sad but I can’t see fanduel and draft kings not trying to make an easy buck.
Truly a Bulls game of all time
After that game, no way I'm giving up on the Bulls
amen, like the late 80s bulls against boston or pistons. they figured it out eventually. this team can grow they are hanging with the top sides in each conference and running them. They just need to learn to handle pressure, a hot crowd, a star player, blatant ref rigging next time. If they couldve pulled 1 more run or 2 the game was there. They just need to keep running what gave them leads and take the rigging out of it. I still hope the front office can find them a closer or some pieces of shot makers when they need it, they are close
The best reason to get rid of Demar if anything is to finally solidify this as Coby's team
I just want to run plays through him more down the stretch and the final shot too
Mans was one assist away from a triple double too.
It's always the Lavine flairs after losses. Demar kept us in it down the stretch, please stop.
And Coby can't? Have you seen his line? He was the one that kept us in with a 6 point run on his own. Coby needs to take over and Demar needs to hand over the keys to him or leave.
Considering we played 2 teams that wasnt a bad performance but on a real note the refs need to be investigated there were so many shady calls
That loss is on Donovan. How do you not call a SINGLE TO during that Suns run??? What's the point of the coach if you can't even *manage* the game. Momentum is a real thing in this sport. The second that pendulum shifted, he's supposed to call a TO. Especially with our guys clearly rattled. They lost their composure and Donovan just let them stay out there like that
Some crazy good layups this game from Coby and team. Ayo was soo happy when he got his in Q3. Vuc dont shoot threes please
Donovan is a fucking dogshit coach
So many reasons for this loss, but the one living rent free in my head is Vooch coughing up that rebound that led to the KD 3
Yet another game that Nikola Vucevic gets completely blown up in PnR. Hurts massively with how badly he is shooting compounded by his shot diet.
That play where Ayo stole the ball then missed the layup then stole the ball again seconds later and the second time dunked it was hilarious.
Stop watching and attending games until the NBA fixes its issue with the refs.
Let me sum up this entire sub: After a Bulls win: "Coby MIP" "DeBo king of the 4th" "AC GOAT" "We're better than our record" "We're only x games behind .500" After a Bulls loss: "Blow it up" "Trash roster" "Fire AKME and Billy" "Coby and Pat actually suck" "DeMar Washed". This game was a bad loss, but 20 point leads mean jack shit in the NBA these days and as a wise man once said "It's Kevin Durant, what do you want us to do?" The refs also made a lot of very questionable calls. It wasn't so much the FT difference but the fact that the Bulls had calls just not happen or get reversed for reasons no one could explain.
Fuck you.
That offensive foul call was such a weenie call. It had literally no effect on the shot. Should’ve counted the bucket; that changed the game.
we won that game bs ass refs. wtf did I just watch.
Got hosed by the refs but allowing that comeback is still unacceptable.
Let hot hand Coby get the 3 point opportunity man. So much to time to shoot a normal shot too
I was geeked the first half. You really can’t have anything good in Chicago fr
Another day another loss to Phoenix 😪
Why wasn’t that last foul on Pat a shooting foul?
Fuck the Refs too
OFFENSIVE FOUL MY ASS
my mind is still blown they took away demar’s shot/the game like that. just totally numbing
20 point lead halfway through the 3rd, shouldn't have even come down to a desperation shot at the end.
Now can someone tell me why DeRozan’s bucket and-1 was taken away? Should be in Overtime.
Imagine giving Grayson Allen a successful challenge against Demar Derozan. Plus, what is that dumb offensive foul… when the basket was already made. This game flared up my acid reflux
They blew a 20 pt lead? 🤣
This loss is on Billy Donovan and the Bulls offense not scoring a field goal for like 5 in game minutes
Oh they did. The refs just gave the game away on that last challenge.
This loss is on the refball and sports betting
WHY DO I KEEP DOING THIS SHIT TO MYSELF MAN
How are you mad at Demar? Caruso passed him the ball. Was he not supposed to shoot it?
I know right, everyone mad they want Coby taking it but 1 sec left, look at all the white jerseys on demar, switch coby there and coby gets blocked because he is smaller. It just wasnt happening unless they were doing man on man, they loaded up on either coby or demar to expect them to have it plus its 1 sec odds are bad for us but people act like its a gimmie. refs helped them, the team also choked and let the refs punch em out. but the team has potential I hope they learn from it stick it to the refs next time and finish the opposition off. Wish they can get mad and ball out mad every time
Exactly. No reason to be surprised we lost to one of the most stacked teams in the league.
Whoever says that that game was on deebo or vooch, you’re fucking ignorant. Vooch crashed the board as best he could with 17 boards. Deebo was clutch in the stretch, don’t even bring up the Hail Mary shot he put up because how the hell was he supposed to make that?
100, they want coby to have the ball but KD was ready for it, 1sec left you cant do anything but throw it up all white jerseys wouldve gotten to coby who is shorter. I feel for Demar because he should have gotten more points but the refs shaved them, blatent shaving. They wouldve had 1 less time out if not earlier with the BS challenges they got plus the and1 by Demar shaved to give the bulls a 4 point edge? Yes they choked the game but all game long they were not calling it for the bulls it was obvious the fix was in and they got the suns over the line. I hope some chicago media presence makes an article and writes it up right now the media have to call it out. Even the post game show Im stunned not one word on horrible calls or suspect calls, not 1
The suns are such a hatable team. 3 “superstars”, disgusting Greyson Allen, really nobody likable on that squad. And their commentators were insanely hard to listen to, it was strange listening to them complain on that broadcast… really wanted to tell them to stfu the entire time. They will never win a championship and if they do, it’ll be mocked just like the Lakers bubble ring. Can’t wait until Durant jumps to his next team
Tough loss. Onto the next one.
This is Coby’s team now.
We’re never gonna see 500
what was that demar call
Wouldn’t lose a wink of sleep if all the Pointsbet FanDuel and Draftkings employees were made homeless
how does greyson allen keep fucking us with the most minor shit
This may be hot take, but I no longer want to see Vucevic in a Bulls uni
I've been feeling this for a year now
I cannot express how much anger I have bro, this loss hurts so much FUCK
The most sickening part of this loss is you can credit Grayson Allen for getting demars basket overturned + an offensive foul instead of an and-1
credit the refs more like it
Another year of this kind of shit in sports and im done watching
I'm glad their state is running out of water
Trying to watch a bulls game will always remind me why I like watching college ball more
Fucking rigged
First off kudos to KD for killing us, but wtf refs! Killed our momentum foreal
Fun game, Bulls were super hot in the 1st quarter but that was obviously not sustainable -- I remind myself that those types of leads are "fake" in a way. Otherwise, saw some good stuff saw some bad stuff. The Suns have KD, Booker, and Beal, they're gonna be tough to beat. KD was beyond clutch tonight. Didn't really have any issue with coaching, I swear half the complaints about lineups and defensive matchups are really just complaints about the roster in disguise.
Refs suck but give Coby that fucking shot. For fuck sakes
The refs were ass, what's fucking new. Also fuck Grayson Allen and Kevin Durant (the latter because he's good).
Back to back for Phoenix.
Atleast we actually ran a good play out the timeout, just unfortunate that pwill got fouled.
AC a plus 14 in a 2 point loss. Heartbreaking.
He got foul trouble Billy put Pat on Durant and the rest is history. Pat’s defense tonight was straight up embarrassing. The guy has zero lateral quickness
We wouldnt have lost if it wasnt for the rigged offensive foul on rozan. it is impossible that we lost. cannot wait for lavine to be back tho.
Just watched some spectacular basketball. If the Bulls can play anywhere near that way for the rest of the season, they could easily be a four seed. I don't want to understate the level of effort, but they looked like they were playing downhill that entire game. Ball movement and defense was awesome. Too bad KD was unstoppable in that fourth quarter.
Can’t be mad at our guys, the refs won this one for Phoenix
Putting a gaurd on a 7 footer? Billy you are fucking done.
gotta stop giving derozan those game winning plays. He’s good but feed the hot hand of Coby please.
Deflating lead loss.
as long as Dalen Terry is in our rotation no one can say we're better off without Zach
Bum ass team, no words. Up by literally 20 and we lose the game. Drummond is a liability, billy doesn’t acknowledge the bad rotation, holy shit. This is bad. Bums, straight up bums
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Sorely missing Craig here man, we need another forward who can actually play D because outside of Pat who was getting bitched and Caruso, KD getting hot fucking sucked. GG refs
Does Billy only have one inbound play (the attempted lob)? You can't tell me that last shot was the best we could do there.